Final Fantasy XV Multiplayer Expansion - First Look + Closed Beta August 3rd
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Telephone Man
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Are efforts being made to make the main story itself more interesting?
I haven't looked into it much, but I just keep seeing people talk about about Square making isolated DLC episodes and sprinkling new features here and there. And that kinda bothers me.
Worried that when I do play it (waiting for when support ends, even better if there's a Complete release) that it'll feel more like a Frankenstin monster than a full, coherent experience.
I haven't looked into it much, but I just keep seeing people talk about about Square making isolated DLC episodes and sprinkling new features here and there. And that kinda bothers me.
Worried that when I do play it (waiting for when support ends, even better if there's a Complete release) that it'll feel more like a Frankenstin monster than a full, coherent experience.
Too late, that's exactly what it was from day 1.
Telephone Man
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SoulUnison
Banned
This has the potential to be Final Phantasy Star Online, and I am cautiously ecstatic.
I have the Season Pass, but I don't sub to PS+, though. Paying for a month to play what's probably a relatively short beta for a few days seems...irresponsible.
Is there anywhere to look for one of those short time trial codes, or something?
I have the Season Pass, but I don't sub to PS+, though. Paying for a month to play what's probably a relatively short beta for a few days seems...irresponsible.
Is there anywhere to look for one of those short time trial codes, or something?
Nope, never was supposed to be. I don't think patching in co-op for the main game would be that trivial to balance with all the different gameplay styles of the other characters from their respective DLC episodes and different Techniques than in the main game. Like, how would they handle ammunition and different weapon types for Prompto? Surely not by suddenly adding ammo supplies and weapon stashs everywhere on the maps. Maybe a cooldown timer instead of ammo with the stronger weapons obviously having a longer period?
Also every part of the game where the team splits up and your current character wasn't with Noctis they'd have to either make it switch to Noctis or add playable sections for the other characters (e.g. during the Titan section where only Noctis and Gladio are together for a while).
It would be way too much work and rebalancing for something that would probably make the game feel even more like a Frankenstein's monster of half-baked gameplay mechanics. I already didn't like this idea when Nomura wanted to do that in Versus.
There is a 14-days trial for PS+ on PSN, yeah. Will use that too for the beta and if it's fun I'll get a 1 month sub or so for the full thing.
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstation-plus/
Supermanisdead
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Do they really expect people to pay for a multiplayer DLC and sub to ps+ for a 10 month old game? Everyone's moved on. Should have just made this a standalone game.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Well I'm sure those with the season pass are interested and eventually they'll have a version with all the content together for those that haven't picked this up.
pentium486
Neo Member
Isn't it possible to create a new PSN account, use the 2-week trial phase of PS+ (set it as a main account so the other accounts can use it) and then after that is over make a new PSN account and repeat?
Hm, could work, but I'm no expert with this PSN stuff. Are save games tied to your PSN account? You'd have to start a new save game for the multiplayer DLC if you make a second acount after the first trial is up though, no? They said you can transfer your build from the beta to the full version, that's why I'd rather have it all in my main account to keep the progress during the beta.
Johnlenham
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I've read the OP and still can't work out what this is?
Paid multiplayer add-on for FF monster hunter?
Paid multiplayer add-on for FF monster hunter?
Hentailover
Member
You can set account as primary and technically, all other accunts on that PS4 will have ps+ online access.. after trial is done, just delete that account, make new one, set primary, enjoy 2 more weeks.
While I agree that the quest system is utter shit (they added ONE new type of WoW-type quest in SB where you zoom in on things and spy on them or shoot blowdarts at them), that's not the be-all end-all of gameplay - the game excels in its storytelling and highly choreographed boss fights.
Yes. I mean the OP says it all. Co-op questing and hunting (or with AI-controlled partners if you want to play alone) separate from the main game with customized characters (main characters will be made playable at a later date). Singleplayer and multiplayer sidequests with storylines. Not sure if it's set in the same world or a new area.
Okay, do you have to start a new save game every time you set a new main account? Or could you make a new primary account but play with the same sub account and keep your progress with every new trial?
sotojuan
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Looks like SE just can't let this game die. The thing that's so annoying with it is that you can smell miles away the desperation with which they're trying to sell the game/keep it relevant to get a proper return on investment.
