2D Elitists Please Ether Buy a Handheld and shut the f*ck up or Screw Yourselves.

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Lemurnator

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Wah Wah. The "3D SUCKS 2D IS GOD THE GAME SUCKS IN 3D 2D FTW" is the most common and irritating post I see on these forums. Countless posts in countless threads are filled with bitching over how Zelda sucks since it's not 2D.

How's it feel to be a minority? Must feel pretty good since you so enjoy having such a "different" opinion from everyone else. Everyone else loves Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask but you couldn't get past the fact that they DESECRATED the franchise by turning it 3D. Wasn't this an issue that was layed to rest about 8 years ago when OoT was released? JESUS CHRIST GET OVER YOURSELF.

METROID PRIME SUCKS. GAME BETTER IN 2D. 2D GAMING IS HARCORE.

I apologize for the incoherant rambling but god damnit...

2D nerds are the worst kind of nerds.
 
Lemurnator said:
Wah Wah. The "3D SUCKS 2D IS GOD THE GAME SUCKS IN 3D 2D FTW" is the most common and irritating post I see on these forums. Countless posts in countless threads are filled with bitching over how Zelda sucks since it's not 2D.
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They are?

And I agree, buy a handheld. Like a PSP.
 
lemurs is max tard total but has a point. 2D and 3D can coexist and 2D isn't dying anytime soon (just going into hibernation?)
 
Dude, handhelds don't count because they're not consoles and stuff. Developers should ignore their customers and make hi-res 2D games because a few people would prefer it.
 
belgurdo said:
lemurs is max tard total but has a point. 2D and 3D can coexist and 2D isn't dying anytime soon (just going into hibernation?)
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I hate you.

You aren't even my real dad.

You clean your fucking room, Todd.
 
No. There isn't anything wrong with it at all.

But bitching about the fact that Metroid and Zelda are 3D 3-8 years after the fact just to come off as 1337 is very lame.

Every time someone denounces a perfectly good game, or in the case of the N64 Zelda's and Metroit Prime... perfect games because of their 3D perspective I think a kitten dies somewhere and Matlock has an orgasm because not only does he play games, he also reviews them.
 
I'm not even going to suggest a ban... that'd be polite.

Tie the infidel to a stake and BURN HIM ALIVE!!! Arrrrrrrrrrr!
 
"2D nerds are the worst kind of nerds."
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man this place is TAME compared to some of the other l337 boards out there!

The usual pattern is that the boards are full of true enthusiasts, who i have no issue with, but there'll be one or two dickheads who are like

"128-bit machines forment laziness"
"All 3d games are shit"
"Why won't the X360 and PS3 support true low res modes so i can have true pixel perfect <insert 2d fighting game from 14 years ago>? They are insulting the userbase"

oh and the classic

"This game looks great ... hold on, is this developed in Japan or America??... AMERICA?? f*ck that, it's shit!"

or even bigger classics like

"My favourite RPG is this rare Japanese RPG called "&#12510;&#12531;&#27713;&#39154;&#12416;&#39764;&#27861;&#24525;&#32773;&#65306;&#19981;&#24605;&#35696;&#12398;&#12450;&#12490;&#12523;&#22823;&#20882;&#38522;&#12288;&#65298;" - it's got a great story, fantastic art and of course is glorious low res 2d (and is by Nippo-Ballsare-ichi's secret Team Chimpo) - limited to 200 copies, it's a great game that only i know about. Of course, i don't speak any Japanese but it's EASY to figure out what is going on, and the 2d graphics make it sooooo easy to figure out what the story is..."

(jesus, i wish that last one was a total joke, sad truth is it's almost entirely a recreation of someones rant on a different board)
 
DCharlie said:
man this place is TAME compared to some of the other l337 boards out there!

The usual pattern is that the boards are full of true enthusiasts, who i have no issue with, but there'll be one or two dickheads who are like

"128-bit machines forment laziness"
"All 3d games are shit"
"Why won't the X360 and PS3 support true low res modes so i can have true pixel perfect <insert 2d fighting game from 14 years ago>? They are insulting the userbase"

oh and the classic

"This game looks great ... hold on, is this developed in Japan or America??... AMERICA?? f*ck that, it's shit!"

or even bigger classics like

"My favourite RPG is this rare Japanese RPG called "&#12510;&#12531;&#27713;&#39154;&#12416;&#39764;&#27861;&#24525;&#32773;:&#19981;&#24605;&#35696;&#12398;&#12450;&#12490;&#12523;&#22823;&#20882;&#38522;&#12288;2" - it's got a great story, fantastic art and of course is glorious low res 2d (and is by Nippo-Ballsare-ichi's secret Team Chimpo) - limited to 200 copies, it's a great game that only i know about. Of course, i don't speak any Japanese but it's EASY to figure out what is going on, and the 2d graphics make it sooooo easy to figure out what the story is..."

