Primethius
Banned
Ah gotcha. That makes me feel better.
And you're all good. Motivates me to catch up quicker.
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!
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Ah gotcha. That makes me feel better.
And you're all good. Motivates me to catch up quicker.
Trojita
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Disappointing was the word I was looking for.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
My daughter pointed out The Grandmaster (Jeff Goldblum) while the credits were rolling. I thought he was gonna end up in a stinger..
He said exactly that.
Because she was a distracting him from himself.
Why did Kurt age just the few decades that it took to find Peter? Or do you think looking more aged and fatherly was part of the ploy to lure Peter in?
Yep. She was distracting him from his purpose and so since she was a lower life form he "did what had to be done". That was just how he thought of mortal life.
Yep. She was distracting him from his purpose and so since she was a lower life form he "did what had to be done". That was just how he thought of mortal life.
Man, read up on the girl who played Mantis just now. She's lived one hell of a depressing life, it's ironic she's playing her. Basically all of her family died, suicide, institutionalized, cancer, etc.
For the flick, quite enjoyed it. Probably as much as Strange. It was a slog in the middle for sure and I felt like for a space flick, them spending 2/3 of the film of Ego's plant was pretty weak. Alongside hitting most of the same notes the first did, both character development wise and more. It was a bit too much of a retrend there.
Bring on Thor!
For the flick, quite enjoyed it. Probably as much as Strange. It was a slog in the middle for sure and I felt like for a space flick, them spending 2/3 of the film of Ego's plant was pretty weak. Alongside hitting most of the same notes the first did, both character development wise and more. It was a bit too much of a retrend there.
Bring on Thor!
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Saw the first showing today wasn't a big bunch of people thankfully, pretty sure I avoided that by going to the 11AM showing with kids in school and most stiffs at work minus those who worked later, liked it about as much as the first not sure where I'd put it but it's neck and neck with TWS for best Marvel movie sequel, maybe higher since the first Guardians was way better than the first Captain America.
The Mary Poppins joke got the biggest reaction from the audience I was in which probably makes sense since a lot of the people there looked to be in their 40s and up.
Family killing themselves on her fucking birthday too that's just... Even darker. Reminded me of Phoebe Cates' character in Gremlins.
The Mary Poppins joke got the biggest reaction from the audience I was in which probably makes sense since a lot of the people there looked to be in their 40s and up.
Family killing themselves on her fucking birthday too that's just... Even darker. Reminded me of Phoebe Cates' character in Gremlins.
Oh yeah, not saying it wasn't fairly predictable even with the gold-plated diversion villains, but it's always nice when they put some more layering in than
Just read up on her, her life has some awfully big parallel's with Mantis'
Obliterator
Member
The only main things I'd like to see from Guardians 3 that I felt were a tad bit of mistakes in this film, is to a) maybe tune down the jokes just a bit. I thought the film was really funny but maybe leaned just a bit too far into gags to the point that they started to feel a bit predictable by the end, and b) tone down the 80s nostalgia just a tad. Don't get me wrong I love the humor and all the 80s references but I think after 2 films going so heavily in on the same sort of vibe for the 3rd film might wear a bit thin on audiences.
I don't want them to massively change the franchise or anything and still want it to be funny with some 80s throwbacks, but I hope they push a bit more new tones into the 3rd film.
I don't want them to massively change the franchise or anything and still want it to be funny with some 80s throwbacks, but I hope they push a bit more new tones into the 3rd film.
Oh God, that Pac-Man had me in stitches.
Oh wow, I thought she was someone else. Someone familiar but I can't put my finger on it.
Oh wow, I thought she was someone else. Someone familiar but I can't put my finger on it.
It's going to be Star-lord post-Infinity War Avengers team up trying to catch up with all the Earth pop culture he missed
pls give him frosted tips as he deep dives into the '90s
Zeyphersan
Banned
Seems a fair assumption, honestly
So I just got back from seeing it. I should jolt down my impression of it before I start forgetting all the little details.
I like parts of this better than the first movie. Like how the team is a lot more cohesive now, I assume only several months have passed since the end of the first one. There are a hell of a lot more jokes, though they're in much more small quick doses which help not to make me feel like it was dragging on too much. There were a lot of callback to the first movie, like Peter mix tape, his history with the Ravagers, Rocket and Drax background as well.
