Jim Sterling, Laura Kate Dale: Warning to Yooka-Laylee Pre-Orderers
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QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Can you confirm if it's better than nothing?
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
Please explain, Jim?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Backseat modding is against the rules
Man, I saw this game at PAX East and it looked super smooth to me. Maybe they were playing with like SLI GTX 1080s or something.
Definitely had a bad time with the Toybox demo performance though.
Also not surprised if people just don't have a good time with this game though. It looks like exactly like Banjo. There have always been some super valid complaints about those Rare 3D platformers.
Definitely had a bad time with the Toybox demo performance though.
Also not surprised if people just don't have a good time with this game though. It looks like exactly like Banjo. There have always been some super valid complaints about those Rare 3D platformers.
Neff
Member
Preordering blindly- as in being utterly uninformed as to what a title's genre/developer/pedigree entails- is indeed foolish. However-
I dunno about that. I think that if you trust the developer based on their previous work, it's fine. Some franchises/developers/directors just don't need reviews to justify a purchase, imo. There's not many of them, but they do exist.
Team Filler
Member
Jim's an entertainer much more than he is a critic. I don't doubt that his thoughts in reviews are genuine, but he himself often plays up and feeds into the circus aspect that grow out of his various videos and editorials (FucKonami and Oh Ubisoft come to mind immediately). While I think Jim is much more self-aware and talented than bottom of the barrel enthusiast press members like Arthur Gies, I don't find his insights into game design and development to be any more valuable.
I guess this was my long way of saying that I don't consider his vague portents of criticism to be worth anyone's concern, nor a good barometer of whether or not one should or shouldn't preorder (especially since Jim is particularly anti-preorder).
I guess this was my long way of saying that I don't consider his vague portents of criticism to be worth anyone's concern, nor a good barometer of whether or not one should or shouldn't preorder (especially since Jim is particularly anti-preorder).
He never specified a date
All news sources i've seen mention a 2018 release date:
Are you an investor in Psychonauts 2? I'd like to hear from you, and stay in touch until the expected 2018 release.
Psychonauts 2 is slated for an Autumn/Fall 2018 release date, which hopefully gives them enough breathing space that they wont have to pull another Broken Age-style act 1/2 thingy.
The guy asking never specified a date, not double fine. Lol. I figured listing any platformer from now until the death of all time and space was a valid answer?
Wok
Member
There is an embargo so anything other than vague impressions will have to wait.
Delayed to autumn, didn't you pay attention?
Unity isn't the best platform for larger scale project, that much is known. It's a great platform for smaller teams, however, because it allows one to do more with less resources. These kinds of optimization problem will come up on any game with limited resources (read: kickstarter), regardless of game engine.
I'm not blaming Unity, and I'm not explicitly blaming the developers. I'm saying it's completely idiotic to knee jerk blame performance issues on a particular game engine.
Sure, Unreal is all around a more stable and performance optimized engine, but that's not always the better choice considering team size, experience, and development timeline. You can't just say "should've gone with Unreal", because you don't know the development considerations of every team ever.
If Unreal was better than Unity in all scenarios, why are there 1.5 billion Unity games out there still?
Hoho for breakfast
Member
Has there been any clarification here? Some people saying it runs bad others saying it's fine. Do all console versions run like shit, are all of them ok? Is it just the PS4/Xbox One version that are bad? What about Switch?
I'm going to be pissed and feel like an idiot for backing this if it runs terrible. Kickstarter, never again.
I'm going to be pissed and feel like an idiot for backing this if it runs terrible. Kickstarter, never again.
QuantumBro
Banned
You could just change your steam nickname to "JonTron is racist" or "Yooka framerate" for a few months so that all your Steam friends don't get the wrong idea.
I mean, it's your money, but if it's a matter of wanting to wait for reviews AND not having to subsist on ramen?
That's a great idea! The developers should be able to see my username too and will understand that I'm not a racist. Plus it'll go perfect with the '#ResistKony2017' that's already in my username. Everybody wins!
It's not too bad, plus with Persona 5 coming out I can just pretend that I'm eating what my character is eating. It was worked well when I played through Yakuza 0.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Bad performance on a game inspired by Nintendo 64 platformers?
Authenticity!!
Authenticity!!
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Would you have blindly preordered and or purchased Andromeda simply because ME1-3 were decent?
