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[Vincent Alexander]

Because I don't consider soldiers murderers when they went to a shitty war started by shitty politicians. I don't hold the soldier to be evil or wrong for going to Vietnam.

Nor would I spit on soldiers back from Iraq even though they shouldn't be there in the first place. I thank them for being willing to fight for us despite being sent across the world for bullshit that was absolutely the wrong fight.

Kind of agree, but unfortunately, the troops are hardly ever there for us. But I'll agree, because it is the "willing to fight for us" that is important. And as far as they believe, they are fighting for us.

 

[NandoGip]

What a roller coaster this thread has been

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Kind of agree, but unfortunately, the troops are hardly ever there for us.

Very fair point. Like I said shit is corrupt as fuck.

Of course you don't cause they aren't killing Americans. The lack of empathy for others from another country is staggering.

Haven't I repeatedly said the war is wrong. It's just when I traceback to where that all started my blame goes to the politicians for the civilians deaths. Not that the civilian deaths are irrelevant. You seem to be going out of your way to intentionally "misunderstand" me.

 

[bonesmccoy]

-Wikipedia

I don't agree with his politics, but I respect the sacrifice he made during his service.

Further reading

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

 

[theCalamity]

A group of wealthy people have hijacked the trolley you are on, and they are trying to load a bomb onto the front of the trolley and drive it into the center of the city, killing millions. They are having trouble with the bomb - some of them feel like it is too explosive, while one says it should have been a nuclear bomb. One of the hijackers continuously expresses concern while he helps to connect the bomb wires and strap it to train. "This is troubling," he says, maverically, while pouring explosive powder into it. After awhile, he shakes his head. "Stop the train for a sec," he says. "My doctor just called and I have brain cancer." Is it ethical to yell "Good riddance, you coward!" as he leaves the train?

Stolen from SA

 

[Sirpopopop]

Further reading

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

Further reading that considers a confession under duress as evidence of duplicity.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Because I don't consider soldiers murderers when they went to a shitty war started by shitty politicians. I don't hold the soldier to be evil or wrong for going to Vietnam.

Nor would I spit on soldiers back from Iraq even though they shouldn't be there in the first place. I thank them for being willing to fight for us despite being sent across the world for bullshit that was absolutely the wrong fight.

What about the ones who wanted to be there and still defend going there?

 

[Bronx-Man]

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news...y-got-married-then-everything-changed-6433344

here is confirmation of it.

I wonder where his empathy was then.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

lmao if we're going to get into personal anecdotes to make you feel more empathy, my family fuckin hates the united states because during the Vietnam war, the soldiers actually were a pack of murderers and rapists who killed and raped countless friends and family

so McCain's service actually means shit all to me

Ouch. But well said.

The fetishization of military service will forever be baffling to me but it's truly comical when framed in a discussion between international participants, many of whom couldn't give two shits about the USA's wars, and some of whom have been victims of it.

To be fair it was to fight Communism, it was not a cultural or race war or anything like that.

???

If this was a grand conflict between good and evil, McCain was in the right side.

Puh-fucking-lease. Are you kidding me with this?

What the hell is wrong with you people, guy has brain cancer and you argue about the Vietnam war? Do you actually think before you post?

The fuck

I think those people arguing about the Vietnam war actually put far more thought into their posts than you just did with your trite, whiny, reactionary "but cancer!!" appeal to emotions.

 

[ElFly]

Because I don't consider soldiers murderers when they went to a shitty war started by shitty politicians. I don't hold the soldier to be evil or wrong for going to Vietnam.

Nor would I spit on soldiers back from Iraq even though they shouldn't be there in the first place. I thank them for being willing to fight for us despite being sent across the world for bullshit that was absolutely the wrong fight.

so he was just following orders

what a great defense

despite other people knowing better and refusing to go to war in the first place

despite the fact that real bravery would have been to refuse said orders in the first place. but he followed them because he wanted to bomb people, like a coward

going to remember this post whenever a murder in the name of the war on drugs comes up

the soldiers knowingly following the shitty politician orders also carry blame. I will say that soldiers drafted against their will have excuses and forgiveness, but that is not the case for McCain

 

[NateDrake]

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news...y-got-married-then-everything-changed-6433344

here is confirmation of it.