I absolutely love baby Groot, I thought normal Groot in the original movie was fantastic but man Marvel outdid themselves with baby Groot. A scene stealer in all the scenes he's in.
Mantis is absolutely adorable, she's basically Drax before Drax learned a few things from Peter and Groot about sarcasm and humor (which is hilarious how he's still pretty bad at it and he was play jokes on Mantis). I hope they give her more action oriented scenes in future instalment.
I'm glad Nebula came back and you get to see that she's not inherently the "bad daughter" after all, that she just wanted a normal sister in Gamora. I'm happy that their relationship were expanded upon. GODDAMN, Kurt Russell can sell the shit out of being the "good dad" role. He and Chris Pratt has great chemistry together to the point that while I saw the whole "he's secretly evil" thing coming from a mile away, I was still in disbelief when it actually happened because for moments there he really did seem like he care about Peter. The whole scene of them playing catch is so heartwarming. Same with Gamora and Nebula confessing their feelings right after trying to kill one another.
But honestly one of the most underrated emotional scenes of this movie is when Drax and Mantis were talking, and she read his emotions. At that point I teared up because it made you remember that under all that hunking mass of muscles, he's still a guy that lost his family tragically and what he said was actually pretty damn true. "If you're ugly and still loved, you know that love is definitely real." I feel like Drax is pretty damn wise, but because of his terrible social skill, sometimes that doesnt translate well. But when it does, it's pretty damn good.
I'm actually surprise they managed to outdone the emotional department of this movie comparing to the original. So many moments litter throughout the entire movie and all of them felt so authentic. Of course, when Yondu sacrificed himself to save Peter, damn that hit me like an arrow to the chest.
I think it did to Peter as well, realizing that the father figure he was looking for years, has been there the entire damn time. It's so cliche, I know. But they pulled it off so well. Michael Rooker played Yondu so well, from his rough mannerism that can transition to caring in a second. To him laughing amidst chaos to deadly serious. I'm really going to miss him. I hope he come back in some way. I legit cried during that final scene. Peter has to watch his mother died, watch as his father confessed to killing his mom, watch his father die in his hand and then finally watch as the father he always has but never saw sacrificed himself to save his life. Damn, Marvel. Why are you cutting the onion?
The funeral was very well done and Peter speech while awkwardly delivered was really on point. He was still processing the entire thing.
Sylvester Stalone was surprisingly pretty good as a cameo. Him and the Ravagers showing up to honor Yondu was sweet and plus he put the original Guardians of the Galaxy back together too, nice Easter egg.
I have to say, Kurt Russell finally did it, he's finally the first great MCU villain since Loki (not counting TV shows). Damn we waited so long but it was worth it. I hope Marvel learn from this, it's always good to give your villain some screen time and a good backstory to make them more relatable. The Winter Soldier and Zemo were really good as well but they were never quite the level of Loki. So congrats Marvel, keep it up.
Some things I prefer in the first movie, is that I missed it when the team first got together and they were fighting all the time, that was hilarious. Though you still see it here, they are a family but they're still arguing among themselves. I thought the first movie was more cohesive as a film, in this one sometimes it's a bit all over the place, but it never became much of an issue. Also i prefer the 70's music over the 80's. Though that's just a nitpick personal preference.
I'll give credit to this movie and Kurt Russell selling the character of Ego so well that not until they went into the core of the planet that I realized "OH shit, Kurt Russell is the villain of this movie and this is the final battle!"
He just sold the character so well as the loving father figure and it help that the main villain weren't established in the beginning like in the first movie with Ronan.
Overall, I highly enjoyed this movie. Definitely a worthy sequel that I enjoy much more than the original. The Guardians of the Galaxy is a fantastic team. I can't wait for Adam Warlock and Vol. 3
I like parts of this better than the first movie. Like how the team is a lot more cohesive now, I assume only several months have passed since the end of the first one. There are a hell of a lot more jokes, though they're in much more small quick doses which help not to make me feel like it was dragging on too much. There were a lot of callback to the first movie, like Peter mix tape, his history with the Ravagers, Rocket and Drax background as well.
I absolutely love baby Groot, I thought normal Groot in the original movie was fantastic but man Marvel outdid themselves with baby Groot. A scene stealer in all the scenes he's in.
