Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!

Nah. That's a celestial being, of course but, not a "celestial" in the literal sense.

the assumption is that they've rolled up the cosmic entities and other cosmic weirdness into "celestials" as a catch-all term. not sure how I feel about it or if it holds up as speculation, but I do think that the reference to Eternity was there for a reason.
 
Every single character arc in this film is about parenthood. Gamora and Nebula's abuse by Thanos. Starlord's search for his father. Drax finding a daughter figure in Mantis. Rocket's bonding with Yondu over the lack of any kind of parental figure. Baby Groot's relationship with the entire team. It all culminates in the notion that the team itself serves as the group's family. It's not window dressing, it's the driving idea of the movie.
You don't learn anything from it. The whole family angle is pushed down your throat with heavy exposition so that part is super obvious. Child abuse is a heavy topic so when all its used for is to convince you that person's a bad guy, it feels cheap and unearned. Invoking it makes you hate Ego and Thanos more than their other actions but then it ends there. Nothing else. Guardians tries to impress you by using depth but it's just a trick to make you rage similar to August Rush and it's fakeness.
 
You don't learn anything from it. The whole family angle is pushed down your throat with heavy exposition so that part is super obvious. Child abuse is a heavy topic so when all its used for is to convince you that person's a bad guy, it feels cheap and unearned. Invoking it makes you hate Ego and Thanos more than their other actions but then it ends there. Nothing else. Guardians tries to impress you by using depth but it's just a trick to make you rage similar to August Rush and it's fakeness.
Your first sentence is that you don't learn anything from it and the rest of your post is a bunch of stuff that doesn't prove that you don't learn anything. You just listed a bunch of stuff about the movie you didn't like. A bunch of which is just arbitrary and subjective.
 
the assumption is that they've rolled up the cosmic entities and other cosmic weirdness into "celestials" as a catch-all term. not sure how I feel about it or if it holds up as speculation, but I do think that the reference to Eternity was there for a reason.

I don't think that was a reference to capital-E Eternity, the abstract entity. I think Quill was given a brief taste of cosmic consciousness, the power to perceive the totality of existence, that some Marvel cosmic characters have in the comics.
 
I don't think that was a reference to capital-E Eternity, the abstract entity. I think Quill was given a brief taste of cosmic consciousness, the power to perceive the totality of existence, that some Marvel cosmic characters have in the comics.

Cosmic Awareness
 
Just got back; it was pretty good, not great. There were a lot of fun jokes but too often it felt like the movie would keep a gag running one beat too long and it got a little grating - either explaining the joke or repeating it sometimes. I loved how weird it got, although every now and then it felt as if it was undermining its own seriousness with its humor sometimes.
"I'm gonna build a huge statue of Pac Man!" was funny; him becoming Pac Man with sound effects for his serious father/son duel was... hmm. Likewise the speech he gave for Yondu's viking funeral was funny, and emotional, but it felt like it was more for the sake of a joke than something the character would actually say.

It was too long by half and most of the meat of the story was crammed into the third act. I really liked the family matters the story addressed; I especially liked Gamora and Nebula's arc together. The setup of Ego and then the reveal of him being untoward just happened way too fast; we get like one scene of Peter trusting him before it starts dropping obvious hints about what is really going on.

I'm a bit confused about Ego's motivation as well. So he realized he was a god, then got bored without a purpose and didn't want to be alone... so his plan was to take over the universe and be alone? I feel like I missed something here.

Also, c'mon. Don't play The Chain if you're not going to play all of the song! Where's that bass solo!!



The light. If the white stuff disappears he dies. He spreads the lights threw out the Galaxy it'll become impossible to kill him. That's why he planted the blob seeds threw out the galaxy. It's the light.
 
You don't learn anything from it. The whole family angle is pushed down your throat with heavy exposition so that part is super obvious. Child abuse is a heavy topic so when all its used for is to convince you that person's a bad guy, it feels cheap and unearned. Invoking it makes you hate Ego and Thanos more than their other actions but then it ends there. Nothing else. Guardians tries to impress you by using depth but it's just a trick to make you rage similar to August Rush and it's fakeness.

If you think the purpose of "invoking child abuse" was simply an attempt to get people to hate Thanos, then I think we have fundamentally different views on characterization. It's established to be the very basis of Gamora and Nebula's hostile relationship. It serves to provide significant insight into everything Nebula has done in these movies. It's a detail that adds texture, richness, and depth to these two characters and their relationship.
 
Just saw it. Enjoyed it, but would probably give the edge to Vol. 1, if not by a great deal (nowhere close to the gap between The Avengers and Age of Ultron, the latter which I found quite disappointing compared to the original). Also wished they would've played through all of The Chain, which I was hoping they were going to do during the final battle.
Also all of this is basically Rocket's fault for stealing those batteries for absolutely no reason
Pretty much.
 
Who was that group with Stallone and Ving Rhames in the credits?

I liked it, but not as much as the first one. First one's soundtrack was a little better than this one too.

But between this and Logan (even though I expected it with Logan) I've been shedding tears at superhero films. I didn't even care that much about Yondu before this film, but damn that was a sad as hell last 5 minutes.

Also all of this is basically Rocket's fault for stealing those batteries for absolutely no reason

Damned trash panda.
 
Who was that group with Stallone and Ving Rhames in the credits?

The original Guardians of the Galaxy in the comics.

I loved the movie as an extension of the first one, they work as a seamless whole, like James Gunn had already written this one in his head while they were doing the first one. It helps that he seems to love and care about these characters as much as the audience does.

