CNBC: US military has launched more than 50 missiles aimed at Syria: NBC News

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Fat4all said:
Details? How many missiles were used, their specific target and goals, time of the operation, who was informed and consulted?

Basic information?
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Russia was informed

It's all there on the news. That info doesn't need to come from Trump himself.
 
ginger ninja said:
Good. Hate Trump as much as one could but if you saw those pictures​ from this week and countless others over the last 7 years, you would know Assad deserves Everything that's coming to hope. And I hope it's swift Justice.
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This so blatantly wrong. You think Russia is going to let Assad fall? No. No more than the US will let Saudi Arabia or Israel fall. The Russians bombed the US trained rebels to shit and the US didn't do anything. Now you just have a bunch of warhawks trying to tug at the heart strings of dead Syrian children to do what, haphazardly send 60+ cruise missiles into an airbase?

There will be no justice. If the US wants regime change sanction Russia, apply diplomatic pressure. The fucking Trump Administration would rather call Americans killers than Putin a killer, but somehow this is the right course of action? This will only escalate. This isn't Iraq, this isn't Libya. This is a country where Putin just spent millions of hard won Rubles supporting Assad at a time their own country struggling. They will definitely have something to say about this. I wonder will the Trump administration allow Syrian refugees? They care so much but not enough to let them enter the country. Russia being informed means nothing. They probably wanted to make sure no dead Russians. But now Russia is definitely going to pivot back in.
 
Drifters said:
I can't play this straw man argument anymore. If Syrians were bombed in Syria with chemical weapons then I would say we have a pretty good clue who did it.
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The planes came from there. that's all they know.
who knows where the chemical stockpiles are. Today they announced traces at several places. Could be anywhere.
 
pigeon said:
Trump is irrational and incompetent, which means I don't trust him even with choices and operations I would trust other presidents with.
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You're describing your feelings about Trump, which is fine, but you're not contributing meaningful discussion to this topic.
 
JustenP88 said:
You really want this mother fucker to lead the charge on this? Is everything fixed now or is this just the beginning? Are we going to start taking in refugees or are we going to continue with the morally abhorrent cognitive dissonance of leaving them to deal with the horrors of their home while we, probably, begin dropping our own bombs on their heads.

Bomb the shit out of them. You've got to get their families. Yeah, king islamophobe is here to liberate the oppressed population of Syria.
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As of now, what has happened, was the right move. If I had the choice obviously Trump would not be the guy I pick as captain of the team

Correct decision for airstrikes =/= supporting Trump and all of his policies and rhetoric
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
Targeted at ISIS, vs targeted at the Syrian regime. It's night and day difference yes because the political implications are extremely large.
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They advised the russians, and probably the syrian regime, in advanced. Sure Assad is probably pissed. But this probably stops here. It was for the chemical weapons. They're not going to bomb Assad.
 
I think this needed to happen. The level of inaction against the Syrian regime because of Russia and China has made us appear incredibly weak and the UN has appeared a beauractraticly weak when it matters institution. This is really the only way to say "Syria, we won't accept you violating the Geneva convention any longer."
 
therealist said:
People lose credibility when they can't acknowledge that this move in a vacuum was in line with what a lot of Presidents and presidential candidates would have done. You can hate on the repercussions of a move like this, but you can't hate on the move itself unless you have a well thought out argument.
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No one would have done it like this.

The NSC & the State Department were not informed.
 
Golden_Pigeon said:
If Clinton would have done the same thing, maybe a lot of the people would have been cheering right now.

I am 100 % against Trump and american imperialism, and the iraqi war.
But i believe that in that case, it's better than to just look the Syrian people being slaughtered.
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I supported doing something in 2013 when the situation was much more controllable and got heavy pushback on here for it. Now, I do not trust Trump at all to see this through in the strategic nature necessary and the situation has gotten far worse and complicated.
 
Golden_Pigeon said:
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jetjevons said:
Fixed.
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JHoNNy1OoO said:
They know the playbook. You invoke God so that all those crazies(which Bannon is one of) who believe in the Second Coming of Jesus Christ when the Middle East goes tits up start approving and defending this bullshit.
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English isn't my first language and even though I'm an atheist I keep using omg and jesus christ when I talk american because that's how I learned the language as a teen on the internet lol

I don't believe one second that Bannon believes in God and even less in the second coming. But yeah I guess the evengelicals are gonna support any military action if you tell God is behind it ...
 
Madness said:
This so blatantly wrong. You think Russia is going to let Assad fall? No. No more than the US will let Saudi Arabia or Israel fall. The Russians bombed the US trained rebels to shit and the US didn't do anything. Now you just have a bunch of warhawks trying to tug at the heart strings of dead Syrian children to do what, haphazardly send 60+ cruise missiles into an airbase?

There will be no justice. If the US wants regime change sanction Russia, apply diplomatic pressure. The fucking Trump Administration would rather call Americans killers than Putin a killer, but somehow this is the right course of action? This will only escalate. This isn't Iraq, this isn't Libya. This is a country where Putin just spent millions of hard won Rubles supporting Assad at a time their own country struggling. They will definitely have something to say about this. I wonder will the Trump administration allow Syrian refugees? They care so much but not enough to let them enter the country. Russia being informed means nothing. They probably wanted to make sure no dead Russians. But now Russia is definitely going to pivot back in.
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Yea we should just sit back with our hands like we have for the last 3-4 years since Obama's red line was crossed. That seemed to have worked out wonderfully so far.
 
So it's safe to assume that the airfield no longer exists on this earth? I mean it could have been worst and he could have bombed civilian areas trying to hit Assad forces.
 
I'm still fuzzy on how Hillary Clinton had the ability to call out this attack just HOURS before it happened.

Trump sure as fuck wouldn't tell her anything ahead of time.

Is this the biggest coincidence ever? Or is something else afoot?
 
Crazyorloco said:
So....without congressional approval. What the hell.
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therealist said:
You're describing your feelings about Trump, which is fine, but you're not contributing meaningful discussion to this topic.
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Meaningful discussion does not mean agreeing with you.

This isn't a difficult concept to grasp. People don't trust Trump. His presidency has been a clusterfuck of epic proportions and he's already botched a military operation before this. We can talk about what kind of responses this will elicit while also pointing out that Trump is a buffoon.
 
TheJLC said:
So it's safe to assume that the airfield no longer exists on this earth? I mean it could have been worst and he could have bombed civilian areas trying to hit Assad forces.
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No, tomahawks can't crater an airfield, could just hit planes and infrastructure at the airbase.
 
Aztechnology said:
I think this needed to happen. The level of inaction against the Syrian regime because of Russia and China has made us appear incredibly weak and the UN has appeared a beauractraticly weak when it matters institution. This is really the only way to say "Syria, we won't accept you violating the Geneva convention any longer."
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I would rather appear weak than get embroiled in Syria.

This is one area where Hilary was dead wrong on.
 
Fancyarcher said:
Well they might not be happy, but I doubt Putin cares THAT much about Syria.
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There seems to be a shocking level of ignorance by many here regarding Russia's role in the Syrian Civil War, a role that has seen Moscow act as the principle combatant in the conflict. There are Russian troops now taking part in ground operations in the country while the RuAF carries out round-the-clock bombing missions anti-Assad positions. Meanwhile Tartus Naval Base is expanding as more and more supplies for Assad arrive and the air force conducting. It's a very costly deployment for Russia, particularly at a time when their public finances are in the shit.

Putin has a deep-rooted strategic interest in keeping Assad in power.
 
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