toythatkills
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Corbyn will get destroyed, then he'll resign, then he'll run for the leadership again and win.
Theresa May Statement: June 8th General Election requested
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Corbyn will get destroyed, then he'll resign, then he'll run for the leadership again and win.
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How? He still has the support of the membership. The only way Corbyn is going is if he chooses to step down, which he won't do when the rest of the party is blocking him from having a successor candidate. I don't think Corbyn will resign after his loss.
campaign and vote for Labour
Scousefury
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Power grab plain and simple. Labour need to vote this down tomorrow. Its fucking suicide to go for this.
Well May will be as powerless in the negotiations with EU as before
It's not a case of the opposition being incompetent so much as a massive hatchet job in the media on the basis that the Labour party have somehow managed to choose a leader who stands for actual Labour values rather than being a Thatcherite. A lot of people who are anti-Corbyn would actually be very much in favour of a lot of his policies - policies which you'd never have had from Labour with another leader.
The Fixed Terms Parliament act is, as was endlessly pointed out to the government at the time, not worth the paper it's printed on as Parliament can't bind future Parliaments.
Hello darkness my old friend....
SlickShoes
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I'll be spending the next year or so getting some qualifications so I'm on other countries desired skills list.
With no sign of Scottish Independence i'd rather leave the UK than be consumed by the tories for the next decade of my life.
With no sign of Scottish Independence i'd rather leave the UK than be consumed by the tories for the next decade of my life.
Nah they will still finish in a distant second especially in seat count. LD's are not going to crack 100 seats.
Jezbollah
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LMFAO wow.
Anyway, for those who might not understand, basically the following just happened:
Theresa May just called for a POTENTIAL General Election on the 8th of June.
HOWEVER
She cannot call this - it is not in her power - the Fixed Term Parliament Act needs to be superseded by an act for this Election, which she has called for a vote on tomorrow.
The pessimist in me says he'll just stay on and his supporters will shout 'MSM' and 'Neoliberal'
Look at who in your constituency is most likely to beat Tories or UKIP and then vote them wether it's Labour, Lib dems or Greens
She challenges the opposition parties to accept an early election.
Then let teh people decide.
And that election will be allow about leadership, she says.
May says it is with reluctance that she called an election.
But it is with determination that she will fight it.
Let us remove the risk of uncertainty and instability, she says.
She says she will give the country the strong leadership it needs.
But... she has virtually no opposition.
What the hell is going on?
RedSparrows
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Feel that change guys. Feel it. Fight that establishment. Nothing like a Tory party with likely increases majority for changing the status quo.
/sob
/sob
Aaron Strife
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Be that as it may, he's a useless politician. He may have a lot of good views, but he's hopelessly incompetent. And I say that as someone who voted for him.
SomethingInTheSea
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Could be that she thinks a stronger Labour party would actually help her at the moment as they're currently so weak that its her own hard-line back benchers that are the problem, and an actually credible opposition (even with reduced numbers) might help bring them back into line.
HandsomeCharles
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Or SNP
Audioboxer
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Hey Theresa I thought now is not the time?
Oh wait, that's Scotland's line.
This is how we vote Tories and get Tories for the foreseeable future. At least she'll be able to say she's actually been elected now.
Oh wait, that's Scotland's line.
This is how we vote Tories and get Tories for the foreseeable future. At least she'll be able to say she's actually been elected now.
The tories aren't going to win that many seats.They may crack 400, but that is it.
polyh3dron
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Maybe it's that she wants nothing to do with this Brexit shitshow?
Didn't the Tories make significant gains from the Lib Dem collapse at the last election? Are they really going to be able to challenge Labour enough to counteract the very real potential of losing quite a few seats back to the Lib Dems, particularly in remain constituencies? I guess I'm probably completely misjudging it!
autumnleaf
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I'm a Labour member and voted for him to be leader. Would never do so again, he has been beyond useless.
If an opposition party ever wants to save any sort of face whatsoever, they absolutely cannot say no to a general election when offered.
Well yeah if you're Scottish it's a no brainer
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This isn't really true, though. There's close to no difference between what Corbyn is proposing and what Ed Miliband proposed, but Ed still did (somewhat) better than Corbyn.
At least she'll have a real mandate. Right now May's position is severely undermined due to the infighting. An election win won't change the UK's position in the negotiations but at least she'll have the mandate. And nobody can say, like the LibDems or Labour (lol), they didn't have the chance to change something.
This is like a poisened apple for the opposition. They have to take it.
GrizzleBoy
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The in fighting started the moment the leader of labour was who the voters wanted and not who labour wanted.
They've been a bunch of whining pricks from day one.
Corbyn isn't the best, but that's all the more reason for them to show solidarity instead of the fucking shit stirring bollocks that's been going on for how long now.
toddhunter
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Yes. The balance is that calling an election massively pisses everyone off, because nobody wants to have to deal with an election at the best of times.
This isn't the best of times.
I'm sure people will direct this anger at the people not currently in power because why the fuck not at this point.
Don'tBeWeird
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A game of ~120 does seem huge, but my methodology was "What is a big number?" I reckon it'll be pretty accurate.
HandsomeCharles
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They should just field candidates south of the border too. I don't agree with their independence goals but I do appreciate their left-wing tendencies.
Come on Brits, a chance to undo your mistake: Vote Liberal Democrats in England and Wales, make the SNP majority in Scotland even bigger, continue to be ignored Northern Ireland.
Liberal Democrats. A vote for Labour is a vote for Brexit. That leaves the Liberal Democrats as the only English opposition party.
Liberal Democrats. A vote for Labour is a vote for Brexit. That leaves the Liberal Democrats as the only English opposition party.
Heard the same thing 7 years ago. The NHS is going nowhere.
JonnyDBrit
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I realise the worst part of this is this all policy discussions are going to be absolutely secondary to Brexit talk. Every Conservative issue swept under the rug for the sake stable negotiations.
Labour is going to be in the awkward position where they will probably want to/have to say that if in power, they'd still do Brexit, at which point they have to qualify how it would be distinct from the Conservative approach - which is going to be damned hard as it's a shitshow of inevitability. Meanwhile, the chunk of the Labour base that voted to Remain will be stuck with a party that doesn't at all represent their interests in foreign politics, but no way would they vote Conservatives.
Lib Dems may be able to pick up a bunch of defecting votes from both major parties in that regard, particularly Labour Remain, but that's most likely to weaken Labour's majority in various places if anything, while being too spread out to give them much of an actual lead in most constituencies.
Fuck. At least maybe UKIP withers further?
Labour is going to be in the awkward position where they will probably want to/have to say that if in power, they'd still do Brexit, at which point they have to qualify how it would be distinct from the Conservative approach - which is going to be damned hard as it's a shitshow of inevitability. Meanwhile, the chunk of the Labour base that voted to Remain will be stuck with a party that doesn't at all represent their interests in foreign politics, but no way would they vote Conservatives.
Lib Dems may be able to pick up a bunch of defecting votes from both major parties in that regard, particularly Labour Remain, but that's most likely to weaken Labour's majority in various places if anything, while being too spread out to give them much of an actual lead in most constituencies.
Fuck. At least maybe UKIP withers further?
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Nobody wants responsibility for Brexit eh.
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