Transformers: The Last Knight review thread

Holy shit!!!

I hate Revenge of the Fallen so that is insanity!

2 is bad but if I were forced to choose to rewatch either, I would literally beg for it to be 2. I'm talking begging for mercy here. They share a lot of the same problems but I've seen 2 a few times. The only reason I would ever watch this again would be if I were with a group of friends with tons of alcohol just to watch them react to how fucking bad it is.

I'm telling you. I had bad shit to say about The Mummy a few weeks ago, but this thing is an aircraft carrier of shitty cinema. It's like the Trump administration of filmmaking.
 

Apharmd

Member
2 is bad but if I were forced to choose to rewatch either, I would literally beg for it to be 2. I'm talking begging for mercy here. They share a lot of the same problems but I've seen 2 a few times. The only reason I would ever watch this again would be if I were with a group of friends with tons of alcohol just to watch them react to how fucking bad it is.

I'm telling you. I had bad shit to say about The Mummy a few weeks ago, but this thing is an aircraft carrier of shitty cinema. It's like the Trump administration of filmmaking.

seconding everything this man said

y'all have no idea
 
Whatever, still going to see it at 8pm tonight. I suppose at this point its mainly out of nostalgic obligation.

Is there an actual problem though? Kids love it and it sells toys which is the only goal of these movies. Why should they change something thats a financial success for them.

I'm a big Transformers fan and theres no way I can deny that the franchise has grown in other areas because of these movies.

But I'd also be lying if I said I didn't enjoy these movies for what they are. summer explosion-fest films with giant robots. Look no further and you won't be disappointed.


I'm sorry for what I said earlier. I was always able to enjoy the first 3 movies. I even enjoyed the last movie in a special way. That may be because I love the TF franchise and I'm a collector, so I've always found some light in the movies.

This movie is complete and utter trash. I don't even know what the fuck I watched. Like, I can't even explain the story to anyone. Everything was so inconsistently edited. Things just cut from one scene to another. Absolutely no build up for anything. Things made no sense and I can't even pretend to explain them. Things that should be obvious my buddies and I where debating on what actually happened. I can't even right now.

The only good thing I can say about this is that Megatron looked really cool and had some really cool scenes and some of the voice acting was really good. Thats it.

I want 3 hours of my life back.

Seriously if the movies are DBZ characters this movie makes the others look like the Saiyans and this one is Yamcha. But we know deep down inside all the movie are Yamchas. But not any more. Its like the opposite of the Spider-Man 3 effect. This movie makes the others really, really good.
 

pixelation

Member
The reviews sound hyperbolic, i cannot believe that watching a movie can in anyway be similar to having a vasectomy done on you or anything remotely similar. People LOVE to hate on the Transformers movies so they exagerate everything to the extreme. I haven't seen it yet but honestly?, i've enjoyed every single Transformers movie that i've seen to varying degrees so i am sure i'll at least enjoy this new one somewhat.
 

caliph95

Member
I watched their review on their site already. So funny.
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The reviews sound hyperbolic, i cannot believe that watching a movie can in anyway be similar to having a vasectomy done on you or anything remotely similar. People LOVE to hate on the Transformers movies so they exagerate everything to the extreme. I haven't seen it yet but honestly?, i've enjoyed every single Transformers movie that i've seen to varying degrees so i am sure i'll at least enjoy this new one somewhat.

You do realize that these are just sayings, right? Like obviously watching a bad movie isn't like being hit by a car. It's an amusing way to express how much you disliked something, and this movie is not worth anyone's defense.

If you like it and the others, that's great, but after seeing this tonight it honest to god felt like the writers and Michael Bay were actively trying to make people say "hyperbolic" things about this movie.

You don't write/direct a film like this without having some sort of morbid, fucked up desire or agenda to shit on your audience.
 
One of the most insane productions decisions I've ever seen in a film: the aspect ratio changing literally a dozen times in a minutes, even during normal conversations. And this happens constantly in the movie.
 
One of the most insane productions decisions I've ever seen in a film: the aspect ratio changing literally a dozen times in a minutes, even during normal conversations. And this happens constantly in the movie.

Well thats because of IMAX mixed with regular. Dark Knight and all IMAX films have this.

It is really annoying tho.
 
Well thats because of IMAX mixed with regular. Dark Knight and all IMAX films have this.

It is really annoying tho.
This movie takes it to the next level. I'm not joking when I say it happens a dozen times in one scene, and during just normal conversations. The film would be on a close-up of Walberg in the large format, cut to a close-up of another person in a smaller format, and vice versa. It made no sense at all.

