Doctrine Dark
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This is why E3 is so important. Capcom had better bring it with gameplay, info, artwork, and what we can expect in Sep.
I'm just hoping my hype can be restored.
I'm just hoping my hype can be restored.
Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread
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TRUE ORDER
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Those previous artworks were really nice. If the picture with Ryu, IM, CM and X ends un being the cover, I will be more dissapointed with the game lol
Jawmuncher
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They can salvage that image if they add other characters to it.
It's MARVEL VS CAPCOM not Iron Man & Captain Marvel vs Ryu & Megaman.
It's MARVEL VS CAPCOM not Iron Man & Captain Marvel vs Ryu & Megaman.
TRUE ORDER
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A delay would bring more hope to the game, for me at least.
It feels like over -9000 hype now after the leak...
Doctrine Dark
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I just get an empty feeling looking at that art.
If it is, I'm not buying until I can get a 40+ character roster that includes Phoenix Wright for half the current price
TRUE ORDER
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We need Shinkiro back!
So many good things are gone this time around...
I doubt it'd even be comparable to Injustice 2.
If they somehow pull off an amazing story with tons of modes, perhaps the roster size could be accepted.
TRUE ORDER
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Maybe they should do a beta and get feedback on the game before the release.
Frost Walrus
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This is probably going to be the cover cause Capcom is on a budget. Everything else you are asking for either isn't there or will be limited in some capacity or another due to the budget and/or this game being rushed.
The one thing that keeps me from thinking that can be the final cover is that Iron Man might be the only 100% recognizable face there to the general public.
I don't think gameplay will even be the issue it will probably be content and roster that will kill the enthusiasm. Most people came to terms with the 2v2, no assists, and the gem system pretty fast. Hell pretty much everybody in the know came to terms with the no X-Men and FF4 and they still found a way to disappoint.
Jawmuncher
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Fixed the Box Art
Seriously. It'd be absolutely crazy if at the very least Spider-Man and (whoever) didn't end up on the cover.
Ryu & Iron Man are both incredibly recognizable, Marvel is really trying to push Captain Marvel, and Capcom probably said well Megaman is good enough to even it out.
TRUE ORDER
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Well, you have a point there. The gameplay could be fun but the roster is what's lacking something.
Doctrine Dark
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Capcom needs to put the soul back into their fighting games. They just don't have it anymore. The mechanics is one thing, but presentation is another.
Fixed the Box Art
I love it.
TRUE ORDER
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E3 is just around the corner, we'll have to wait a little longer and see what happens with the game.
But but... I wanted more characters hahah.Fixed the Box Art
Fixed the Box Art
Perfection. Can't wait to see the Ultimate version box art.
Yep. SFV is actually a really good and fun fighting game when it comes down to the actual gameplay. It was everything around it from the content to the presentation of the game that was its downfall. They haven't been right since UMVC3. SFXT & SFV had their issues one way or another and MVC:I seems to be on the same path.
I don't know why Capcom is rushing things. They rushed SFV and saw the inital response and instead of them to learn from it they rush MVC:I out even quicker. Also just by looking at the roster you can tell they are heavily relying on DLC which is an asshole move to do especially for a returning fighting game.
sixteen-bit
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Fixed the Box Art
lol i hope someone prints this and uses it as a custom cover
NoizyChild
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Jesus Christ, all this doom & gloom around here is depressing.
See y'all next week.
See y'all next week.
Karsticles
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It's a roster thread that had the roster spoiled, and it turned out to be underwhelming. The people who will actually play the game for more than a month will be happy in 2 weeks.
TRUE ORDER
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Don't really know if it will be different next week.
It's an apples and bananas sort of situation. I wanted Black Panther, but figured he would come eventually, so I'm waiting now for the inevitable MVCI 2.0 that will come in 6-8 months down the road.
NoizyChild
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Shit, I'll be happy next week when I get to try it out at CEO.
Doctrine Dark
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Some speculated that Marvel might be why it's coming so early, but I'm not sure what to think about that.
But yeah, it seems like they're going to go all-out with DLC. I understand that not all MVC3 characters would return, but holding out the majority of the fan favs (Phoenix Wright, Wesker, Vergil, Asura, etc) for DLC is whack. Like someone said, X, Jedah, and Monster Hunter were likely used to rope people in initially. The other characters will be released down the line to keep them around.
We'll see how that goes. I'd love to be wrong about everything, btw.
TRUE ORDER
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It seems that there's going to be 0 artwork and only the CG models/renders...
klabautermann
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SFV did the same thing. I know we can finally render out full characters and don't need illustrations to see what they actually look like anymore, but good artwork does wonders for anything man. It'd be a real shame if this game got none of that, especially since it's so prevalent with past games in the VS series and totally sells the older games by itself.
Mr. Smiley
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I'm expecting we'll get some official unofficial art from the usual crop of Capcom artists, but probably won't be tangibly attached in any way to the game.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I second this. It's irritating that people are being depressed because they doesn't get their favorite characters but people always find new mains eventually. I just felt that this thread isn't a speculation, it has become a whinefest. Instead of complaining, it wouldn't hurt to be optimistic and discuss about upcoming newcomers' movesets or would certain characters get new moves? Or discuss about upcoming 5 DLC characters that we have no single idea about. I still think it's going to be Ms. Marvel, Black Panther, Loki/Daredevil/Punisher, Asura, Gene and Sigma.
