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[Datschge]

Why shouldn't third parties announce their games when the Switch is the new hotness in Japan?
I don't get it.

You already see them quickly pushing games that likely predate Switch and aren't on Switch. The longer they wait with those the more untenable the lack of Switch version will be in the eye of the consumers. As for new announcements for Switch, may I remind you the Switch is publicly available/sold out since barely more than two weeks. There is still plenty of time for such until the big sales seasons.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Unless your game is slated for a release during the launch period and prior to e3 - there is no reason for 3rds to announce or talk about it. Hell even Nintendo isnt talking about games that are very likely hitting in the seconf half of the year like Smash Bros. and Pokemon.

Its all about timing and momentum - all "relevant" announcements are likely being saved for e3 and upcoming Directs. Not for 2 weeks after the launch when they still are trying to satisfy the demand. Common sense.

 

[Calm Mind]

The Wii U was a complete commercial failure. It make sense that publishers would be cautious about developing for its successor. .

And why would that hurt someone or make any risk averse if they didn't have any investment in it?

 

[PdotMichael]

You already see them quickly pushing games that likely predate Switch and aren't on Switch. The longer they wait with those the more untenable the lack of Switch version will be in the eye of the consumers. As for new announcements for Switch, may I remind you the Switch is publicly available/sold out since barely more than two weeks. There is still plenty of time for such until the big sales seasons.

You are just repeating your lines.

There is no reason why third parties wouldn't announce their titles before and around the launch of a console.

 

[Oregano]

Yup, I don't see the downside to third parties announcing stuff now. Actually showing support whilst the system is sold out might me a good PR move. Especially when it looks like no one else is bothering. Konami definitely benefitted.

The other alternative is a Wii situation where third parties decide to develop for Switch now but by the time they release anything the audience has evaporated.

 

[cw_sasuke]

You are just repeating your lines.

There is no reason why third parties wouldn't announce their titles before and around the launch of a console.

Yeah...why keep announcement for the biggest gaming event and conferences of the year with massive exposure and Nintendo co-marketing...when you could just sent out a press release in the mid of March for a title that wont be out for months.

Oh right ...so that Gaffers can have more ammo for their listwars - but otherwise there isnt much to gain for 3rds. FY ending in March - this isnt the time for announcements but finish things up and release games. For Example Capcom is selling RE7/VR now for current-gen console...as well as MH XX for 3DS and they have some target to reach for this FY - what would be the point of announcing Switch versions of these titles now when they wont be ready anytime soon but could instead have negative influence on the current sku ?

"Yeah please buy MHXX 3DS now...even though we just announce a massive improved Switch version for Fall 207...kkthxbye".

Yup, I don't see the downside to third parties announcing stuff now. Actually showing support whilst the system is sold out might me a good PR move. Especially when it looks like no one else is bothering. Konami definitely benefitted.
.

This doesnt even make sense.

 

[Oregano]

This doesnt even make sense.

Why doesn't it make sense?

The device is hot right now and the people buying it are going to be looking for other stuff in the future. Getting in right now and announcing stuff before any competitors can means people will be paying attention to you.

Also it being the end of the FY is not stopping publishers announcing stuff for other platforms.

 

[LordKano]

Why doesn't it make sense?

The device is hot right now and the people buying it are going to be looking for other stuff in the future. Getting in right now and announcing stuff before any competitors can means people will be paying attention to you.

Also it being the end of the FY is not stopping publishers announcing stuff for other platforms.

But people are already paying attention to them, it's sold out, and every unit in stock is sold in the next ten minutes. It makes no sense to try to appeal to more people when you can't even provide enough units for the people already interested.

 

[Oregano]

But people are already paying attention to them, it's sold out, and every unit in stock is sold in the next ten minutes. It makes no sense to try to appeal to more people when you can't even provide enough units for the people already interested.

Really? Someone should tell all those Switch owners who aren't buying the third party games. I'm sure they're all just waiting to buy the 25 year old Street Fighter 2.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

The lack of third party Switch software js certainly concerning but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. The next 6 months should make it clear. But a lot of titles recently announced seemed like no brainers for the switch so. . .

 

[Fisico]

Hardware launch still makes MC threads a terrible read I see.

 

[Vena]

Hardware launch still makes MC threads a terrible read I see.

Do as I do and just sit back and sip some coffee.

 

[Mpl90]

Do as I do and just sit back and sip some coffee.

You should help me, not leave me alone >_>

 

[Datschge]

You are just repeating your lines.

So are you. =P

 

[duckroll]

He is psycho mantis.

Oh... shit.

 

[Herb Alpert]

Really? Someone should tell all those Switch owners who aren't buying the third party games. I'm sure they're all just waiting to buy the 25 year old Street Fighter 2.

I don't know about the others, but I do.

 

[Shengar]

First it was wait for the January event. When that appeared largely absent, it was wait for closer to launch. Numerous games announced, none for Switch, the stance was changed to wait for after launch......and now we are here: waiting for TGS.

That was only one guy, and Chris quickly mentioned what makes big events for Nintendo essentially not useful for announcing games: Direct.

I still remember the threads bemoaning the lack of notable titles during the first 3 months of PS4.

I should seriously get on making the first years' comparison, because even the almighty PS4 had major problems in getting games in its early state (I mean releases for its first months), the same Vita and Wii U. The 3DS had this problem as well, even if I'd dare to say less pronounced than other recent platforms, which was probably a consequence of coming off the DS and specific companies being way more prolific at retail than what they are now *cough Capcom cough*.