As far as I can recall, Nolan never did anything like this.
 
I'm almost tempted to submit myself to this cinematic torture to see if it's really as terrible as stated

Maybe that's the movie's real intent? To be so bad it attracts viewers through reverse psychology
 

neorej

ERMYGERD!
This movie takes it to the next level. I'm not joking when I say it happens a dozen times in one scene, and during just normal conversations. The film would be on a close-up of Walberg in the large format, cut to a close-up of another person in a smaller format, and vice versa. It made no sense at all.

As far as I can recall, Nolan never did anything like this.
But wasn't this filmed in all IMAX?
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I'm almost tempted to submit myself to this cinematic torture to se if it's really as terrible as stated

Maybe that's the movie's real intent? To be so bad it attracts viewers through reverse psychology

Kinda feeling the same way. But then I think back to squirming in my seat for over 2 hours during Revenge of the Fallen, in addition to falling asleep several times. If I do see this, I'll have to matinee it with another movie.
 
copypasta from Spoiler thread

My review of this movie;

What the fuck was this movie lol


i sincerely mean that in a positive way, kinda! i have a particular affinity for this series and Michael Bay as a filmmaker in general, this was probably the best one of the series, (of course you rate that on the Transformers Scale) and even the most that felt like the original G1 series, lots more robot interaction and screentime it seemed

but man, the Bayman saw this was his Totally For Sure Gonna Be His Last One and pulled out all the stops and got real WEIRD with it. Shit is bananas.

This a movie that has
Anthony Hopkins being part of a secret society who helped Transformers on Earth
Anthony Hopkins with a cane thats actually a machine gun
Anthony Hopkins with a Watch Transformer who is referred to as "The Watch That Killed Hitler" (the actual line in the movie)
Anthony Hopkins in general
Hot Rod being french
Megatron negotiating with lawyers (which leads into....)
.....Suicide Squad but with Decepticons
A psychotic ninja butler C3PO who fights off his urges of wanting nothing more than to murder things
Marky Mark becoming a member of a secret intergalactic order of Knights and able to will a giant-ass sword into existence that he only does once
Drunk Stanley Tucci as Merlin the wizard in ye olde times
Harriet Tubman being part of that Secret Society Who Helped Transformers On Earth
Steve Buscami as a Autobot salesman
Optimus Prime being EVILLLLL, for like 5 minutes

i might be making this sound wayyyyyyyyy cooler than it might actually be to some people, idk i'm just weird and enjoyed the hell out of this for it's absurdness
 
Kinda feeling the same way. But then I think back to squirming in my seat for over 2 hours during Revenge of the Fallen, in addition to falling asleep several times. If I do see this, I'll have to matinee it with another movie.
Good point

Might do it next week then, wipe the cinematic sludge from my eyes with Baby Driver afterwards
 
But wasn't this filmed in all IMAX?
I was seeing 98% being floated around. That's either a complete fabrication, or Michael Bay chose to "chop off" parts of the image during a fuck ton of the movie. It weirding me out so much I briefly wondered if it was a problem with my IMAX theater, but nope, I've seen other people on twitter mention it too.
 

duckroll

Member
I was seeing 98% being floated around. That's either a complete fabrication, or Michael Bay chose to "chop off" parts of the image during a fuck ton of the movie. It weirding me out so much I briefly wondered if it was a problem with my IMAX theater, but nope, I've seen other people on twitter mention it too.

It's just IMAX3D Digital Cams anyway.
 
I was seeing 98% being floated around. That's either a complete fabrication, or Michael Bay chose to "chop off" parts of the image during a fuck ton of the movie. It weirding me out so much I briefly wondered if it was a problem with my IMAX theater, but nope, I've seen other people on twitter mention it too.

He must have filmed with the new IMAX-branded cameras that improve the image quality but don't use the actual true almost-square/almost-4:3 aspect ratio.

I swear, none of the shots I saw used that entire screen.

It's just IMAX3D Digital Cams anyway.

Yeah that, thanks duckroll. :D
 

pixelation

Member
You do realize that these are just sayings, right? Like obviously watching a bad movie isn't like being hit by a car. It's an amusing way to express how much you disliked something, and this movie is not worth anyone's defense.

If you like it and the others, that's great, but after seeing this tonight it honest to god felt like the writers and Michael Bay were actively trying to make people say "hyperbolic" things about this movie.

