Is it kinda interesting to see two notorious Showtime fighters get into the promo. But whose gonna be the "good" guy? They can't both flash money and Brian Hawk it.
Floyd is most definitely an extremely extremely stupid person. This is well documented. He has a long long history of angry and racist outbursts, where he says incredible stupid things, and doesn't understand there might be a backlash. If someone doesn't think Floyd is stupid they haven't been paying attention at all. He also after a fight in the ring admitted to injecting both his fists with xylocaine, a steroid painkiller, on live TV on HBO, but then at the press conference afterwards, not 20 mins later, claimed he never said that. Stupid. Just a few small examples.
Lets not forget that Floyd also got conned out of 15 million dollars by some scam artist named 3 Coma Joe, who promised him a get rich scheme in which he would turn 15 million into 5 billion. And why did he come back when he did, after his first retirement, when he ran off to avoid difficult opponents? Because he had an unpaid IRS tax bill of $6million and was facing prison. Floyd isn't exactly the sharpest tool around.
Also, think it's ridiculous to say Floyd is the most technically sound boxer. That's patently not true. Floyd can't fight on the inside. He clinches and uses his elbows when people come on the inside. Both are illegal, even clinching, hugging, or wrestling as per the rules. Once boxers started influencing and choosing the refs, at some point excessive clinching became a much more accepted part of boxing, that is often afforded to the hometown fighter.
Yeah, Floyd doesn't really have knock out power, because his hands have been completely gone for almost 15 years. That's why he only fights in Las Vegas its the only place where the steroid painkiller xylocaine is legal in sport, and because the Nevada Boxing Commission allows Floyd to do whatever he wants including cheating and using performance enhancing drugs.
The whole sequence of events that led to Floyd sucker punching Ortiz, who wanted out of the fight and probably could've gotten up - is a famous quiter - was because Ortiz was angry and frustrated Floyd was using his elbows to beat him up whenever he came in close, he complains about this to the ref during the fight and pleads for Floyd to be docked points. This is one of Floyds greatest tricks, his use of elbows to keep people from the inside is well known, and is completely illegal obviously.
Someone who doesn't have the skills to fight on the inside and only uses illegal techniques to survive on in the inside is not the most technically sound boxer ever, lol. And Victor Ortiz is not that good. Not a has been, a never was. Floyd's career is far too selective, which is why so many boxing fans don't think much at all of his undefeated career. If Floyd wasn't such a pussy that he had to retire twice to avoid opponents he would've had multiple losses.
Floyd is a woman beater, who rarely fights any interesting opponents. A useless and uninteresting man. His craft is boring and depends on cheating techniques and soft opponents. And no, hardcore boxing fans don't really tune in to watch Floyd. That is an utter myth. Floyd's big numbers all come from fighting big name opponents, usually faded old big name opponents. His numbers come from the opponent, and from a decent African America base, as proved by his last fight when he got very very low numbers, relative to his normal numbers. Floyd never really broke out of that, never carried a PPV through just his name.
The best fight of the year is only a few weeks after this garbage fight, Canelo - GGG. Floyd not only doesn't care about boxing, he seems intent on destroying it, that stupid, selfish piece of shit. One of the biggest and most important fights for boxing in years, Canelo - GGG, a fight that would bring in more casuals into boxing, he is cockblocking with a fight that is sure to turn hundreds of thousands of potential fans off. Floyd is such a cancer on the sport.
IF he can lay a glove on Floyd which isnt going to happen. There I said it. I think Conor isnt going to hit Floyd in the head once.
I mean it's pretty wrong from the first statement. Conor is a counter puncher, but he is by no means a defensive fighter. He absolutely pressures and bullies his opponents into the counter opportunities, instead of waiting for them
I mean it's pretty wrong from the first statement. Conor is a counter puncher, but he is by no means a defensive fighter. He absolutely pressures and bullies his opponents into the counter opportunities, instead of waiting for them
As someone who barely watches the stuff leading up to the actual fight night I could give a shit about two egomaniacs trading barbs over an easy pay day. I never tuned into fights for the circus around them but the actual match and I don't think 12 rounds of the Floyd Mayweather school of boxing is going to be all that interesting or worth the price of admission.
As someone who barely watches the stuff leading up to the actual fight night I could give a shit about two egomaniacs trading barbs over an easy pay day. I never tuned into fights for the circus around them but the actual match and I don't think 12 rounds of the Floyd Mayweather school of boxing is going to be all that interesting or worth the price of admission.
I hope McGregor doesnt get hut too badly. I really can't believe this fight got sanctioned but I know money talks and that is all that matters.
He ain't lying. Media bit hard and made him 100 mill to get his teeth locked out. He would have had to fight for 30 years in MMA to make that cash, or fight once.
