Yeah i died when they pulled that bit. At least my friends and I lost it at that joke.
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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!
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Yeah i died when they pulled that bit. At least my friends and I lost it at that joke.
I initially thought that the robot head was a Lexx reference.
Also shitloads of violence and death including watching multiple people be murdered via exposure to space.
Not sure, there's a bit of frontloaded adult humor and cursing
Also shitloads of violence and death including watching multiple people be murdered via exposure to space.
There's some talk about how babies are made.Is this ok for an 9 yr old to see
Patrick Bateman
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There's some talk about how babies are made.
What?
That's your main concern when there's people dying in the vacuum of space in close up or dozens of people get punctured by a large needle?
roflwaffles
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Guardians is a better space opera-type movie than Star Wars. Get at me.
What?
That's your main concern when there's people dying in the vacuum of space in close up or dozens of people get punctured by a large needle?
We got some fucked up ideas about what's okay for kids to see.
I really don't get all the talk about Drax.
It's clear that both he and Mantis have very limited experience with social graces. Drax had basically none, and has been hanging around with the Guardians since. His only real experience with interactions outside his planet is with them, and they're all dicks, so in addition to already having no tact himself, he thinks being a dick is normal.
When he talks to Mantis, or plays his "practical jokes, he's basically using what he's learned to try and fit in. There's no actual malice to it - he legitimately doesn't find her physically attractive, and has no mechanism that would help him understand the ramifications of his words. He's clearly shown doing the same thing to Star Lord earlier, and Star Lord is someone he respects.
Not to mention that he clearly grows to value her company, and selflessly sacrifices himself to give her a better chance.
Mantis, on the other hand, isn't acknowledging she's ugly because she's scared of Drax. She just has no experience dealing with people, and Drax is so matter-of-fact about it that she just thinks it's the way people talk to each other. She's also trying to fit in.
Think of the prank show where everyone in a doctor's waiting room stands up when a bell rings. When the mark is sitting there and everyone stands at the bell, he feels odd not standing, too, so he starts standing when the bell goes even though he has no idea why. Even when everyone else leaves, he will continue doing it.
It's the same with Mantis. She's in a situation where Drax says things and no-one chides him for it, so it must be the way things are. Should the other Guardians chide him? Probably, but they're also all dicks and are already used to him, so it probably phases them less.
It's clear that both he and Mantis have very limited experience with social graces. Drax had basically none, and has been hanging around with the Guardians since. His only real experience with interactions outside his planet is with them, and they're all dicks, so in addition to already having no tact himself, he thinks being a dick is normal.
When he talks to Mantis, or plays his "practical jokes, he's basically using what he's learned to try and fit in. There's no actual malice to it - he legitimately doesn't find her physically attractive, and has no mechanism that would help him understand the ramifications of his words. He's clearly shown doing the same thing to Star Lord earlier, and Star Lord is someone he respects.
Not to mention that he clearly grows to value her company, and selflessly sacrifices himself to give her a better chance.
Mantis, on the other hand, isn't acknowledging she's ugly because she's scared of Drax. She just has no experience dealing with people, and Drax is so matter-of-fact about it that she just thinks it's the way people talk to each other. She's also trying to fit in.
Think of the prank show where everyone in a doctor's waiting room stands up when a bell rings. When the mark is sitting there and everyone stands at the bell, he feels odd not standing, too, so he starts standing when the bell goes even though he has no idea why. Even when everyone else leaves, he will continue doing it.
It's the same with Mantis. She's in a situation where Drax says things and no-one chides him for it, so it must be the way things are. Should the other Guardians chide him? Probably, but they're also all dicks and are already used to him, so it probably phases them less.
