BossDarkseid
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"Jodie Whittaker was unveiled in a forest. Therefore her companion will be Forest Whitaker"
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Doctor Who: Jodie Whittaker announced as the 13th Doctor!
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Spaced Harrier
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Well just because they are women doesn't mean they would be on board.
They can have plurality of opinions too!
Doctor Who's never been my thing but I did watch a bit with Copaldi and enjoyed it because of him.
The writing was often weak and felt unclear as to who it was actually aimed at.
SigmasonicX
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There have been strong individual episodes, but it only recently felt like Capaldi was actually "established" as the Doctor, largely due to Clara being the center of the story for so long during his seasons. They've pulled back on season storylines about how the whole universe is going to die, which is nice.
Some great episodes off the top of my head are:
Season 8: Mummy on the Orient Express, Flatline, Dark Water
Season 9: Heaven Sent
Season 10: Oxygen, Extremis, World Enough and Time
He makes a good play at being Nu Who's "Third Doctor". Great character, iffy scripts as usual. And he's better paired with Missy or Bill than Clara.
Well, all I know is I will keep watching the show until/if it is canned. As Colin Baker once said, "I am The Doctor, whether you like it or not". If the writing isn't there though, people are free to criticize as always.
It's longer overdue, no question. I do have a feeling that the 14th Doc will be a male person of colour, but that's just me speculating.
It's longer overdue, no question. I do have a feeling that the 14th Doc will be a male person of colour, but that's just me speculating.
bobbychalkers
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I only know her from Attack the Block but I'm definitely interested. I need to get around to watching the latest season.
Listen was pretty excellent. Mummy is one of my favorites of his though. Knock Knock was like 80% good.
Well there was a decent amount of fandom that seemed really hitched to the "perfect guy comes and whisks me away to see the universe" fantasy that Tennant and Smith really knocked out of the park. So I could see some kind of not feeling the change in that regard.
Capadli by himself was great , even both comanions , but the last season was uneven with some great episodes and some butchered by Moffats moffatness
PS: Nardole FTW
If it helps, she is being written by a huge, huge Doctor Who fan.
Just as age did not necessarily strip the character of what made him the Doctor, I doubt gender necessarily has to either.
I would argue that what you identified as the 'grandfatherly' aspect to the character is not literally that, but something closer to do with his agelessness and history. This can be replicated regardless of gender or race. The writing just has to unify 13 to the rest.
Because they can't swoon over the actor like they did with Tennant and Smith.
BossDarkseid
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Heh, I'm kinda the same. I grew up renting VHS tapes of Dr Who and watching Star Wars on repeat so sci-fi is...kinda in my veins, a bit at least, at least the casting can be inferred to suggest the people behind the show know that their audience is diversifying so it needs to reflect that. Now the proof will be in the pudding/episodes, as to whether the whole thing will be good...but as long as they keep things interesting I'll watch even if its a bit shit
If they cast a Male POC as 14 I imagine the SaveOurDrWho people would be like "Guys. Are we meant to be angry now? I'm confused"
ElectricKaibutsu
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Same.
Yup. The same sort of people were not pleased with Capaldi.
Stumpokapow
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In my opinion, no fault of Capaldi's but not very good. The writing and plotting is definitely the weak link at this point. Which is why it's good we're also getting a new showrunner!
Laurentius
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If you haven't, y'all should go watch Broadchurch. That show is amazing, she was great in it, and now we can say that show had 2 Doctors.
US or UK Broadchurch?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The US one is called "Gracepoint" and is a pretty dull remake of the first season of the UK one. Watch the UK one. The first season (series) is excellent, the second not great, and the third excellent again.
Heh, I'm kinda the same. I grew up renting VHS tapes of Dr Who and watching Star Wars on repeat so sci-fi is...kinda in my veins, a bit at least, at least the casting can be inferred to suggest the people behind the show know that their audience is diversifying so it needs to reflect that. Now the proof will be in the pudding/episodes, as to whether the whole thing will be good...but as long as they keep things interesting I'll watch even if its a bit shit
If they cast a Male POC as 14 I imagine the SaveOurDrWho people would be like "Guys. Are we meant to be angry now? I'm confused"
Haha, we're in the same boat. I mean, I watched The Mark of the Rani and survived, I'm not going to stop watching.
And people will always hate the casting of Doctor Who. I remember reading an old article online about people's reactions to Troughton replacing Hartnell (despite him already having a notable career), they were not happy. They said it would be the end of show, heh.
PowderedToast
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internalised sexism is a thing
ClivePwned
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He's the blondest actor they've had in the role but Peter Davison's father, Claude Moffet, was from a mixed race background from the West Indies. Davison talks about him in his autobiography and how he's the only one of his siblings who took after his mother.
plagiarize
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There is no US show called 'Broadchurch'. It was Gracepoint.
StopMakingSense
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Wonderfull idea
Or maybe they just like the fantasy of a otherworldly guy sweeping them off their feet on an adventure? But sure sexism.
Amazing doctor, poor writing with some exceptions
plagiarize
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I think Peter Capaldi already didn't fit that mold.
I feel sorry for you, Capaldi was amazing
StopMakingSense
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Ew. Gracepoint was so blahhhhhh. And the twist they did at the end to change if from Broadchurch was just terrible.
Counts as white to the crazy people. We need a black female to make Twitter die, a black dude would cause a medium meltdown.
Bobby Roberts
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This absolutely needs to happen, and I feel like Chibnall will put in the work to get that done more than Moffat would.
fluffydelusions
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Some of the youtube comments though =\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1IczjLYCIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1IczjLYCIM
plagiarize
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I love the idea of Jack not even noticing The Doctor is a woman now. Why would he?
PowderedToast
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capaldi felt like the absolute end of where you could take the character as a male. a brilliant actor, probably the best man the show will get in terms of the respect he garners, raw talent and experience
not to mention to swell of cultural opinion that was demanding the change. she's a fabulous actor with so much more to give. this is the thing, so many minorities and women NEVER get the chance to have a meaty role and show their range. whittaker will blow people away.
also the show has always had problems with consistency. people remember tennant fondly but he had just as many if not more wonky episodes. but around 2010-2013, standards in TV changed drastically and its flaws became more exposed. and of course there was a change in how moffat handled arcs and accessibility.
on the other hand, find me another show that's more eclectic in tone and genre. it's the nature of it.
not to mention to swell of cultural opinion that was demanding the change. she's a fabulous actor with so much more to give. this is the thing, so many minorities and women NEVER get the chance to have a meaty role and show their range. whittaker will blow people away.
also the show has always had problems with consistency. people remember tennant fondly but he had just as many if not more wonky episodes. but around 2010-2013, standards in TV changed drastically and its flaws became more exposed. and of course there was a change in how moffat handled arcs and accessibility.
on the other hand, find me another show that's more eclectic in tone and genre. it's the nature of it.
It's basically the diametric opposite of The Sonic Cycle
paradox121
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Hearing that she's mates with Eccleston, Smith and Tennant already makes me want a Five Doctors v.2 with them plus Capaldi. I see her skewing more to the restrained 9+12 and letting 10+11 goof off like children.
Now the long wait to see who the companion is. Genuinely don't know whether they'll go male or female. If it was a male it would probably have to be someone fairly young. A male Rose basically.
Rigsy from S8/9 would've been perfect come to think of it.
Now the long wait to see who the companion is. Genuinely don't know whether they'll go male or female. If it was a male it would probably have to be someone fairly young. A male Rose basically.
Rigsy from S8/9 would've been perfect come to think of it.