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[QuixoticNeutral]

Codename STEAM is straight up one of the best turn-based Strategy games of the generation. There are much worse games that you could use as an example than that.

In my books, it's a top-three new IP from Nintendo in the last few years (next to Splatoon and W101), but it's also an example of a game that proved to be a very hard sell. The art style was hard to convey in stills (compounding the usual problem that every 3DS game looks so much worse in stills blown up on a computer than in motion on the 3DS screen) and public-domain characters, even with a unique design, didn't carry a distinctive Nintendo stamp the way the Inklings did.

I don't know why some of you seem to think Arms will be bumped to June globally just to work around Street Fighter II in the EU. This is the Arms Direct; I see no reason to believe we'll be getting another one. Half the reason why an April Direct was expected in the first place was that it provided a natural slot to make a push for Arms.

It's not unthinkable that we'll be playing a demo of it by the end of this week. I'm still calling it for May.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I thought the artstyle turned people off from Codename STEAM. Also I remember it was announced at E3 in Nintendos meeting room. People were expecting Metroid because of the description of a new game to be announced there. I know people were really let down when they saw Codename Steam.

 

[foxuzamaki]

Codenamed steam still just needed a tighter art style,or maybe it needed to be on the Wii U

 

[antibolo]

Codenamed steam still just needed a tighter art style,or maybe it needed to be on the Wii U

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[kevin1025]

Would a SNES Remix work?

...is there going to be a SNES Remix? You'd tell me if there's a SNES Remix, right?

*drools*

 

[NSESN]

I thought the artstyle turned people off from Codename STEAM. Also I remember it was announced at E3 in Nintendos meeting room.People were expecting Metroid because of the description of a new game to be announced there. I know people were really let down when they saw Codename Steam.

To be fair it's like this every Nintendo event.

Direct/Event announced
Fans hyped for new metroid
There's no new metroid
Metroid fans cry on the internet

except E3 2015 that went

Direct/Event announced
Fans hyped for new metroid
There's a new metroid
Metroid fans cry on the internet

 

[Takat]

I'm not saying it was bad, but it pretty much had the opposite story to Splatoon's when it comes to it's success.

At this point ARMS could go either way, and with it's not-great brand name they've already got an uphill battle in getting the word out about it. Ever since it's reveal people have been iffy on the name, and marketing "ARMS" as the next big series is going to be a nightmare.

The name is great. It's call to Arms. I don't understand whats wrong with it. Short and sweet.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Codename STEAM is great. Even if they abandon the IP, I hope they keep the template for some sort of strategy game.

I get the dislike for the game on GAF though. This is a pretty casual forum with a low tolerance for anything challenging.

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[VLQ]

I thought the artstyle turned people off from Codename STEAM. Also I remember it was announced at E3 in Nintendos meeting room. People were expecting Metroid because of the description of a new game to be announced there. I know people were really let down when they saw Codename Steam.

people were expecting majors'a mask 3d for some reason

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I love the name ARMS.
Sometimes less is more, especially when it has double meaning.

 

[wild wild rice]

Just for the record: Codename STEAM rules. It's a shame we're getting annual Fire Emblem games when IS is capable of much more.

 

[Piichan]

I'm hoping for a Switch version announcement of Daigyakuten Saiban 2 in the Japanese Direct. I wanna see those great character models in HD!

 

[Professor Lexicovermis]

Finally! I've been waiting on more ARMS details! Hoping for at least 2 more characters.

 

[duckroll]

Codename STEAM is great. Even if they abandon the IP, I hope they keep the template for some sort of strategy game.

I get the dislike for the game on GAF though. This is a pretty casual forum with a low tolerance for anything challenging.

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I'm not sure if there's really much dislike for the game on GAF so much as apathy. And that's consistent with how the market at large reacted to the game. There was no outrage, no dismissal, just the whimper of a soft fart.

 

[QuixoticNeutral]

The name is great. It's call to Arms. I don't understand whats wrong with it. Short and sweet.

It fits the game just fine, and states the concept elegantly, but it's not exactly "searchable"—and these days that could have an effect on brand awareness or plain old ease of discussion.

Arms won't be the top search result for "arms" unless you pile on some other distinguishing search terms (Nintendo, Switch, game). That's not a problem for virtually any other first-party Nintendo IP I can think of.

I'm not sure if there's really much dislike for the game on GAF so much as apathy. And that's consistent with how the market at large reacted to the game. There was no outrage, no dismissal, just the whimper of a soft fart.

The OT wasn't very active at all, from what I remember. Those who were serious enough about IntSys strategy games to actually play it loved it, by and large, but most people wrote it off from the first screenshots or the demo, if they made it that far. Awareness of the game was also so poor that people kept referring to it as "Project STEAM" for ages from an old trademark filing long before the game was even revealed. And then you had the schmucks who dumped on it without playing it because they disapproved of certain celebrities in the voice cast. Just a criminally underplayed and under-recognized game all around.