I appreciate that all the humor comes from their personalities and the chemistry of the cast rather than be contrived. The scene with the Ravagers and Rocket in the woods is a great example of that. It's a set-piece, but it all comes out of the question of how Rocket would react and handle the situation.

I just really enjoy this group of characters and their cemented relationship as a family now, the ending really sold that. They work outside of what the comics have done with them for the better.

Also I'm wondering if the Stan Lee cameo with the Watchers was a hint that Marvel has gotten more of the cosmic Marvel Universe back from Fox that was attached to the Fantastic Four rights than they're making public, as I'm sure the Watchers were definitely part of the Fox / F4 deal. Hope this means Galactus and the Silver Surfer are discreetly back with Marvel now for future use in the MCU.
 
Also all of this is basically Rocket's fault for stealing those batteries for absolutely no reason

Hey, it led to having a way to kill Ego so that he'd never get a chance to do this thing (Maybe he'd make a baby that wasn't Peter that had Celestial powers), so it... all worked out! Sort of.
 
Saw it and loved it-maybe more than the first. Some of the jokes didn't land with me. I really didn't like the obvious Dairy Queen product placement-even worse than Denny's or Applebees or whatever the fuck it was in Man of Steel. But other than that I loved everything.

Nebula was fucking great in this.


"MY NIPPLES!!"
*flies away*
 
If you think the purpose of "invoking child abuse" was simply an attempt to get people to hate Thanos, then I think we have fundamentally different views on characterization. It's established to be the very basis of Gamora and Nebula's hostile relationship. It serves to provide significant insight into everything Nebula has done in these movies. It's a detail that adds texture, richness, and depth to these two characters and their relationship.

Nebula is such a non-character that I'm surprised anyone knows her name. Her actions seem more rooted in her hated of her sister for excelling in her Father's eyes which makes sense since Gamora seems to be target #1. There's no insight, it's a poorly designed vehicle to make you hate Thanos and Ego but ends there.

You could tell that theme was going to be exploited the moment a Ravager says, "we don't deal in kids": super psycho won't hurt kids so he's alright in our books. It's extreme wool over your eyes from that moment because it's an easy way to make you care just because of how loaded the subject is.
 
Nebula is such a non-character that I'm surprised anyone knows her name. Her actions seem more rooted in her hated of her sister for excelling in her Father's eyes which makes sense since Gamora seems to be target #1. There's no insight, it's a poorly designed vehicle to make you hate Thanos and Ego but ends there.

You could tell that theme was going to be exploited the moment a Ravager says, "we don't deal in kids": super psycho won't hurt kids so he's alright in our books. It's extreme wool over your eyes from that moment because it's just lazy story telling.

"Lazy Storytelling"

Heh.

This person praised BvS. Defended its storytelling too.
 
Saw it and loved it-maybe more than the first. Some of the jokes didn't land with me. I really didn't like the obvious Dairy Queen product placement-even worse than Denny's or Applebees or whatever the fuck it was in Man of Steel. But other than that I loved everything.

Nebula was fucking great in this.


"MY NIPPLES!!"
*flies away*

It was an IHOP man. Clearly the product placement wasn't good enough for you. :P
 
i need to rewatch this asap

such thoughtful creation of the Cosmic Universe, throughout. glad to see Thor fully embrace it with Ragnarok, and can't wait for all these threads to come together in IW.

GOAT series of movies
 
I like the character development in this movie. It was much needed after the first movie. I feel like 1/3 of the movie was just characters talking together about their personal lives.
 
You use that struck a nerve shit every time.

Get some new material.

Your history of "critiquing" movies speaks for itself.

I seem to recall you being involved in any thread about Cargo Shorts because the mockery made you feel some type of way

Can y'all stay on topic? I get you guys are obsessed with me but we're talking about a movie here and not me.

You can PM me if you want to vent about me.
 
I feel like I deserve a pat on the back for not making a Nickelback joke. Don't think I haven't thought of a few.
Lol
Can y'all stay on topic? I get you guys are obsessed with me but we're talking about a movie here and not me.

You can PM me if you want to vent about me.
You'll soon figure this out, but your annoying ass shtick and your constant history of just being a contrarian because you have nothing better to do makes people annoyed with you. No one cares about you really though.
 
Can y'all stay on topic? I get you guys are obsessed with me but we're talking about a movie here and not me.

You can PM me if you want to vent about me.

Same schtick, different thread.

"Hey everyone, look at me. I have a totally opposite hot take to everyone else."

You'll soon figure this out, but your annoying ass shtick and your constant history of just being a contrarian because you have nothing better to do makes people annoyed with you. No one cares about you really though.
 
Finally saw the movie (even though it's been out here for like a week).

It was good. Entertaining, though I think there were more juvenile jokes this time around. I legit teared up a bit in that funeral scene. Way more of an emotional core in this movie.

Baby Groot was adorable most of the time, though I think the opening scene with them was a bit self-indulgent. The action was neat, though I'm sad that there wasn't more screen-time of Ego as a giant planet face.

Zune slayed me.

All in all, I give it a Φ out of 7, would watch again.
 
Yondu's arrow is scary.

They made him too OP, that's why he had to go

Also I'm glad that a Marvel movie had a very meaningful character death that, unless they pull some really dumb shit, has no chance of being walked back/being a fake out

Yeah man. One of the most terrifying weapons in the MCU. The only scarier one in my opinion, is Purple Man's power of persuasion.

Ok now THAT motherfucker.

Take that coffee.

Throw it in your face.
 
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