Is that really confirmation of it? It's the same as what the tweet said. I mean, do we know that it was actually McCain who replied to the letter? More often than not it is someone on the staff that replies to such letters. Not the actual Senator or elected official.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Is that really confirmation of it? It's the same as what the tweet said. I mean, do we know that it was actually McCain who replied to the letter? More often than not it is someone on the staff that replies to such letters. Not the actual Senator or elected official.

And even if he did reply to the letter someone could have forged his signature. Or maybe someone hacked into his emails and replied to that letter and that letter alone. We don't know. Identity theft is a very serious issue.

 

[ElFly]

Is that really confirmation of it? It's the same as what the tweet said. I mean, do we know that it was actually McCain who replied to the letter? More often than not it is someone on the staff that replies to such letters. Not the actual Senator or elected official.

I totally believe this, but I would like some external confirmation of the letter, yeah

 

[convo]

https://twitter.com/jessica_roy/status/887847253334872065

@jessica_roy
My friend's husband died of glioblastoma in AZ. They wrote a letter to McCain begging for his help. He advised them to move.

I mean if you are a very optimistic person you could take that as positive advice.
Can't the GOP tell people to make-believe people's cancer away i mean if people can believe what they want they could just say that cancer is a made up disease that doesn't do anything.

 

[Mackenzie 92]

Because I don't consider soldiers murderers when they went to a shitty war started by shitty politicians. I don't hold the soldier to be evil or wrong for going to Vietnam.

Nor would I spit on soldiers back from Iraq even though they shouldn't be there in the first place. I thank them for being willing to fight for us despite being sent across the world for bullshit that was absolutely the wrong fight.

You have to draw the line somewhere and at some point you have to hold them responsible for their actions.

The Mỹ Lai Massacre (Vietnamese: thảm sát Mỹ Lai, [tʰâːm ʂǎːt mǐˀ lāːj] (About this sound listen); /ˌmiːˈlaɪ/, /ˌmiːˈleɪ/, or /ˌmaɪˈlaɪ/)[1] was the Vietnam War mass killing of between 347 and 504 unarmed civilians in South Vietnam on March 16, 1968. It was committed by U.S. Army soldiers from Company C, 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 11th Brigade, 23rd (Americal) Infantry Division. Victims included men, women, children, and infants. Some of the women were gang-raped and their bodies mutilated.[2][3] Twenty-six soldiers were charged with criminal offenses, but only Lieutenant William Calley Jr., a platoon leader in C Company, was convicted. Found guilty of killing 22 villagers, he was originally given a life sentence, but served only three and a half years under house arrest.

The massacre, which was later called "the most shocking episode of the Vietnam War",[4] took place in two hamlets of Sơn Mỹ village in Quảng Ngãi Province.[5] These hamlets were marked on the U.S. Army topographic maps as My Lai and My Khe.[6] The U.S. Army slang name for the hamlets and sub-hamlets in that area was Pinkville,[7] and the carnage was initially referred to as the Pinkville Massacre.[8][9] Later, when the U.S. Army started its investigation, the media changed it to the Massacre at Songmy.[10] Currently, the event is referred to as the My Lai Massacre in the United States and called the Sơn Mỹ Massacre in Vietnam.

The incident prompted global outrage when it became public knowledge in November 1969. The My Lai massacre increased to some extent[11] domestic opposition to the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War when the scope of killing and cover-up attempts were exposed. Initially, three U.S. servicemen who had tried to halt the massacre and rescue the hiding civilians were shunned, and even denounced as traitors by several U.S. Congressmen, including Mendel Rivers, Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. Only after thirty years were they recognized and decorated, one posthumously, by the U.S. Army for shielding non-combatants from harm in a war zone.[12] Along with the No Gun Ri massacre in Korea eighteen years earlier, My Lai was one of the largest single massacres of civilians by U.S. forces in the 20th century.[13]

 

[Dopus]

To be fair it was to fight Communism, it was not a cultural or race war or anything like that. If this was a grand conflict between good and evil, McCain was in the right side.

Thanks for the laugh.

