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[JonnyDBrit]

You know what gets me the most? And the thing that never (or at least rarely) gets brought up about this? That this was state money, TAXPAYERS money that built the utility industry, water, gas, electricity, strategic fuel pipeline, British Rail, forestry commission, Eurostar, Royal Mail etc etc AD FUCKING NAUSEUM.

It wasn't the government's to sell off. These all belonged to the people and in many cases should have remained so.

I don't know what more politicians (left and right) don't say this. This was not yours to sell. It was ours and you had no right.

For the Tories, it's pretty obvious - a lot of these sell offs have been to friends, party donors, or otherwise people of the same broad social standing. Plus since they tend to be the ones behind such things, they have to remain committed to those choices otherwise what was the point?

With the likes of Labour, I imagine in part the fear has long been backlash about the likely level of expenditure they would have to make in order to things re-nationalised. Yes, the decision would almost certainly be in the national interest, make most sense in the long run, and is fundamentally the moral choice given the nature of such services, but they'll get crap about big government interfering with the market and being fiscally irresponsible, with the Tories threatening to undo any effort they make if and when they back into power. So why even bother? Or so they think.

 

[Jackpot]

Postal Office sale was a disaster.

Not just that but his response to it showed he didn't have a shred of integrity.

 

[Royal_Phalanx]

lol

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/876318564302675968

On a referendum to accept or reject the final Brexit deal when negotiated:

Support: 48%
Oppose: 43%

(via @Survation, 16-17 Jun)

 

[Billy_Pilgrim]

Yes we really do. It was absolutely a shameless transfer of public assets at below cost to the Tories donors.

Never mentioned once by a single Labour voter to me during the campaign.

 

[Acorn]

Never mentioned once by a single Labour voter to me during the campaign.

The acceptance of Thatchers brand of capitalism has held this country back for 30 years.

It is seen as the default position when infact it is damned radical, especially in an environment that the govt owns fuck all but let's the French govt run our gas supply etc

 

[Theonik]

Never mentioned once by a single Labour voter to me during the campaign.

The Tories have done so much damage in the last 7 years and hell even moreso in the 18 years of Thatcherism that it's hard to keep track at this point. It's the Trump approach where if you do enough nasty things at once people stop keeping track. I would expect they are doing some of the fire cockups on purpose to hide the big NHS yardsale.

That was the absolute zenith of neoliberalism.

More please!

That will be in a few months when they begin selling bits of the land of Kings Cross Hospital and giving them to their friends to make them into vacant luxury apartments.

 

[cartesian]

I raise you the train sell off that Major only put in his manifesto because he didn't expect to win. Ofcourse he did and we've paid and paid ever since.

As a transport policy nerd, the privatisation of British Rail still makes me sad. BR in the early 1990s was really going places. I mean, there's no getting around the fact that it was poorly managed for decades, and also that many aspects of the railways have improved under the current regime, so I'm lukewarm about renationalisation today. But I think it's kind of rotten luck for BR to have been torn up at the very moment it was finally getting its act together, ensuring that the folk memory of it would be stodgy sandwiches and leaky Pacers rather than the emerging successes of the business sectors. I suspect if InterCity and NetworkSouthEast had survived another couple of decades, they'd have matured into quite popular and profitable railway businesses, and we'd regard modern British Rail as a well-run railway.

Alas, it was not to be. Things have definitely improved since privatisation but other opportunities were missed. I still think the railways would benefit from a strategic leadership body run at arms-length from the DfT; an equivalent to NHS England. Perhaps some kind of British Railways Board...

 

[Audioboxer]

Hmm aint going to buy much?

My fucking Amiibo collection is probably worth £5,500. Which is sad, but yeah.

