Jim Sterling, Laura Kate Dale: Warning to Yooka-Laylee Pre-Orderers
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Lynd7
Member
I've seen a couple of reviewers mention they think the games great, can't remember exactly, maybe Playtonic retweeted it or something.
Opinions will probably be mixed, if certain people want to say it's bad because it's somewhat a throwback in parts of its design, that's on them.
Frame rate hopefully isn't completely awful though..
Opinions will probably be mixed, if certain people want to say it's bad because it's somewhat a throwback in parts of its design, that's on them.
Frame rate hopefully isn't completely awful though..
Not sure you can answer this question, but if you can :
Which version are you reviewing? Pc or consoles?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
They are really enjoying it. Their take in that 50 questions video does a way better job at saying what the game is and what to expect
A Link to the Past
Banned
Let's assume he did indeed break embargo (which he really didn't, reviewers give VERY general, wink-wink statements often before embargoes are up, positive and negative). Why do you hope that he is sued for this? It doesn't benefit you, it only benefits a corporation.
Stripper13
Member
Wow. I welcome all thoughts ASAP on the game - good or bad. As common practice as it is, I think it's shitty to lock opinions behind an arbitrary date, particularly while the publisher advertises the game and sells as many preorders as possible. So if someone wants to put out a warning regarding performance or other issues, I'm all ears.
CrAzY FiNgErS
Member
Question about refund on Steam. If this turns out to be a game that stutters a lot on my PC or if I can't deal with the crappy camera I can return it even if I played toybox for a few hours correct? I would hope that toybox wouldn't count towards the 2 hour playtime limit for returns on the final game.
I really like Jim, but he's a pot stirrer. It'll backfire on him really soon. IE, If Bethesda can blacklist people without a PR crisis, I'm sure anyone can.
I guess it would depend whether Yooka laylee and its toybox is considered as a bundle.
If it is, then the steam refunds page says that the total usage time for all items in the bundle must be less than 2 hours.
poodaddy
Member
Damn I was hyped for it until you said that. I can't in good conscience support it if Jontron is in it though, so I hope he's removed.
OT: I think the game still looks fun and my daughter and I will have a blast playing through it together I'm sure.
I'm not exactly seeing what's that interesting in Hat in time though.
There's an even better way in the end, just stop giving a shit about reviews at all.
They're not even close to being useful for small games and bigger ones you can already make your mind from promo materials, some bits of actual unedited footage and a bit of analysis anyway.
No one warned me about the shitfest that is Other M and its problems that went beyond the story. All reviewers are on my shitlist for that. And a guy that can't stop riding the Destiny Warriors flag will have to provide some Updike level of writing before I even consider their review as anything but digital waste of space.
Nothing I saw so far was that engaging or that big of a turn off.
Performance could be perfectible but considering how outright buggy Bethesda games are review darlings, as long as it's better than that I think it's going to be playable.
I suffered through flickering mess on NES, cinematic slowdowns from N64 on, I'll survive as long as the core gameplay is interesting.
the music is really the bigger problem for me.
There's an even better way in the end, just stop giving a shit about reviews at all.
They're not even close to being useful for small games and bigger ones you can already make your mind from promo materials, some bits of actual unedited footage and a bit of analysis anyway.
No one warned me about the shitfest that is Other M and its problems that went beyond the story. All reviewers are on my shitlist for that. And a guy that can't stop riding the Destiny Warriors flag will have to provide some Updike level of writing before I even consider their review as anything but digital waste of space.
Nothing I saw so far was that engaging or that big of a turn off.
Performance could be perfectible but considering how outright buggy Bethesda games are review darlings, as long as it's better than that I think it's going to be playable.
I suffered through flickering mess on NES, cinematic slowdowns from N64 on, I'll survive as long as the core gameplay is interesting.
the music is really the bigger problem for me.
He signed an agreement, and possibly broke it. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Be better than the "shitty" companies he always complains about.
SweetJohnnyCage
Member
Still purchasing and judging for myself. I'm not a huge fan of Jim's opinions.
You should've stopped there.
You should've stopped there.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
You're only proving his point.
Emabargoes are also important because it allows multiple news outlets/reviewers/youtubers to submit their thoughts to the internet alongside their peers. This means, that one negative review won't have the spotlight shined directly on it in a sea of other reviews. The individual can instead decide based on a wide range of opinions.
Or, of course, listen to whatever asshole they please and plug their ears to everybody else. Their choice. There's no choice involved in this scenario.
Or, of course, listen to whatever asshole they please and plug their ears to everybody else. Their choice. There's no choice involved in this scenario.
A Link to the Past
Banned
You're missing the point. To you, the ideal thing is to be less informed. You view the situation with too much absolution. Like, Konami has the right to wipe P.T. off the face of the earth, but that they did so is not right. We agreed to an EULA, so I guess I would ask if you feel that Konami wiping out P.T. is an okay thing.
OrbitalBeard
Member
The disdain some of you have for Crash Bandicoot is so weird.