I mean...there is literally no reason to preorder a game unless you know that game will end up being extremely rare and hard to purchase otherwise. The game will still be there after it comes out and after impressions of it are out.
If this game does turn out to be bad, is A Hat In Time our only upcoming non-Nintendo 3D platformer hope?
No, there is another.
Psychonauts 2 looks like it's shaping up to be something special
Wait hold the fucking phone. There's a Psychonauts 2? How did I miss that...?
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Pretty much. ReCore feels like a different game on PC. I run it at max on a 1060 off an SSD and it's fantastic.
As with most legit 3D unity games on consoles i'm expecting performance akin to firewatch or soma when they came out. Ie. Bad.
As with most games, if your on PC i'm sure you can brute force good performance out of it. So i wouldn't worry about that.
Switch is coming at a later date as far as i'm aware, so nothing being shown of that yet.
A Link to the Past
Banned
I don't think it'll go that far. I mean, it's possible for the game to be a big disappointment, but Mighty No. 9 also had problems with the Kickstarter and with a general feeling of distrust over the project and its staff.
Though I guess there are parallels between GG getting mad at M#9 early on and the JonTron thing here. :v
No. I think this game is still going to be exactly what the backers want it to be.
It actually came out in a reasonable time frame without serious shenanigans on the way, so no. It'd just be another disappointing game.
Messofanego
Banned
Psychonauts 2 looks like it's shaping up to be something special
Too far away, disqualified!
OMG I CAN'T WAIT
Blam
Member
Gasp.
Rabid Dwarf 76
Member
What does him being a Junior since 2012 have to do with anything?
Neff
Member
Certainly not, because I didn't think those games were decent.
But sticking with EA, let's say they released a Dead Space 4 by Visceral, I'd be happy to preorder that because I thought the first three were great.
Again I don't agree. There are some games I'm so certain of being good, and feel so eager to have them, that there's no reason for me to wait. If a new tentpole Resident Evil, Zelda, Mario or Metroid game is released, I'm buying it day one, no questions asked. Same for certain developers creating unknown entities. I would have done the same for Scalebound. I'll be doing the same for Death Stranding. I've only ever regretted one preorder. Otherwise, weighing up the contributing factors and making informed decisions -regardless of or even before reviews- has served me well for many years.
Professor Lexicovermis
Member
Why haven't I heard of this game before?
Not even close. Comcept still hasn't made the 3DS and Vita versions and the game and haven't refunded backers for it either.
NeptunePirate
Member
I think Team17 is acting as the publisher. Playtonic should be developing all versions I believe. I could be wrong.
Just removing an outlier because it is an outlier is not proper statistics.
Furthermore, in the end the whole metascore is based on an extremely small sample of just over a hundred persons compared to the group of millions that are the consumers. If you want to talk statistics there is a word to be had how well metascores in general reflect general opinion.
Playtonic, until now, have ran their kickstarter just fine and seem to be delivering on what they promised when they first showed off that gameplay demo. if the end product is mediocre, that'll be a shame, but there have been no second kick-starters, animated cartoons, huge art style shifts, third kick-starters, delays for online modes nobody wanted in the first place, or mysterious disappearing 3DS and Vita versions.
UncleSporky
Member
Right, this is why I said there is a good reason for it, and not simply "because it is an outlier."
-MD-
Member
Playtonic were only handling the PC and (Switch?) versions themselves, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Neff
Member
Playtonic started off developing the Wii U/PC versions, now presumably Switch/PC.
Team17 is working on the PS4/XB1 versions.
Rodney McKay
Member
As a kickstarter backer for this I've never had expectations that this would somehow be better than Banjo Kazooie for me which is one of my favorite games of all time.
From the Toybox demo, it seems like it has a reasonably solid foundation, it just needs some good levels and challenges to work well.
IT would be unfortunate if the performance is junk on the console versions, but hopefully that can be corrected with a patch or a small delay. I'm sure the PC version will be fine which I'm glad is the one I went with, but I also wanted to get this on Switch (assuming I like it enough) and I'm not sure how they're going to be able to get that running well on at all.
From the Toybox demo, it seems like it has a reasonably solid foundation, it just needs some good levels and challenges to work well.
IT would be unfortunate if the performance is junk on the console versions, but hopefully that can be corrected with a patch or a small delay. I'm sure the PC version will be fine which I'm glad is the one I went with, but I also wanted to get this on Switch (assuming I like it enough) and I'm not sure how they're going to be able to get that running well on at all.