 

[Acorn]

As a transport policy nerd, the privatisation of British Rail still makes me sad. BR in the early 1990s was really going places. I mean, there's no getting around the fact that it was poorly managed for decades, and also that many aspects of the railways have improved under the current regime, so I'm lukewarm about renationalisation today. But I think it's kind of rotten luck for BR to have been torn up at the very moment it was finally getting its act together, consigning the memory of it to stodgy sandwiches and leaky Pacers rather than the emerging successes of the business sectors. I suspect if InterCity and NetworkSouthEast had survived another couple of decades, they'd have matured into quite popular and profitable railway businesses, and we'd regard modern British Rail as a rather well run railway. After all, in Germany hunger to see DB broken up, or ICE routes split into franchises.

Yep, honestly anything such as rail, that is a natural monopoly should be govt run. I can't believe that's a radical position.

 

[EmiPrime]

My fucking Amiibo collection is probably worth £5,500. Which is sad, but yeah.

When the pound collapses even further and the only way to buy a plane ticket out of the country is a mint condition wool Yoshi we'll have the last laugh.

 

[Protome]

When the pound collapses even further and the only way to buy a plane ticket out of the country is a mint condition wool Yoshi we'll have the last laugh.

Dammit, I knew using my wool Yoshi as a stressball/office weapon would come back to bite me.

 

[Acorn]

When the pound collapses even further and the only way to buy a plane ticket out of the country is a mint condition wool Yoshi we'll have the last laugh.

How much will I be able to bargain with my ocarina?

 

[tomtom94]

Cable is the right man to lead the Lib Dems. Unfortunately now is not the right time for him to be leader as he will be out-lefted by Corbyn and crucified on what he did in the coalition.

 

[EmiPrime]

Dammit, I knew using my wool Yoshi as a stressball/office weapon would come back to bite me.

I'm calling PETA.

How much will I be able to bargain with my ocarina?

That one is private jet tier.

 

[Audioboxer]

When the pound collapses even further and the only way to buy a plane ticket out of the country is a mint condition wool Yoshi we'll have the last laugh.

The yarn ones are some of my favourites. To be fair, I have fallen behind in collecting now as I had a self-inflicted intervention as to "why am I buying this shit?". Haven't bought an amiibo in a while. Considering all the reprints its hyperbole and for humorous effect to even say £5,500 worth... *I think* There are times I consider selling it all, but I own plenty of gaming junk, plastic figures, special edition tat and what not. I'm sure it will all be worth something... someday.... /s

In other news

https://twitter.com/LADFLEG/status/876081182861033473

Seen this retweeted. Worth a listen. I think that Twitter account is just a typical "lad" one. It's the video that's funny anyway. Damage control on max.

Funerals cost double that, some fam have lost more then one member. It aint nearly enough.

Yup.

 

[Beefy]

My fucking Amiibo collection is probably worth £5,500. Which is sad, but yeah.

Funerals cost double that, some fam have lost more then one member. It aint nearly enough.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

Per family instead of per person is shitty too.

 

[Audioboxer]

lol

Protestors have the best signs at times.

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

Seen this retweeted. Worth a listen. I think that Twitter account is just a typical "lad" one. It's the video that's funny anyway. Damage control on max.

It's not. LAD started out as "Loyalists Against Democracy", a parody account pointing out some of the mad things that Loyalists were doing, but then it became a more general account looking at Northern Ireland politics. Not "laddy" at all.

 

[Billy_Pilgrim]

It's not. LAD started out as "Loyalists Against Democracy", a parody account pointing out some of the mad things that Loyalists were doing, but then it became a more general account looking at Northern Ireland politics. Not "laddy" at all.

Flegs is a good indicator towards the level of bants involved.

Can't wait for the first UK wide fleg crises. Thought it was a bit of cloth on a building? Strap in.

 

[Audioboxer]

It's not. LAD started out as "Loyalists Against Democracy", a parody account pointing out some of the mad things that Loyalists were doing, but then it became a more general account looking at Northern Ireland politics. Not "laddy" at all.

