Lifejumper
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I wonder what Yoda and Ben think about Luke potentially changing the jedi. Could create some interesting drama.
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Lifejumper
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You missed the panel where he considered Rian Johnson god and one of the all time greats? That quote is out of context. EDIT: Lmao that channel name "jar jar abrams"
Really? It just tells me that Hamill envisioned Luke's story going in one path, and the movie is instead going down another. Nothing worrying to me.
What did he mean by this?
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I love being shocked
Luke turning into a depressed isolated hermit and abject failure after the triumphant end of the OT is very shocking
Luke turning into a depressed isolated hermit and abject failure after the triumphant end of the OT is very shocking
Good point, I rescind my original opinion in favor of this more optimistic one
DiipuSurotu
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Is he complaining or it more like "at first I was against it but in the end I loved it"?
Demoncarnotaur
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Without context, I don't find this good or bad. I'm not worried, just quite intrigued.
In the past, hasn't Hammil expressed interest in playing a darker Luke? If so, his character arc is probably more complex than something as simple as a Jedi looking to give up.
JetBlackPanda
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Still if he is talking about it like that in public it must have been pretty crazy.
Please don't assasinste Luke's character for a the shock of it.
Mark also thought that Luke should swoop in during the third act of The Force Awakens to fight Kylo Ren. He expected audiences to laugh when Luke shows up in the final moments of the film with no lines.
Of course, that wasn't the case, and Mark admitted as much. He didn't anticipate Williams' score, didn't understand how Luke's unseen presence would drive the entire film. He also called Rian Johnson one of the greatest directors of all time and appears to have reconciled whatever his gripes were. So let's maybe give Rian the benefit of the doubt.
Into the Light
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If there's gonna be a shocking twist or revelation, I hope it's on par with the whole Luke/Vader father-son reveal~~~
jufonuk
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luke kills Kylo , then takes the Vader uniform and become the new powerful ruler.
I'm sure mark hamill has spent his entire life imagining his return to Star Wars as the anime good boy goku hero and now they've purposefully written luke into a depressed shell of his former self
If I were mark, I'd hate that too! Guy IIIS luke of course he wants to be the goodboy hero and that's what he's been assuming luke has been up to for years
I actually have LESS concerns about this than R1 and TFA. I feel like they /get/ it
If I were mark, I'd hate that too! Guy IIIS luke of course he wants to be the goodboy hero and that's what he's been assuming luke has been up to for years
I actually have LESS concerns about this than R1 and TFA. I feel like they /get/ it
Killer Queen
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It's the latter
That bit is taken out of context. He said he didn't agree with the direction for Like but later warmed up to it. All that says to me is that Rian is taking Episodes 8 and 9 in a new and different direction and that he's carving his own path and going to flip expectations. Which not only is the best path for a continuation of a 40 year old series it's another reason I don't see Rey being a Skywalker and why I think Luke creating a grey Jedi order is a very plausible and likely direction.
I also feel like this series' twist has something to do with the Jedi order ending.
I think Luke committing suicide would be rather fitting, specifically because Vader 2.0 was born under his tutelage.
It could make for one hell of a tear-jerking (and memorable) finale.
Dude, nuh uh. These movies are for twelve-year-old kids. There will be no ritual suicide in The Last Jedi.
Bobby Roberts
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This was already discussed in this thread like twice, wasn't it?
Although I do wonder (which was also brought up in this thread) whether his freedom in commentary on the creative direction of the series is a sign that he's not coming back to it after this.
Killer Queen
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Luke commiting suicide would be way too dark for Star Wars. It's one thing to kill off characters like the rogue one group because it was a suicide mission from the start but having a character like Luke kill himself because of his failures isn't something they're going to do.
Luke losing to Kylo or embracing the dark side is more likely though.
Luke losing to Kylo or embracing the dark side is more likely though.
Was it? My bad, hadn't checked out the thread in days~~~
Luke is deader than dead, surely.
Nobody risks burning a bridge like that until they've already crossed it.