 

[platocplx]

Is that really confirmation of it? It's the same as what the tweet said. I mean, do we know that it was actually McCain who replied to the letter? More often than not it is someone on the staff that replies to such letters. Not the actual Senator or elected official.

that tweet wasnt from the woman in question. That facebook post was. the timeline matches up and frankly based on how he is its crazy anyone would even give him the benefit of the doubt. You can go and contact the woman yourself if you really think she'd lie that a congressman would say that and/or it comes from his office which he is responsible for all communication that comes out of his office which is equally as bad.

 

[fataliteter]

A true American hero. He has served his country for decades both as a soldier and as a statesman. His prognosis doesn't seem good, but I'll keep hoping for the best as long as he's alive.

 

[bonesmccoy]

Further reading that considers a confession under duress as evidence of duplicity.

It's worth mentioning, especially given the public image McCain created and used to great success.

 

[Hermii]

I don't wish that upon anyone

Digressing here but I hate the term "beat cancer". Like it's implying survivors are somehow stronger people than those who die.

 

[Sapiens]

Dude's a war hero. Here's hoping he pulls through.

 

[Steeped in a Sea of Games]

And even if he did reply to the letter someone could have forged his signature. Or maybe someone hacked into his emails and replied to that letter and that letter alone. We don't know. Identity theft is a very serious issue.

Why isn't anyone talking about the fact that she leaked that letter to the public! That was a private correspondence!

Spoiler

Please tell me you don't need to know that this is sattire.

 

[Fantastical]

Apparently Snopes is investigating that story about the woman whose husband had brain cancer and have found sources to cooroberate it.
https://twitter.com/brooklynmarie/status/888117813587484672

 

[excelsiorlef]

Apparently Snopes is investigating that story about the woman whose husband had brain cancer and have found sources to cooroberate it.
https://twitter.com/brooklynmarie/status/888117813587484672

Fuck the LA Times sold her down the river.

And she then sold her friend down the river to boot.

 

[Amibguous Cad]

Even with Medicaid expansion in every state, there would still be those fall-betweens who make too much to be eligible for Medicaid subsidies but are too poor to afford decent coverage. A lot of people would (and are opting to) incur the penalty rather than get a bare bones insurance policy.

Because almost every one of those people would be covered under Medicaid expansion!

But even if I grant that, surely there's a version Obamacare that does get you to universal coverage? Ale the individual market subsidies more generous, or make the Medicaid expansion cover more people. Obamacare was sold as getting us to universal coverage, and there's no reason why it can't get us there

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Yeah, Obama must be a loon huh?

Lol, you voted for Trump cause you wanted ACA gone and you're in this thread?

Lmao

 

[Psychoward]

Apparently Snopes is investigating that story about the woman whose husband had brain cancer and have found sources to cooroberate it.
https://twitter.com/brooklynmarie/status/888117813587484672

not shocked at all


http://imgur.com/gallery/RcNXFLy


love how he's being hailed on some internet circles now because the bar for the modern GOP (and him) are so fucking low that saying Obama isn't an Arab is worthy of vast praise and respect. also gotta love the intellectual dishonesty that's spewing some not so subtle both sides bs in the imgur thread ugh

 

[rjinaz]

Apparently Snopes is investigating that story about the woman whose husband had brain cancer and have found sources to cooroberate it.
https://twitter.com/brooklynmarie/status/888117813587484672

Her friend couldn't produce the letter and now remembers she told McCain in the letter it was suggested she move to Canada and McCain seems to have agreed with that.

Seems like it's very likely true, but definitely could have been handled better.

 

[Seth Enosh]

Apparently Snopes is investigating that story about the woman whose husband had brain cancer and have found sources to cooroberate it.
https://twitter.com/brooklynmarie/status/888117813587484672

Without the actual letter or a quotation from the letter, the reporter's tweet and framing of the story was irresponsible.

As pointed out in https://mobile.twitter.com/HashtagGriswold/status/888067042422738945 apparently they were in a fight with a state agency to stay on Medicaid. McCain is a U.S. senator and he or his staff can't order the state bureaucracy to change its mind (or violate state law). Moving to a state that spends more on Medicaid might have been a good, if desperate, move in those circumstances.

 

[Loudninja]

Without the actual letter or a quotation from the letter, the reporter's tweet and framing of the story was irresponsible.