You don't write/direct a film like this without having some sort of morbid, fucked up desire or agenda to shit on your audience.
Now i am really interested in watching this...
copypasta from Spoiler thread

My review of this movie;

What the fuck was this movie lol


i sincerely mean that in a positive way, kinda! i have a particular affinity for this series and Michael Bay as a filmmaker in general, this was probably the best one of the series, (of course you rate that on the Transformers Scale) and even the most that felt like the original G1 series, lots more robot interaction and screentime it seemed

but man, the Bayman saw this was his Totally For Sure Gonna Be His Last One and pulled out all the stops and got real WEIRD with it. Shit is bananas.

This a movie that has
Anthony Hopkins being part of a secret society who helped Transformers on Earth
Anthony Hopkins with a cane thats actually a machine gun
Anthony Hopkins with a Watch Transformer who is referred to as "The Watch That Killed Hitler" (the actual line in the movie)
Anthony Hopkins in general
Hot Rod being french
Megatron negotiating with lawyers (which leads into....)
.....Suicide Squad but with Decepticons
A psychotic ninja butler C3PO who fights off his urges of wanting nothing more than to murder things
Marky Mark becoming a member of a secret intergalactic order of Knights and able to will a giant-ass sword into existence that he only does once
Drunk Stanley Tucci as Merlin the wizard in ye olde times
Harriet Tubman being part of that Secret Society Who Helped Transformers On Earth
Steve Buscami as a Autobot salesman
Optimus Prime being EVILLLLL, for like 5 minutes

i might be making this sound wayyyyyyyyy cooler than it might actually be to some people, idk i'm just weird and enjoyed the hell out of this for it's absurdness
Okey now i am watching this!
Looks like the positive impressions are coming in now. The tide is turning! Yessss!

lololololololololol
 
There's a lot of aspect ratio switching throughout the movie. Like it happens just randomly during sequences. It's not like say a Nolan joint where the big scenes expand into full IMAX and then shrink after, it's like completely sporadic.
 

Jinroh

Member
I don't understand the hate for revenge of the fallen. The script heavily suffered because of the writer strike, but come on, you have to admit the movie has the best fights in the whole franchise.

The highway battle, the forest battle, the desert battle and many others. It's deeply fun to watch. I thought the third and fourth one were a snoozefest in comparison.
 
The script heavily suffered because of the writer strike

I don't buy this excuse because all five movies have shitty scripts and a script suffering from writer's strike doesn't excuse the plethora of junk in it. A writer's strike means that they can't work on it, not fill it up with bullshit, and that thing was full of bullshit.

It should mean pacing issues, or things being underdeveloped. Not horrible dialogue, terrible humor, an overlong runtime, the mom running around the campus high after eating pot brownies. The writer's strike has nothing to do with any of that. Just bad writing.

Some of it is entertaining, but for me it's more like it would be entertaining if I could pick bits out here and there and assemble it into something watchable.

I still maintain Dark of the Moon had a very solid second half because they drop the humor, there's very little dialogue, and solid action sequence staging/music. It basically just cuts the bullshit and delivers on what I at least actually want to see in these movies.

The rest of the franchise, including the first movie which people defend over the others which is just weird as hell to me, is pretty awful-- this new one being the cream of the crop in that regard.
 

Timu

Member
This a movie that has
Anthony Hopkins being part of a secret society who helped Transformers on Earth
Anthony Hopkins with a cane thats actually a machine gun
Anthony Hopkins with a Watch Transformer who is referred to as "The Watch That Killed Hitler" (the actual line in the movie)
Anthony Hopkins in general
Hot Rod being french
Megatron negotiating with lawyers (which leads into....)
.....Suicide Squad but with Decepticons
A psychotic ninja butler C3PO who fights off his urges of wanting nothing more than to murder things
Marky Mark becoming a member of a secret intergalactic order of Knights and able to will a giant-ass sword into existence that he only does once
Drunk Stanley Tucci as Merlin the wizard in ye olde times
Harriet Tubman being part of that Secret Society Who Helped Transformers On Earth
Steve Buscami as a Autobot salesman
Optimus Prime being EVILLLLL, for like 5 minutes

i might be making this sound wayyyyyyyyy cooler than it might actually be to some people, idk i'm just weird and enjoyed the hell out of this for it's absurdness
This sounds ridiculous as fuck, lol.

I don't understand the hate for revenge of the fallen. The script heavily suffered because of the writer strike, but come on, you have to admit the movie has the best fights in the whole franchise.