I'm interested to see what some parents say, but it's something I thought about while watching it. I don't have kids of my own but I definitely got the sense that it's almost more kid friendly than the first, especially with a lot of the jokes and gags being slapstick, but it also features main characters who are a bit of jerks and abrasive to even their friends so while I don't think there is too much cursing, and nothing that I remember as being as risque as the Jackson Pollack painting joke from the first which was more implied and let your mind fill in the blanks, it's Gunn's same sense of humor that's​ crude without being obscene (making lots of sex jokes that push the boundaries) but it's the sort of writing that makes it dirtier for adults than kids. Even some of the cursing is like the first where they call people "a-holes" or Rocket says "he says welcome to the fricken GotG, but he didn't use fricken".Is this ok for an 9 yr old to see
Without seeing it again, I'd give it a "hard PG-13" in the same way people talk about a "hard R" film, but I think 9 is about the age most parents might feel comfortable taking their kids because even some scene get a little too intense for much younger kids, but I think people's mileage my vary.
I remember parents taking very young kids to the first film, more than I tend to see for most Marvel films these days, and I wondered if the film was aimed too old for them but I expect this to have a similar spread of older audience for the music, younger for Rocket and Groot, and an immature, adolescent sense of humor and 80's references that pleases everyone in-between. It's almost like a throwback PG kid's movie from the 80s but with less cursing and less nudity (in other words, none) than they allowed back then, which seems pretty edgy these days to consider this a kid friendly movie but it kind of is.
The violence also firmly places it in the PG 13 realm, to me, but that also skirts the rating board a bit since the body count is huge in one scene with Yondu, but it's mainly all an arrow quickly flying through people, then they also fight unmanned ships where no one dies. There is alien violence that also gets a pass since alien blood is okay and there are moments at the end fighting Ego that get a little gruesome, but only in an odd, uncomfortable way because, he's not a physical being but a cosmic entity that can rebuild himself. Again, it's the sort of thing that makes it a hard PG 13 these days, but it is possibly less gory and violent than some PG films in the 80s.
Honestly I think more younger kids will like this than Civil War or BvS, for instance, which both got way more serious in tone. Like how people here are clowning the Taserface gag, I can see a 9 year old either thinking it's funny or dumb, where most adults wouldn't find it funny, but a 6 year old would love it. It might be the funniest joke to a 6 year old besides the slapstick.
Fast Forward
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IDK. I seen movies like T2 when I was 8 on VHS, so I may not be the best judge, LOL.Is this ok for an 9 yr old to see
That being said, as long as language that pushes the limits of PG-13 does not bother you, I think so. Your typical PG-13 Summer Blockbuster.
Also say "asshole" once.They say shit a few times.
Surprised they did not say "Fuck" also, as I believe you are allowed to say it once in a PG-13 movie.
IDK. I seen movies like T2 when I was 8 on VHS, so I may not be the best judge, LOL.
That being said, as long as language that pushes the limits of PG-13 does not bother you, I think so. Your typical PG-13 Summer Blockbuster.
Also say "asshole" once.
Surprised they did not say "Fuck" also, as I believe you are allowed to say it once in a PG-13 movie.
They say something like "stupid fox" which sounded like fucks when I first heard it.
Surprised they did not say "Fuck" also, as I believe you are allowed to say it once in a PG-13 movie.
They blew their one opportunity to just outright say it at the end with an implication joke courtesy of Rocket, but I guess Marvel wants to be a lot more tactful than that even if the MPAA would've allowed it to not shoot into R-territory. Wouldn't be surprised to hear if Gunn tried to originally go for it, though.
Guardians is a better space opera-type movie than Star Wars. Get at me.
What you said is true, from a certain perspective.
OWWW MY NIPPLESDrax does talk about his nipples on occasion, so who knows
EDIT: Great way to start the next page :I
Fast Forward
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I won't.Guardians is a better space opera-type movie than Star Wars. Get at me.
I mean, I disagree, but I could see the argument for your point.
Plus, while I like Star Wars a lot, even the OT has plenty of flaws in it.
