PJV3
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What have they been doing for the last three decades? Metric is just a sensible system, the German language comparison is way out.
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What have they been doing for the last three decades? Metric is just a sensible system, the German language comparison is way out.
Carrying around pocked calculators so they could convert metric into their hideously archaic forms of measurement.
Their way of thinking is hideously archaic too.
Isn't that what they themselves are advocating? Everybody that is used to sensible units should now be forced to use trash units, just because.
Pretty much. My grandparents thought it was ridiculous to know your height/weight in metric and not imperial, and would welcome it getting changed over.
Yet if you ask whether they are also going to want pounds to be replaced by shillings, they tell you to shut up and stop being cheeky
PJV3
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Beyond sticking it to the French there is no reason to force people to learn it, there was a valid reason to go metric.
If it ever happened i would have to side with Miles(apt name) and want their voting rights removed.
Ardenyal
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"It's the will of the people.. It's the will of the people."
*curls into a ball*
"it's the will of the people...."
I have to admit, I kinda wanna see the UK go to war over Gibraltar while it exits the EU. All the while reverting to the Imperial system. This is just so many layers of fuckery heaped upon each other, my head would spin out of its socket out of incredulity.
Why stop there, though.
Come on, UK, you can still one-up this. My neck may shatter from all the head shaking, but I will do my best to endure.
Why stop there, though.
Come on, UK, you can still one-up this. My neck may shatter from all the head shaking, but I will do my best to endure.
PJV3
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We can't go back to imperial - this old man is kept alive by his burning hatred for the metric system. If he doesn't have signs to nick he'll have no purpose left in life.
There's someone desperately looking for the bog on Ferry Road, why isn't that old loon locked up?
Spaced Harrier
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Ah it'd make ya proud.
To complete the fuckery they should start driving on the wrong side of the ro... Oh
Don't forget the passports.
Except it isn't because reasons, even excluding the fact that the metric system isn't a language, it is certifiably better in a way that can be measured and rationalized, it leads to better productivity and less mistakes, it is also used by over 90% of the world population.
Every time the imperial vs metric system comes up I am always reminded of this:
Some traffic law from 1994 says that all signs must use imperial or something.
Even if they did lock him up, the Active Resistance to Metrication will never give up!
Also that bringing trains to India justified colonialism.
Imperial measures are an illogical mess for weird nostalgics, the perfect symbol for Brexit.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...on-gibraltar-brexit-talks-diplomats-say-spain
Good stuff, a rip roaring success all round so far!
Oh, and here is the Sunday Sport's take on it. little bit nsfw.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8ZU5bWXUAA51kg.jpg
Good stuff, a rip roaring success all round so far!
Oh, and here is the Sunday Sport's take on it. little bit nsfw.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8ZU5bWXUAA51kg.jpg
PJV3
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UK should just take the deal if it is good and deal with Gibraltar as it's own problem. What's the point of refusing a deal because of a rock that isn't getting one anyway.
Brexit media going all in on this Gibraltar thing
Britain's Navy is far weaker than it was during the Falklands war but could still "cripple" Spain
Madness.
Britain's Navy is far weaker than it was during the Falklands war but could still "cripple" Spain
Madness.
PJV3
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Carry on with this bullshit and I see Scotland leaving by a comfortable margin.
Funky Papa
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Some random musings about this whole Gibraltar mess:
- I think it's literally amazing that the UK forgot to mention Gibraltar in the official statement yet the EU not only did so, but gave immense powers over the situation to Spain. It goes on to show that the EU is willing to act as one and circle the wagons around Spain even if nobody else really cares about Gibraltar, which was strictly​ an internal bilateral issue until a couple of days ago.
