brandonh83
Banned
Are there any impressions? Saw that John Campea from Collider said it was the best since the first but that's all I've heard so far.
So Pirates 5 : Dead Men Tell No Tales/Salazar's Revenge is out next week, any hype?
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Faintest of faintly faint praise.
Grimm Fandango
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I honestly didn't mind the 2nd and 3rd movies that much, still enjoyed them. But I couldn't get more than halfway through the 4th movie without getting terribly bored.
So yeah not sure if I still have any love for more movies.
So yeah not sure if I still have any love for more movies.
Albino_Yeti
Member
I've always been surprised at the amount of hate the sequels get. I lovedddd the first 3 movies, and really enjoyed the 4th. The plot may get convoluted but it's just a good time with a cool setting and cool characters.
Plus Barbossa and Davy Jones are some of the coolest villains ever. I'd even say Jones is the Pirates version of Vader, though not quite as badass.
Plus Barbossa and Davy Jones are some of the coolest villains ever. I'd even say Jones is the Pirates version of Vader, though not quite as badass.
Razgriz-Specter
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Davy Jones is better than just about every MCU villain combined.
I don't know where this is coming from. Genuinely baffled. Even before they revealed he was a villain because he got dumped, he was this ridiculously incompetent jackass.
His only success was because Jack chose to die. Dude is the Thanos of the POTC verse, except at least Thanos is smart enough not to cut out his heart like a chump.
Grimm Fandango
Member
But Jones actually has a backstory and motivation to flesh him out. Pretty much all of MCU villains are evil just because.
brandonh83
Banned
Sure, depending on your stance on the others. I like 2 and 3 a lot and I'm just basically hoping it's better than the last one.
Davy Jones was great btw and easily better than most MCU villains. Actually... yep, all of them combined, that actually does check out IMO.
Jack Scofield
Member
Pirates 1 is a fantastic movie (I enjoyed 2 and 3 as well, but to a lesser extent). Everything after 3 has felt like a huge step down. I'm not looking forward to this at all, and I doubt I'll ever watch it.
I haven't seen a Pirates movies since the first or second, but nothing about the trailers say to me they are trying to appeal to new audiences or lapsed fans of the old films.
The trailers look great though, in a visual sense. The 3D is good. You can tell the production value is head and shoulders above so many epic period/fantasy blockbuster films of this type. Could still suck, the Pirates films have never stuck me as anything more than just decent and entertaining at best.
The trailers look great though, in a visual sense. The 3D is good. You can tell the production value is head and shoulders above so many epic period/fantasy blockbuster films of this type. Could still suck, the Pirates films have never stuck me as anything more than just decent and entertaining at best.
Davy Jones was amazing. And the MCU villain thing is getting old at this point.
I just cant believe he says Jones is sub MCU level how can he be so wrong
brandonh83
Banned
I don't know. He had a great theme too. Like, legendary. And was developed across two movies, was menacing, had good chemistry with Jack, commanded a fucking KRAKEN which ate the protagonist. Had a backstory and sympathetic side.
Ho boy if I could say that much about most MCU villains. Why are we even talking about this.
autumnleaf
Member
I'd say it goes like this
1 : 9/10
2 : 7/10
3 : 7/10
4 : 5/10
5 : 6/10
There is nothing really amazing about it.
Also no one get too excited about Paul McCartney it's a 30 second cameo.
brandonh83
Banned
I'll be frank, I don't get the hate for 2 and 3. My only problem is that they're a bit too long and some of the storytelling in 3 could have been ironed out better. Otherwise they're big fun adventure movies with great setpieces, characters and music.
And it got really dark, which I liked. Everyone I liked died lol. Still legit butthurt over Norrington.
And it got really dark, which I liked. Everyone I liked died lol. Still legit butthurt over Norrington.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Only 2 movies I kinda had problems with were
3: good stuff in there but kind of a mess.
4: just really really bland compared to the previous 3. smaller scale, terrible villain, poor use of mcguffin, etc. Mermaids were the best part.
I'd still take them over nothing, they are unique enough to get me every time.
3: good stuff in there but kind of a mess.
4: just really really bland compared to the previous 3. smaller scale, terrible villain, poor use of mcguffin, etc. Mermaids were the best part.
I'd still take them over nothing, they are unique enough to get me every time.
Albino_Yeti
Member
Oh man, his theme and the Kraken's theme are so friggen great. The Kraken is one of the best sea monsters on film too.