Fork on the Left
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I really enjoyed it, especially the send off Yondu gets but am I the only one who was rubbed the wrong way when they reveal Quill's mom dying of a brain tumor is is just another plot point with a sci-fi twist? I dunno, it just felt weird making it that Ego gave her the tumor.
I really don't get all the talk about Drax.
It's clear that both he and Mantis have very limited experience with social graces. Drax had basically none, and has been hanging around with the Guardians since. His only real experience with interactions outside his planet is with them, and they're all dicks, so in addition to already having no tact himself, he thinks being a dick is normal.
When he talks to Mantis, or plays his "practical jokes, he's basically using what he's learned to try and fit in. There's no actual malice to it - he legitimately doesn't find her physically attractive, and has no mechanism that would help him understand the ramifications of his words. He's clearly shown doing the same thing to Star Lord earlier, and Star Lord is someone he respects.
Not to mention that he clearly grows to value her company, and selflessly sacrifices himself to give her a better chance.
Mantis, on the other hand, isn't acknowledging she's ugly because she's scared of Drax. She just has no experience dealing with people, and Drax is so matter-of-fact about it that she just thinks it's the way people talk to each other. She's also trying to fit in.
Think of the prank show where everyone in a doctor's waiting room stands up when a bell rings. When the mark is sitting there and everyone stands at the bell, he feels odd not standing, too, so he starts standing when the bell goes even though he has no idea why. Even when everyone else leaves, he will continue doing it.
It's the same with Mantis. She's in a situation where Drax says things and no-one chides him for it, so it must be the way things are. Should the other Guardians chide him? Probably, but they're also all dicks and are already used to him, so it probably phases them less.
People are complaining about Drax?
People are complaining about Drax?
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I really enjoyed it, especially the send off Yondu gets but am I the only one who was rubbed the wrong way when they reveal Quill's mom dying of a brain tumor is is just another plot point with a sci-fi twist? I dunno, it just felt weird making it that Ego gave her the tumor.
I expected something like this since the Intro of GotG tbh.
Not the exact details but that Peters dad has something to do with her illness.
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Ah.
Given that Sex Ed's in the 5th grade where I'm at? Yes, It's the first thing I'd be thinking of, especially if they already saw the first movie- the violence isn't any different.What?
That's your main concern when there's people dying in the vacuum of space in close up or dozens of people get punctured by a large needle?
demosthenes
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IDK. I seen movies like T2 when I was 8 on VHS, so I may not be the best judge, LOL.
That being said, as long as language that pushes the limits of PG-13 does not bother you, I think so. Your typical PG-13 Summer Blockbuster.
Also say "asshole" once.
Surprised they did not say "Fuck" also, as I believe you are allowed to say it once in a PG-13 movie.
I was wondering if the first aholes was because of too many curse words in total.
I really enjoyed it, especially the send off Yondu gets but am I the only one who was rubbed the wrong way when they reveal Quill's mom dying of a brain tumor is is just another plot point with a sci-fi twist? I dunno, it just felt weird making it that Ego gave her the tumor.
At the time I didn't find it weird so much as a little shocking and psychopathic. But in hindsight I could see the argument that it unnecessarily dehumanizes Ego even more and kinda undermines the relative simplicity of Quill's presumed backstory of an unfortunate waif who gets caught up in the mean streets of space piracy.
I really enjoyed it, especially the send off Yondu gets but am I the only one who was rubbed the wrong way when they reveal Quill's mom dying of a brain tumor is is just another plot point with a sci-fi twist? I dunno, it just felt weird making it that Ego gave her the tumor.
Why did he give it to her?
I really didn't like that. Like, I kinda knew it was coming as soon as Ego was shown as being "bad", but I figured they were going to go another way to get Peter to snap out of the trance. I would've been happier if he said that he could've saved her, but didn't.I really enjoyed it, especially the send off Yondu gets but am I the only one who was rubbed the wrong way when they reveal Quill's mom dying of a brain tumor is is just another plot point with a sci-fi twist? I dunno, it just felt weird making it that Ego gave her the tumor.