McGregor is a dead man. Ya can't win rock!!!
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The fight isn't going 12 rounds.
I have no issues with "event" fights. It's honestly what prize fighting is all about. If you can get two people to fight that people actually care about watching and are willing to pay money for it than it's obvious why it got made.
Do you guys even watch Floyd's fights? Dude is not a power puncher and has brittle hands. He is incapable of KOing a fighter without sucker punching them a la Ortiz.
It doesn't matter if KO power isn't the best part of Floyd's game. Conor is going to be so gassed by round 4 that Mayweather won't even have to try that hard to get shots in.Do you guys even watch Floyd's fights? Dude is not a power puncher and has brittle hands. He is incapable of KOing a fighter without sucker punching them a la Ortiz. This will go the distance and Floyd will pick up a decision win, but will probably lose a round or two and maybe be in trouble once, like in the Mosley fight.
Do you guys even watch Floyd's fights? Dude is not a power puncher and has brittle hands. He is incapable of KOing a fighter without sucker punching them a la Ortiz. This will go the distance and Floyd will pick up a decision win, but will probably lose a round or two and maybe be in trouble once, like in the Mosley fight.
Do you guys even watch Floyd's fights? Dude is not a power puncher and has brittle hands. He is incapable of KOing a fighter without sucker punching them a la Ortiz.
It's not some wild thing to believe the fight won't go the distance. When was the last time Conor with 12 rounds? Of course Floyd is older and isn't known as a power puncher, but did you see the Hatton KO, "sucker punching" Ortiz shouldn't have instantly led to a KO if he has "no power". Just to mention Andre Ward (who isn't known as a power puncher) got a KO against a bigger stronger KO artist. Why? Because of timing, accuracy and the other boxer not having stamina. I'll imagine late round, Connor is gassed and just getting counter punched, drops his hands and they stop the fight. I'll take any bet on that.
Do you guys even watch Floyd's fights? Dude is not a power puncher and has brittle hands. He is incapable of KOing a fighter without sucker punching them a la Ortiz. This will go the distance and Floyd will pick up a decision win, but will probably lose a round or two and maybe be in trouble once, like in the Mosley fight.
It's almost as if Connor McGregor isn't a boxer, yet alone a world class boxer with years of experience and yet you're judging Connor's ability to not get KO'd by Floyd on the performances of World Class Boxers, a significant amount of them Champions or Top Contenders, that Floyd has faced.
It's almost as if MMA is a different sport to Boxing.
I don't know. It's sad that this thread already has more pages than most boxing or MMA PPV threads do. It's sad that people will keep entertaining the idea that Conor has a snowballs chance in hell of winning this. It's sad that people will fork out money to watch this fight.Why are people having the exact same argument every page of this thread? Hasn't all this already been hashed out enough?
I think Conor has a snowballs chance in hell, but why does that even matter? This fight is stupid, Floyd is POS, and these conversations aren't going anywhere.
There is zero chance Conor quits on the stool. He will let himself be KOd before he did that
What the fuck do you want people to talk about then dude? Why are you even here to post this if you feel that way?
This is literal thread-whining. People get banned for that shit. Contribute to the discussion or check out - easy.
Yeah he's not going to quit, it's just not in him.
I really hope through some miracle Conor and knock Mayweather out but it's such an astronomically low possibility. The best thing Conor can do is mindfuck Mayweather and place all the pressure on him. Conor really has nothing to lose in this fight and everything to gain, while Mathweather really is carrying the whole thing. If he's not able to finish Conor and it just goes to the scorecards even that is a big win for Conor.
Dude does it in every Mayweather thread. It's like we get it, you hate Floyd with a passion and must let people know every single time there's a thread that involves his name.
Remind me what new contributions you've made in this thread. I wasn't talking about Floyd, I was talking about the exact same posts being made every page like we all have collective amnesia. "Conor has no chance" ad infinitum.
I'm just curious if we can cover some new ground, maybe.
There is zero chance Conor quits on the stool. He will let himself be KOd before he did that
Much better men and fighters than Conor have before. Never say never.
Getting your ass beat and humiliated at the same time can take a serious toll on the mind.
More likely his corner throws the towel to save his ego, but the idea that Conor is some iron willed warrior unlike anything boxing has ever seen is ridiculous.
Much better men and fighters than Conor have before. Never say never.
Getting your ass beat and humiliated at the same time can take a serious toll on the mind.
More likely his corner throws the towel to save his ego, but the idea that Conor is some iron willed warrior unlike anything boxing has ever seen is ridiculous.
I mean did you see Diaz vs McGregor 2? That fight was an unbelievable war.
