Ordinaryundone
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I always imagined she asked out 21O. She's so frosty, I can see her rejecting her pretty hard. That said, the Commander isn't too different.
NieR: Automata Spoiler Thread
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I always imagined she asked out 21O. She's so frosty, I can see her rejecting her pretty hard. That said, the Commander isn't too different.
here's Jackass' report from the end of the game about the events: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232460800&postcount=1681
there's only ever been one YoRHa. there have probably been other organizations somewhat like YoRHa in the past to inspire the androids to fight for humanity. i actually don't know if there will be another organization like this in the future because Jackass knows what the deal is now and i doubt she'll keep it a secret because she's Jackass. she'll surely spread the word that this is all bullshit and another YoRHa-style development will fail.
It is quite likely, yes.
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The thing is though, every "human" in the original Nier is basically an android. Its why they can't reproduce and are immune to WCS. Its just not stated in that blunt way because it needs to save the reveals til the end.
There's no indication or reason to believe that the people of facade are any different from the replicants in Nier's village; none of them are truly human because if they were then they'd have succumbed to WCS and either turned to salt or become part of the Legion.
So ultimately, the "humans" the machines are copying are just an earlier generation of android...
There's no indication or reason to believe that the people of facade are any different from the replicants in Nier's village; none of them are truly human because if they were then they'd have succumbed to WCS and either turned to salt or become part of the Legion.
So ultimately, the "humans" the machines are copying are just an earlier generation of android...
Androids. And maybe Emil clones?
Ordinaryundone
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He said fuck it and went on a vacation because it's hard to be existentialist with fangirls hanging all over you.
But previous versions of Yorha that were backdoor destroyed and reformed?
Not only do you find the lithographs in the desert, but the houses that are buried under sand and the grave like statues you can find look suspiciously like the ones from Facade. It's obviously the same place, which makes me wonder if the ruined city is the same city from the end of Nier.
There are no previous versions of YoRHa. There might have been similar ideas, but that would be pure speculation,
BuckRobotron
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21O has very complicated feelings for 9S. Part of why I like playing as 9S is the interaction with her shifting attitude and unintended stoic clumsiness in how to deal with him. It also gets him confused as she is, first flirting with her with no apparent response, then thinking she is mothering him, then the final fight against her reveals she just really wanted to be with him, period.
She also volunteered to become a fighter B android near the end, perhaps misguidedly trying to be more like 2B or just more directly aid them (meaning aid 9S really).
There is no previous version of YoRHa. It merely the most recent project from the Android side in their long, long war with the Machines and the goals of the project are outlined in the intel files.
Nah, it wasn't YoRHa. This is what Taro Yoko does, he makes lore and then really only hints at what happens. The events in this game isn't the entire 14th Machine war either. But what we do know is that Emil fought in the first machine war, assuming that the alien invasion fused with the machine war later on. The rest were probably androids trying various things, while trying to keep the lie about humans still being alive going.
There's a side quest that suggests 9S does understand sex and reproduction. In it a machine child asks him multiple times how children are made, but 9S is embarrassed by it and is dismissive.
Adam most likely does, at least ​from his limited perspective of going over human records.
Edit: also, in the side quest 9S at one point attempts to get 2B to answer the question for him, but she nonchalantly dismisses it, forcing the conversation back on him.
Yeah and in the Desert housing complex when you are chasing the machine down into the pit where all the machines are gathered (right before the debut of Adam/Eve, many are performing sexual actions.)
ShadowSoldier89
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So I just got ending E
"Personal data deletion request denied"
Is now one of my all time favorite moments. They spend so much time in route C building up the pods as growing sentience, but never would I have foreseen how far that would go. They feel like a player extension right at the end, especially for me.
"I have come to the conclusion that I cannot accept this resolution" Either they are player extensions, or mass effect fans after 3.
"Personal data deletion request denied"
Is now one of my all time favorite moments. They spend so much time in route C building up the pods as growing sentience, but never would I have foreseen how far that would go. They feel like a player extension right at the end, especially for me.
"I have come to the conclusion that I cannot accept this resolution" Either they are player extensions, or mass effect fans after 3.
As with nier 1 it's hard to get a good scale of the world at large,probably in purpose lol.
Whole game is just on 1 county basically. There seems to be other forces around that you see during the giant emp robot fight,but that's the extent of your knowledge of the world.
BTW were there any happy ending side quests? Feel like everyone I remember ended sad for the most part.
Whole game is just on 1 county basically. There seems to be other forces around that you see during the giant emp robot fight,but that's the extent of your knowledge of the world.
BTW were there any happy ending side quests? Feel like everyone I remember ended sad for the most part.