 

[Cerium]

Codename STEAM with like, I dunno, maybe the Megaman license? might have done well.

 

[Hattori]

any chance Ever Oasis gets a Switch port?

 

[PadWarrior]

Even being a port, Mario Kart could possibly outshine ARMS.

Mario kart outshines just about everything. Shouldn't have a problem outshining arms.

 

[Regiruler]

Codename STEAM with like, I dunno, maybe the Megaman license? might have done well.

The look and feel, as well as the music, is the best part of STEAM. I don't think it would have been as good if it was the adoption of a different property.

 

[ekurisona]

 

[ckfy63a]

any chance Ever Oasis gets a Switch port?

I doubt it; from what I understand, the motivation behind games like Ever Oasis (and Pikmin 3DS, Kirby: Planet Robobot, etc.) being Nintendo 3DS-exclusive is that said games are getting mileage off existing engines (Zelda 3D remakes, presumably Yoshi's New Island(?), and Triple Deluxe, respectively). Porting Ever Oasis to NS would sort of defeat the purpose of the convenience of using the old engines/assets.

 

[Tavernacle12]

STEAM should have been presented as:

New Nintendo Game: Tom Sawyer, Queequeg, and Lady Zorro fight the dark lord Cthulhu in the land of Oz. We're serious, this is a real thing that's happening you guys holy crap.

Loved the game but the long turns and dull beginning do hamper it. It doesn't get good til you have a full squad.

 

[TDLink]

I hope. I feel like this game is in limbo for a western release.

 

[tonyh24613]

~35 mins based on NicoNico. Note that this length is pretty accurate for MH and AC direct last year.

 

[TDLink]

~35 mins based on NicoNico. Note that this length is pretty accurate for MH and AC direct last year.

Pretty long to only be about 2 games.

 

[Irishonion]

Bah, going to need to buy more joy-cons for Arms.

 

[Neoxon]

Bah, going to need to buy more joy-cons for Arms.

ARMS can be played without motion controls, so you could just buy a Pro Controller.

 

[AniHawk]

~35 mins based on NicoNico. Note that this length is pretty accurate for MH and AC direct last year.

0:01-10:00 - reintroduction to arms, includes more in-depth trailer with the celebrities from the original reveal trailer and what led them to their conflict.
10:00-15:00 - story mode outlined.
15:00-20:00 - online mode explained.
20:00-30:00 - explanation about how splatoon 2 is not just a port
30:00-33:00 - rundown of returning features from splatoon 1, including all maps, modes, and weapons
33:00-35:00 - mother 3 revealed, metroid dread revealed, donkey kong strikes again revealed, kirby's dreamland 4 revealed, pokemon stars revealed, bayonetta 3 revealed, beyond good & evil 2 revealed, new super mario odyssey trailer, zelda expansion pass details, jackbox party pack 3 trailer

 

[mStudios]

0:01-10:00 - reintroduction to arms, includes more in-depth trailer with the celebrities from the original reveal trailer and what led them to their conflict.
10:00-15:00 - story mode outlined.
15:00-20:00 - online mode explained.
20:00-30:00 - explanation about how splatoon 2 is not just a port
30:00-33:00 - rundown of returning features from splatoon 1, including all maps, modes, and weapons
33:00-35:00 - mother 3 revealed, metroid dread revealed, donkey kong strikes again revealed, kirby's dreamland 4 revealed, pokemon stars revealed, bayonetta 3 revealed, beyond good & evil 2 revealed, new super mario odyssey trailer, zelda expansion pass details, jackbox party pack 3 trailer

 

[Dark Cloud]

~35 mins based on NicoNico. Note that this length is pretty accurate for MH and AC direct last year.

I thought we never go by Niconico?

 

[Regiruler]

0:01-10:00 - reintroduction to arms, includes more in-depth trailer with the celebrities from the original reveal trailer and what led them to their conflict.
10:00-15:00 - story mode outlined.
15:00-20:00 - online mode explained.
20:00-30:00 - explanation about how splatoon 2 is not just a port
30:00-33:00 - rundown of returning features from splatoon 1, including all maps, modes, and weapons
33:00-35:00 - mother 3 revealed, metroid dread revealed, donkey kong strikes again revealed, kirby's dreamland 4 revealed, pokemon stars revealed, bayonetta 3 revealed, beyond good & evil 2 revealed, new super mario odyssey trailer, zelda expansion pass details, jackbox party pack 3 trailer

Where's Jet Set Radio 3

 

[random25]

~35 mins based on NicoNico. Note that this length is pretty accurate for MH and AC direct last year.

Pretty lengthy.