Mantis is absolutely adorable, she's basically Drax before Drax learned a few things from Peter and Groot about sarcasm and humor (which is hilarious how he's still pretty bad at it and he was play jokes on Mantis). I hope they give her more action oriented scenes in future instalment.
I'm glad Nebula came back and you get to see that she's not inherently the "bad daughter" after all, that she just wanted a normal sister in Gamora. I'm happy that their relationship were expanded upon. GODDAMN, Kurt Russell can sell the shit out of being the "good dad" role. He and Chris Pratt has great chemistry together to the point that while I saw the whole "he's secretly evil" thing coming from a mile away, I was still in disbelief when it actually happened because for moments there he really did seem like he care about Peter. The whole scene of them playing catch is so heartwarming. Same with Gamora and Nebula confessing their feelings right after trying to kill one another.
But honestly one of the most underrated emotional scenes of this movie is when Drax and Mantis were talking, and she read his emotions. At that point I teared up because it made you remember that under all that hunking mass of muscles, he's still a guy that lost his family tragically and what he said was actually pretty damn true. "If you're ugly and still loved, you know that love is definitely real." I feel like Drax is pretty damn wise, but because of his terrible social skill, sometimes that doesnt translate well. But when it does, it's pretty damn good.
I'm actually surprise they managed to outdone the emotional department of this movie comparing to the original. So many moments litter throughout the entire movie and all of them felt so authentic. Of course, when Yondu sacrificed himself to save Peter, damn that hit me like an arrow to the chest.
I think it did to Peter as well, realizing that the father figure he was looking for years, has been there the entire damn time. It's so cliche, I know. But they pulled it off so well. Michael Rooker played Yondu so well, from his rough mannerism that can transition to caring in a second. To him laughing amidst chaos to deadly serious. I'm really going to miss him. I hope he come back in some way. I legit cried during that final scene. Peter has to watch his mother died, watch as his father confessed to killing his mom, watch his father die in his hand and then finally watch as the father he always has but never saw sacrificed himself to save his life. Damn, Marvel. Why are you cutting the onion?
The funeral was very well done and Peter speech while awkwardly delivered was really on point. He was still processing the entire thing.
Sylvester Stalone was surprisingly pretty good as a cameo. Him and the Ravagers showing up to honor Yondu was sweet and plus he put the original Guardians of the Galaxy back together too, nice Easter egg.
I have to say, Kurt Russell finally did it, he's finally the first great MCU villain since Loki (not counting TV shows). Damn we waited so long but it was worth it. I hope Marvel learn from this, it's always good to give your villain some screen time and a good backstory to make them more relatable. The Winter Soldier and Zemo were really good as well but they were never quite the level of Loki. So congrats Marvel, keep it up.
Some things I prefer in the first movie, is that I missed it when the team first got together and they were fighting all the time, that was hilarious. Though you still see it here, they are a family but they're still arguing among themselves. I thought the first movie was more cohesive as a film, in this one sometimes it's a bit all over the place, but it never became much of an issue. Also i prefer the 70's music over the 80's. Though that's just a nitpick personal preference.
I'll give credit to this movie and Kurt Russell selling the character of Ego so well that not until they went into the core of the planet that I realized "OH shit, Kurt Russell is the villain of this movie and this is the final battle!"
He just sold the character so well as the loving father figure and it help that the main villain weren't established in the beginning like in the first movie with Ronan.
Overall, I highly enjoyed this movie. Definitely a worthy sequel that I enjoy much more than the original. The Guardians of the Galaxy is a fantastic team. I can't wait for Adam Warlock and Vol. 3
ryutaro's mama
Member
All that did was excite me for Thor: Rag No Rock n Roll.
Also, I found it interesting how Gunn continues to keep his narrative hooks completely sequestered away from the main line MCU peeps. He wants his universe to be as self contained as possible.
Cross-Section
Member
*1 hour in*
"Hmm. A bunch of these jokes aren't really landing. I wonder how much better this film might have been if Gunn had been allowed to make the character drama he so clearly wanted to do here?"
*1 hour later*
"Hmm. A bunch of these jokes aren't really landing. I wonder how much better this film might have been if Gunn had been allowed to make the character drama he so clearly wanted to do here?"