Why did he give it to her?
Because it would make it easier to full fill his plan, because the only person he ever loved were dead.
I always kind of thought that maybe her exposure to Ego's cosmic energy might have accidentally given her the tumor. That would have even been a good reason for why he left her. But I guess they wanted the audience to really see how dedicated he was to his goal that he felt the need to rid himself of distractions.
That and the scream as he launches, so good. This film had so many great moments.
OWWW MY NIPPLES
That and the scream as he launches, so good. This film had so many great moments.
The tazerface gag gets a pass for me because of the absolutely fuckin' hilarious pay-off when he died. When Ayesha's face contorted into a laugh, I left the scene in tears.
Lmao this
Because it would make it easier to full fill his plan, because the only person he ever loved were dead.
Yeah, made sense to me.
It definitely handles the melodrama and emotion better than Star War has since the OT. I don't even think it's controversial.Guardians is a better space opera-type movie than Star Wars. Get at me.
When I'm watching blue and green space people shout their emotions and I actually get choked up, you know the film is executing properly in a way that shouldn't work on paper.
What makes it funnier is that I'm not even sure Drax has visible humanoid nipples, just tattoos where any nipples should be.OWWW MY NIPPLES
WadiumArcadium
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is gunn involved with Infinity War?
do know if Nebula is in it?
He's an Executive Producer and yeah, she is.
Edit: Bit more detail on his role.
Yes, I'm an Executive Producer on Infinity War. I've been working hard with the Russo brothers, with the Marvel guys, with Kevin Feige, to make sure that any of the characters that I'm involved with, that are in that movie are well taken care of and are as funny as they should be, and is are as honest and truthful as they should be. So I've been dealing with them all the time. I've been talking to the actors on set every single day as we go through production, and it's been a great experience so far.
demosthenes
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He's an Executive Producer and yeah, she is.
Edit: Bit more detail on his role.
Yea I don't know how she couldn't be. Can you imagine her showing up in gotg 3, "thanos is dead?!"
WadiumArcadium
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Yea I don't know how she couldn't be. Can you imagine her showing up in gotg 3, "thanos is dead?!"
I think Birdie mentioned it earlier in the thread but I could imagine that being pretty funny. She's so intent on killing her 'father' and the others go and do it without her haha.
Really cool. I did have a slight worry that the team would change too much since we've only had 2 films with them, but Gunn overseeing the characters, it should be great to see Markus and McFeely's take on Drax especially.He's an Executive Producer and yeah, she is.
Edit: Bit more detail on his role.
I think he could be a character that is easy to get wrong.
If they're OK with a walking, talking skeleton that's regrowing flesh and muscle.Is this ok for an 9 yr old to see
He's an Executive Producer and yeah, she is.
Edit: Bit more detail on his role.
wonderful, sounds like we'll get a solid chapter of the gotg in iw
Guhnmystro
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Did anyone else think the guy who inherited Yondu's whistle arrow looked like a tweaked out Alex Smith?
I think I actually liked this one more.
Besides this music, I can't think of why I liked the first more. I mean I loved the first, but this one was made me for me. Yondu got a great arc, Sean Gunn had a big role and the most touching scene in the movie, Jimmy Urine got some good screen time, that Stan Lee cameo, the PAC MAN CAMEO!, and it was just funny as hell.
Plus Ego is one of the better Marvel villains so far.
I expected to love the movie, and I'm still pleasantly surprised at how much I liked it.
Besides this music, I can't think of why I liked the first more. I mean I loved the first, but this one was made me for me. Yondu got a great arc, Sean Gunn had a big role and the most touching scene in the movie, Jimmy Urine got some good screen time, that Stan Lee cameo, the PAC MAN CAMEO!, and it was just funny as hell.
Plus Ego is one of the better Marvel villains so far.
I expected to love the movie, and I'm still pleasantly surprised at how much I liked it.