The odds Conor quits between rounds are very very slim.
And no not "better fighters" than McGregor. Better Boxers yes.
Better FIGHTERS.
Conor has never boxed before in a professional match.
Man, my mma friend I was counting on for a big bet on this already got taken for $300 on Mcgregor to win. Poor bastard. I just wanted $50 from him.
And quitting on the stool in high level boxing isn't even a super common thing at all. It happens occassionally sure but plenty of boxers keep going until they are finished, why suddenly McGregor would just quit seems like wishful hoping more than anything.
Better FIGHTERS.
Conor has never boxed before in a professional match.
Since when are Boxers better fighters than MMA athletes?
I agree better Boxers have quit on the stool than Conor though sure. Its still not a common thing in high level competition (though does happen)
MMA fighters go through much, much, much more difficult and mentally draining training than boxers do. Heather Hardy even said so in a recent interview.
If this was an actual fight, Floyd wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning. But they're going with boxing rules, so here we are.
Conor is the good guy in part based on the unscientific sample size in this post:
Conor is the better human being
Floyd, allegedly as I do not want to slander his character, beats women.
Floyd is a jerk
Floyd is overrated
Floyd is too cocky.
Floyd, allegedly and this is not my opinion, uses steroids because Vegas has lax rules.
Floyd is too old and is slow now
Let me post then double back and find some good hate to back up my points:
*found some evidence EDIT*
Floyd's the bad guy because:
MMA fighters go through much, much, much more difficult and mentally draining training than boxers do. Heather Hardy even said so in a recent interview.
If this was an actual fight, Floyd wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning. But they're going with boxing rules, so here we are.
Most fights in boxing aren't a top professional against someone with zero actual experience.
You're right. Most UFC fighters' cardio sucks by the time they get to a fight.From an athletic standpoint, Floyd is 100 times greater than Connor even at age 40 which is weird nobody even discusses the athletic disparity which will become abundantly clear when you see both of them in the ring and will only be exacerbated by the disparity in skill.
Conor has shitty cardio and if Floyd is lighting him up and he's landing nothing, him quitting on the stool is far more likely than you're suggesting.
Conor is a top fighter though. Its disingenuous by the Boxing community to suddenly pretend like this is some nobody who doesn't know anything about fighting. A big part of that comes from a lot of the boxing community having seen none of his fights and knowing nothing really about MMA other than on an ultra casual level.
Conor is going to go in there and get schooled, possibly even finished in the later rounds. But this isn't some brand new experience to him. The man is used to being kicked, punched, kneed, elbowed, having fighters on top of him on the ground throwing punches at his skull, and being choked.
Fighting Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match of all things is hardly anything scarier than what he's gone through in training in his own gym. Him getting destroyed by Floyd in boxing doesn't change anything on that. The idea he's just gonna quit on the stool seems very very very far fetched.
This fan made Trailer Promo is one of the most impressive I've ever seen for anything. I mean its flat out fucking incredible. The build up to this fight is going to be a once in a lifetime type deal
https://youtu.be/SO6cIlxMhco
This is going to be such a damn show
I don't think it's going to be scary at all for Connor either nor do i question his warrior spirit and will. We're just not putting the idea of Connor quitting on his stool, no matter how far fetched it might seem to you, past us. Not because he's weak or anything, but simply due to his inexperience in boxing in general, and the rigors of potentially being completely embarrassed and humiliated, while simultaneously being hit at will, and missing most if not all his shots, and the futility of it all when his body feels the effects not only of those shots but of the 12 round Boxing matches being 11 minutes longer than 5 round MMA matches.
I don't disagree with much of any of that.
The thing is quitting on the stool in MMA is virtually not a thing, even less so than boxing. A lot of it comes from the origins of the sport being firmly rooted in Martial Arts / BJJ but its incredibly rare to see someone quit on the stool in high level of MMA. If Conor quits, even in a boxing match, his marketability in MMA takes a massive hit. A lot of MMA fans will be angry with him for representing MMA in that aspect and his opponents will be able to use it to call him a quitter. I don't see any scenario where Conor, who is a master of marketing, quits and risks that much of a hit to his drawing potential. If he's KO'd / ref stoppage he can play that off much much easier by calling it a different sport.
Only way I think its realistic to expect him to quit is if Conor plans on this being his final fight. But I'm pretty confident he doesn't plan on retiring so I think he'd much rather just go out there and let Floyd finish him off first.
I don't think Connor intends to ever fight again tbh, so I don't necessarily see that as a reason, but I do think his pride will be the main motivating factor not to quit as it is with a lot of fighters. However anybody who's followed boxing have seen Legends quit for the first time when too much was enough.