jstevenson
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it honestly might be my favorite scene in the movie
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!
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it honestly might be my favorite scene in the movie
MugiwaraCole
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I want you to explain to me how that changes what I said in any way. He's the same Groot. His memories being gone doesn't change that. He's not like a child of Groot or a clone or whatever. He's Groot.
Because the Groot that died to protect his friends is now gone, he no longer exists, this new Groot is a new version of him but he doesn't remember anything from his past life. It's essentially a new person.
I was afraid they weren't going to be able to capture the magic of the first, once
Mr. Blue Sky started playing I was already convinced
Alright, I just got out. I thought it was OK.
First things first: beginning was great, ending was (mostly) great. Middle was uggghhh. Like, I felt like this movie was half exposition. Russel just going on and on and on and on and on, that essentially just felt like a set-up for why we have a big setpiece battle at the end of the film.
I thought the intimate character moments were good, and there were some clever scenes (Groot, Yondu, and Rocket captured, for example was fun), but overall king of boring at times.
The humor was exceedingly hit or miss with me (and the rest of the audience). It felt like it was trying way too hard to be funny.
I think this could've done to be a much more intimate, lower stakes picture, but due to the nature of the Marvel universe and expectations of the previous film to be funny and action-heavy, it had to be a bunch of things that pulled at eachother such that not one aspect ever really worked exceedingly well.
Not great, but not terrible. I give it a 3/5.
First things first: beginning was great, ending was (mostly) great. Middle was uggghhh. Like, I felt like this movie was half exposition. Russel just going on and on and on and on and on, that essentially just felt like a set-up for why we have a big setpiece battle at the end of the film.
I thought the intimate character moments were good, and there were some clever scenes (Groot, Yondu, and Rocket captured, for example was fun), but overall king of boring at times.
The humor was exceedingly hit or miss with me (and the rest of the audience). It felt like it was trying way too hard to be funny.
I think this could've done to be a much more intimate, lower stakes picture, but due to the nature of the Marvel universe and expectations of the previous film to be funny and action-heavy, it had to be a bunch of things that pulled at eachother such that not one aspect ever really worked exceedingly well.
Not great, but not terrible. I give it a 3/5.
I loved the visual storytelling from those creepy statues.
I can't believe they did that giant Pac Man.
I was a bit bothered by Ego saying he was a Celestial. But it would make sense that he would use such a term to describe himself.
It was cool seeing Peter have cosmic awareness, Chris Pratt did a fantastic job.
I can't believe they did that giant Pac Man.
I was a bit bothered by Ego saying he was a Celestial. But it would make sense that he would use such a term to describe himself.
It was cool seeing Peter have cosmic awareness, Chris Pratt did a fantastic job.
MugiwaraCole
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I don't see why that makes him not the same Groot. I guess if you lose your memories, you're technically still you, but not because you've lost the memories you've built up that influence your character.
But even if you form a new persona with your new memories, you're still the same being? Ugh. I'm explaining it poorly.
I mean, if you clone someone then you're literally the same being but what makes you you is different. Groot's "soul" or whatever you want to call it died in Guardians 1 and now he was re-born as a new being in Guardians 2.
It's like chopping down a tree but growing a new one from that tree's seed.
Griot lost all of his memories, his personality, and his body. He's had to grow up as a sapling, and he's noticeably dumber and more belligerent than he was as an adult.
The equivalent is not so much what happens if a human experienced amnesia. Think about it as if you died, but your family created a perfect genetic clone of you and then raised that clone to adulthood.
Now you got me thinking about the manga Ajin
Here's the link, though I suppose the percentages came from elsewhere (I went off of the same GAF post you're mentioning). It also helps that Kurt Russell aged pretty damn well.
Also, the part about Thanos changing Nebula's body parts each time she lost to Gamora was a direct reference to the Vol. 1 prequel comics.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Fair.
I mean his own power was not having every atom of his body ripped to pieces by an infinity stone so
MugiwaraCole
Member
Pretty sure he's just a guy with useless celestial DNA now.
Literal LOL, man.
The only part that really felt forced to me was Ego turning into Hasselhoff. At this point, any time a movie makes an off-hand remark about some old celebrity I now just assume they'll show up in the movie later.
The set up for that was so good, though.
It was both funny and REALLY fucked up on Ego's part.
Do people really not know how trees work? Baby Groot is a clone, not a copy. He's his own person.
No longer has access to the power battery, can still use infinity stones to a limited degree/survive harsher conditions than a normal person.
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just got back from seeing it was amazing cant wait for teen groot in volume 3
MugiwaraCole
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Can he? Wasn't that just his immortality at play?
Source? I can't see it this big of a jump.
Makes me wonder if it's the kind of product placement that a company like Microsoft okays because on the surface it says only positive things about the product, ignoring the vicious sarcasm below the surface.
Here is an article where Gunn talks about the process. Between using another younger actor and the make-up work, it sounds like much of the actual effect was done practically, while the CG aspect was used for pasting together performances and getting rid of the seams. From how Gunn tells it, it still doesn't sound like an easy, painless process to get it looking as good as it did, but it makes sense that having CG be used more to composite practical effects makes for a much more believable result than having much of the actual effect be digital.