I still remember the threads bemoaning the lack of notable titles during the first 3 months of PS4 (or was it even a whole year). Thought there was even "PS4 has no games" memes that shortly circulated around here? Can't be sure on that. One thing for sure that it takes Bloodborne for a "a reason to buy PS4" thread to appear.

Its the Circle of Life xD

Aah, the beauty of nature.

Hardware launch still makes MC threads a terrible read I see.

PS4 is bad, but Switch far worse.

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I think I muliquoted a post about how smart it is to not announce games right now but somehow it disappeared. Strange, but whatever, I want to say that is perhaps a nice move in the face of Nintendo Juggernauts like MK8 and Splatoon 2. However I don't get this worry on lacking third party announcement that circulating around lately, mainly because the system barely a month old. The Wii U was a total failure, third party needs to wait and see before making any decision. The system selling like hot cakes in launch weeks, and Nintendo shows confidence by doubled their production. Even then, you can't just expect third party to magically announce non-existent game out of thin air. That's why level headed regulars here say to wait for at least until October.

 

[Orgen]

So we went from Switch sold 60.000 so it's not sold out to Switch is the new hotness in Japan? Say wut?

As I've said before there are 3rd party games planned for Switch (at least Japanese ones from what I know). Why aren't they announced? I don't know, maybe they're still on the first phases of planning and could end up being cancelled or maybe they're waiting for a better moment to announce them (E3, Directs, Company Fiscal Year results... Etc). But yeah, for now it's still premature to call the doom on 3rd party support for Switch.

 

[ZSaberLink]

Wasn't there something where Nintendo thought there were too many games at launch for Wii U (and then the drought) and instead they wanted to plan a proper schedule and reveal/release games at a proper cadence? I assume that's why they seem to be somewhat limiting the indies who get Switch devkits as well. Maybe they're doing something similar with the more traditional third parties, and whatever games that are in development are trying to have their reveal at the right time for the greatest impact. Not saying there are a lot, but I assume there's got to be a title here and there.

Anyways, indies are probably going to benefit a good deal from the general lack of third party support thanks to the indies showcase. I don't think Fast RMX and other titles would be as much attention otherwise. Also I have to presume the Switch seemingly being a much better dev environment over Wii U/3DS should help. The number of devs that have said things like "had trouble with Wii U, got X game running on Switch in a week/days" seems promising.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Some people are either being disingenuous or don't remember the PS4 launch at all. You don't remember the years of people demanding for the PS3 to die or all of the questions of why games were being made for the PS3 still? Or Tales of Zestiria, launched a year after the PS4 came out, being a PS3 exclusive in Japan? Or Persona 5 being a PS3 exclusive until about 7 months after launch when a PS4 version was announced? Samurai Warriors 4 initially just being PS3 and Vita? Kingdom Hearts II.5 only hitting PS3? Atelier taking almost two full years to hit PS4?

It took quite awhile for PS4 to start picking up major Japanese games. Even a lot of the PS3/PS4 or Vita/PS4 stuff were just PS3 or Vita games initially.

 

[Ōkami]

If YSO is right about Monster Hunter XX's second week then sell through would be around 1.2m after that, give or take some 100k on digital.

Almost everyone on YSO expects second week to be around 200k.

Also they all expect a bump on Nintendo Switch software.

 

[schuelma]

No, 3DS is a brutal comparison. It had major exclusives announced before launch like Resident Evil Revelations and Kingdom Hearts 3D. The closer comparisons would be Vita and Wii U and well....

Well, if you want to count third party announcements where they came out a year or more after launch and/or wasn't even titled when it was unveiled and was called a "demo", I'd say SMT/Octopath Traveler and Tales should count under your analysis.

Not to mention, DQ11 even if multi platform, is huge.

 

[Chris1964]

Week 12, 2017 (Mar 20 - Mar 26)

new releases

{2017.03.22}
[3DS] Elminage II: The Twin Goddesses and the Land of Destiny _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <RPG> (Joyful Table) (¥2.314)
[PSV] Damascus Gear: Saikyou Exodus _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Arc System Works) (¥1.851)

{2017.03.23}
[PSV] Hatsuyuki Sakura # <ADV> (Entergram) (¥4.980)
[PSV] Hatsuyuki Sakura (Limited Edition) <ADV> (Entergram) (¥7.980)
[PSV] Hatsuyuki Sakura (&#949 _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Entergram) (¥3.686)
[PSV] Side Kicks! # <ACT> (Nippon Cultural Broadcasting eXtend) (¥5.800)
[PSV] Side Kicks! (Limited Edition) <ACT> (Nippon Cultural Broadcasting eXtend) (¥7.800)
[PSV] Side Kicks! (&#949 _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nippon Cultural Broadcasting eXtend) (¥5.048)
[PSV] Resident Evil: Revelations 2 [PlayStation Vita the Best] <ADV> (Capcom) (¥2.990)
[PSV] Resident Evil: Revelations 2 (&#949 _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| [PlayStation Vita the Best] <ADV> (Capcom) (¥2.768)
[PS4] Deus Ex: Mankind Divided <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥7.800)
[PS4] Deus Ex: Mankind Divided (&#949 _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥6.800)
[PS4] WRC 6: World Rally Championship <RCE> (Intergrow) (¥7.980)
[PS4] WRC 6: World Rally Championship (&#949 _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <RCE> (Intergrow) (¥7.388)
[PS4] Farming Simulator 17 <SLG> (Intergrow) (¥6.800)
[PS4] Farming Simulator 17 (&#949 _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <SLG> (Intergrow) (¥6.296)
[PS4] Rewrite <ADV> (Prototype) (¥6.200)
[PS4] Rewrite (&#949 _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Prototype) (¥5.093)
[PS4] Eagle Flight |PlayStation VR| <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥4.800)
[PS4] Resident Evil: Origins Collection <Resident Evil 0 HD Remaster \ Resident Evil HD Remaster> [Best Price] <ADV> (Capcom) (¥3.990)
[XB1] Deus Ex: Mankind Divided <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥7.800)
[XB1] Deus Ex: Mankind Divided (&#949 _Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥6.800)
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YSO predictions