You need to max all weapons to fight Emil in the desert and get ending Y.
i cant get over how well done 2b is
you basically learn literally nothing about her the entire time she's alive and she seems like a boring as shit but once everything is revealed in endings c-e she suddenly becomes insanely interesting and tragic, especially just looking at how she acts in regards to stuff considering she is already privy to the horrible truth of the war (to where it's literally pointless)
like the actual flip between 'wow 2b is really fucking boring' to 'wow 2b is insanely interesting and her relationship w all the characters is ridiculously complex and sad' is straight insane
you basically learn literally nothing about her the entire time she's alive and she seems like a boring as shit but once everything is revealed in endings c-e she suddenly becomes insanely interesting and tragic, especially just looking at how she acts in regards to stuff considering she is already privy to the horrible truth of the war (to where it's literally pointless)
like the actual flip between 'wow 2b is really fucking boring' to 'wow 2b is insanely interesting and her relationship w all the characters is ridiculously complex and sad' is straight insane
That to me was more of the machine network "knowing" about sex. At the time, Adam lacked a physical form, so I think he was controlling the machines to do that in an attempt to understand humanity.
It's entirely possible that Adam only created his physical form to better understand humanity. That may also be why he chose to hang out in an abandoned housing complex.
darkwing-buck
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Yeah the way they add depth to her character is insane.
This is why beating the game is so marvelous, because it's one of those things that you can come back to and look for all the little hints sprinkled about as you progress through the game, including the sidequests.
I also just love how they take her opening line in the beginning and turn it from something that admittedly sounds a little edgy/try-hard to something that is just utterly depressing once you realize what she's actually referring to.
True.
I just finished replaying the game on PC and it's also really insane how much buildup for that stuff there is. It's not some BS twist coming out of nowhere, a lot of completely minor reactions of her throughout the game shine in a completely different, much more tragic light if you know about her background.
Iriscomeback
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So who made all the androids go crazy and hack the bunker?
And did 2B ever know the truth about the war?
And did 2B ever know the truth about the war?
She does. I think i even wrote about that some many pages ago because it blew me away, even if it's a minor thing.
You can do this?
On the PS4 you can swipe the touchscreen to do that. I don't think it's possible on PC tho, at least not with an XB1 Pad (or i was too stupid to find the correct input for it)
KO Traveling Hobo
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Rub the the big whatever-it's-called button on the front of the PS4 controller to pat the pod.You can do this?
edit: ^I believe wiggling the mouse works on PC, but I dunno about the XB1 pad.
DrunkShogun
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You can do this?
No wonder pod042 refused the ending in e. He likes being pampered.
Feels good to be here. E had me super confused. I played the credits scene for a long time without dying and then restarted once before giving up and coming back to it today.
So amazing.
I will have to go through this thread and read about it since I am still kind of confused from route C with the machine gods and what is really going on.
What a wonderful game. There are a few side quests I will go back and get.
Has anybody chose to give up their save? Does that actually happen?
So amazing.
I will have to go through this thread and read about it since I am still kind of confused from route C with the machine gods and what is really going on.
What a wonderful game. There are a few side quests I will go back and get.
Has anybody chose to give up their save? Does that actually happen?
KO Traveling Hobo
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She sure does. And thinking back on it, I wonder if 2B getting jealous was deliberately included in that quest as a distraction. Taro was hoping people would focus on the cuteness and shipping fuel, and not put too much thought into the conspicuous introduction of a secret unit type that 2B happens to know about.
yes, she knows from the start
rewatch the intro after the prologue, when everyone is doing the 'glory to humanity' spiel - she is very visibly getting super mad/uncomfortable
to note, i think she never once says that or generally anything actually positive about humans
apparently there's an E-series android right there in the prologue bit where it shows the IDs of the flyers, so lol
Can anyone find the fan comic strip where 2b pats the pod and 9s wants the same.
Iriscomeback
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Ah ok, I think I have to rewatch/play some stuff because I completely missed this. Read on the wiki 2B was created to destroy 9S models? New info for me lol.
Sometimes the game gives you this info during combat, I always miss all of that.
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There's a sidequest called "Amnesia" that really sets this up, although "Wandering Couple" is also somewhat related.
It's literally the final exposition dump right before the fight between 9s and 2A lol
It does. I initially didn't do it cos i wanted to finish up some stuff first, but then i replayed the part and comitted.
KO Traveling Hobo
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I can't remember, do they announce their ID or is it just a visual thing?
Almost didn't recognize you without the cute red-haired anime girl. Lookin' good!
Considering the ending I don't think he gave a shit anymore.