Even Bendis is Confused By Peter's Best Friend in Spider-Man: Homecoming
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EchoChamber
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They used Harry two times so they needed another friends to use.
This is probably it
What? 'Ned Leeds'? That's... a weird piece of character doubling up.
Yeah, and Ganke was a perfect character to go to as an alternative, but calling him Ned Leeds, who in the comics was a character who couldn't be more different than Ganke, seems a bit weird.
I'm gonna guess there's some stupid shit like the name Ganke "didn't test well" or whatever bullshit Hollywood bases these decisions on these days.
Yeah, and Ganke was a perfect character to go to as an alternative, but calling him Ned Leeds, who in the comics was a character who couldn't be more different than Ganke, seems a bit weird.
I'm gonna guess there's some stupid shit like the name Ganke "didn't test well" or whatever bullshit Hollywood bases these decisions on these days.
Elegant Weapon
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Ned Leeds was never Spider-Man's pal. In fact, Peter Parker never had a best friend figure who knew he was Spidey; it's why Ganke Lee is unique to the Spider-Man mythos, specifically Miles Morales.
So it's weird to see Peter with a strikingly similar version Miles' best friend but that's the direction they wanted to go apparently
So it's weird to see Peter with a strikingly similar version Miles' best friend but that's the direction they wanted to go apparently
Mr Fahrenheit
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They've used Harry to death, or they wanted to use some aspect of Ultimate without actually replacing Peter since in terms of recognizability Miles might as well not exist when the two are compared.
Maybe they are keeping it open for Miles if they ever introduce him
echoshifting
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Using Ned's name is the weird part
I don't have a problem with notGanke and young Peter being friends, though; he's a great character and I'm sick of the Osborns
I don't have a problem with notGanke and young Peter being friends, though; he's a great character and I'm sick of the Osborns
He is more like the cool drunk uncle
BronsonLee
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harry didn't meet peter until college anyways IIRC, makes no sense for him to be a best friend. His character archetype probably also did not fit into the story of a young peter anyways.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Don't they do this relatively often in comic book movies?
Iron Man 2 for instance took the character of crimson dynamo and gave him whiplash's powers.
The bad guy in Iron Man 3 was a super obscure comic book character too
Iron Man 2 for instance took the character of crimson dynamo and gave him whiplash's powers.
The bad guy in Iron Man 3 was a super obscure comic book character too
It's such a cynical move. Homecoming needs more diversity so of course Peter's new friend can just be stolen from Miles.
Miles and Ganke were a great duo and a significant pairing because it was allowed for the perspective of the superhero world through the eyes of two minority kids, figuring this shit out together.
Miles and Ganke were a great duo and a significant pairing because it was allowed for the perspective of the superhero world through the eyes of two minority kids, figuring this shit out together.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Forgot about him. X-Men First Class chopped up Sebastian Shaw quite a bit too.
And Teenage Negasonic Warhead
Pai Pai Master
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I was also confused why a character from Man-Thing ended up being a henchmen-level villain in Iron Man 3. Marvel does this a lot for some reason.
thecouncil
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Thread title makes it seem like Bendis' first name is "Even".
The Salt Life
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Nope, he is in some animated sony movie
What did he mean by this?
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Wants them royalties
Ganke!
Ganke!
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
The extended school cast feels incredibly forced and without even a hint of nuance. Reeks of Sony moreso than Marvel.
Promo shots like this are kinda fitting when you consider Spider-Man sports Pepsi colours.
Promo shots like this are kinda fitting when you consider Spider-Man sports Pepsi colours.
Que? Forced how? And please don't say that the racial diversity in this film is forced.The extended school cast feels incredibly forced and without even a hint of nuance. Reeks of Sony moreso than Marvel.
Promo shots like this are kinda fitting when you consider Spider-Man sports Pepsi colours.
What do you mean forcedThe extended school cast feels incredibly forced and without even a hint of nuance. Reeks of Sony moreso than Marvel.
Promo shots like this are kinda fitting when you consider Spider-Man sports Pepsi colours.
CloudyTuba
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I'm fine with them stealing Ganke for Peter in the MCU but I wish they would just call him by his name instead of slapping another irrelevant name on him. That's not Ned, that's Ganke.
JesseEwiak
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The extended school cast feels incredibly forced and without even a hint of nuance. Reeks of Sony moreso than Marvel.
Promo shots like this are kinda fitting when you consider Spider-Man sports Pepsi colours.
No, that looks like Queens in 2017, the most diverse place in America.
The extended school cast feels incredibly forced and without even a hint of nuance. Reeks of Sony moreso than Marvel.
Promo shots like this are kinda fitting when you consider Spider-Man sports Pepsi colours.
Your only exposure to new york is Girls and Friends right?