The highway battle, the forest battle, the desert battle and many others. It's deeply fun to watch. I thought the third and fourth one were a snoozefest in comparison.
But the action is the best thing about it...everything else isn't so good.
 
copypasta from Spoiler thread

My review of this movie;

What the fuck was this movie lol


i sincerely mean that in a positive way, kinda! i have a particular affinity for this series and Michael Bay as a filmmaker in general, this was probably the best one of the series, (of course you rate that on the Transformers Scale) and even the most that felt like the original G1 series, lots more robot interaction and screentime it seemed

but man, the Bayman saw this was his Totally For Sure Gonna Be His Last One and pulled out all the stops and got real WEIRD with it. Shit is bananas.

This a movie that has
Anthony Hopkins being part of a secret society who helped Transformers on Earth
Anthony Hopkins with a cane thats actually a machine gun
Anthony Hopkins with a Watch Transformer who is referred to as "The Watch That Killed Hitler" (the actual line in the movie)
Anthony Hopkins in general
Hot Rod being french
Megatron negotiating with lawyers (which leads into....)
.....Suicide Squad but with Decepticons
A psychotic ninja butler C3PO who fights off his urges of wanting nothing more than to murder things
Marky Mark becoming a member of a secret intergalactic order of Knights and able to will a giant-ass sword into existence that he only does once
Drunk Stanley Tucci as Merlin the wizard in ye olde times
Harriet Tubman being part of that Secret Society Who Helped Transformers On Earth
Steve Buscami as a Autobot salesman
Optimus Prime being EVILLLLL, for like 5 minutes

i might be making this sound wayyyyyyyyy cooler than it might actually be to some people, idk i'm just weird and enjoyed the hell out of this for it's absurdness

Jesus christ, I had to read all of those spoilers, and this now sounds like the greatest movie ever. I now MUST go to the theatres to see this LOL. So bad yet so good..
 
I don't understand the hate for revenge of the fallen. The script heavily suffered because of the writer strike, but come on, you have to admit the movie has the best fights in the whole franchise.

The highway battle, the forest battle, the desert battle and many others. It's deeply fun to watch. I thought the third and fourth one were a snoozefest in comparison.

We are on the same page. I will never forget Optimus absolutely WRECKING shit in that forest. It was an incredible scene. And when he says "You'll never stop at one. I'll take you all on!" Then the fucking music starts blasting in the theatre. OMG.

Revenge of the Fallen is one of the STRONGER transformers movies, second only to the first one.
 

takriel

Member
2 is bad but if I were forced to choose to rewatch either, I would literally beg for it to be 2. I'm talking begging for mercy here. They share a lot of the same problems but I've seen 2 a few times. The only reason I would ever watch this again would be if I were with a group of friends with tons of alcohol just to watch them react to how fucking bad it is.

I'm telling you. I had bad shit to say about The Mummy a few weeks ago, but this thing is an aircraft carrier of shitty cinema. It's like the Trump administration of filmmaking.
Why'd you watch 2 multiple times?
 

duckroll

Member
I don't understand the hate for revenge of the fallen. The script heavily suffered because of the writer strike, but come on, you have to admit the movie has the best fights in the whole franchise.

The highway battle, the forest battle, the desert battle and many others. It's deeply fun to watch. I thought the third and fourth one were a snoozefest in comparison.

Revenge of the Fallen has:
- The best cinematography of the series
- The best pure battles of the series
- The most color and landscape variety of the series

It also has:
- The worst logical flow by far
- The biggest waste of cool bot ideas
- Great balls of Devastator
- Holy twin racism

Source: I watched it 4-5 times.
 

Apharmd

Member
YALL ARE FUCKING MASOCHISTS

I SWEAR TO GOD

all of yall are like the humans who worked with decepticons in 3 and 4

"well we know they're bad and they'll stab us in the back and they have a history of being fucking evil but"

NO

NO BUTS, DON'T SEE THE MOVIE
 
I have like an extremely low bar for being entertained. Enjoying something is one thing, I actually want quality there, but just being entertained...I'll take spectacle

I want spectacle out of Transformers as well. I'd take enjoyment, but even asking just for spectacle has proven me ill five times now.

I'm just saying-- I'm the guy with the "he defends all blockbuster movies!" tag, and I think this is the worst movie I've ever seen in a theater.

There's harmless, fun spectacle, and then there's The Last Knight. There's spectacle, yeah, while Bay sits by you and spoon feeds you copious amounts of shit to go along with it.

Why'd you watch 2 multiple times?

Shit happens
 
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