01. [3DS] Monster Hunter Double Cross < 200k (average 190k)
02. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild < 40k (average 35k)
03. [NSW] 1-2-Switch < 25k (average 20k)

 

[LordKano]

If YSO is right about Monster Hunter XX's second week then sell through would be around 1.2m after that, give or take some 100k on digital.

Almost everyone on YSO expects second week to be around 200k.

Also they all expect a bump on Nintendo Switch software.

Because of new shipments, I suppose.

 

[Nirolak]

This was the 3DS third party list when it was first announced at E3 2010: http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=21871333

STRAIGHT FROM THE NINTENDO PRESS SITE

Below is a partial list of upcoming first- and third- party games for the new Nintendo 3DS system. Note that game titles are subject to change.
Publisher
Game

Activision Publishing, Inc.
DJ Hero® 3D

Acquire
Class of Heroes 3Dx3D

AQ INTERACTIVE
cubic ninja

ATLUS
Etrian Odyssey
Shin Megami Tensei
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor

Capcom
RESIDENT EVIL® REVELATIONS
SUPER STREET FIGHTER IV 3D Edition (name not final)

Electronic Arts
FIFA Soccer
Madden NFL
The Sims™ 3
My Garden

Gameloft
Asphalt GT

Harmonix
Music game

HUDSON SOFT
Bomberman franchise
DECA SPORTS franchise
KORORINPA franchise

KONAMI
Baseball franchise
Contra franchise
Frogger franchise
HIDEO KOJIMA’S METAL GEAR SOLID SNAKE EATER 3D
“The Naked Sample”
PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER franchise /
WINNING ELEVEN franchise

LEVEL-5
Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle (name not final)

Majesco Entertainment
BloodRayne: The Shroud
A Boy and His Blob
Face Racers: Photo Finish
Lion’s Pride: Adventures on the Serengeti
Martha Stewart
WonderWorld Amusement Park

Marvelous Entertainment
BOKUJYOUMONOGATARI 3D (name not final)

NAMCO BANDAI Games
Dragon Ball® franchise (name not final)
Gundam® franchise (name not final)
PAC-MAN™ & GALAGA™ (name not final)
RIDGE RACER® (name not final)
Super Robot franchise (name not final)

ROCKET
Crash-City GP
VS-robo

SEGA
Sonic (name not final)
Super Monkey Ball (name not final)

SQUARE ENIX
CODENAME: Chocobo Racing® 3D
DRAGON QUEST® franchise
FINAL FANTASY® franchise
KINGDOM HEARTS franchise

Take-Two Interactive
Carnival Games® franchise

TECMO KOEI GAMES
DEAD OR ALIVE® Dimensions
DYNASTY WARRIORS® (name not final)
NINJA GAIDEN® (name not final)
SAMURAI WARRIORS® Chronicles

TOMY
LOVELY LISA 3D
NARUTO SHIPPUDEN ACTION

THQ
de Blob 2
Kung Fu Panda Kaboom of Doom
Marvel Super Hero Squad Infinity Gauntlet
The Penguins of Madagascar
Puss N Boots
Saints Row: Drive-By

Ubisoft
Assassin’s Creed™ Lost Legacy
Battle of Giants™: Dinosaur Strike
Driver® Renegade
Hollywood 61 (name not final)
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon™
Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell Chaos Theory™

Warner Bros
Batman franchise
LEGO franchise

There weren't a lot of specific games, but there were a lot of vague franchises.

Edit:

Fall 2010 conference sum total 3DS info:

Nintendo 3DS
- Feb 16, 2011 in Japan. 25,000 yen (direct conversion = $300 USD, but actual price likely to be $249 USD).
- March 2011 in US/EU.
- Comes with dock and 2GB SD card
- There is a transfer plan for DSiWare
- Firmware features detailed here
- Major news: Virtual Console for GB / GB Color games
- Major news: SEPARATE "Classics in 3d" shop for NES/SNES/other games in 3d
- Major news: Comes with a pack of cards that are used to activate built-in augmented reality games
- Major news: Some form of multitasking so you can use the web browser while playing games, possibly
- Major news: Miis

- Professor Layton 5 trailer
- Chocobo Racing 3D, Puzzle Bobble 3D
- Asphault 3D
- Tales of the Abyss remake announced
- Ubisoft (Driver, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, Battle of Giants Dinosaurs, Ghost Recon Tactics)
- Ocarina of Time 3DS
- Resident Evil Revelations (this was the E3 game)
- Street Fighter IV
- Mega Man Legends 3
- Resident Evil The Mercenaries 3D announced (this is a separate game from Revelations)

- Full video reel

 

[LordKano]

This was the 3DS third party list when it was first announced at E3 2010:

Wait, Atlus already had Persona Q planned in 2010 ? I really doubt that.

