NoctisVsStar
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Yeah that sounds good taking a slightly different twist on the original.
Dragon Ball Super |OT6| Put your back into it.
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Yeah that sounds good taking a slightly different twist on the original.
You forget 17, or was that on purpose?
And I think you mean he can beat anyone who's around the level of those characters and even that's questionable since his golden form is a energy drain and he haven't mastered it for obvious reasons.
Why would a movie make the idea better?
BBQMan
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Yeah but
He only has a only a want to be perfect he doesnt care what he has to do to get it. Going as far as trying to kill himself after not getting his way. At least frieza wants to survive.
darkmark1987
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Damn just read the spoilers
how much of an idiot are they making goku? Frieza would prefer the universe is erased and will attempt to kill them all. Hope it just 1 ep thing and buu wakes up
It is specific in that Black is a god in a mortal shell. So it is kind of loophole abused. And Kais are gods. They're lower gods.
Fulminator
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This whole sound track thing is confusing me lol
GuessMyUserName
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Now we're talkin'
I still feel that choosing Yamcha would have been a brilliant strategic move.
The enemy would be unable to keep themselves from killing him, for the urge to kill Yamcha is impossible to contain, and therefore get themselves disqualified according to the tournament's rules.
Admiral Woofington
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I'm being trolled with Cell in there right? lol
no
Chaotic-Strike
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Hey guys, what's going on in here........oh.
I'm fine with this plot development considering all the things they managed to pull just to get the side characters relevant again. I totally called them using Baba to revive him as well.
At least now ROF has some actual justification for existing now.
At least now ROF has some actual justification for existing now.
WhiskeyDiver
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Now we're talkin'
Who's that guy in the lower left hand corner?
Oh wait. It's that guy. He shall be renamed, "Moderately Effective Android Except Against Golden Hair Kids With One Broken Arm Cell."
MEAEAGHKWOBA Cell for short, because in the end...he obviously wasn't all that perfect.
Edit: When I first saw that episode, it was the Funimation dub with him saying "I am Perfect!" in a low tone. To me, that frame of animation almost makes it look like he's laughing maniacally at his own death. Of course he was in the process of being atomized at the time, so I guess I can't hold that one against him.
Chaotic-Strike
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FreeMufasa
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Yessssssssass friezas back!!!
And it makes sense buu's sleeping again. He does whatever the fuck he wants.
And it makes sense buu's sleeping again. He does whatever the fuck he wants.
GuessMyUserName
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But he wanted to participate! He was hyped and training for it!
KZXcellent
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Years ago I saw a YouTube comment that joked that his last words were "I love cornbread!" That scene has been ruined.
Improved.
Chaotic-Strike
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Freeza coming back just gives the Pride Troopers more ammunition to hate Universe 7.
BladeoftheImmortal
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I think the reason cell can't come back is because Cell is literally gone. Gero made a biological android, not from a human or being that previously had a soul. I think Cell just didn't have one and therefore didn't go to hell/heaven. He was just disintegrated completely and that's that. Just like 16. there was no coming back.
EDIT: Bull has been training non-stop since exhibition right. I could see why he fell asleep.
EDIT: Bull has been training non-stop since exhibition right. I could see why he fell asleep.
Are you telling me GT isn't real
GuessMyUserName
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BladeoftheImmortal
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You already knew it wasn't 
Undead Fantasy
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We don't know how much Goku held back against 17. They only certain thing is that 17 beat SSJ Goku.
Chaotic-Strike
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Actually when Cell self destructed back in the Cell Saga; King Kai said he would have appeared on Snake Way along with Goku had he died.
Special of a retelling of DB, DBZ, and Super from Toppo's perspective when?
roflwaffles
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hahahhahaha
I'm not even surprised. This is kind of the typical Super fan-service crap.
I'm not even surprised. This is kind of the typical Super fan-service crap.
Admiral Woofington
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Nah come on guys. Piccolo and Vegeta were redeemable because on the span of what we saw on the show they didn't do anything so horrible you couldn't make it better with time passing by.
but not Frieza, bro was murdering whole planets for the fun of it
BBQMan
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What do you think Vegeta was doing before he came to earth.
And Cell is still dead, never to be mentioned again and the gods don't even know he exists.
Plus, Frieza got his revenge on Gohan by turning him into cheese.
Held back or not, there is a big different between Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. Not to mention, 17 was able to block and keep up with Goku. So he is in the same tier as Goku at full power. It may be the different between Master Super Saiyan Goku and Perfect Cell, but the same tier nonetheless.
Chaotic-Strike
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He was just minding his own business until the evil Saiyan from U7 threatened all of existence.
Undead Fantasy
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We just don't and can't know that. Is Krillin Blue tier as well? He pushed back Goku's Kamehameha.
Krillin didn't block shots or fight hand-to-hand with Goku. Not to mentioned, Krillin was left shaking while 17 was holding back. There is no comparison between Krillin and 17, especially since the show itself made it clear that Krillin had no chance in hell against Goku, while with 17 it's left vague since both weren't going all and 17 wasn't flustered.
