CNBC: US military has launched more than 50 missiles aimed at Syria: NBC News

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Between this and talks of pre-emptive strike talks about NK, we're entering a very dangeous age.

This action isnt new Obama did the same thing. Trump didnt target civilian population areas, but the military base the just launched the chemical attacks.

And I far from a Trump fan, but its being blown up because "its him ordering it" not because of what happen
 
Lolwut?! You actually believe the Kremlin, which has poured its military and financial assets, at great expense to itself, into propping up the Assad regime is HAPPY that Trump (their supposed ally) is now bombing the shit out of their Baathist friends?? Yeah sure buddy.

Well they might not be happy, but I doubt Putin cares THAT much about Syria.
 
And this basically why not to support this. hillary was wrong on Libya, and is wrong here. She is much more competent than Trump and still was unable to contribute to any meaningfully good outcomes in Libya. Obama made a mistake listening to her.

kneecapping assays ability to wage war on his citizens might seem like a good idea, but it's all fun and games until ISIS sets up the next government

Edit: don't see this helping Trump either, the mood on wars is much different in the US today.

Nah: Everyone says the Libya intervention was a failure. They’re wrong.
 
This action isnt new Obama did the same thing. Trump didnt target civilian population areas, but the military base the just launched the chemical attacks.
False. Obama attacked ISIS targets. He never attacked Syria and its government.
 
"There can be no dispute that Syria used banned chemical weapons"

-US

Definitely don't need to wait to get confirmation it wasn't ISIS.

Don't talk about it.
 
Can't make this shit up.

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So what the fuck kind of drugs do alt righters use to "like" Assad so much. Boggles the mind.

Pro-Russian, anti-Israel nationalist strongman who protects the Christian minority in Syria and is against Kurds (communists) and ISIS (well, you know, not really, but it's useful propaganda).
 
From where?

Holy fucking shit. I didn't even know it was possible to shoot down a tomahawk? Is it?

Edit: it is, but it seems like you would have to know about the launch immediately and intercept with fighter jets. I don't buy it.

The S400 missile system can counter a lot, but 60+ at a single location probably overwhelmed anything, plus it seems to be a surprise strike. This doesn't end here though, only escalates things.
 
You're constantly handwringing in these threads, of course you were gonna come in with fake concern lecturing us over tone. It's what you do, you have your own flavor of Kool Aid you like to chug in gallons.

So you disagree with me but can't formulate an argument so are caricaturing my concerns as "a thing I do" and therefore negating any potential point I might have while waiving the need to respond.

Got it.

Thats like me saying this entire post is just you batting away anyone who you disagree with and minimizing them to being trolls because its what you do in every thread. And you're brainwashed by the need to defend being anti-Trump, its the koolaid you pump into your veins and made into your avatar, and thats why you felt the need to respond to me general post as if it was directed exactly at you, and why you say "us" as if you are a part of some group.

See how I didn't actually respond and made a bunch of assumptions about who you are and portrayed you to be pushing an exterior agenda instead of talking about anything we were actually talking about?

Trust me if Im wringing my hands in threads its not as a cartoon, its probably because im actually worried about something. The fact that you view things the way you do though, and think that people are doing what you think they are, might say some interesting things about the way you think to say the least.
 
And this basically why not to support this. hillary was wrong on Libya, and is wrong here. She is much more competent than Trump and still was unable to contribute to any meaningfully good outcomes in Libya. Obama made a mistake listening to her.

kneecapping assays ability to wage war on his citizens might seem like a good idea, but it's all fun and games until ISIS sets up the next government

Edit: don't see this helping Trump either, the mood on wars is much different in the US today.

Actually, the part of the operation in Libya that Hillary had the most input in resulted in what most considered to be a good. We prevented Qadaffi from sending in his troops to slaughter a town full of people. This part of the conflict is not in debate: that was GOING to happen.

The problem with Libya wasn't the initial action, it was the follow-through. Basically, there was no follow-through, and ISIS filled the vacuum. And this was largely due to Obama wanting to quickly remove the US from the situation.
 
Donald Trump is the biggest threat to the world. Any chance of an alien mothership to fire a plasma beam at Mar-a-lago to save us all?
 
This is a semantic argument I'm not interested in.

Are you arguing that isolationists should generally be fine with this?

If not, then it seems weird to call some faction of Trump supporters isolationists if that faction is generally fine with this, no?

Oh, I see what you're saying now. I thought you meant Trump supporters would be fine with this because they're isolationists. In that case, yes, Trump supporters are likely to be hypocrites. Some of them are already speaking against this though, that's why I said it'll be interesting to see how many follow suit.
 
Attack happened:

1) Months after Trump campaining hard against this.
2) A week after he reiterated USA should do nothing.
3) At fucking Mar-a-Lago, during a dinner with China.
4) Without the State Department being informed. Without the NSC being informed.

To me, it's fucking terrifying. I don't care if it's theorically the right decision. It won't end well.
 
So... Er... This wasn't in our national defense interests.

The right thing to do? Arguably. But necessary for Homeland defense?

Presidential overreach?
 
It's a decision that I unfortunately think anybody in this position would have done. Even Bernie Sanders, to an extent. Though they probably would have gotten congressional approval.

The difference being that Trump is completely inept when it comes to any form of leadership, and this conflict will most likely get worse because of it. Also, more of his supporters hate him now.
 
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