 

[Chris1964]

YSO predicts rise at Switch shipments next week, in preparation of Splatoon, following sinobi's estimate.

 

[Nirolak]

Wait, Atlus already had Persona Q planned in 2010 ? I really doubt that.

They just said Persona. I think they decided on the game itself later.

I updated it to the more complete list though. Will add in the Fall conference announcements (prior to release) in a moment.

 

[Ōkami]

Wait, Atlus already had Persona Q planned in 2010 ? I really doubt that.

Not Q, but just Persona, the game wasn't unveiled for some years still.

That reveal was funny, particularly because fans went nuts about how Vita was getting a dancing game while 3DS got a more proper RPG.

 

[BriBri]

Week 12, 2017 (Mar 20 - Mar 26)

new releases

{2017.03.22}
[3DS] Elminage II: The Twin Goddesses and the Land of Destiny _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <RPG> (Joyful Table) (¥2.314)

Not that it matters at all to anyone but completionists but the digital version of Tetsudou Nippon! Rosen Tabi: Kikansha Thomas-hen Oigawa Tetsudou! also releases on the 3DS eShop next week.

how big is Nojima Online as a retailer? I also wonder how big of a re-shipment they could've got.

Sorry, I missed this. I really don't know at all. Just thought it was a nice anecdote!

 

[Nirolak]

Okay and here is what was announced for release in 2011 as of June 28th, 2011 (so post release and post E3, but prior to last-chance Japanese Fall game announcement season where stuff like Monster Hunter was announced for release 2-3 months later): http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=415693&page=1

It's either this or the above post that most closely mirror our current phase of the cycle depending on your perspective.

Hi, I have decided to make a thread about the 3DS in 2011 (although some of it probably won't all be released in the same year...), specifically the game lineup. I have always enjoyed maintaining lists about stuff so I figured why not.

Styroscope - Nintendo 3DS page
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Release Dates

• JP: Feb. 26, 2011 - ¥25,000 (US: about $300) (August 12: ¥15,000)
• US: Mar. 27, 2011 - $249.99 (August 12: $169.99)
• CA: Mar. 27, 2011 - $249.99 (August 12: $169.99)
• UK: Mar. 25, 2011 - £219.99+ (Retailers set price)
• EU: Mar. 25, 2011 - €249.99+ (Retailers set price)
• AU: Mar. 31, 2011 - $349.95 (August 12: $249.95)

3DS Friend Codes List

• Submit your Nintendo 3DS Friend Code Here
  
• View NeoGAF Users 3DS Codes Here

Features

• 3D Depth Slider allows you to adjust the amount of 3D effect on a game
• 3 Cameras
• Augmented Reality using the 3DS cameras
• Backwards compatibility for DS & DSiWare
• Virtual Console with GB/GBC and 3DSWare
• SpotPass service seeks out WiFi connections and downloads content in Sleep Mode or during Gameplay
• StreetPass service seeks out other Nintendo 3DS systems and exchanges content with them (ex. Similar to Dragon Quest 9's service)
• 3D Film playback deals with Warner Bros., Disney, and Dreamworks(NA)
• Mii Creator lets you take a photo of yourself or someone else and create a Mii. You can also import them from Wii, and by capturing special QR Codes to import Mii's directly.
• 2.4Ghz Processor
• WPA2 802.11b/g wireless (30 m range)
• Cartridge size up to 2 GB
• Region Restricted

What comes in the Package

• Nintendo 3DS hardware (Aqua Blue or Cosmo Black)
• Charging cradle
• AC adapter
• Telescoping metal stylus
• 2GB SD memory card
• Six augmented reality paper cards for included games/apps that use the portable’s cameras
• Quick Start Guide
• Instruction Manual
• Warranty

North American Launch Titles - $39.99 each

• Pilotwings Resort
• Steel Diver
• Nintendogs + Cats: Golden Retriever & New Friends
• Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog & New Friends
• Nintendogs + Cats: Toy Poodle & New Friends
• Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition
• The Sims 3
• Madden NFL Football
• Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D
• LEGO® Star Wars III: The Clone Wars
• RIDGE RACER 3D
• Super Monkey Ball™ 3D
• BUST-A-MOVE UNIVERSE
• SAMURAI WARRIORS: Chronicles
• Asphalt 3D
• Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D
• Rayman 3D
• Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Shadow Wars

European Launch Titles

• PilotWings Resort
• Nintendogs + Cats: Golden Retriever & New Friends
• Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog & New Friends
• Nintendogs + Cats: Toy Poodle & New Friends
• Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition
• The Sims 3
• Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D
• LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars
• Ridge Racer 3D
• Super Monkey Ball 3D
• Samurai Warriors: Chronicles
• Asphalt 3D
• Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Shadow Wars
• Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell 3D
• Rayman 3D

Australian Launch Titles

• Nintendogs + Cats: Golden Retriever & New Friends - $69.95
• Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog & New Friends - $69.95
• Nintendogs + Cats: Toy Poodle & New Friends - $69.95
• Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition - $69.95
• Asphalt 3D - $69.95
• Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs - $69.95
• LEGO Star Wars III The Clone Wars - TBA
• Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Shadow Wars - $69.95
• PES 2011 3D – Pro Evolution Soccer - $79.95
• Rabbids 3D - $69.95
• Rayman 3D - $69.95
• Ridge Racer 3D - $69.95
• Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell 3D - $69.95
• The Sims 3 - $69.95
• Super Monkey Ball - $79.95

