"Health care" bill withdrawn due to lack of votes

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Gooster said:
lol

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/845378894517686273
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oh my god
some folks are just unrechable

neurosisxeno said:
All of this also ignores a poison pill that (R-FL) Marco Rubio put in place that has been doing a ton of damage.
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i love my state, but allowing a spineless shit like marco to stay on is right up there with the time we reelected rick scott

D4Danger said:
careful how you place them otherwise it disappears
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i appreciated this reference
 
Sobriquet said:
Posted? Cuz holy shit...

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Courtesy of Rep. Joe Barton-TX

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This is so ridiculous it's hard to believe.
 
sangreal said:
It's almost guaranteed that some insurers will pull out of the marketplace this year (some already have), and rates increase every year (even pre-ACA)

The ACA really does need serious fixes. What Trump doesn't get is that this is his job, and he can't pass the buck anymore
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With the amount of money to be had through the ACA, someone will fill the void of the insurers who opt out for political reasons.

Large non profit hospital systems will continue to expand their presence in the ACA insurance market. Makes you wonder why the large insurance companies and for profit chains wanted this repeal so bad doesn't it?
 
Socivol said:
But those states wouldn't vote Democratic regardless so would it really hurt the Democratic party? I feel like if you see you have reps that are Republican and they have done nothing you would be more likely to vote them out versus blaming a Democrat for the issue. This also takes into account being somewhat intelligent so I'm unsure how that would play out with that subset of the population.
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While gerrymandering is a problem, when it comes to the house there really isn't any "those states wouldn't vote democratic" (or republican). This was the map before the ACA wiped out the democrats:

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this is today:

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Republicans think sabotaging the ACA won't hurt them and I think they are wrong. It didn't hurt them when Obama was in power, but he isn't anymore. People voted for the GOP because they thought they would fix it, not end it. ie "repeal and replace [with something better, not worse]"

People care about healthcare
 
smokeymicpot said:
White House officials, advisers say Trump is not that upset. He was far angrier about travel ban, Sessions recusal, inauguration crowd size.

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/845386061949915142
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I've always had the impression that Trump would actually like to have improved healthcare for Americans in a way that pleased everyone, purely for the vanity of it. It wouldn't surprise me a lot if he didn't particularly care for the bill anyway.

Of course it's not like he would've put actual work into creating a top class healthcare system for America anyway so who the fuck knows.
 
Leona Lewis said:
You're making zero sense. Every failure makes Trump a more ineffectual executive, which handicaps his ability to enact the vile shit that's next on his agenda.

If he can't do something the Republicans have run on for the past decade, then how can he even come close to building the wall or cutting taxes for the 1%?

If anything less than impeachment merits a puzzlingly defeatist "so what?" then it's no wonder he got elected in the first place.
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Great, handicap his ability. Meanwhile the world will still consider us a laughing stock because he's our president.
 
It was really brave of the Republicans to put their constituents before their party lines and not take their health care away
is how I can see this being spun
 
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This quote is crazy, and should terrify people about what Republicans' priorities have been, but it's... extremely accurate. This is an absolutely perfect explanation of the state of the GOP that has full control of government right now.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
Hahaha. "he's gotten so used to failure that he's not even that mad anymore."
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I don't think Trump actually cared about repealing healthcare, and he seemed to realize that this was unpopular. He'll blame someone else for it failing and move on. His supporters will stay with him.

Trump IS the bus.
 
ferr said:
Great, handicap his ability. Meanwhile the world will still consider us a laughing stock because he's our president.
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You have to take the victories that you can get. Ideally, we could figure out a way to go back in time and ensure that he never got elected. But since that's not possible, enjoying the schadenfreude is basically all we have. What you want isn't possible, and even if it was the alternatives aren't great. Trump gets impeached for treason? Yay! We get Mike fucking Pence. Maybe Pence was involved too? OK, great. Paul Ryan it is. Some cataclysm affects him? Then we move on to Orrin Hatch.

Waiting until 2018 is all we have.
 
Do you guys think this is having a good effect on Trump mentally with all the things he's been unable to do so far in office? Is he capable of just dismissing all of this or do you think at the end of the day, it's greatly affecting him?

Probably not in any meaningful way to where he's going to change in any significant fashion, just a good dosage of reality.
 
Just got back from lunch, saw Trump's trying to pin this on Democrats.

How stupid is this man?

This bill only had 17% favorability. If you give credit to the Dems for making sure it didn't pass, all it does is benefit Dems.

I can't, you guys. I fucking can't with this shriveled orange whale penis. He's so demonstrably stupid.
 
Kusagari said:
I mean it's the truth. They did what they wanted against Obama because they knew that was all pointless. Anything they do now they actually 100% own.
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That's why they pulled the bill. Because they are cowards. Couldn't be caught with either yes or no on the bill.
 
I want to see how this failure gets spun around by the alt right news in a few weeks. I'm sure there​ will be some 5D Chess Grand conspiracy on how this failure is all part of his master plan somehow.
 
geomon said:
Congress needs to put the money back into the risk-corridors program that Marco Rubio ripped out of the ACA. Put that money back in there and the insurers will come back.
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Right, I mean the thing about the risk corridors is that they were supposed to expire right about now -- they were only intended to stop a shock to the system so that people wouldn't shy away from the marketplaces, and therefore rates would drop long-term. So it's not just a matter of paying out the old risk corridor program anymore, we really need to restart the whole affair

The most amazing thing is the lack of outrage among Insurance companies. The program wasn't ended, Rubio just made sure nobody actually gets paid so the government has a bunch of unpaid liabilities and the insurance companies have uncollectable assets

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapo...rs-not-likely-to-revitalize-aca/#57da53a77fe4
 
No one is going to buy "it's the Dems fault" except for maybe the fringe wing of Trump's die hard pepe base. And even then it's questionable.

The Republicans are in power.
 
Jobbs said:
I don't think Trump actually cared about repealing healthcare, and he seemed to realize that this was unpopular. He'll blame someone else for it failing and move on. His supporters will stay with him.

Trump IS the bus.
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I don't know. I just can't buy this. Maybe in his heart of hearts this wasn't an issue that was near and dear to him, but he campaigned heavily on this and strongly backed his bill. I get that he has this reputation of being made of Teflon and that his base will love him no matter what, but this is a serious, serious blow to him.
 
Kadin said:
Do you guys think this is having a good effect on Trump mentally with all the things he's been unable to do so far in office? Is he capable of just dismissing all of this or do you think at the end of the day, it's greatly affecting him?

Probably not in any meaningful way to where he's going to change in any significant fashion, just a good dosage of reality.
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You cant spend two years telling literally the world that everyone before you is a dumbass and that you are the one who will fix everything, then fail at basically everything you've tried so far.

With millions of people watching you fail worldwide.

And not feel fucked up.

Especially if your name is Donald Trump.
 
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