Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!
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Obliterator
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Gunn is really damn good at handling the Cosmic side. And despite some flaws in both the Guardians films one of the reasons they work so good is you can tell Gunn truly cares about these characters and wants to do them justice. It's a big part of why the Guardians movies have so much heart.
I'm really glad he's doing the 3rd film as well. I wonder if they will have him work on another Cosmic property after that or if he'll stop doing Marvel flicks for a bit to pursue something else
I kinda want Steve's happy ending to be going back in time and being revealed as "Peggy's husband." Just goes into hiding for seventy odd years - then they can bring him back later with a new actor and say he aged or some such.
Because he needs that dance damnit.
Was there some sort of cinematic flag that I missed for between the ship blowing up and Yondu coming down like Mary Poppins? Because that was one of the only parts where the movie lost me on the action.
They're in the ship, the ship blows up, and then they're floating down from the center of the explosion. I was expecting Quill to have shielded them with the light or something, but it was just them floating down from dead center of the explosion on Yondu's arrow like nothing happened. Did I miss something there?
They're in the ship, the ship blows up, and then they're floating down from the center of the explosion. I was expecting Quill to have shielded them with the light or something, but it was just them floating down from dead center of the explosion on Yondu's arrow like nothing happened. Did I miss something there?
I'm pretty sure she was the little robot head at the end.
Gordon Shumway
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Supposedly that talking robot head that was with Stallone at the end..
TheWorthyEdge
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It took some MUSCLE to keep those tears in...I would've been pouring.
Gordon Shumway
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The character's name is Mainframe..
Gordon Shumway
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And they're gonna turn towards the camera and wink. Sit down for dinner and have a plate with all sides and NO STAKES!
Logan kind of flubs the landing with its last scene IMO.
Yondu's death is up there for sure. That line about Ego being his father but not his "daddy" was fantastic.
But as far as my favorite emotional moment in MCU. I think the Steve and Bucky fight at the end of WS is still the best. I'm just a sucker for when these films cram huge emotional character moments in the midst of chaos (usually the 3rd act).
It's usually the best superhero films that pull it off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-U-x-okaXA
Cap was betting his life on Bucky remembering him. That's some shit right there. Said so much about his character, and I still feel like the moment is a tad bit overlooked.
But as far as my favorite emotional moment in MCU. I think the Steve and Bucky fight at the end of WS is still the best. I'm just a sucker for when these films cram huge emotional character moments in the midst of chaos (usually the 3rd act).
It's usually the best superhero films that pull it off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-U-x-okaXA
Cap was betting his life on Bucky remembering him. That's some shit right there. Said so much about his character, and I still feel like the moment is a tad bit overlooked.
"I'm with you to the end of the line."
Ludicrous that people can think Steve is villainous in Civil War.
so good ;__;
Howard Stark needs to return and tell Tony he's a moron.
Shit like that is why I'm team cap till the end of the line. Cap is done so well in the MCU.
Best version ever. Evans is Cap.
They're friends more in terms of the mutual respect they have built over the years of working together, but the film never hinged on them being friends but rather on the contentious working relationship they have. They've never seen eye to eye, but they've always worked towards a common goal. In this case, they are pulling the team in two directions because they think it's in everyone's best interest. And that's just the philosophical differences of opinion on how they think things will play out in the future. You get to their very different ideological differences and their personal baggage (Tony's resentment of his father's admiration of Steve, Steve's buddy Bucky being an assassin) and you have a complex scenario that only gets worse once Zemo drops the bombshell that is Steve's Bucky (his bestfriend, his remaining link to his past, his one weakness) is the one responsible for the murder of Stark's parents, the cause of so much of the trauma in his adult life. And to top it off, the guy who he resents, who he can't see eye to eye with most of the time, Mr. Perfect, selfishly kept the truth from Tony to protect Bucky.
Still a damn good twist with a great build-up over so many movies and a damn satisfying pay off. I don't know how you can write it off because you don't buy that they are good friends. They don't even need to be good friends for that betrayl to all work, but it just makes it work even better that there is supposed to be trust, respect, and even friendship in the mix.
Jest Chillin
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Just got back from seeing it with my son. He loved it.
My personal thoughts:
Too heavy on the Gags and Jokes. The gags went a little too far into the goofy spectrum for what I wanted and the amount of jokes was overboard. Marvel films get a lot of crap for "quips" but this is the first film that I think actually did go too heavy on them.
Noticed that early in the film they use a score that has cues from the Avengers theme. Thought that was a bit odd. Not exactly sure what the purpose was if it wasn't intentionally making fun of itself and Marvel films in general.
Now the second half of the film is much better than the first half. We got some solid relationship advancement and genuine character moments. Unfortunately since most of the early film that sets this up doesn't get much time percolate due to gags and jokes, the payoffs don't hit as well as they could have (with exception to Yondu and Rocket's relating which works with zero early setup due to the nature of their personalities).
I really liked the angle they took for the plot of this. I didn't look too far into production stuff, so I didn't know they would make Ego the primary antagonist, so the trailers staying away from that worked well for me.
Generally, the core of the film was spot on. Just some minor missteps in terms of percentage of jokes vs character moments and a bit too many slapstick gags. Nothing egregious enough to make me not enjoy the movie, and could honestly probably be addressed in a re-edit (not saying they would or should, just stating that a different edit could probably address my few strikes). Still a good movie and I won't think twice about seeing GOTG3 in theaters.
My personal thoughts:
Too heavy on the Gags and Jokes. The gags went a little too far into the goofy spectrum for what I wanted and the amount of jokes was overboard. Marvel films get a lot of crap for "quips" but this is the first film that I think actually did go too heavy on them.