These warnings would make sense if embargo didn't end 7 freaking days before the release.
Yea, this is a completely reasonable amount of time before release too. Breaking reasonable embargoes like this is just slimy tbh
Velocity:Design:Comfort
Banned
How is supporting Playtonic Games benefiting a corporation? They don't have a publisher. The game was funded by gamers. They have, what, 30 staff?
Vigilant Gambit
Member
Recently, with ME:A, there was some group of reviewers (don't ask me which) that was discussing the game before its release. Of the group, two of the reviewers had only played the 10 hour EA Access trial, and said the game sucked. The third, who had gotten a copy of the full game, said that it gets better, etc. etc.
I don't recall anyone being mad about that guy "breaking embargo" to say that ME:A gets better after the first planet. So why are people mad about someone "breaking" it to criticize this apparently bad buy of a game?
Edit:
Oh.
Labrynian Rebel
Member
Truly capturing the N64 experience...
Colonel Mustard
Banned
They do have a publisher. While the KS provided seed money to get the project off the ground and give Playtonic a more substantive platform to pitch their game, I highly doubt the money raised would be enough to make the game, port to four platforms, do a physical release and furnish backed rewards.
I believe Team-17 is publishing.
Doesn't stop certain outlets/individuals deciding to break embargo out of hope they'll get a surge in traffic/views - whether or not that risks their relationship with said developer/publisher whose game they've reviewed. That said, embargoes only work when they're created at a reasonable time prior to the game's official launch (i.e. Yooka-Laylee, Horizon). It's the likes of Bethesda, with their now-established policy that will make reviews for their games a clusterfuck of accused/genuinely "rushed" opinions for the sake of viewership.
Poohblaster
Member
I like Jim's content, but his comment is clearly breaking embargo and it was wrong of him to make it.
UncleSporky
Member
I think you mistake attempts at genre/style categorization with actual disdain. If you dislike endless runners or simpler linear platformers, that's on you, and not necessarily the person categorizing it as such.
For real, Mario Run and Rayman mobile games are legit more interesting than plenty of sidescrollers I've had the displeasure of playing.
I would exchange easily these 2 (and others) for shit like Little Big Planet.
Especially when all you have to say is "aaah bad performance, being vague but don't buy it!"
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
Well that's worrying.
Perhaps they felt extremely urged to do so, but it's true: Yooka-Laylee does have a reasonable embargo date, and I think it's super uncool to not adhere to that. You have a week to publish your opinion before the game comes out. Plenty of time to cancel a pre-order, or effect nobody at all.
How is this even similar? Hes a reviewer, he agreed to the embargo and now his sole "impressions" are driving the talk of the game.
SomedayTheFire
Member
my god are people defending embargoes now? lmao literally every reviewer makes comments like this, it just doesn't matter when it's positive, right? like the multiple reviewers in this thread.
Has it been established what version of the game they played? I think that would clear a lot of this up.
I was going to go PS4, but I was starting to lean toward PC lately since it was $8 cheaper (here in Canada) on Steam anyway.
It's super weird to see all of the performance perfectionist talk on simple hemming and hawing type talk from the podcast. Best to wait for all the facts. I wouldn't be shocked if it's console versions, or, simply put, non-Playtonic platforms (the Xbone and PS4 ports).
And the opinions on platformers in here from some are insanity, haha. I'm all for different opinions, but some of the opinions flying around in here are blowing my mind!
I was going to go PS4, but I was starting to lean toward PC lately since it was $8 cheaper (here in Canada) on Steam anyway.
It's super weird to see all of the performance perfectionist talk on simple hemming and hawing type talk from the podcast. Best to wait for all the facts. I wouldn't be shocked if it's console versions, or, simply put, non-Playtonic platforms (the Xbone and PS4 ports).
And the opinions on platformers in here from some are insanity, haha. I'm all for different opinions, but some of the opinions flying around in here are blowing my mind!
No, it does matter when its positive. Thats just as bad.
If you accept the copy of the game pre-release, respect the embargo. No matter what.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Firstly, you put impressions in quotes. I mean, they are impressions, right? If so, the quotes aren't needed, it's just done to devalue what he said.
Secondly, the similarity is that gamers do not benefit from embargoes, companies do. Further, as SomedayTheFire noted, embargoes aren't evenly applied. If someone says a vague praise of a game - and I've seen that happen TONS - no one bats an eye. So when it's disproportionately directed at a vague "erm" about the game, it feels like silencing.
People who agreed to the embargo have been speaking up in contrary to what Jim said in this very thread.
Reviewers are allowed to show and discuss footage from the first two worlds according to the embargo.
It doesnt matter if embargo's are beneficial to gamers. Reviewers sign a contract for it. Positive breaks are just as bad. Instead of your straw man argument that you see it all the time can you point to any other reviewers that have dropped little hints in regards to this specific game?
and that is just as bad.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Can someone point me to an article about why Unity is so terrible? I hear about it all the time, but I assumed everyone loved Unity since that's one of he suggested "getting started" options people suggest most.