It's definitely more memorable than whatever random assortment of strings Rupert concocted for this movie.
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It's definitely more memorable than whatever random assortment of strings Rupert concocted for this movie.
JigglesBunny
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Oh yeah, the guy crying holding his stump leg and the village filled with dead women and children lying in a sea of mustard gas was just so playful and innocent.
Dont forget the ice cream scene
Banderdash
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The bit at the end where she says she 'believes in love' made me want to throw my popcorn.
It's just such a terrible, corny, line.
It's just such a terrible, corny, line.
Just listen to the rhythm of your heart
I know I know. You get my idea.
We're in such a sad state that love is not a believable belief. SMH. That's why the movie was made.
Yeah, for the most part the writing was pretty strong but there were one or two gag-worthy lines in there.
On the other hand, I'm not going to begrudge it too much if millions of kids around the world hear that line and actually believe it. We could use some of that right now.
Can't they make Steve Trevor a Green Lantern?
Chris Pine just works so well with Gal Gadot. I got so hyped in the intro and refuse to believe it was referencing the 2011 movie...
I have a feeling they're going to try again, especially since Green Lantern and his mythos is Geoff John's baby.
I've always had a soft spot for the Atom, but that's probably never going to happen. Too many comparisons to Ant Man at this point.
Can't they make Steve Trevor a Green Lantern?
Chris Pine just works so well with Gal Gadot. I got so hyped in the intro and refuse to believe it was referencing the 2011 movie...
I can't imagine they won't try and bring Pine back for the sequel. Not in like a "bring him back to life" sort of way, but maybe in Diana's lowest moment, she converses with her memory of him. Not unlike Uncle Ben appearing in Spider-Man 2.
Just got out of the Dolby AMC showing.
My Review: Best DCEU movie yet. Great movie. Damn....just a fun movie. Great performance by Gadot. She hit all the notes I want in Wondy. Solid performances by Pine & crew.
My only hope for the character is that Gadot continues to add muscle mass.
My 8yo daughter's Review: Wonder Woman kicked butt! Really good, but overwhelming at times. She also said the Dolby audio was too loud at times.
My Review: Best DCEU movie yet. Great movie. Damn....just a fun movie. Great performance by Gadot. She hit all the notes I want in Wondy. Solid performances by Pine & crew.
My only hope for the character is that Gadot continues to add muscle mass.
My 8yo daughter's Review: Wonder Woman kicked butt! Really good, but overwhelming at times. She also said the Dolby audio was too loud at times.
crisdecuba
Member
I hope that's not how they use him / bring him back. I would even prefer some "bring back to life" approach more.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Did this movie have an after credits scene? I got up after the animated credits ended and the plain white in black background credits started.
Amazing movie. In my top 5 best superhero movies ever. Better than most of Marvel's and certainly the best DC has put out since The Dark Knight.
Amazing movie. In my top 5 best superhero movies ever. Better than most of Marvel's and certainly the best DC has put out since The Dark Knight.
Yeah the movie isn't just good relatively when compared to the other DC movies, it's simply a good movie on its own right. I still don't give a single fuck about JL but I might watch it if only to see more WW.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
This movie was great. The scene with Diana seeing the baby and freaking out was the cutest thing ever.
Really love Ike's Gal Godot as Diana (from someone who's never read a WW comic or story before) and enjoyed Chris Pine's stuff. Kinda bummed out she didn't have a partially happy ending with him and that they did an ending pretty similar to Captain America 1, but overall enjoyed it.
Didn't think they did a good job making her look strong or w/ CG though.
Didn't think they did a good job making her look strong or w/ CG though.
That scene melted my heart.
Does the movie establish why Diana just decided to disappear for the better part of 100 years, until BvS begins? I thought that was going to be explained.
Why do the Amazons tell her "If you leave, you can never come back"? Are they going to kill her if she tries to return? Do they think she just won't be able to navigate her way back? Is she formally banished? Seems weird to raise the stakes like that without explanation.
Why do the Amazons tell her "If you leave, you can never come back"? Are they going to kill her if she tries to return? Do they think she just won't be able to navigate her way back? Is she formally banished? Seems weird to raise the stakes like that without explanation.
One of the best lines in the movie.
"If you leave, you may never come back"
And no, there was no explanation why Wondy decided to sit out WW2
When she was being thanked by all the villagers emphasized this. She's got a great smile.
Subpar Spatula
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She only entered the war because of Ares. She most likely learned due to Steve's actions that you can't just kill Hitler and things end. The world was more complex than good and evil so she would sit it out unless something occured only she could do.
You can also believe in people and still not help them.
crisdecuba
Member
Honest question: is it the line or the concept that bothers you? Because I struggle to think of a different way to say it. If it's the concept that bothers you well I don't know what to tell you.
I guess that's kind of the important point to keep in mind. If you constantly help people, you take agency away from them. Sure, if there's an airplane crashing, no one can do anything to stop that. But if you step into a war and win it for one nation or another, you're making a statement to the world. Could be Diana didn't want to live with the consequences of that.
Albino_Yeti
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The writers get all the credit for not including a "I am not a man" line when Steve was talking about how 'no man' can cross No Mans Land.
Wonder Woman sitting out Man of Steel simply doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
When people talk about how Marvel SUperheroes sitting out some of phase 2 doesn't make sense, it's not that they don't have a point, but there is a constant turmoil and strife happening within the world of Marvel. War Machine goes on missions that Tony has no idea about, Thor often has to take care of some other thing in some galaxy, etc. It's very believable for me then to say that Captain America just has other shit to do when someone kidnaps the president or Iron Man is busy with his own thing when Shield falls apart.