- The Times claims that the Spanish government fooled May by telling her that they wouldn't pursue Gibraltar. The EU acknowledging Gibraltar by surprise has created a significant rift according to The Times. I find this hard to believe. First things first, it makes no sense for May not to put Gibraltar front and center and it wouldn't have hurt the negotiations at all. Second, May's government was caught wrong footed by the news. Which is just shocking since Gibraltar was one of the salient points of the Remain campaign. My uneducated guess is that May and her crack team of brexiteers didn't even think about the Rock in a glaring example of incompetence. And if they willingly omitted Gibraltar due to Alfonso Alonso's (an ax wielding party loyalist with no finesse and little acumen) deception, they are going to get their clocks cleaned right away.
- The previous Minister of Foreign Affairs was a brute. Alfonso Dastis, however, has European blue blood. He's been picked to clean up after Margallo and reinforce Spain's position within the EU by cultivating relationships with other member states. I'll be surprised if Gibraltar gets removed from the draft document.
- I really want to hear what May has to say about this mess.
I can't help but feel that talking about war with an EU nation less than a week after exiting is going to bite us in the ass.
Though nothing will come of it, of course. Nope. Nothing.
We can't go back to imperial - this old man is kept alive by his burning hatred for the metric system. If he doesn't have signs to nick he'll have no purpose left in life.
Is that one of those criminals that gets deported now?
It 100% won't be removed. Can't see it happening.
Rumor is Rajoy heavily lobbied for this in the 26 EU countries (especially Paris and Berlin). Also from what i've been reading in the german press Spain is now considered as one of the big 4 in the EU and is supposed to become stronger involved now that Britain is gone.
Why would they? They don't give a shit about any concerns of the remainers thus it has infected all their thinking to ignore and omit anything related to it. Their general attitude is to pretend wrinkles to their plan don't exist, so Gibraltar as a problem didn't get considered.
Like with Trump in the US, this government wants to tackle very difficult issues that would challenge the most capable governments in the world. Unfortunately, it is the incompetents and the bunglers that want to do this, in stunning cases of government wide Dunning-Kruger effect.
Miles Quaritch
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I can't recall where I read it, but there was an article a few days ago about how benefit claimants should be used to fill in the gap let by the EU workers in the fields. Not paid work, but using unpaid apprenticeships. There was an another article where companies like Costa were looking into using the same scheme to fill the gap left by |EU workers, they were talking about giving them free lunches as payment for the work.
This is where we are now. Don't you just love it.
Embarrassing and comes back to what I want to see happen to the UK, I want to see them squashed by the EU, I want people to realise the UK isn't the power it once was and it's been punched far above its weight primarily thanks to being in the EU.
I say as this as a soon to be emigrating Brit. I'll be renting out my house, because fuck the UK housing market and fuck those who are forcing me to leave. Submitted plans to the council to turn it into four one bedroom flats a couple of months ago, fingers crossed some cunt doesn't throw a spanner into the works. They know have to let everyone on the street know what the plans are and give then an opportunity to raise concerns about why I shouldn't be allowed to go ahead with it.
Bullshit.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Spain is one of the Big 4 by virtue of the UK leaving the Union*. Its political weight greatly diminished during the past years due to the crisis and Margallo being an idiot, but it may overtake Italy if they keep pushing for joke eurosceptic parties such as the M5S sice we are probably the most pro-Union country along Germany.
*And now a net contributor too. Hooray?
Miles Quaritch
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Until the British immigrants who created their own ghetto leave. Don't forget about their spending power and how they keep your country afloat.
You don't want the sangria market to collapse overnight.
People live longer than 3 decades, and yes if you ain't educated in metric it is the equivalent of not being fluent in another language.
They have to convert metric to imperial in their head to be able to understand and quantify it.
I instinctively know what a metre is, if someone mentions feet and inches to me I need to convert it to metric before I can understand it. The need to do this is getting much less frequent these days.
Muffin1611
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On one hand, I feel really bad for the people living on Gibraltar.
On the other hand, this was extremely predictable and the level of gross incompetence displayed by the UK government is as staggering as always.
On the other hand, this was extremely predictable and the level of gross incompetence displayed by the UK government is as staggering as always.