Japanese Launch Titles

• Nintendogs + Cats: Shiba & New Friends - ¥4800
• Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog & New Friends - ¥4800
• Nintendogs + Cats: Toy Poodle & New Friends - ¥4800
• Winning Eleven 3D Soccer - ¥5800
• Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition - ¥4800
• Samurai Warriors Chronicle - ¥6090
• Tobidasu! Puzzle Bobble 3D - ¥4980
• Ridge Racer 3D - ¥6090
• Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D - ¥5040
• Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle - ¥5980

OT: = Official Discussion Thread for the game

Nintendo

Animal Crossing
OT:

• JP: TBA
• NA: TBA
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

Kid Icarus: Uprising
OT:

• JP: TBA
• NA: Holiday 2011
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
OT:

• JP: 06/16/2011
• NA: 06/19/2011
• EU: 06/17/2011
• AU: 06/30/2011

Mario Kart 7
OT:

• JP: TBA
• NA: December 2011
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

Nintendogs + Cats
Official Thread

• JP: 02/26/2011 (Shiba Inu, Toy Poodle, French Bulldog)
• NA: 03/27/2011 (Golden Retriever, Toy Poodle, French Bulldog)
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

Paper Mario (temporary name)
OT:

• JP:
• NA:
• EU:
• AU:

Pilotwings Resort
Official Thread

• JP: 04/14/2011
• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 04/14/2011

Star Fox 64 3D
OT:

• JP: 07/14/2011
• NA: 09/11/2011
• EU: 09/09/2011
• AU: TBA

Steel Diver
Official Thread

• JP: 05/12/2011
• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 05/06/2011
• AU: 05/12/2011

Super Mario 3D Land
OT:

• JP:
• NA: November 2011
• EU:
• AU:

Luigi's Mansion 2
OT:

• JP:
• NA:
• EU:
• AU:

Super Pokémon Rumble
OT:

• JP: 07/28/2011
• NA: 10/24/2011
• EU:
• AU:

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Level 5 (left the pictures because these games deserve screentime!)

Fantasy Life
OT:

• JP:
• NA:
• EU:
• AU:

Girls' RPG Cinderella Life

• JP: TBA

Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle
OT:

• JP: 02/26/2011
• NA: TBA
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

Professor Layton VS. Ace Attorney
OT:

• JP:
• NA:
• EU:
• AU:

Time Travelers
OT:

• JP:
• NA:
• EU:
• AU:

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Capcom

Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D
OT:

• JP: 06/02/2011
• NA: 06/28/2011
• EU: 07/01/2011
• AU: 06/30/2011

Resident Evil: Revelations
OT:

• JP: TBA
• NA: TBA
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

Mega Man Legends 3
OT:

• JP:
• NA:
• EU:
• AU:

Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition
Official Thread

• JP: 02/26/2011
• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

Nazo Waku Yakata
OT:

• JP:

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SEGA

Captain America: Super Soldier

• NA: July 2011

Sonic the Hedgehog (temporary title)

Super Monkey Ball 3D
Discussion Thread

• JP: 03/03/2011
• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

Thor: God of Thunder

• NA: May 2011
• EU:
• AU:

The Conduit 3DS

Rodea the Sky Soldier
OT:

• JP: TBA
• NA: TBA

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Tecmo Koei

Dead Or Alive: Dimensions
OT:

• JP: 05/19/2011
• NA: 05/24/2011
• EU: 05/20/2011
• AU: 05/26/2011

Samurai Warriors: Chronicles
Official Thread

• JP: 02/26/2011
• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

Dynasty Warriors
OT:

• JP: TBA
• NA: TBA
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

Ninja Gaiden (temporary title)
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Square Enix

Bust-A-Move Universe
OT:

• JP: 02/26/2011
• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 04/22/2011
• AU: 04/28/2011

Chocobo Racing 3D
OT:

• JP: TBA
• NA: TBA
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance
OT:

• JP: TBA
• NA: TBA
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime 3
OT:

• JP: TBA
• NA: TBA
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

THEATRHYTHM Final Fantasy
OT:

• JP: TBA
• NA: TBA
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

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Namco Bandai

Ace Combat 3D

DualPenSports
OT:

• JP: 06/02/2011
• NA: May 2011
• EU: May 2011
• AU: May 2011

Dragon Ball

Gundam: The 3D Battle
OT:

• JP: 03/24/2011

One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP
OT:

• JP: 04/28/2011
• NA: TBA
• EU: November

Pac-Man & Galaga Dimensions
OT:

• JP:
• NA:
• EU:
• AU:

Pro Yakyuu Famista 2011

• JP: 03/31/2011

Ridge Racer 3D
Official Thread

• JP: 02/26/2011
• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

Super Robot Wars (temporary title)

Tales of the Abyss
OT:

• JP: 06/30/2011
  NA: TBA
  EU: 11/10/2011

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Konami

Doctor Lautrec and the Forgotten Knights
OT:

• JP: 07/07/2011
• NA: TBA
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

Frogger

Love Plus 3D

• JP: 2011

Metal Gear Solid 3D: Snake Eater
OT:

• JP: TBA
• NA: TBA
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2011

• JP: 04/14/2011

Pro Evolution Soccer 3D
OT:

• JP: 02/26/2011
• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

Yu-Gi-Oh!