Eeek, my bad, sorry. Just had a quick peak as I always like to check twitter sources of retweeted content. There's shit on twitter like LADBible and other LAD stuff that can sometimes be a bit dodgy with their content. Bantz is all good if it's largely aimed where it is deserved. The above tweet definitely a good use of viral means to point out hypocrisy and lies.

Speaking of bantz, Scotlands marmite on May

https://twitter.com/UKDemockery/status/875958341868060673/video/1

 

[score01]

Cable is the right man to lead the Lib Dems. Unfortunately now is not the right time for him to be leader as he will be out-lefted by Corbyn and crucified on what he did in the coalition.

Had a lot of respect for Cable. Consistently through out the financial crisis he seemed to be the only one who knew / said the right thing. It all changed almost in an instant when they got into power.

 

[Theonik]

Flegs is a good indicator towards the level of bants involved.

Can't wait for the first UK wide fleg crises. Thought it was a bit of cloth on a building? Strap in.

This is all I know about the fleg conundrum. A UK wide version of that? I almost want to see it.

 

[JonathanEx]

BBC Two now for one year on, Boris v Theresa - the battle for Number 10. Docu-drama about the 20 day leadership battle, with interviews and dramatised scenes.

 

[Billy_Pilgrim]

BBC Two now for one year on, Boris v Theresa - the battle for Number 10. Docu-drama about the 20 day leadership battle, with interviews and dramatised scenes.

Cheers for this, it's delightfully crap and catty plus recent events have given it a fantastic tragicomedy tone.

 

[DavidDesu]

Saw this... "Grenfell survivors told they will be declared "intentionally homeless" if they refuse relocation outside of London https://twitter.com/truthsayer86/status/876271709153890304 "

And someone clarifies what that means further down: "for those of you who don't know, being "intentionally homeless" means you are automatically ineligible for majority of homeless services."

https://twitter.com/danhancox/status/876389822713278464


If that actually happens... wow. Absolute scum. The Tories need forcibly removed from power at this rate, clinging on for dear life and trying all they can to do over our democracy.

 

[Maledict]

Saw this... "Grenfell survivors told they will be declared "intentionally homeless" if they refuse relocation outside of London https://twitter.com/truthsayer86/status/876271709153890304 "

And someone clarifies what that means further down: "for those of you who don't know, being "intentionally homeless" means you are automatically ineligible for majority of homeless services."

https://twitter.com/danhancox/status/876389822713278464


If that actually happens... wow. Absolute scum. The Tories need forcibly removed from power at this rate, clinging on for dear life and trying all they can to do over our democracy.

I'm still confused over this, as my borough is providing emergency housing assessment officers starting tomorrow morning to assist K&C in handling the housing issue, and there's been multiple London-wide housing meetings to discuss how London can resolve this. I just don't see how anyone would be told to move to Preston given all of these things.

EDIT: Worth noting that this is purely on the local council, not the national government. And there's unfortunately very little chance of K&C ever going for anyone other than conservatives even with this scandal hanging over them.

 

[Audioboxer]

Saw this... "Grenfell survivors told they will be declared "intentionally homeless" if they refuse relocation outside of London https://twitter.com/truthsayer86/status/876271709153890304 "

And someone clarifies what that means further down: "for those of you who don't know, being "intentionally homeless" means you are automatically ineligible for majority of homeless services."

https://twitter.com/danhancox/status/876389822713278464


If that actually happens... wow. Absolute scum. The Tories need forcibly removed from power at this rate, clinging on for dear life and trying all they can to do over our democracy.

u wot m8?

They are leading Scotland's fightback

Is Davidson still MIA amidst her party falling to pieces?

 

[Acorn]

u wot m8?

They are leading Scotland's fightback

Is Davidson still MIA amidst her party falling to pieces?