Velocity:Design:Comfort
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The extended school cast feels incredibly forced and without even a hint of nuance. Reeks of Sony moreso than Marvel.
Promo shots like this are kinda fitting when you consider Spider-Man sports Pepsi colours.
Peter goes to school in Queens...
ElBoxyBrown
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The extended school cast feels incredibly forced and without even a hint of nuance. Reeks of Sony moreso than Marvel.
Promo shots like this are kinda fitting when you consider Spider-Man sports Pepsi colours.
Why is it always considered forced when a game, book, comic, movie, or tv show wants a diverse cast? He's going to school in NY.
The extended school cast feels incredibly forced and without even a hint of nuance. Reeks of Sony moreso than Marvel.
Promo shots like this are kinda fitting when you consider Spider-Man sports Pepsi colours.
yeah, super forced, what type of weirdo friend group consists of people from different ethnicities amiright /s
2017 New York, friend. Queens, no less.
Cause white is the default and standard, anything straying from that is abnormal. Despite the general public responding well to diversity
The extended school cast feels incredibly forced and without even a hint of nuance. Reeks of Sony moreso than Marvel.
Promo shots like this are kinda fitting when you consider Spider-Man sports Pepsi colours.
MJ looks amazing in this pic
Haha, visit New York City sometime.
If it's in Queens then that looks about right.The extended school cast feels incredibly forced and without even a hint of nuance. Reeks of Sony moreso than Marvel.
Promo shots like this are kinda fitting when you consider Spider-Man sports Pepsi colours.
You'd think a diverse representation would be considered very nuanced. I guess that doesn't apply if there's only one white guy in an EW photoshoot.
Ignoring the Ganke-theft for a second, the film cast minority actors in a lot of roles without changing the very "white" names ("Ned Leeds" isn't the only incidence of this) so I get how that specific aspect could feel artificial.
I went to a pretty diverse HS, but lunchtime looked like the cafeteria in OITNB.
Because most white people don't have many non-white people in their social circles. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rs-of-whites-dont-have-any-non-white-friends/
I went to a pretty diverse HS, but lunchtime looked like the cafeteria in OITNB.
George Oscar Bluth II
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"Forced"? It was the directors decision because he wanted the school to seem real, which meant actually having diversity.The extended school cast feels incredibly forced and without even a hint of nuance. Reeks of Sony moreso than Marvel.
Promo shots like this are kinda fitting when you consider Spider-Man sports Pepsi colours.
Elegant Weapon
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this is why people cry "white genocide" when a major film isn't centered on forcing white people down our throats
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Yes I know Queens is diverse, thanks for the hot takes everybody.
The Burger King Kids Club approach to diversity just doesn't do it for me when you're getting adaptations of characters in name only that aren't gonna go anywhere. Ned Leeds gonna become the Hobgoblin? Flash Thompson gonna become Agent Venom with a drunk dad backstory? Nope. It's dead end casting.
Spectacular Spider-Man the cartoon remains this gold standard of a moving image adaptation of the webbed wonder because it did all this shit real good:
The Burger King Kids Club approach to diversity just doesn't do it for me when you're getting adaptations of characters in name only that aren't gonna go anywhere. Ned Leeds gonna become the Hobgoblin? Flash Thompson gonna become Agent Venom with a drunk dad backstory? Nope. It's dead end casting.
Spectacular Spider-Man the cartoon remains this gold standard of a moving image adaptation of the webbed wonder because it did all this shit real good:
Jorok Goldblade
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Harry has too much Goblin baggage (ironically, so does Ned)
Yes I know Queens is diverse, thanks for the hot takes everybody.
The Burger King Kids Club approach to diversity just doesn't do it for me when you're getting adaptations of characters in name only that aren't gonna go anywhere. Ned Leeds gonna become the Hobgoblin? Flash Thompson gonna become Agent Venom with a drunk dad backstory? Nope. It's dead end casting.
Spectacular Spider-Man the cartoon remains this gold standard of a moving image adaptation of the webbed wonder because it did all this shit real good:
Flash can't become Agent Venom because he's Indian? Why?
What about Ned prevents him from being Hobgoblin exactly? How many movies do you think they're going to make?
Gentleman Jack
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This is not a good reason to make all of Peter's friends lily white in Queens, nor is it sufficient explanation for the dumb 'forced diversity' argument. I looked up some high schools in Queens, it's a damn rainbow of color, and I'd rather see that represented in a movie set in New York about a New York kid in a New York high school instead of another fucking episode of Friends or Seinfeld.
You're basing this off one photo from a crummy EW photoshoot. Stop trying to run this particular ball into the endzone, maybe.
RastaMentality
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it's an EW mag photo. Either say you have an issue with the cast or something else, but don't knock the way they presented diversity.
ThirtyPlus
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Not like this....
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