Noticed that early in the film they use a score that has cues from the Avengers theme. Thought that was a bit odd. Not exactly sure what the purpose was if it wasn't intentionally making fun of itself and Marvel films in general.
Now the second half of the film is much better than the first half. We got some solid relationship advancement and genuine character moments. Unfortunately since most of the early film that sets this up doesn't get much time percolate due to gags and jokes, the payoffs don't hit as well as they could have (with exception to Yondu and Rocket's relating which works with zero early setup due to the nature of their personalities).
I really liked the angle they took for the plot of this. I didn't look too far into production stuff, so I didn't know they would make Ego the primary antagonist, so the trailers staying away from that worked well for me.
Generally, the core of the film was spot on. Just some minor missteps in terms of percentage of jokes vs character moments and a bit too many slapstick gags. Nothing egregious enough to make me not enjoy the movie, and could honestly probably be addressed in a re-edit (not saying they would or should, just stating that a different edit could probably address my few strikes). Still a good movie and I won't think twice about seeing GOTG3 in theaters.
broncobuster
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I think the problem is Bucky. Be it the actor or writing. Now, Falcon is charismatic enough that I can buy Cap risking it all for. To Bucky's credit, at least he questions if he's worth it.
For all deaths people expect from Infinity War, I can't see any of Guardians biting it. But we'll see. As far as personal connections go, Gamora and Drax are the characters in the MCU with personal connections to Thanos. It'll be interesting to see how their characters develop from it and into GotG3.
I don't think Gunn would sign up for GOTG if they killed his characters off. I can see him using the aftermath of IW to fuel his plot
All those things are said in dialogue. None of it is subtext.
It's the Russo's doing Infinity though, both Winter Soldier and Civil War were quite low on the quipping and the general humor compared to the other movies.
Fast Forward
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The movie was okay. IDK. It might grow on me over time, but yeah, it was okay. First two acts were very good, but I thought the third act was kind of lacking, save for Yondu's death.
Opening credits scene was AWESOME. A worthy successor to the first.
Rocket is still my favorite character.
Love the Zune bit. Discman would have also worked.
In regards to the quips, like there being too many, they don't bother me. Granted, I never read the comics, but personally, I see the Guardians of the Galaxy kind of like Spider-Man: a crew of smart asses. That's what they do.
Opening credits scene was AWESOME. A worthy successor to the first.
Rocket is still my favorite character.
Love the Zune bit. Discman would have also worked.
In regards to the quips, like there being too many, they don't bother me. Granted, I never read the comics, but personally, I see the Guardians of the Galaxy kind of like Spider-Man: a crew of smart asses. That's what they do.
Now I wanna see that
roflwaffles
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The Yondu scene had me more choked up than I have ever been in a MCU movie.
People were straight up sobbing in the theater during Yondu's death sequence.
The emotional heights this film reached is insane, especially for a comic book film.
I struggled so much to keep myself from crying, but I utterly failed when Yondu's eyes glazed over.
This film was above and beyond the first film, for me at least; it felt as close to perfection as a superhero film can get.
Alao, every single Drax and Mantis scene was brilliant, lmao
The emotional heights this film reached is insane, especially for a comic book film.
I struggled so much to keep myself from crying, but I utterly failed when Yondu's eyes glazed over.
This film was above and beyond the first film, for me at least; it felt as close to perfection as a superhero film can get.
Alao, every single Drax and Mantis scene was brilliant, lmao
Man, Rocket looked SO good in Volume 2. Not really sure what they did but he looked way better than in Volume 1.
Gordon Shumway
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I'm guessing they ran him through whatever tech they used for that Jungle Book movie..that entire thing was wild.
Fast Forward
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My favorite is easily Zemo from Civil War, BC he was just a normal guy. Just a normal guy looking for revenge for his family. That's it. In comparison to other MCU villains, and hell, just super villains in general, that was quite refreshing.
More money for the effects.
Gamora looked far better then in the first one, where she looked super akward from time to time
He was part of a Sokovian death squad. Dude was at Hawkeye level before AOU.
Rocket is far and away my favourite character in the MCU. His backstory informing a personality defined by brazen cynicism and existential insecurity is eminently relatable and I find his desire to douse his latent sensitivities in layers of postured sarcasm to be incredibly endearing.
Fast Forward
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I know, but when I say "he was just a guy," I mean a normal human being. No super powers.
Not to mention, Zemo's character had a lot of depth, was three dimensional, and not just villain looking to "take over the world." Plus, his plan was simple, but quite cleaver. That speech he gives at the end Civil War to Black Panther is so damn great. Watched it so many times.
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A totally awesome movie. I really enjoyed it.
Hey look, it's a Trash Panda!
Fast Forward
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That was my thought watching it as well. Not even the biggest fan of Vol. 2, but Rocket was easily the standout character in it, and Bradley Cooper definitely earned his paycheck, and then some, as his performance was quite animated, funny, and touching.
In the first trailer, I thought he looked really weird and that had me thinking he'd end up looking bad compared to Vol. 1. He looked great in the film though.
Is that better?
Glass Rebel
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I know this has been mentioned before but...
Vol. 1
Peter: "What's that for?"
Rocket: "That's when things get really hardcore. Or if you wanna blow up a moon."
Vol. 2
Vol. 1
Peter: "What's that for?"
Rocket: "That's when things get really hardcore. Or if you wanna blow up a moon."
Vol. 2
That scene was super emotional for me. The protracted funeral stuff was still sad but felt more forced with sweeping music etc. Father and Son though... right in the feels..
Fast Forward
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I will say this. I hope it's still Teenage Groot in Vol 3. That mid credits scene was pretty damn good.