It's cus Volume 2 takes place four months after Vol 1, which is technically in 2014, while volume 3 will take place AFTER Avengers 4.
Thanks, guys.
Mighta been,it definitely explains the space scene they called back to w/ Yondu's death. We'll have to see what happens in future films for clarification.
The big lingering plot point in this one is "GO KILL THANOS". Nebula probably the one who draws the others into the Avengers movies.
It's cus Volume 2 takes place four months after Vol 1, which is technically in 2014, while volume 3 will take place AFTER Avengers 4.
Thanks, guys.
I'm pretty sure we'll see the Guardians again in both Infinity Wars before Vol. 3 anyways.
I wonder why no one bothers to shoot Yondu when he's doing the arrow whistling.
Because they're already dead.
Actually, we already can!
Sean Gunn showed up on set for Infinity War but the poor guy seems a bit tired and stiff.
Except that presumably his power was coming from the Light in Ego's planet. So now that it's destroyed, can he still hold an Infinity Stone?
MoonsaultSlayer
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Is this really the new movie OT format? I've been avoiding this thread for what seems like weeks before release and we still don't have an OT proper...
I just want a place to channel my hype before seeing the damn thing.
I just want a place to channel my hype before seeing the damn thing.
Just saw it in IMAX 3D.
Fresh impressions:
- The first was a better movie. The pacing in Vol. 2 felt off in several places.
- The music choices in the first were better. Jesus Christ, Cat Stevens? zzzzzzz
- The post boss-fight exposition seemed way too long. I know Yondu deserved a proper send-off, but it seemed like they couldn't find a good note to end on. The first movie did it absolutely perfectly, so it really stood out.
Overall, I liked it a lot, don't get me wrong. The first movie set a high bar, so it's hard not to compare where it fell short.
Fresh impressions:
- The first was a better movie. The pacing in Vol. 2 felt off in several places.
- The music choices in the first were better. Jesus Christ, Cat Stevens? zzzzzzz
- The post boss-fight exposition seemed way too long. I know Yondu deserved a proper send-off, but it seemed like they couldn't find a good note to end on. The first movie did it absolutely perfectly, so it really stood out.
Overall, I liked it a lot, don't get me wrong. The first movie set a high bar, so it's hard not to compare where it fell short.
Booked to see it with VIP seats in VueExtreme, but got into a fight with my partner so we missed it. Fortunately the lady at the counter let us catch the later movie for free.
Anyway, the bar fell asleep, and tbh I don't blame her. I woke her up for the baby Groot bits.
It was packed full of jokes so it's like a comedy (similar to the first) but the jokes fall flat and the main plot is too serious when the characters make it out as not being a huge deal.
I didn't know when characters were meant to be sarcastic...
Tl;dr, only watch if you want to see baby Groot.
Anyway, the bar fell asleep, and tbh I don't blame her. I woke her up for the baby Groot bits.
It was packed full of jokes so it's like a comedy (similar to the first) but the jokes fall flat and the main plot is too serious when the characters make it out as not being a huge deal.
I didn't know when characters were meant to be sarcastic...
Tl;dr, only watch if you want to see baby Groot.
Zeyphersan
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It's cus Volume 2 takes place four months after Vol 1, which is technically in 2014, while volume 3 will take place AFTER Avengers 4.
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Yep. Which would mean Vol 3 likely takes place something like 6 years after Vol 2, maybe more
Obliterator
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The first 3rd and last 3rd of the movie were exceptional and better than the first film. The middle 3rd though dragged a bit for sure.
Not sure which I liked more this or the first. First film was more consistent but I think the highs of this film were a lot higher.
Overall loved it
Not sure which I liked more this or the first. First film was more consistent but I think the highs of this film were a lot higher.
Overall loved it
Obliterator
Member
I thought Ego was one of the best Villians in the whole MCU so far. Kurt Russel was great
EliteArtist
Member
This is the most fun I've had in a theater for a very long time. Everything just hit the right notes for me. Stand outs being:
The Watchers. I audibly freaked out (Hopefully not the the distraction of the other movie goers)
Drax and Mantis' moment.
Ego, Peter's mother, and the tumor. I've never felt so much emotional backstabbing.
What a good time though, glad Howard the Duck showed up again too!
The Watchers. I audibly freaked out (Hopefully not the the distraction of the other movie goers)
Drax and Mantis' moment.
Ego, Peter's mother, and the tumor. I've never felt so much emotional backstabbing.
What a good time though, glad Howard the Duck showed up again too!
ryutaro's mama
Member
Yeah, I'm kinda bummed he is dead. We was really good. You could tell Russell was just having a great time. That set must have bee so chill.
ryutaro's mama
Member
Yo, Slayven, my geek the fuck out moment was when the Watchers showed up. I cut my teeth on those "What if" comics as a kid so that shit had me legit shook.
It'd be really easy to get him back, thankfully. His death was abstract enough that they could asspull any number of explanations.