Beyond the Labyrinth
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Hudson Soft

Nikoli's Pencil Puzzle

• JP: 03/31/2011
• NA: TBA

Tetris AXIS

All other 3DS Games canceled by Konami, for shame!

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Atlus

Naruto Shippuden: Ninrattai Emaki! Saikyou Ninkai Kessen!!

• JP: 03/31/2011
• NA: TBA

Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked

• JP:
• NA: 08/23/2011

Etrian Odyssey (temporary title)

Shin Megami Tensei: Persona (temporary title)

Shin Megami Tensei (temporary title)

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Marvelous Entertainment

Harvest Moon 3D

Untitled Vanillaware 2D Project

Senran Kagura: Shoujotachi no Shinei

• JP: September

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Ubisoft

Animal Resort
OT:

• JP:
• NA:
• EU:
• AU:

Asphalt 3D
OT:

• JP: 03/10/2011
• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

Assassin's Creed: Lost Legacy

Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D
OT:

• JP: 02/26/2011
• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 04/01/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

Cubic Ninja
OT:

• JP: 04/07/2011
• NA: 06/14/2011
• EU: TBA
• AU: TBA

Driver Renegade
OT:

• JP: Spring 2011
• NA:
• EU:
• AU:

James Noir's Hollywood Crimes

• NA: 06/07/2011
• EU:
• AU:

Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 3D
OT:

• JP: 03/17/2011
• NA: 04/10/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars
Official Thread

• JP: 05/19/2011
• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

Rabbids Travel in Time 3D
OT:

• JP: 03/24/2011
• NA: 04/10/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

Rayman 3D
Official Thread

• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

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Electronic Arts

Madden NFL
OT:

• NA: 03/27/2011

FIFA Soccer (working title)

The Sims 3

• JP: 2011
• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

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LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars
OT:

• NA: 03/27/2011
• EU: 03/25/2011
• AU: 03/31/2011

LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean

• NA:
• EU:
• AU:

BlazBlue Continuum Shift II
OT:

• JP: 03/31/2011
• NA: 05/24/2011

Dream Trigger 3D
OT:

• NA: April 2011

Virus Shooter XX
OT:

• JP: 03/31/2011

Cartoon Network: Punch Time Explosion

DJ Hero
NA: Possibly Canceled

Eternal Eden + Ecclesia

• JP:

Fish On
OT:

• JP: Spring 2011
• NA:
• EU:
• AU:

Earthpedia

Haku&#333;ki 3D

Kabuki Samurai Sensei: Bride of Shadows

Omega Five

Shanghai 3D Cube

• JP: 03/03/2011

Sudoku Ball 3D

Vektor Tank 3D

Kuukan Sagashimono Kei: Nouryoku Kaihatsu 3D Nou Training

• JP: 04/07/2011

UnchainBlades ReXX

• JP: 06/23/2011

Bakugan: Rise of the Resistance

• NA:

Transformers: Dark of the Moon

• NA:

Cave Story 3D

• NA: 06/28/2011

Runabout (working title)

 

[Jacobson]

Not Q, but just Persona, the game wasn't unveiled for some years still.

That reveal was funny, particularly because fans went nuts about how Vita was getting a dancing game while 3DS got a more proper RPG.

Well... it is an RPG. It's not the one we wanted, but still. lol

 

[Chris1964]

Not that it matters at all to anyone but completionists but the digital version of Tetsudou Nippon! Rosen Tabi: Kikansha Thomas-hen Oigawa Tetsudou! also releases on the 3DS eShop next week.

If it does it's not listed anywhere yet, Nintendo, Famitsu or GameFaqs.

 

[BriBri]

If it does it's not listed anywhere yet, Nintendo, Famitsu or GameFaqs.

It's listed on the 3DS eShop (https://68.media.tumblr.com/487547fb148af5cbad6a27395dbcc2fb/tumblr_omuyaqtsyP1s2z1y6o6_r3_1280.jpg) and https://twitter.com/tetsutabi_pr/status/842680886352998400

 

[ZSaberLink]

According to Gamefaqs, this is the list of Switch games with confirmed release dates....

03/30 - San Goku Shi 13 with Power-Up Kit
04/18 - Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap (is this even retail?)
04/20 - Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker
04/28 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
05/26 - Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers
06/29 - LEGO City Undercover

ARMS should be released in this timeframe.

 

[Eolz]

Arms is definitely coming in May.

 

[LordKano]

According to Gamefaqs, this is the list of Switch games with confirmed release dates....

03/30 - San Goku Shi 13 with Power-Up Kit
04/18 - Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap (is this even retail?)
04/20 - Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker
04/28 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
05/26 - Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers
06/29 - LEGO City Undercover

ARMS should be released in this timeframe.

Wonder Boy isn't retail, at least it hasn't been announced yet.

 

[zMiiChy-]

Given the list of 3DS launch titles Nirolak provided, how does the Switch's launch line-up compare?

 

[DMONKUMA]

Arms is definitely coming in May.

It better be.