Bobby Roberts
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It's a long-ass thread, it's understandable. I think when it was initially posted it was just the first half of his answer, and then a follow-up post finished it and the reminder that he was on-stage jokingly referring to the director as God and praising the holy hell out of him calmed everyone down.
but yeah, I'm now strongly wondering if he and Leia both go out in this episode.
Killer Queen
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I really wish that wasn't posted because now everyone is taking it out of context.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
This would completely defeat the ending of Episode VI and the entire message of the OT for me. I really hope they don't do this.
I am also worried he might die, but I don't see any narrative sins with that outcome. I just don't want it to happen.
Bobby Roberts
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It'll get back in context shortly. Like it did the last time
I found that to be an odd complaint from him though, do actors usually have influence/direct input over scripts?
Mark disagreeing with the direction of the character makes me think Luke is going to abandon the ways of the Jedi or maybe even The Force or something like that. I just really hope whatever happens doesn't basically invalidate ROTJ
Harrison Ford eventually got them to kill off Han
Harrison Ford eventually got them to kill off Han
That was Kylo's helmet.
sloppyjoe_gamer
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I'm curious as to what Luke's reaction to Han being killed will be.....and now that Disney has made it official that Leia won't be in Episode IX (No CG character), I wonder how they'll handle her departure in Episode VIII?
Secret Fawful
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Hasn't he said at some point during Celebration he may be done with the series after this movie? Or at least he hinted at it pretty strongly.
DiipuSurotu
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Why would Luke dying mean he won't appear in IX?
NealMcCauley
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Maybe Luke goes into a bar for a drink and Ren confronts him. Luke says "Let me enjoy my drink in peace." Ren insults Luke, tells him he's nothing, and that he's the true heir to Anakin Skywalker's legacy. Luke force throws him against a wall, ignites his lightsaber, and says "You wanna be like my father? You have a few too many limbs."
Bobby Roberts
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It depends on the actor and the director, really. I'd imagine he still had his input listened to as the filming went on, but the actor getting the script and going "whoa, wait a sec" isn't particularly out of bounds. However, you usually don't hear about that until after-the-fact, I don't think.
Killer Queen
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Well, it seems like Luke is of the opinion that the Jedi were wrong and that their way doesn't work. I'm not saying Luke becomes a sith, but maybe he walks the line of both sides of the force because he realizes that's where true balance comes from and that straying too far from one can create the other, or simply that human emotion should not be ignored but you also shouldn't give into it, another form of balance.
Since Rey and Finn are apparently going to be separate for most of the movie I'm guessing that means Luke is also going to be separate from Leia most/all of the movie too. Which makes me seriously think this moment might be the last time the original three characters share the screen together. Which kind of depresses me
Bobby Roberts
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Han's dying made this almost 100% as it was, but yeah, I don't think Leia & Luke are gonna share screentime in this movie. Maybe they will though, at the very end, but that really depends on if/when Rey & Luke (and Chewie & Artoo?) get off that island and rejoin the crew.
DiipuSurotu
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Nah if I recall correctly Kasdan wanted Han to die too
Roufianos
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Does anyone have an idea of how the writing of the sequel trilogy works? Is each director free to make it up as they go along or have Lucasarts laid out the plot for all 3 films?
Kibbles
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He (and Daisy) looked pretty bummed that whole interview which I thought was weird.
No he was right, TFA ending was trash and that stare at each other was laughable. No amount of scoring makes it a better scene.
I should have revised what I said and meant more that we're probably never going to see Luke interact with either Han/Leia again
Killer Queen
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Kasdan and JJ worked on Episode 7 together
Rian Johnson wrote and directed episode 8
Rian Johnson wrote all the story of 9, Colin Trevarrow is directing 9 and writing the screenplay of Rian's story
It's different for each film. JJ and Kasdan came up with TFA but left behind some suggestions for where to go from there without a hard outline. Rian took it wherever he wanted, and he's doing a treatment for IX but Trevorrow will be able to do whatever he wants ultimately as well.
The LSG will keep it all consistent.
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