*1 hour later*
never before has a sequel salvaged its first half in such an effective and resonant manner that it also becomes better than the film that preceded it
beyond_death
Member
I was wondering about that. I heard he was supposed to be in but I did not see him.
Obliterator
Member
Yeah the Thor trailer played at the beginning of Guardians and I heard several people exclaim out loud that was "the girl from the Thor preview"
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Yeah that was great, didn't expect that. Though I couldn't figure out who the chubby guy dancing in the credit was.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
Nice! Thought I was seeing things at first.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
it's not so much as he wanted to eradicate life as much as he wanted them to steer into a direction that he wants, i.e. his image
It sounds like the actual cameo got cut. I tried looking for the leaked posters during the scenes where it'd be obvious for them to show up, but things moved too fast for me to catch them.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Also wasn't Ayesha a heroine in the comics
For a hot minute. She mainly did her own thing after they kicked her off of earth for trying to impregnate several superheroes
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Oh, I could identify with wishing David Hasselhoff was my father, I did at some point in the height of my Knight Rider obsession. I didn't pretend he was or anything but better than the nothing father I had.
So what was his reason for killing her? Was it to kill any temptation he had to return to Earth and see her? I guess that would mean he did care about her to an extent, but his selfishness ultimately came first.
I quite liked this movie until the climax/conclusion when it really should have worked towards a natural ending except it just sort of didn't. And then tonally it was just all over the place, moreso than it needed.
Still, even if I think it didn't stick the landing the stuff leading up to it was great stuff. Rocket and Drax stole the show again.
Still, even if I think it didn't stick the landing the stuff leading up to it was great stuff. Rocket and Drax stole the show again.
Obliterator
Member
Yep that's why he killed her. It's why he mentioned he knew he could never go back as he felt that he would never leave her or Earth.
Basically he killed her so he wouldn't be tempted to not follow through with his plan
The Driver
Member
It was entertaining but it's not as good as the first. Felt like it was a pass or two away from getting there. Structurally it kinda reminds me of STID where after the opening setpiece basically the rest of the movie is one long as set up in one spot for the climax. Man, that 2nd act was longggggg. Gunn did a pretty decent job on the character arcs and thankfully Russell is a neat villain though Taserface/Aeysha where so lame.
Humor and song selection wasn't as on point as the first either. Lots of flat gags especially from Drax and Rocket. Drax got shafted even harder than 1 in the action/plot department too. I don't think he actually contributed anything to the plot besides jokes and the mostly offscreen opening battle.
Humor and song selection wasn't as on point as the first either. Lots of flat gags especially from Drax and Rocket. Drax got shafted even harder than 1 in the action/plot department too. I don't think he actually contributed anything to the plot besides jokes and the mostly offscreen opening battle.
torre_avenue
Banned
Gunn cut those scenes, but even then, they were just background stuff on a theater. IIRC, the set leaks were from the goo expansion scene and so it must have gotten cut because it was unnecessary.
Yeah I think that theater was there to the left of the DQ when the goo starts expanding. Looked like the location from the set pics.
ThisGuy
Member
Wait what? She tried to impregnate them? Not get impregnated?
Obliterator
Member
I think it's a testament to how good the 1st third and last 3rd of the film are that the middle section didn't ruin the movie. There was a very clear feeling in my theatre that it was dragging. Crowd got mostly silent and stopped even laughing at the quips during that long stretch on Ego there in the middle despite clearly being into the beginning and ending
DrForester
Kills Photobucket
Michael Rooker deserves a ton of award nominations come the end of the year.
It seems like a pretty big thing to cut. I wonder if they're going to work him into Homecoming or Ragnarok instead, since Jeff Goldmaster was snuck into this credits sequence.
When he first reformed after Peter shot him he turned into Hasselhoff for a second and said that he had taken a form that would be most appealing as a father figure to Peter.
This just made me think that Peter has more in-common with Steve than I realized with them both being a "man out of time" in different ways.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
This movie had fuckbots..
Alcoremortis
Member
This just made me think that Peter has more in-common with Steve than I realized with them both being a "man out of time" in different ways.
Man if Peter Quill comes back to Earth and Steve Rogers ends up being the one to show him how all the new stuff works... XD.