As pointed out in https://mobile.twitter.com/HashtagGriswold/status/888067042422738945 apparently they were in a fight with a state agency to stay on Medicaid. McCain is a U.S. senator and he or his staff can't order the state bureaucracy to change its mind (or violate state law). Moving to a state that spends more on Medicaid might have been a good, if desperate, move in those circumstances.

Oh so you defending this. :/

The whole point is that they should not have to move to get good healthcare.

 

[Psychoward]

Without the actual letter or a quotation from the letter, the reporter's tweet and framing of the story was irresponsible.

As pointed out in https://mobile.twitter.com/HashtagGriswold/status/888067042422738945 apparently they were in a fight with a state agency to stay on Medicaid. McCain is a U.S. senator and he or his staff can't order the state bureaucracy to change its mind (or violate state law). Moving to a state that spends more on Medicaid might have been a good, if desperate, move in those circumstances.

there are about a 101 better ways he could have handled it


like oh I don't know "thanks for your touching story, I'll make sure to work hard to have your husband and people like him be covered, but you're right, in the meantime moving may be the solution for right now"

instead of lol cutting 32 million people off healthcare

 

[Seth Enosh]

Oh so you defending this. :/

The whole point is that they should not have to move to get good healthcare.

In 2010, Obamacare was being rolled out across the nation. Arizona expanded Medicaid in 2013. McCain said recently that he wasn't ok with the damage the repeal of Obamacare would have done to Medicaid (which this brain cancer patient was struggling to stay on in 2010, pre expansion). He implied he wouldn't vote for the repeal and replace without this being fixed. https://www.mccain.senate.gov/publi...eases?ID=FD3E4602-DFAF-4705-BB95-C8791E4BBAAC

In other words McCain has actually been fighting for people like this, and this entire line of attack doesn't really make much sense.

there are about a 101 better ways he could have handled it


like oh I don't know "thanks for your touching story, I'll make sure to work hard to have your husband and people like him be covered, but you're right, in the meantime moving may be the solution for right now"

instead of lol cutting 32 million people off healthcare

Yeah, so if you have the letter and it says "lol cutting 32 million people off healthcare" perhaps you can provide it to the reporter so she can un-retract her retraction of the story. I highly doubt it says anything like that.

 

[louiedog]

In 2010, Obamacare was being rolled out across the nation. Arizona expanded Medicaid in 2013. McCain said recently that he wasn't ok with the damage the repeal of Obamacare would have done to Medicaid (which this brain cancer patient was struggling to stay on in 2010, pre expansion). He implied he wouldn't vote for the repeal and replace without this being fixed. https://www.mccain.senate.gov/publi...eases?ID=FD3E4602-DFAF-4705-BB95-C8791E4BBAAC

In other words McCain has actually been fighting for people like this, and this entire line of attack doesn't really make much sense.

McCain implies he doesn't like a lot of things that he just goes along with anyway so that means nothing.

 

[Lundren]

.

McCain implying he is going to vote a certain way means jack shit.

That's his game plan. He talks shit then he votes the way his masters tell him to.

I wish McCain all the best, just as I'm sure he has implied he wishes on others.

 

[Seth Enosh]

McCain implies he doesn't like a lot of things that he just goes along with anyway so that means nothing.

hard core conservatives hated McCain for years, and call him a "RINO" precisely because that's not true. He doesn't always tow the party line.

Check out https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:McCain-ACU-ADA-scores.gif or a conservative article from the 2008 primary complaining about those scores http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/01/mccains_acu_ratings.html

What this means is that McCain's ACU ratings since 1998 put him on the liberal side among Republicans. The few Republicans consistently more liberal than McCain would be Chafee (formerly R-RI), Collins (R-ME), Snowe (R-ME) and Specter (R-PA). One could expect senators from northeastern states to be more liberal since their constituencies demand it, but McCain represents the fairly conservative state of Arizona. (Arizona's other senator, Kyl, has a lifetime rating of 96.9, and half the representatives from there have ratings of 94.7 or higher.)​

 

[Psychoward]

Yeah, so if you have the letter and it says "lol cutting 32 million people off healthcare" perhaps you can provide it to the reporter so she can un-retract her retraction of the story. I highly doubt it says anything like that.