The Silver
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That's what gives Cell potential, the fact he knows he isn't perfect anymore, his pride has been shattered worse than Vegeta and he has another chance at life with knowledge that God ki exists and higher levels of power. He's not going to come back and immediately blow himself up cause he's mad at Gohan,(and it wouldn't kill him anyway) he'd be more likely to use the cunning and deviousness he had in his earlier forms and his Saiyan cells are gonna drive him to get stronger and finally prove himself "perfect"(which is what he truly wants, to prove it) he of all the villains would be the most likely to jump at the chance for this tournament. It would be poor writing to have Cell still going on about him being perfect and the ultimate warrior when you got someone like Beerus right there next to him, he'd have to change it up, he'd be the Namek saga Vegeta of the group and then move to Majin Vegeta once he thought he was strong enough.
And Frieza is suicidal when it comes to Goku, he keeps rebuffing every chance to escape with his life, even when he's cut in half on an exploding planet.
That said I am very interested in seeing how they handle Frieza, the grudge Vegeta holds and the Goku dynamic sounds fun to watch to me.
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And Frieza is suicidal when it comes to Goku, he keeps rebuffing every chance to escape with his life, even when he's cut in half on an exploding planet.
That said I am very interested in seeing how they handle Frieza, the grudge Vegeta holds and the Goku dynamic sounds fun to watch to me.
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A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
People tired of the saiyans but want Cell back so he can act like a saiyan
BladeoftheImmortal
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but king kai don't know shit.lol
The Silver
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People tired of the saiyans but want Cell back so he can act like a saiyan
who said I was tired of saiyans? I'm Champa.
BBQMan
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Disagree
Cell exists to become perfect its part of his programming you cant just break that.
Also Freeza didnt go suicidal he blew the planet up in a tactical move, he knew it wouldnt kill him and he can survive in space unlike the others.
Also Freeza didnt go suicidal he blew the planet up in a tactical move, he knew it wouldnt kill him and he can survive in space unlike the others.
People tired of the saiyans but want Cell back so he can act like a saiyan
Plus Cell is freaking boring. The only thing interesting would him losing his mind that 17 is so strong.
You're mistaking King Kai for Shin.
EmCeeGramr
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Nah, he's right.
With Piccolo, Goku spared him because he wanted a rival to fight, and basically said "Hey I saved the world, you guys can trust me." With Vegeta, he... wanted the same thing, but even then Krillin said "C'mon Goku, this guy isn't going to pull a Piccolo," which... was sorta correct, it took years for Vegeta to truly get to that point.
Freeza, on the other hand, has never been anything except pure irredeemable evil. He doesn't even have evil Vegeta's sense of pride and love of battle, he's just a vain murderous asshole who liked that he could hurt people and they couldn't fight back. Both in the Freeza saga and RoF, Goku comments on how he actually finds it a shame that Freeza is so irreparably rotten, because it means he can never be a true rival to Goku, only a threat to be destroyed. Goku didn't even want to finish his fight with Freeza the first time, he got bored, and when he tried to spare Freeza, it was with pained reluctance rather than enthusiasm like with Piccolo and Vegeta. When Goku thought he had killed Freeza, the look on his face (as in the manga and that RoF bonus scene with Future Trunks) is actually one of regret and almost pity, because he knew that Freeza, for all of the unmatched challenge he provided, couldn't be redeemed.
Freeza, on the other hand, has never been anything except pure irredeemable evil. He doesn't even have evil Vegeta's sense of pride and love of battle, he's just a vain murderous asshole who liked that he could hurt people and they couldn't fight back. Both in the Freeza saga and RoF, Goku comments on how he actually finds it a shame that Freeza is so irreparably rotten, because it means he can never be a true rival to Goku, only a threat to be destroyed. Goku didn't even want to finish his fight with Freeza the first time, he got bored, and when he tried to spare Freeza, it was with pained reluctance rather than enthusiasm like with Piccolo and Vegeta. When Goku thought he had killed Freeza, the look on his face (as in the manga and that RoF bonus scene with Future Trunks) is actually one of regret and almost pity, because he knew that Freeza, for all of the unmatched challenge he provided, couldn't be redeemed.
The Silver
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uh did you forget 16, an actual robot programmed to be a killing machine designed to murder Goku and yet he become a peace loving hippie who rebelled against that programming to fight Cell. Cell himself didn't seem to care all that much for rushing to kill Goku like it was some inescapble programming.
I said when Frieza was cut in half, you know his final attack when Goku was leaving and eveng ave him energy, Frieza was finished and still couldn't bring himself to let it go and fight another day. Then again in Super when Goku pointed out his flawed transformation, he was gonna let Frieza live again. Cell's earlier forms when he knew he wasn't perfect,
he had it in him to run away when shit got too hot.
he had it in him to run away when shit got too hot.
Icyflamez96
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That wouldn't be breaking his programming, would it? He'd realize that he's not the strongest and work to become "perfect" again.
Pankratous
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Not annoyed about
but definitely annoyed about
Frieza joining the team,
Buu getting the shaft again. Why couldn't it be someone shit, like Tien?
The Silver
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#nothingwrong
I guess they are setting up the narrative that Buu is 100% unreliable as a fighter from here on out
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