CyclopsRock
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One lives in Gib. It's not an island.
Muffin1611
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Sorry, prepositions are the bane of my English skills. I'm not a native speaker.
I speak Imperial, Metric, English, German and a bit of French.
Muffin1611
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Languages aren't objectively better than others dude. The metrical system has logical merits in comparison to the Imperial one.
Fantastapotamus
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Somebody find a Spanish woman for George. That's how crisis things are usually settled.
What's next? Bring Sir Francis Drake back to life and blockade all EU ports? It make sense in the imperialistic mindset that seems to pollute UK, but:
ClosingADoor
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Yes, if they ever rejoin (and the others want it to) they will have to adopt the Euro over time, since those are the rules now for new countries joining.
But the idea that some would rather have an uncertain future then a certain one where it is set that they don't have to adopt the Euro, and use the argument "well, things could change!" is just baffling.
Moral Panic
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The Gibraltar thing is surprising to me because, at least how it stands, it completely scuppers any chance of a deal between UK and the EU. And the EU must realise this. of course, which then puts the question of why put it there?
I understand in a pre-leave vote argument, but when UK has already left it doesn't really make sense to destroy any chance of a trade deal right off the bat. I expected the EU to play tough and batter the UK for brexit, but I wager WTO rules are better politically (and frankly emotionally to the National identity) than losing Gibraltar. So do they actually want any deal at all?
The Falklands comparisons are a bit sickening to consider due to the massive loss of life, but the fact is that it the same rational for fighting for them still applies. Spain is a NATO member and won't invade so the "war" talk is extremely inappropriate, but I would put every penny I own on the idea that UK would rather crash out without any deal than lose Gibraltar. And frankly that's a move I agree with.
Gibraltar doesn't want to be part of Spain and didn't choose brexit, so giving them up in completely unconscionable. It will never happen.
I understand in a pre-leave vote argument, but when UK has already left it doesn't really make sense to destroy any chance of a trade deal right off the bat. I expected the EU to play tough and batter the UK for brexit, but I wager WTO rules are better politically (and frankly emotionally to the National identity) than losing Gibraltar. So do they actually want any deal at all?
The Falklands comparisons are a bit sickening to consider due to the massive loss of life, but the fact is that it the same rational for fighting for them still applies. Spain is a NATO member and won't invade so the "war" talk is extremely inappropriate, but I would put every penny I own on the idea that UK would rather crash out without any deal than lose Gibraltar. And frankly that's a move I agree with.
Gibraltar doesn't want to be part of Spain and didn't choose brexit, so giving them up in completely unconscionable. It will never happen.
I agree with the above. Such a weird tactic. There's "non-negotiable", and then there's actually non-negotiable.
We're talking about Spain wanting to effectively annex part of our territory that we've had for 300 years and has 30,000 people that voted 99% in a referendum to stay in the UK less than 15 years ago.
Tusk said they wouldn't seek to be punitive, but then they put this out.
If they stick to it then there's no point of even trying, there isn't going to be a deal. There is absolutely no way the UK will move on this.
We're talking about Spain wanting to effectively annex part of our territory that we've had for 300 years and has 30,000 people that voted 99% in a referendum to stay in the UK less than 15 years ago.
Tusk said they wouldn't seek to be punitive, but then they put this out.
If they stick to it then there's no point of even trying, there isn't going to be a deal. There is absolutely no way the UK will move on this.
ClosingADoor
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The EU warned about this stuff. The UK didn't take it serious. The UK was wrong for now.
The EU wants a trade deal, but they can't make it easy on them and they have to keep all their members happy. If the UK just leaves and we all go "here have a good trade deal" why would any EU country stay in the union? The purpose of the union is so you all benefit, but also all pay the cost sometimes. The UK doesn't want to pay the cost, so they don't have a right to the benefits.
And having both Spain and the UK in the EU meant the Gibraltar thing was settled mostly. Now the situation changes again and both can use it for political gain.
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