P.S. people asking for delays or unrealistic changes simply don't understand how development works.
SFV actually did get Shinkiro art.
Likewise, the guy who did Third Strike: Online Edition's art (Artgerm) was contracted by Capcom to do SFV character art after he did SFV Ryu & Ken on his own accord.
Artgerm is currently working on SFV Vega, in case you're curious.
TRUE ORDER
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Yeah, artwork is great, I'll miss it if there's no promotion on that side.
I try not to be that pessimistic with the game, but when you have that roster it's difficult (for me at least) to be happy with it. Yeah, it doesn't have some of the characters that I use but apart from that, it still lacks something to compensate...
Doctrine Dark
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I asked Damon (CPT guy) about Shinkiro and he said he wasn't sure.
At least that leaves the possibility open.
Shinkiro did the alternate costume art for Ryu, Chun, and Juri in SFV:
So we know he's still active.
We really need Shinkiro Infinite artwork, though.
At least that leaves the possibility open.
Shinkiro did the alternate costume art for Ryu, Chun, and Juri in SFV:
So we know he's still active.
We really need Shinkiro Infinite artwork, though.
TRUE ORDER
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Shinkiro should do the cover once again.
Waiting for Karin's turn.
Haven't seen some of those pictures, they look really good.
Waiting for Karin's turn.
Fixed the Box Art
God save this guy
Mr. Smiley
Member
I don't think I've seen Shinkiro's art with this type of flat coloring. It's a good look. Really speaks to his quality lineart.
sixteen-bit
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No way will Asura and Gene make the same DLC pack.
I wouldn't be able to handle that.
DR2K
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I'm not sure Capcom understands how game development works anymore
BassForever
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Step 1: announce game
Step 2: go dark on said game for a long time
Step 3: last minute hype train
Step 4: release a bare bones product
Step 5: release tons of dlc
TRUE ORDER
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Even when this thread was created people never really talked about movelist for characters. It was always roster discussion. I myself put forward some theoretical game play stuff about characters but people didn't even read it so why would anyone else bother? I have also made numerous posts about the game play in the past and people were more concerned about Chris making it in over Leon than the fact that Chris actually has less gun moves in this game than in Marvel 3. The priorities of this thread are obvious and the doom/gloom from a disappointing roster could have been seen a mile away.
It's not just about favorites not making it in. Dante is probably my favorite character of all time but I am well above this "I got mine so I am good" mentality. This is how we got Trump elected in the US, people only concerned for themselves and not looking at the bigger picture.
The roster isn't just the main cause of the doom and gloom. This reminds me of how the DMC fans got scapegoated because of the Dante redesign (ie. White hair) when the problems with that game were more widespread than just a character design. The roster in the game is just one problem, here are other things that people are concerned with:
*The release date makes no sense. It's well past the tournament season meaning by the time this game gets played at EVO a lot of hype will be lost around it. It's also not really in either the holiday season or early in the years when games seem to flourish. The release date is suspect as hell to anyone who follows gaming in general.
*The idea of selling a half baked roster and then selling the rest as DLC is a scummy practice for competitive fighting games. It has slowly escalated to this point and IMO Marvel Infinite is looking to be the worst culprit of this is practice yet. People are very right to wait a year or two for an all in one DLC package for cheap.
*The game play has taken quite a hit from Marvel 3. Maybe the Tag and Stone systems make up for it but it's really a gamble at this point. I personally am optimistic but I don't think it will be a significant jump from Marvel 3. Team making is a big part of the VS series, assists are also very important and so is high mobility. Mobility seems nerfed in this game as the focus seems to be more on the ground. This is probably the least of my concerns for the game but it is still a concern, it's possible that the game might be a bump down from previous Marvel games.
*The arts and visuals are bland making the game far less striking than Marvel 3. I don't know what they are doing here but the game looks rough. Hopefully this improves over time as it should but man the combination of that pseudo realistic art, bland effects and terrible UI... it's no surprise people think it looks like a phone game.
*Capcom's pedigree has been shot as of late. They have made numerous blunders in this genre and so far this game has not shown to curb those issues at all.
*The game's content modes look very vanilla. Nothing really stands out at the moment, it's all regular stuff that should be in the game. The story mode doesn't seem anything to get excited over especially if SFV is any indication. Nothing about this game looks to be on the polish or quality of IJ2 so expecting a campaign on that level is fooling yourself.
*Everything about this game looks like a step down from Marvel 3 and Marvel infinite is reusing so many assets from that game. It should have blown away Marvel 3 but instead it looks like it's re-purposing its carcass for a quick buck and all you are getting is a husk of its former self.
I don't want this game to be bad, I don't want this game to be just good either... I want this game to be great as I know this series of capable of being. I am a super fan of this series and it takes A LOT to curb my enthusiasm for this game but Capcom is trying really hard on all fronts.