I really​ think Ego's scene with Peter explaining the lyrics of Brandy was great.
I've compared GotG Vol. 1 and 2 to Kill Bill Vol. 1 and 2 in terms of how the second films are far more character driven, but I think that scene especially reminds me of some Tarantino type writing, sort of like the Superman scene in Kill Bil Vol. 2 with a sort of analysis on pop culture linking to the film's narrative.
Gunn has done several scenes of the same vein (Peter talking about Footloose, Knight Rider, etc.) so I'm not saying it's a rip-off, but that sort of evil undertone to Ego's story especially as you understand how he thinks the song relates to him that reminded me of that scene. It kind of leaves you wondering where he is going with the story as you realize it's not quite going in the direction you thought it might.
I've compared GotG Vol. 1 and 2 to Kill Bill Vol. 1 and 2 in terms of how the second films are far more character driven, but I think that scene especially reminds me of some Tarantino type writing, sort of like the Superman scene in Kill Bil Vol. 2 with a sort of analysis on pop culture linking to the film's narrative.
Gunn has done several scenes of the same vein (Peter talking about Footloose, Knight Rider, etc.) so I'm not saying it's a rip-off, but that sort of evil undertone to Ego's story especially as you understand how he thinks the song relates to him that reminded me of that scene. It kind of leaves you wondering where he is going with the story as you realize it's not quite going in the direction you thought it might.
MugiwaraCole
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We got some fucked up ideas about what's okay for kids to see.
Drax said it best; "You Terrans have some weird hang-ups."
peanutbutterlatte
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If Vol 1 taught him anything it's that aimless pursuit of revenge earns him nothing. He nearly got the entire squad killed doing that. He says it lightly at the end of 1, almost as if he acknowledges it's out of reach/not worth pursuing.That was angry Drax. Funny Drax wants to hug Thanos.
Who is currently projected to die in Infinity War?
CocaMantis
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Saw it last night. Fantastic movie, way, way better than its predecessor on every single level.
The openning scene had the entire room laughing and I right there I knew we were about to see something special. And oh boy it was.
A couple things that I found weird/kinda disliked:
-When Ego is talking with Peter about his plan and how he needed another Celestial to accomplish that, he says "but when I found that there was a guy on EARTH that could hold an Infinity Stone with his hands, I knew it was you". Peter wasn't on Earth when that happened. Did I get that sentence wrong or what?
-The creation of Adam Warlock. I think it's weird they decided to go on that way since we saw his egg in Guardians 1.
And those are my only "complaints" with the movie. Yes, it has some cringe-worthy scenes and some jokes fell flat but that happens on all movies so I guess I can't quite complain about that.
And HOLY SHIT The Watchers! Can't wait to see where the MCU goes from here.
The openning scene had the entire room laughing and I right there I knew we were about to see something special. And oh boy it was.
A couple things that I found weird/kinda disliked:
-When Ego is talking with Peter about his plan and how he needed another Celestial to accomplish that, he says "but when I found that there was a guy on EARTH that could hold an Infinity Stone with his hands, I knew it was you". Peter wasn't on Earth when that happened. Did I get that sentence wrong or what?
-The creation of Adam Warlock. I think it's weird they decided to go on that way since we saw his egg in Guardians 1.
And those are my only "complaints" with the movie. Yes, it has some cringe-worthy scenes and some jokes fell flat but that happens on all movies so I guess I can't quite complain about that.
And HOLY SHIT The Watchers! Can't wait to see where the MCU goes from here.
MugiwaraCole
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Surprised they did not say "Fuck" also, as I believe you are allowed to say it once in a PG-13 movie.
I'm not. Still under Disney. I'll be (pleasantly) surprised if they let Black Panther get away with dropping a "nigga" or two.
baddvision
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great movie all around, enjoyed it more than the first movie, tons of surprises, jokes were hysterical, i'm mary poppins y'all!!
i got your backGuardians is a better space opera-type movie than Star Wars. Get at me.