I didn't say that's what the letter said, I meant that's what he actually went and did as a response. Or at least would have done if the bill didn't implode.

 

[Echo chamber]

What a legend this man is brings a tear in my left eye.

WAR HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Stumpokapow]

hard core conservatives hated McCain for years, and call him a "RINO" precisely because that's not true. He doesn't always tow the party line.

Check out https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:McCain-ACU-ADA-scores.gif or a conservative article from the 2008 primary complaining about those scores http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/01/mccains_acu_ratings.html

What this means is that McCain's ACU ratings since 1998 put him on the liberal side among Republicans. The few Republicans consistently more liberal than McCain would be Chafee (formerly R-RI), Collins (R-ME), Snowe (R-ME) and Specter (R-PA). One could expect senators from northeastern states to be more liberal since their constituencies demand it, but McCain represents the fairly conservative state of Arizona. (Arizona's other senator, Kyl, has a lifetime rating of 96.9, and half the representatives from there have ratings of 94.7 or higher.)​

The ACU deliberately picks votes to rig scores to make people they don't like look liberal so they can yell at them. (This is also why every Democratic nominee is the most liberal nominee ever) The lack of between-year comparability and the agenda behind the creation of the scores is why no serious political analysis uses unadjusted interest group scores.

In DW-NOMINATE scores, McCain is between Roger Wicker (Mississippi) and Mike Rounds (South Dakota). He is left of the median Republican, but not out of whack with what you'd expect given his party and the composition of his state. You can see DW-Nominate scores here.

 

[excelsiorlef]

hard core conservatives hated McCain for years, and call him a "RINO" precisely because that's not true. He doesn't always tow the party line.

Check out https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:McCain-ACU-ADA-scores.gif or a conservative article from the 2008 primary complaining about those scores http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/01/mccains_acu_ratings.html

What this means is that McCain's ACU ratings since 1998 put him on the liberal side among Republicans. The few Republicans consistently more liberal than McCain would be Chafee (formerly R-RI), Collins (R-ME), Snowe (R-ME) and Specter (R-PA). One could expect senators from northeastern states to be more liberal since their constituencies demand it, but McCain represents the fairly conservative state of Arizona. (Arizona's other senator, Kyl, has a lifetime rating of 96.9, and half the representatives from there have ratings of 94.7 or higher.)​

Yeah they hate him because they're fucking crazy....

 

[LinkAndEpona]

Damn, pretty horrible news for the guy. With his age though something like this was just bound to happen.

 

[Waddle Dee]

Karma's a bitch, huh McCain?

Asshole doesn't even deserve healthcare, considering all he wanted to do was take it away from anyone not as rich as him.

The defense force in here is pathetic. "War Hero"? Yeah, being a little servant for the army to do with as they please sure is amazing, huh? Totally makes up for all the evil shit he's tried to get away with. This fake sympathy shit is weak. Should we always show sympathy for people who die, regardless of the monsters they are? If Trump got cancer, would you defenders be saying "I pray for him and his family"?

People like McCain don't deserve sympathy. They wouldn't show any for any of us if we got cancer. They'd just say "Oh, too bad. You don't have the money. So long!".

 

[louiedog]

hard core conservatives hated McCain for years, and call him a "RINO" precisely because that's not true. He doesn't always tow the party line.

Check out https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:McCain-ACU-ADA-scores.gif or a conservative article from the 2008 primary complaining about those scores http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/01/mccains_acu_ratings.html

What this means is that McCain's ACU ratings since 1998 put him on the liberal side among Republicans. The few Republicans consistently more liberal than McCain would be Chafee (formerly R-RI), Collins (R-ME), Snowe (R-ME) and Specter (R-PA). One could expect senators from northeastern states to be more liberal since their constituencies demand it, but McCain represents the fairly conservative state of Arizona. (Arizona's other senator, Kyl, has a lifetime rating of 96.9, and half the representatives from there have ratings of 94.7 or higher.)​

Oh, okay then. Maybe McCain from 10+ years ago who hadn't yet picked Sarah Palin as a running mate or pretend to find everything from 2017 troubling that he did anyway will time travel to the present and vote to save the healthcare that he doesn't think is a thing people have a right too. I'm glad we got this sorted.