(jesus, i wish that last one was a total joke, sad truth is it's almost entirely a recreation of someones rant on a different board)
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Damn, that is some incredible ignorance on whatever board you are quoting from. Sounds like old bitter nostalgics living in their parents basement.
 
DCharlie said:
"My favourite RPG is this rare Japanese RPG called "ƒ}ƒ“`ˆù‚Þ–‚–@”EŽÒF•sŽv‹c‚̃Aƒiƒ‹‘å–`Œ¯@‚Q"
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:lol :lol
 
If anything people who scorn everything but 2D should denounce PSP most of all since it's purpose seems to be directly compete with two of the last remaining pillars of 2D gaming.

Didn't the Metroidvania creator recently say in an interview that he thinks a 2D Castlevania wouldn't be possible on PSP because Sony would never give it a green light?

PSP is a revolutionary effort to bring the amazing 3D sameness of console games to portable form.

... I'm starting to see where one might turn into a 2D nerd. Still I find some comments made by them to be rather annoying.
 
I'm going to go sit in a corner and enjoy what you tell me to enjoy.

Seriously, there are formats that work better in 2D than 3D. No reason to be overly generalizing in either way.
 
I'm the worst kind of nerd.

No, actually, if it was originally in 2D, keep it in 2D. If you want a 3D game, make a new franchise. Simple!

Though in Zelda's case, it works in both 2D and 3D.
 
DCharlie said:
man this place is TAME compared to some of the other l337 boards out there!

The usual pattern is that the boards are full of true enthusiasts, who i have no issue with, but there'll be one or two dickheads who are like

"128-bit machines forment laziness"
"All 3d games are shit"
"Why won't the X360 and PS3 support true low res modes so i can have true pixel perfect <insert 2d fighting game from 14 years ago>? They are insulting the userbase"

oh and the classic

"This game looks great ... hold on, is this developed in Japan or America??... AMERICA?? f*ck that, it's shit!"

or even bigger classics like

"My favourite RPG is this rare Japanese RPG called "&#12510;&#12531;&#27713;&#39154;&#12416;&#39764;&#27861;&#24525;&#32773;&#65306;&#19981;&#24605;&#35696;&#12398;&#12450;&#12490;&#12523;&#22823;&#20882;&#38522;&#12288;&#65298;" - it's got a great story, fantastic art and of course is glorious low res 2d (and is by Nippo-Ballsare-ichi's secret Team Chimpo) - limited to 200 copies, it's a great game that only i know about. Of course, i don't speak any Japanese but it's EASY to figure out what is going on, and the 2d graphics make it sooooo easy to figure out what the story is..."

(jesus, i wish that last one was a total joke, sad truth is it's almost entirely a recreation of someones rant on a different board)
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I have no idea what you're talking about, but I'm gonna go to the living room to play Ikaruga, Beyond Good and Evil, and hell, maybe put in a few hours of Ico.
 
I didn't like MP because it had aa First person view, not because it was in 3D. But I agree with you overall.

Though, I would love to see more 2D games on consoles. :)
 
chrysostom said:
If a game is well made it doesn't matter if it's 2d or 3d.
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And on the same token, some games are bad because they chose to use 2d or 3d instead of the other.

Striek said:
2D is in on its last legs, in its death throes, and we're all better for it.

Hurrah! Long live 3D!
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See, you still get stupid shit like this, so the camps are both fairly plump.
 
This thread is A+.

And who the FUCK doesn't like 3D Zelda. Its way better than 2D Zelda ever was.
 
RevenantKioku said:
And on the same token, some games are bad because they chose to use 2d or 3d instead of the other.
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I can't think of any off the top of my head. Do you have anything particular in mind?
 
Geek said:
This thread is A+.

And who the FUCK doesn't like 3D Zelda. Its way better than 2D Zelda ever was.
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No 3D Zelda has trumped Link's Awakening, as good as they may be.
 
Geek said:
This thread is A+.

And who the FUCK doesn't like 3D Zelda. Its way better than 2D Zelda ever was.
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No. 2D zeldas still have more detailed worlds with more stuff to do.
 
chrysostom said:
I can't think of any off the top of my head. Do you have anything particular in mind?
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I guess I can't say that the game itself would be better if you add subtract a dimension, but more so what the series is known for hasn't been replicated well in the other.
 
as menioned by Lemur, ...

2d leetists LOVE 2d... but they HATE the GBA!!!

"We want a proper home 2d console, not this useless piece of crap"

So they happily miss out on awesome 2d gaming, whilst comparing what comes out to something "better" on the SNES.

Generalisation there, but hell...
 
Lemurnator said:
If anything people who scorn everything but 2D should denounce PSP most of all since it's purpose seems to be directly compete with two of the last remaining pillars of 2D gaming.

Didn't the Metroidvania creator recently say in an interview that he thinks a 2D Castlevania wouldn't be possible on PSP because Sony would never give it a green light?