She's arranging a photo op with a clown car as we speak.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Saw this... "Grenfell survivors told they will be declared "intentionally homeless" if they refuse relocation outside of London https://twitter.com/truthsayer86/status/876271709153890304 "

And someone clarifies what that means further down: "for those of you who don't know, being "intentionally homeless" means you are automatically ineligible for majority of homeless services."

https://twitter.com/danhancox/status/876389822713278464


If that actually happens... wow. Absolute scum. The Tories need forcibly removed from power at this rate, clinging on for dear life and trying all they can to do over our democracy.

That's bullshit right there.

 

[JonnyDBrit]

Saw this... "Grenfell survivors told they will be declared "intentionally homeless" if they refuse relocation outside of London https://twitter.com/truthsayer86/status/876271709153890304 "

And someone clarifies what that means further down: "for those of you who don't know, being "intentionally homeless" means you are automatically ineligible for majority of homeless services."

https://twitter.com/danhancox/status/876389822713278464


If that actually happens... wow. Absolute scum. The Tories need forcibly removed from power at this rate, clinging on for dear life and trying all they can to do over our democracy.

Mentioned as much previously. Like, seriously people, watch 'How to get a Council House'. It's fucking eye opening on the state of the housing crisis.

 

[PJV3]

BBC Two now for one year on, Boris v Theresa - the battle for Number 10. Docu-drama about the 20 day leadership battle, with interviews and dramatised scenes.

You would think the actors are over doing the mutual dislike, then the real politicians start talking.

 

[JonathanEx]

You would think the actors are over doing the mutual dislike, then the real politicians start talking.

It's a wonderful form of upper-class bitchiness.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

Edit: old tweet. Mobile here thought it was the last page.

 

[Uzzy]

In tomorrow's Telegraph.

 

[daviyoung]

In tomorrow's Telegraph.

Yep

 

[JonnyDBrit]

In tomorrow's Telegraph.

Pretty damn much.

 

[pswii60]

In tomorrow's Telegraph.

That's exactly how I imagine it, spot on.

 

[JonathanEx]

I misread 'Fruit Pickers' as 'Fruit Fuckers'

 

[Spaghetti]

In tomorrow's Telegraph.

Oof. Definitely not untrue, though.

Shout out to Martin Rowson's latest cartoon in The Guardian, where EU officials are communicating with May's political ghost via Ouija board.

 

[liquidtmd]

Tomorrow's meeting

10am

"Will you pay us a divorce bill"?

Davis: "no"

"Ok cool. Coffee everyone!"

10:02am meeting ends

 

[BlazingDarkness]

So the council at Kensington are giving the homeless survivors just ten pounds. Wtf is this?

 

[Maledict]

So just to confirm, the 5500 is an emergency payment only - its not compensation, or to replace anything lost etc. It's 500 in cash, and 5000 to a bank account, on monday, to survivors to help them through the next couple of weeks only.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

So the council at Kensington are giving the homeless survivors just ten pounds. Wtf is this?

What the fuck?

 

[CCS]

So, it's Brexit Negotiations Day. Who's excited?

Spoiler

Oh god this is going to be awful

 

[Dirtyshubb]

What the fuck?

Apparently at first the council were putting them in hotels and giving them £10 a day.

They have now said that they will be given £5500 to cover their costs.

It takes time to sort of course but the response to this has been a shambles and highlighted that we have problems at every stage - preventative and post support.

 

[SuperBowser]

So the council at Kensington are giving the homeless survivors just ten pounds. Wtf is this?

Remember. If a single family had ever gone through this ordeal, this is the disdain they would receive from any council throughout England. The system has been broken for so long.

 

[QuicheFontaine]

So just to confirm, the 5500 is an emergency payment only - its not compensation, or to replace anything lost etc. It's 500 in cash, and 5000 to a bank account, on monday, to survivors to help them through the next couple of weeks only.

Yeah but boo

 

[kmag]

It seems clear Kensington and Chelsea's disaster response plan was just to ask their well-heeled residents to return to their weekend houses in Cornwall, Oxfordshire or Surrey. Or if failing that to buy Richmond.

 

[Horsefly]

Is there an official Brexit Negotiation thread I can lurk?