But MoS is pretty established to be a normal human world that faced it's first major threat with Zod's invasion. Short of Wonder Woman fighting another godlike entity offscreen in another hidden dimension ala Themiscyra, it's simply inconceivable that Wonder Woman would have had an equally critical mission or that she wouldn't have heard about the Kryptonians showing up.
Ambiguous phrasing I suppose. I took it to mean that she is having her access to the island revoked. Though you could just as easily hear it as the queen acknowledging that she might die or be unable to find the island again.
That's a pretty good point.
I can only imagine that at this point they'll have to ret-con something to justify it. Like, if they're really going to go all New Gods/Darkseid with this, then they can say that Zod was unknowingly the point man of the big, evil, overarching plot, but that some secondary plans were executed to try and keep "the Amazon" occupied, which backfired since she survived it and caused her to take more an interest in man's world again, leading up to the events in BvS where she finally re-debuts.
Otherwise, yeah, I agree with you, if she's got nothing better to do at that time, ignoring the Zod invasion is a head scratcher.
I actually always hated that part of the mythos. There's no real justification for why it must be that way. It just feels like a traditional rule meant to keep Themiscyra hidden, but that's rarely the case nowadays. It's not that it can't ever work, but most stories don't really justify it with any reasoning for why they would follow it. Diana wouldn't want to follow it. The queen wouldn't. Most amazons wouldn't want to see their princess go. Everyone hates it and there isn't a detriment established for what negative consequence would occur if it wasn't followed, so why are they all following it?
This woman who completely dropped her mission just to help out a single occupied village apparently decided "Nah, I can't really do much about these millions of Jews being murdered in concentration camps"???
BossDarkseid
Member
I'm...assuming I'm not misunderstanding that guy...eugh.
Apparently WW has made like 48mil USD so far? That's pretty great. Reccomended it to a bunch of friends and family and they're all pretty excited to see it in the coming days/week or so. It's still pretty fresh in the mind so I will have to think about this in a year or so but for yonks, people on here like Bobby and in general have talked about Christopher Reeve's Superman as being the embodiment of a superhero film for them. Happiness, hope/optimism etc.
It feels utterly bizzare because I never expected this in a million years but between the No Man's Land <---> Veld scenes and the general joy Gadot's Diana exudes, this might be it for me/my generation. And that's fucking awesome. I got a tad teary at one or two bits, and not in a way I was expecting. Like in a lot of films I feel the emotional resonance in a scene but for some reason this just "clicked".
I kept talking about wanting a Man of Steel 2 to semi-adapt All Star Superman because the Reagan scene never fails to gut punch me, but that would be expected...I enjoyed Wonder Woman comics before this but basically I wasn't expecting to get "why" people like Phil Jiminez, George Perez/other comics creators and people in general love her.
Any attempt to explain it will seem forced (since it is), so I'd suggest they just ignore it and leave the obvious truth hanging: the entire DCEU was bolted onto to MoS without any foresight.
Or this, since this is probably true.
Still kind of amazing to me to think that Warner Brothers had this huge legacy of DC heroes they were largely unwilling to do anything with collectively. And it took Marvel doing the Avengers to finally light the fire and make them go, "Wait... maybe we can take all of OUR individual superheroes and ALSO have them avenge the fallen in some kind of... I don't know... league... of justice. Can we do that? Can our comic properties carry that?"
It doesn't work in that scene just because of how heart broken everyone was about it, but in the context of Themiscyra being hyper isolationist after decades or centuries of being enslaved due to Hercules' betrayal (and remember, we're talking about a majority of the Amazonians having a living memory of these events) it makes perfect sense that Dana's choice to leave and aid the very people who enslaved them gets her banished.
Oh god, I forgot how terrible that was. Having them weirdly tipetoe around her sexuality in the first 30 minutes was a bad decision, I think. Like, did we really need to know that she understands how men and women fuck? Bringing up that stuff only raises more troubling questions about how Amazonian society works.
Good post. This was always the case. The "ties" MoS had to the DCEU were scarce, as if WB had no faith in the shared universe concept.
What's troubling about it? "We fuck." The end.
broncobuster
Banned
I'm...assuming I'm not misunderstanding that guy...eugh.
What a weird point to make when Superman fights Faora in Man of Steel. And anecdotally, folks cheered when Supes saved Christopher Meloni.
That means that the amazon's ideology is based in fear and hatred though.
Which...yeah, whatever, maybe, but it's just not a good look on the Amazons.
Personally I prefer if the mechanisms of themiscyra are such that once you leave it, it's impossible for the amazon to find it again. Meaning that once someone leaves, they're just gone. This is something that allows for some paranoia and disdain for the world of men, since people are always afraid of what they don't know, but it doesn't mean that their isolation is inherently based on misandry.
Someone doesn't believe in love
Not trusting people who literally used you, not even your ancestors, you personally, as a slave does not make you hateful or a misandrist.
She "may" never return.
Tad different from "can" never return.
I'd guess that Themyscira just isn't that easy a place to find. And likely not rooted to one specific location on Earth.!
BossDarkseid
Member
Eh, not really. I mean they said the whole point is they don't give af if people think its corny because if people want to call a non-poetic (i mean without making it into a needlessly grandiose metaphor) way of saying compassion, hope, etc etc...so be it. Saying "I believe in the good of people" sounds like its trying to say one thing but is afraid of people not liking the useage of love.
Although I can imagine my Dad seeing the film and groaning "Pass me a bucket" at that part
He likes to think of himself as romantic but have a scene about romance/love/feelings in a film and its all <_< >_>Zod's invasion, the actual attack, takes place over a few hours. We see the lead up to it but in universe it's very sudden and it's a scramble to respond. The easy story answer for why no one else showed up is because of how fast it starts and ends. Doomsday is also just as quick in regard to when he shows up and when he's dealt with.
How can one woman have such a badass game face AND the warmest smile on earth???????