PSP is a revolutionary effort to bring the amazing 3D sameness of console games to portable form.

... I'm starting to see where one might turn into a 2D nerd. Still I find some comments made by them to be rather annoying.
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that's bullshit lemurs, if so why is capcom churning 2.5D games on the PSP? I say IGA just doesn't want to make games for the PSP that's all.
 
Klonoa for PS2 was the last 2d game I really enjoyed. Most GBA 2d games are just rehases of past games.


Vewtiful joe sucked.
 
I forgot to mention that VP:Lenneth is essentially a 2d game, the game is getting ported to PSP. I don't see Sony giving crap to SE because of that, same as Devil Summoner straight port of the Saturn game again Sony didn't say shit.

I find IGA's excuse very stupid.
 
Geek said:
This thread is A+.

And who the FUCK doesn't like 3D Zelda. Its way better than 2D Zelda ever was.
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guess what I don't like 3D Zelda. I'm sorry you people who don't enjoy 2D. I guess you were too young and still on the tit to have lived them proper.
 
Geek said:
This thread is A+.

And who the FUCK doesn't like 3D Zelda. Its way better than 2D Zelda ever was.
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IMO, you're clearly wrong.

2D Zeldas have much richer and deeper gameplay, larger worlds, and much better overworld and dungeon designs.
 
I'm not saying I dislike 2D.

I'm just saying that denouncing a GREAT game like Majora's Mask just because it's not 2D is fucking stupid.

A game with a 2D linage can still be great in 3D and vice versa. Just because they're 3D doesn't automatically mean they're shit.
 
Ecrofirt said:
IMO, you're clearly wrong.

2D Zeldas have much richer and deeper gameplay, larger worlds, and much better overworld and dungeon designs.
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And yet the 3D ones remain very solid titles. It's just nice we're still getting the 2D ones on the GBA.
 
Lemurnator said:
I'm not saying I dislike 2D.

I'm just saying that denouncing a GREAT game like Majora's Mask just because it's not 2D is fucking stupid.

A game with a 2D linage can still be great in 3D and vice versa. Just because they're 3D doesn't automatically mean they're shit.
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Can, yes. But when you look at some series, like Castlevania, since Symphony, we've gotten what, 4 handheld games and 4 3D games, right? And the 4 handheld ones slap all the console ones around, but probably could have been even more awesome on a higher tech machine. But it doesn't happen, so I can see where the griping comes from, even though the people are shit-all in the brain.
 
Huh. I guess it's just me. I found Link's Awakening pretty forgettable. And the one with the hat... Minish Cap, also pretty snooze-worthy. And Oracle of Seasons... God, I wanted to fucking dropkick that game.

Maybe it's just me, but I found Onarica of Time and Wind Waker to be much more enjoyable than anything past Link to the Past (which I admittedly haven't played in 10 years) and I enjoyed the combat far more thanks to the Z-targeting.

It's just the opposite for 3D Castlevanias, however. They're all trash compared to their 2D brethren.

Ecrofirt said:
2D Zeldas have much richer and deeper gameplay, larger worlds, and much better overworld and dungeon designs.
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I'll agree with you on overworld designs, but I like the 3D iterations dungeons quite a bit. And how is the gameplay "richer and deeper" in 2D?
 
You know, I think the two formats can co-exist, but the 3D Metroids just don't compare to the 2D ones. I love the 3D Zeldas, Mario 64 is just fine with me, but first person Metroid isn't the kind of experience I was expecting from next-gen. Don't get me wrong, I still love the Prime games, but Zero Mission and Fusion are just more fun to me. And, as stated above, the last handheld Castlevanias are much better than their 3D counterparts.

But, like I said, there's nothing wrong with 3D. I would just like 2D to keep getting supported, I enjoy 2D games quite a bit.
 
The Metroidvania series has a lot in common with the Metroid series in that it's not the easiest game to make into 3D. Traditional action Castlevania may be different but it isn't easy to capture the same type of exploration from Castlevania and turn it into 3D into a third person perspective. I don't think you can ever expect there to be a 3D castlevania on par with Metroidvania.

Just appreciate the games for what they are as long as they're not trying to be something they can never be.
 
Lemurnator said:
Wah Wah. The "3D SUCKS 2D IS GOD THE GAME SUCKS IN 3D 2D FTW" is the most common and irritating post I see on these forums. Countless posts in countless threads are filled with bitching over how Zelda sucks since it's not 2D.
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Someone fix the damn camera then. NintendON get.
 
Lemurnator said:
The Metroidvania series has a lot in common with the Metroid series in that it's not the easiest game to make into 3D. Traditional action Castlevania may be different but it isn't easy to capture the same type of exploration from Castlevania and turn it into 3D into a third person perspective. I don't think you can ever expect there to be a 3D castlevania on par with Metroidvania.

Just appreciate the games for what they are as long as they're not trying to be something they can never be.
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Why are you bitching about people that express exactly the same then?
 
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