They are a letdown compared to the 1st one, but the 2nd one is ok and the 3rd one just drags on and on!
brandonh83
Banned
First is tighter but 2 and 3 had better stories and setpieces IMO. Like I said they do run a bit long but it wasn't a big problem for me.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Davy Jones, the Kraken and the ending themes are absolutely amazing.
I will never forget that amazing Kraken theme
brandonh83
Banned
Man I give a 3/10 to stuff like Transformers 2. Pirates 2 and 3 don't really have any flaws so ungodly massive that I can really understand that kind of rating.
Even if I didn't like them I would still think they're like, a 6 or 7 as the filmmaking, acting, effects, action, and characters are all pretty good.
I just don't see what's so grossly incompetent about them. Too long with some convoluted storytelling here and there doesn't = a 3/10 to me lol
Even if I didn't like them I would still think they're like, a 6 or 7 as the filmmaking, acting, effects, action, and characters are all pretty good.
I just don't see what's so grossly incompetent about them. Too long with some convoluted storytelling here and there doesn't = a 3/10 to me lol
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Yup.
Psychoward
Banned
Davy Jones was the best part about 2 and I didn't like that movie very much at all. smh
brandonh83
Banned
Just feels incredibly hyperbolic. People can have opinions, I just don't find that remotely reasonable. It's why there's that thing where people say either something is fucking terrible or incredible.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
I will say 3 I can understand,
2 though is just such a fun unique movie that I just can't.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
I'm honestly in even if just to hear that glorious theme on the big screen in a new adventure again. I'll judge it after seeing it.
This is how I am with most things, really. I mostly agree with what you're saying. It's why I give At World's End a 5; it's competently-made but its plot and characters did very, very little for me.
The reason I rate 2 so unusually low is that its plot and characters actively annoyed me for most of its runtime.
I might still be inclined to give it like a 4.5, though. Because you're right; the overall craft here is nice.
Well it is. Shocking revelation?
the_lizard
Member
Pirates of Carribean series last movie is coming this week but there is no hype or something Are you hyped for presumably last Pirates movie? People who saw earlier say its very good and hype and since this is last Pirates movie idk what to feel.
also holy shit 10 years after Worlds end and 6 years after last one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9cxhV3rDY0
I'll believe it when I see it. Disney isn't about to leave all that money on the table, I suspect.
If all trailers for all films were cut by the fine folks at Honest Trailers, then this could be a useful metric. But whether or not it would be as reliable as a sample size consisting of hundreds of (admittedly not random) people? Eh. Smart money's probably still that you'll agree with the aggregate whenever there's a divergence. And as for trusting a film's marketing over someone paid for their expertise and impartiality... Yeah, no. Especially if your decision to see a film is based solely on its quality (and not, for example, a predisposition to certain genres, directors, etc.).
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Agreed. The sequels are dumb fun - sure, they're not amazing, but they're not terrible either. The hyperbole surrounding the Pirates sequels online is something that I'll never understand.
So this took an interesting twist for me. My roommate insisted we watch the first film tonight because the net is down and he is, in fact, hyped for 5. I hadn't seen it since it came out, maybe a year or two later on rewatch. I don't remember.
A lot of the non-Jack humor did absolutely nothing for me, but Depp himself is marvelous. Also, Zoe Saldana is in it, and Elizabeth's father is the talented fellow who plays High Sparrow in Game of Thrones.
I liked it. I'd give it a 7 again.
A lot of the non-Jack humor did absolutely nothing for me, but Depp himself is marvelous. Also, Zoe Saldana is in it, and Elizabeth's father is the talented fellow who plays High Sparrow in Game of Thrones.
I liked it. I'd give it a 7 again.
Astral Dog
Member
ouch not very good so far :S
AlexFlame116
Member
I actually really like the way Salazar is voiced in the movie. Don't know why.
Pretty much my thoughts as well.
The 1st one was the best by far but I enjoyed the 3rd a lot. I did NOT like the last movie (4th)
Edit: I remember a lot of things from the first three movies, I dont remember a thing at all from the fourth one.
SpaceCadetKeon
Banned
I liked the first 3, but was underwhelmed by Stranger Tides, so I'm not excited at all tbh. My boyfriend's looking forward to it though.
flaxknuckles
Member
That last movie was straight garbo. Don't even remember what happened in it except that it had a mermaid.