 

[MotionBlue]

It really is karma/ironic, but the amount of reveling and outright cheering for a terminal illness is gross. The ultimate goal is to be better than Republican partisanship and their insanity.

This might shake up the GOP enough to have them break formation.

 

[Jombie]

I don't exactly have sympathy for him. At least he'll be getting the best care money can buy, the type of care that he thinks others simply don't deserve because they're not rich. At the same time, I wish people wouldn't revel in his illness. It changes nothing.

 

[Mailbox]

Karma's a bitch, huh McCain?

Asshole doesn't even deserve healthcare, considering all he wanted to do was take it away from anyone not as rich as him.

The defense force in here is pathetic. "War Hero"? Yeah, being a little servant for the army to do with as they please sure is amazing, huh? Totally makes up for all the evil shit he's tried to get away with. This fake sympathy shit is weak. Should we always show sympathy for people who die, regardless of the monsters they are? If Trump got cancer, would you defenders be saying "I pray for him and his family"?

People like McCain don't deserve sympathy. They wouldn't show any for any of us if we got cancer. They'd just say "Oh, too bad. You don't have the money. So long!".

Just because someone wouldn't feel for you doesn't mean you shouldn't feel for them. There is no point in saying "he doesn't deserve healthcare b/c he tried to take it away from others". That's just spiteful. You are better than that.

Also, acting like being a soldier isn't hard as shit work that doesn't deserve respect is just being an asshole. I highly doubt you even have an iota of an idea what its like being a soldier, let alone one who was a POW.

You can feel sorry for someone's misfortune and hate their political aspirations.

 

[Osukaa]

Karma's a bitch, huh McCain?

Asshole doesn't even deserve healthcare, considering all he wanted to do was take it away from anyone not as rich as him.

The defense force in here is pathetic. "War Hero"? Yeah, being a little servant for the army to do with as they please sure is amazing, huh? Totally makes up for all the evil shit he's tried to get away with. This fake sympathy shit is weak. Should we always show sympathy for people who die, regardless of the monsters they are? If Trump got cancer, would you defenders be saying "I pray for him and his family"?

People like McCain don't deserve sympathy. They wouldn't show any for any of us if we got cancer. They'd just say "Oh, too bad. You don't have the money. So long!".

Damn this is pretty extreme but I understand where your coming from. I also understand how people can want to give sympathy at a time when you realize what someone may be going through and what the family will go through. Cancer is an awful awful killer. Ive had a grandmother an aunt and an uncle die and I get teary eyed just thinking of what they went through before they died and being there when they pass it fckn sucks to know how much pain they suffered.. Him being diagnosed made me think of the people in our country that are not insured.. and need help like now.

Can you imagine being in that position and to have the leaders of your country turn down laws that would help you in your time of need. That must fckng suck like nothing else. I don't believe he is an evil man as I believe in his mind he was trying to help the country but to know that he played a part and CONTINUES to play the part of being a puppet for the dictator we have in office now. I just have conflicting feelings about this. I know im not the only one.

 

[SapientWolf]

Karma's a bitch, huh McCain?

Asshole doesn't even deserve healthcare, considering all he wanted to do was take it away from anyone not as rich as him.

The defense force in here is pathetic. "War Hero"? Yeah, being a little servant for the army to do with as they please sure is amazing, huh? Totally makes up for all the evil shit he's tried to get away with. This fake sympathy shit is weak. Should we always show sympathy for people who die, regardless of the monsters they are? If Trump got cancer, would you defenders be saying "I pray for him and his family"?

People like McCain don't deserve sympathy. They wouldn't show any for any of us if we got cancer. They'd just say "Oh, too bad. You don't have the money. So long!".

Not even gonna wait for him to vote before you dance over his grave?

 

[excelsiorlef]

Not even gonna wait for him to vote before you dance over his grave?

I mean even if he doesn't vote on this one (and that's a big if) he still wants to repeal the ACA and fuck people out of their healthcare...

 

[Krappadizzle]

Lol, you voted for Trump cause you wanted ACA gone and you're in this thread?

Lmao

You know fuck all about me. But I'll just say, lol. Get over it.

 

[Psychoward]

Not even gonna wait for him to vote before you dance over his grave?

oh please