Lego City Undercover Switch cover mentions 13GB download [Up3: Full game on card]
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Yes, they should eat some off the cost, but I don't see how that's an argument for letting Warner Bros entirely off the hook. The idea that upon looking at a Nintendo console third parties become completely innocent in all matters and only pull anti-consumer BS because "it's the only way" seems completely baseless. Neither side wanted to prevent something like this happening, and I won't be giving any attention to WB if they use "people just don't buy our games on Nintendo consoles" as an excuse for not porting their later games to it.
exactly why I said i'm dropping it now as it doesnt prove anything.......
frankie_baby
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Saves can (at present) only be on the switch anyway
Shadow Broker
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Nintendo needs to eat the cost of cart production and offer each cart size at the same price to publishers to prevent this and the $10 extra thing. But today's Nintendo being greedy, they won't. Publishers aren't gonna lose money on it either so they're forced to take anti consumer stances like this instead.
That wasn't your point, and you know it. You made a pointless false equivalency, and I pointed out how ridiculously faulty it was.
I don't have the will to chase goalposts around the world, so I'm moving on.
At that point why not just get the entire game digitally?
Not saying it's a solution but it's fucking stupid to get the physical version if it's useless on its own and you need to download more than half of the entire game.
This is a really shit practice and shouldn't be allowed tho.
Not saying it's a solution but it's fucking stupid to get the physical version if it's useless on its own and you need to download more than half of the entire game.
This is a really shit practice and shouldn't be allowed tho.
frankie_baby
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UnemployedVillain
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Sorry, somehow missed the last sentence of your post
SomedayTheFire
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Pretty smart way at getting around the increasing prices of the carts in all honesty.
My point was that I'm used to mandatory installs being the norm and PS4 installs are bad as well. I was asking you at what point does a mandatory install become unacceptable, to which you still have not answered. It's not that hard of a question.
Jonneh3003
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I mean we have had games that do this, Halo The Master Chief Collection had a 20GB day one update because the entire game couldn't fit on a bluray.
WhiskerFrisker
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So if I get an SD card, I'd just have to reinstall Zelda?
Amazon is the only retailer I see where the base game is cheaper. Game has price parity, where do you see that it's cheaper? Argos sells only a special edition on the other platforms, which is more expensive.
Gamezone
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That's the multiplayer. The single player ran fine without it, so still completely different.
honestly, how much could the cost difference between 8GB and 16GB be?
From a consumer perspective the cost difference is already almost nothing, just look up at amazon. So, from the publisher perspective it's even less than that.
To me, it's not acceptable that you can't play a game at all with just the data on the disc, on any platform.
Mandatory install is not the same thing as mandatory download, btw.
Installing data off of a disc is fine, but required download isn't cool. Games with bundled DLC also should be putting the DLC on the disc, not giving you a voucher to download the DLC.
Vital Tundra
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honestly, how much could the cost difference between 8GB and 16GB be?
virtually nothing to a big name publisher.
Jonneh3003
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Ah my mistake, I didn't try booting the game until the patch had finished.
Flintty
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I got my Zelda DLC from Game, it was a dummy case with nice box art on the shelf. This made me buy it there instead of online so I could get the box. If you can't find an elegant solution to the cart problem you have to go digital and use a box or a code card. Loads of digi games are sold that way.
That's what I figure too, which is why I don't understand this move by WB.
frankie_baby
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Why?
Joelstinton14
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Saw it a couple of days ago when browsing the store, can't currently check it at the moment because it seems the site is down
The whataboutism and false equivalency is transparent, but sure, I'll chase your goalpost once more:
Wherever the line is for me, it's certainly before the point where it fills HALF your out-of-the-box storage and is a *download*.
family_guy
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I think for people primarily using the Switch as a home console, they should at least open the option to store games on an external HDD like you could on Wii U. To put it into perspective, the Vita memory cards had a max size of 32(or 64GB if you get it from Japan ), but most of the games were around 1.5-3 gigs. The Wii U games ended up being 7-15 GB, some up to around 25 GB, so if Switch games end up being around the same size, even a 256GB memory card won't be enough after a year or two.
I never said third parties are innocent. However in this case it's either the publisher eating the cost, Nintendo eating the cost or the consumer eating the cost.
Publishers are no charity and i don't see why they would eat the costs just because Nintendo wants console games on a handheld storage medium. This will only get worse if current gen third party games with 50-60GB space requirements release on Switch
Saw it a couple of days ago when browsing the store, can't currently check it at the moment because it seems the site is down
As of Thursday it was the same price. They must have changed pricing over the weekend then.
PdotMichael
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honestly, how much could the cost difference between 8GB and 16GB be?
If it nothing, Nintendo wouldn't provide the option of going 8GB.
I think HDD support will happen eventually but maybe not for another year or so.
Hopefully not never.
As a collector I agree I prefer all my physical games to have everything on them.
You're being pretty hostile when all I did was ask you a question, when I said I wasn't even going to support this game from the getgo because of this.
WhiskerFrisker
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I thought about it, never mind. Saves shouldn't affect Zelda since it's internal and I have the cart for BotW. So even if I get an SD card it will not matter .
frankie_baby
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With lego games most copies are sold on the cheap
This is what happens, when the publisher has to eat the expense of carts, when they're used to pressing cheap DVD and Blu-ray discs.
I put myself in the business's position. If I'm releasing my product on the 3 major gaming platforms, and I find myself in the position to make significantly less from each purchase, on only one of the platforms, I'm going to be evaluating my strategy.
Nintendo put them in this position, and every way around it screws the consumer. You'll either see day one patches containing the rest of the game, or higher prices.
I put myself in the business's position. If I'm releasing my product on the 3 major gaming platforms, and I find myself in the position to make significantly less from each purchase, on only one of the platforms, I'm going to be evaluating my strategy.
Nintendo put them in this position, and every way around it screws the consumer. You'll either see day one patches containing the rest of the game, or higher prices.
hmmm that's a good point too.
Scale. Even small sums do eventually add up.
Leafhopper
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You still lose the space and the Switch's base storage is tiny considering some of these games.
Either way you need an SD card for this thing anyway.
Given the main selling point for the system, I don't envy the engineers that have to figure out the fundamental problem of what happens when you take the system out of a dock attached to an external HDD and all of the permutations that go into it.
evilromero
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If they crack down it'll force publishers to purchase more expensive cards I'm guessing, which would likely impact the number of third party releases.