 

[Mpl90]

Since we've talked so much about third party announcements before and after launch, actual releases and such, I've decided to create two posts where we set the records clear on different points of discussion

1) Announcements made by Japanese publishers / developers since the console's unveiling up to the launch
2) Releases by Japanese publishers / developers from the launch to the console's first Holiday (in case of an Holiday release, the subsequent one)

Major rules behind the comparison
- I'm sticking to actual game announcements. So, these lists won't feature all those mentioned series in the initial 3DS list from E3 2010 for example, as well as the series mentioned for Switch back at the January event (personally, I think they'll turn out to be more "real" announcements than what happened with 3DS, given the different announcement policy, but I watn a comparison that's as just as possible, so I won't put them for Switch ).
- digital-only announcements / releases aren't included, retail releases only

1) Announcements made by Japanese publishers / developers since the console's unveiling up to the launch

Nintendo 3DS

E3 2010 (June 15th, 2010)

Super Monkey Ball 3D (SEGA)
Codename: Chocobo Racing 3D (then cancelled) (Square-Enix)
Kingdom Hearts 3D (Square-Enix)
Dead or Alive: Dimensions (Koei Tecmo)
Samurai Warriors Chronicles (Koei Tecmo)
Naruto Shippuden 3D: The New Era (Takara Tomy)
Cubic Ninja (AQ Interactive)
Devil Survivor: Overclocked (Atlus)
Resident Evil: Revelations (Capcom)
Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition (Capcom)
Deca Sports Extreme (Hudson)
Metal Gear Solid 3D: Snake Eater (Konami)
Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle (Level 5)
Ridge Racer 3D (Bandai Namco)

Nintendo Fall Conference - September 29th, 2010

Bust-a-Move Universe (Square-Enix)
Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy (Bandai Namco)
Tales of the Abyss (Bandai Namco)
Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D (Capcom)
Megaman Legends 3 (then cancelled) (Capcom)
Class of Heroes 3Dx3D (Acquire)
Animal Resort (Marvelous)

Announcements outside of these events

DualPenSports (Bandai Namco)
One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP (Bandai Namco)
Pro Baseball Famista 2011 (Bandai Namco)
Pro Jiykouu Spirits 2011 (Konami)
Professor Layton v.s. Ace Attorney (Level 5)
Fantasy Life (Level 5)
Time Travellers (Level 5)
Girls RPG: Cinderella's Life (Level 5)
Fish Eyes 3D (Marvelous)
Doctor Lautrec and the Forgotten (Konami)
Unchained Blades (FuRyu)
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift II (ArcSystem Works)


PlayStation Vita

E3 2011 (June 6th, 2011)

Dynasty Warriors Next (Koei Tecmo)
Street Fighter x Tekken (Capcom)

Pre-TGS Conference (September 15th, 2011)

Army: Corps of Hell (Square Enix)
Lord of Apocalypse (Square Enix)
Final Fantasy X /X-2 HD Remaster (Square Enix)
MGS HD Collection (Konami)
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift: Extend (Arc System Works)
Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention (NIS)
Mahjong Fight Club: Shinsei Zenkoku Taisen Ban
Ridge Racer (Namco Bandai)
Shinobido 2: Tales of the Ninja (Spike Chunsoft)
Touch My Katamari (Bandai Namco)
Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Capcom)
Tales of Innocence R (Bandai Namco)

Announcements outside of these events

New Little King's Story (Konami)
Virtue's Last Reward (Spike Chunsoft)
Shin Kamaitachi no Yoru: Jyuichi-nin-me no Suspect (Spike Chunsoft)
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Splitz (SEGA)
Persona 4: The Golden (Atlus)
Ys Celceta: Sea of Trees (Falcom)
Ninja Gaiden: Sigma (Koei Tecmo)
Dream Club Zero Portable (D3 Publisher)
Let's Fish! Hooked On! (Kadokawa Games)
Ragnarok Odyssey (GungHo)
Sumioni (Acquire)

Wii U

E3 2012 - June 5th, 2012

Tank Tank Tank (Bandai Namco)
Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition (Bandai Namco)
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge (Koei Tecmo)

Nintendo Direct - September 13th, 2012

Warriors Orochi 2: Hyper (Koei Tecmo)
Romance of the 3 Kingdoms XII (Koei Tecmo)
Ken's Rage: Fist of the North Star 2 (Koei Tecmo)
Monster Hunter 3G HD Version (Capcom)

Announcements outside of these events

Dragon Quest X

PlayStation 4

E3 2013 - June 10th, 2013

Final Fantasy XV (Square Enix)
Kingdom Hearts III (Square Enix)
Final Fantasy XIV (Square Enix)

Pre-TGS Conference (September 9th, 2013)

Yakuza: Ishin! (SEGA)
Natural Doctrine (Kadokawa Games)
Guilty Gear Xrd Sign (Arc System Works)
Lily Bergamo (GungHo) -> disappeared, then became Let it die

Announcements outside of these events

Dynasty Warriors 8 with Extreme Legends (Koei Tecmo)
Nobunaga no Yab&#333; Online: Tenka Mugen no Sh&#333;u (Koei Tecmo)
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes (Konami)
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain (Konami)

Nintendo Switch

Switch Presentation - January 12th, 2017

Super Bomberman R (Konami)
Dragon Quest Heroes I-II for Nintendo Switch (Square Enix)
I Am Setsuna (Square Enix)
Puyo Puyo Tetris (SEGA)
Disgaea 5 Complete (NIS)
Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence with Power Up Kit (Koei Tecmo)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIII with Power Up Kit (Koei Tecmo)
Project Octopath Traveler (Square Enix)
Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (Capcom)
Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 (Bandai Namco)
Minna de Waiwai! Spelunker (Square Enix)
Shin Megami Tensei title (Atlus)

Announcements outside of the event

Dragon Quest X (Square Enix)
Dragon Quest XI (Square Enix)


If there are errors, or if you want me to use other comparison's criterias, feel free to post your ideas and notes

 

[ZSaberLink]

...