 

[StreetsAhead]

0:01-10:00 - reintroduction to arms, includes more in-depth trailer with the celebrities from the original reveal trailer and what led them to their conflict.
10:00-15:00 - story mode outlined.
15:00-20:00 - online mode explained.
20:00-30:00 - explanation about how splatoon 2 is not just a port
30:00-33:00 - rundown of returning features from splatoon 1, including all maps, modes, and weapons
33:00-35:00 - mother 3 revealed, metroid dread revealed, donkey kong strikes again revealed, kirby's dreamland 4 revealed, pokemon stars revealed, bayonetta 3 revealed, beyond good & evil 2 revealed, new super mario odyssey trailer, zelda expansion pass details, jackbox party pack 3 trailer

You joke but this is basically how the famous (?) January 23rd Direct went in 2013 and that was the first post-Wii U Direct, iirc.

 

[SunDimension24]

Where's Jet Set Radio 3

It gets​ a special Nintendo direct the next day. To much greatness to fit into this direct.

 

[ffdgh]

0:01-10:00 - reintroduction to arms, includes more in-depth trailer with the celebrities from the original reveal trailer and what led them to their conflict.
10:00-15:00 - story mode outlined.
15:00-20:00 - online mode explained.
20:00-30:00 - explanation about how splatoon 2 is not just a port
30:00-33:00 - rundown of returning features from splatoon 1, including all maps, modes, and weapons
33:00-35:00 - mother 3 revealed, metroid dread revealed, donkey kong strikes again revealed, kirby's dreamland 4 revealed, pokemon stars revealed, bayonetta 3 revealed, beyond good & evil 2 revealed, new super mario odyssey trailer, zelda expansion pass details, jackbox party pack 3 trailer

No F-zero? This list is a sham!

 

[Why would you do that?]

You joke but this is basically how the famous (?) January 23rd Direct went in 2013 and that was the first post-Wii U Direct, iirc.

That's also how E3 2010 (?) was when Nintendo revealed the 3DS. It was a massive video game announcement dump in the conference that was followed by a massive video game announcement dump on Nintendo's web site.

 

[jj984jj]

I hope NoA has Etrian Odyssey V among the third party announcements.

I wonder if the Japanese direct will have Dragon Quest with the release date being announced today.

 

[Starphoenix]

Please announce the Mana Collection for the West.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Where's Jet Set Radio 3

I'm still mad a Wii U JSR never happened. Tag editing on the Gamepad with graffiti invasion through Miiverse would have been amazing.

 

[SalvaPot]

You joke but this is basically how the famous (?) January 23rd Direct went in 2013 and that was the first post-Wii U Direct, iirc.

I remember that direct.

Fondly.

It has yet to be surpassed.

 

[Mysterious]

That game was poorly marketed as opposed to ARMS.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe will outsell Splatoon 2. It'll probably outsell Breath of the Wild.

 

[Enforced]

0:01-10:00 - reintroduction to arms, includes more in-depth trailer with the celebrities from the original reveal trailer and what led them to their conflict.
10:00-15:00 - story mode outlined.
15:00-20:00 - online mode explained.
20:00-30:00 - explanation about how splatoon 2 is not just a port
30:00-33:00 - rundown of returning features from splatoon 1, including all maps, modes, and weapons
33:00-35:00 - mother 3 revealed, metroid dread revealed, donkey kong strikes again revealed, kirby's dreamland 4 revealed, pokemon stars revealed, bayonetta 3 revealed, beyond good & evil 2 revealed, new super mario odyssey trailer, zelda expansion pass details, jackbox party pack 3 trailer

Where's Kirby air ride 2? Boo this man!

 

[shingi70]

You guys think we will one day get a sequel to Tokyo Mirage Sessions #fe.

 

[Cerium]

You guys think we will one day get a sequel to Tokyo Mirage Sessions #fe.

I'd settle for a port.

 

[DecoReturns]

You guys think we will one day get a sequel to Tokyo Mirage Sessions #fe.

I think Bayo 3 has a 10 times better chance of happening.

I would love to be wrong tho, TMS was a pretty damn good RPG

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

0:01-10:00 - reintroduction to arms, includes more in-depth trailer with the celebrities from the original reveal trailer and what led them to their conflict.
10:00-15:00 - story mode outlined.
15:00-20:00 - online mode explained.
20:00-30:00 - explanation about how splatoon 2 is not just a port
30:00-33:00 - rundown of returning features from splatoon 1, including all maps, modes, and weapons
33:00-35:00 - mother 3 revealed, metroid dread revealed, donkey kong strikes again revealed, kirby's dreamland 4 revealed, pokemon stars revealed, bayonetta 3 revealed, beyond good & evil 2 revealed, new super mario odyssey trailer, zelda expansion pass details, jackbox party pack 3 trailer

Look, Junior, not much of this has any chance of happening.

 

[foxuzamaki]

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Dont know what was wrong with anything I said

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Boyyyy I wish!

 

[watershed]

I wonder if they're going to talk about the Zelda dlc at all. I'd like more details and the timing would be decent in the sense that most people are wrapping up BOTW now.

 

[jonno394]

My prediction that switch dragon quest is held back for this Direct is still on!