Doesn't Sonic Forces count for Switch announcements? From the sonic wiki "The title was first mentioned at the Tokyo Joypolis Sonic 25th party on 25 June 2016 under the name "Project Sonic 2017". Thanks for the list.

Personally I feel like these were the bigger titles in each of those lists (aka could/did sell over 100K):
3DS: Kingdom Hearts 3D, Resident Evil Revelations, Resident Evil Mercenaries, Layton Mask of Miracle, Tales of the Abyss, Fantasy Life, Layton v Ace Attorney, Samurai Warriors: Chronicles, One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP

Vita: Persona 4 Golden, FFX / X-2 HD remaster

Wii U: Monster Hunter 3G, Dragon Quest X

PS4: Kingdom Hearts 3, FFXV, MGSV (Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain), Yakuza Isshin

Switch: TBD, but my guess is Dragon Quest XI, the vague SMT title, and perhaps Bomberman R legs it up to 100K.

The 3DS list was awesome, the Vita list had a couple names but they generally sold poorly, Wii U was just had nothing except those 2 ports, and PS4 had a couple really big games to release down the line, but nothing outside of that or close to launch (except Isshin & MGS:GZ). DQXI is awesome for Switch, but is multiplatform. Sonic Forces will probably do well enough in the West on Switch. The rest though... is just lots of smaller 3rd party titles thus far for retail.

 

[MTC100]

So we went from Switch sold 60.000 so it's not sold out to Switch is the new hotness in Japan? Say wut?

From what I've heard there are lotteries held at major japanese video game stores for the chance to buy a Switch every week, so yes, the system is pretty hot in Japan(like in most other countries).

Nintendo sells, what they can ship and I guess the next MC numbers will be again something around 60k as the ramped up production of the system won't kick in 'till around the end of April I guess.

 

[Oregano]

Thanks for putting in the work Mpl90. Overall I'd still say Switch doesn't compare favorably to either 3DS or Vita and whilst it has more smaller

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games than the PS4 nothing compares to FFXV and KH3(which are de facto exclusives unlike DQXI).

Well, if you want to count third party announcements where they came out a year or more after launch and/or wasn't even titled when it was unveiled and was called a "demo", I'd say SMT/Octopath Traveler and Tales should count under your analysis.

Not to mention, DQ11 even if multi platform, is huge.

SMT is multiplatform and even if wasn't SMT and Octopath Traveler aren't close to comparable to Resident Evil or Kingdom Hearts. As for Tales we don't even know what they have planned(if it ever materializes), it might not even end up as significant as Tales of the Abyss 3D.

 

[Hero of Legend]

Doesn't Sonic Forces count for Switch announcements? From the sonic wiki "The title was first mentioned at the Tokyo Joypolis Sonic 25th party on 25 June 2016 under the name "Project Sonic 2017".

The actual announcement was on July 22nd, 2016 at the 25th anniversary party. That's where they unveiled it alongside the trailer and platforms. It was first spoken of at Joypolis though.

 

[thestopsign]

Guys, I have a problem. I have been reading the 2005 archived Media-Create threads for the last 4 hours while nursing a hangover. The story arc is beautiful.

 

[LordKano]

Thanks for putting in the work Mpl90. Overall I'd still say Switch doesn't compare favorably to either 3DS or Vita and whilst it has more smaller

Spoiler

irrelevant

games than the PS4 nothing compares to FFXV and KH3(which are de facto exclusives unlike DQXI).



SMT is multiplatform and even if wasn't SMT and Octopath Traveler aren't close to comparable to Resident Evil or Kingdom Hearts. As for Tales we don't even know what they have planned(if it ever materializes), it might not even end up as significant as Tales of the Abyss 3D.

SMT Switch is multiplatform ?

 

[Nirolak]

Does anyone have the list of unreleased Japanese third party games slated for Vita and/or PS4 in 2017?

I think that's also a list worth comparing to since the odds of getting Switch third party exclusives when the Switch has above 360/PS3 level hardware are low, meaning they're also the list of games that were candidates for a Switch release.

 

[Herb Alpert]

So this is it? After 3 weeks and what can be considered as a successful launch, switch is already considered a wasted cause by some of the most optimistic and enthusiast GAFers when it comes to Nintendo?

Well, I guess it had a good run. :^)


To me the difference this time is that this system can be considered by devs as complementary to the almighty PS4. Portability is a big deal for a lot of people. Of course, especially Japan. Going multiplat (including Switch) has more sense now than it had with WiiU (lol). And With 3DS, horse power and tools were not there.

If this time, no one is on board (which cannot be infered after 3 weeks on the markets, no matter how accurate are your sales numbers, any sane person should aknowledge that), well, I guess they just will never show up on a nintendo system, powerful or not.

 

[Jacobson]

SMT Switch is multiplatform ?

It's not, I believe the Switch and 3DS SMT are different games.

 

[Hero of Legend]

SMT Switch is multiplatform ?

We don't know. The only hint is that it's called an "HD" prorject alongside the 3DS game specified as a "3DS" project on their website.

Folks take that to mean it's likely PS4-bound also. It could very well be Switch-exclusive, we don't know.