And they're asking people what DLC they want next? Just move on. Put those resources towards FFVIIR or FFXVI.
And they're asking people what DLC they want next? Just move on. Put those resources towards FFVIIR or FFXVI.
Read it again, ye blind follower - I'm commenting on how these modes have improvements to the base game... but are cordoned off and never retroactively improve the base game, which is kind of the most important mode. No one is going to give a shit about this half ass multiplayer mode when the servers go down, but they will remember the shoddy main game.
You rush to lavish praise on these things and then when they release and you can't even visit the locations in the DLC's, somehow everyone has convenient amnesia about half of the things discussed leading up to it.
Papo Swing
Member
I mean the story had shades of great potential that they left untouched. I feel they could make a directors cut version and add 3 or 4 scenarios and make it whole-er.
TwilightPrincess
Member
The story has some importance in J-RPGs though. Also the characters where bad and the game won't be complete even with the DLC... So no, It's not redeemed for me, it's a bad JRPG with an mediocre-ok battlesystem..
Yet Kingdom Hearts is successful enough and the history is a hot mess
Ah yes, they must be very desperate to sell the game. I mean its not like its the fastest selling title in the franchises history or anything.
You may think the game was a massive failure, but the reality is the game sold very well, especially considering its troubled journey to reach release. Judging by this thread, looks like people are looking forward to actually trying this out too.
EDIT: Fastest selling, not best selling!
KH rides on Disney's popularity, not to mention the gameplay is loads of fun.
TheSpoiler
Member
God I love the salt. People pretending like this wasn't a financial success for SE and are desperate when in reality this game sold a fuckton and did well. Hold that L son.
TwilightPrincess
Member
I never played a Kingdom Hearts game and so i don't know how good or bad the story is. I only know that FF 15 isn't a good Final Fantasy.
They could have made a good game out of the raw material, but sadly they haven't. They would have to rewrite and remake the whole game to make it better, some added scenarios won't do that. And I would gladly take a new and better FF 16 than a remake of a game I already own and didn't like.
I'm sure on some planet that statistic is true.
But your weak link is... this is Earth.
(FF7 is the best selling title in the franchise's history)
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Yep. People really catch feelings over this game for some reason.
TwilightPrincess
Member
It sold well, but hurt the franchise. Many people didn't really like what they played.
@Arkeband: And FF 7 wasn't in a 10 year long development hell.
TheSpoiler
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『Inaba Resident』;244643940 said:
Yeah some dudes always gotta lay down an excuse.
Source for that? Or are you basing this on a hyperbolic internet echo chamber?
Edit: Like, think about what you wrote. If all these people didn't like what they played, that means the fastest selling FF game in the series that did well in sales duped millions of people. Usually if a game is super bad, word would get out, but FF15 is such a special case that millions were continuously duped over time!
That's the point.
Other things can carry jrpgs to success besides story
It's bad
It's a fun game still. And a better final fantasy than the XIII trilogy so that's already promising.
Demoskinos
Member
To each his own I guess but i'm legit confused by people who are excited for this. It looks so unneeded to me. Base game is fine but I just don't get why there needs to be a paid MP expansion like... how much of a player base can this thing actually have?
djplaeskool
Member
Actually pretty interested to see how this goes.
Consider me in.
Edit:Sweet Etro, why are people so salty about the game getting content? Sheesh
Consider me in.
Edit:Sweet Etro, why are people so salty about the game getting content? Sheesh
Sure, but in FF's case, story has always been a central point, and XV came up short in that department.
Fastest selling is about sales within a short period, not over an extended time, which makes sense considering it had ridiculous preorder numbers and was up for preorder for 10 years.
Do you guys even read what you write? I just debunked it being the best selling title ever and before that even gets responded to we're changing what "fastest selling" even means to fit a narrative.
"I JUST REALLY LIKE IT OK GAWD"
Story being a central point never saved XIII from being a disaster.
FFXV always positioned itself as a different game more focused on expanding the player base and being as playable for first timers as for fans.
TheSpoiler
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Nowhere did I say that this game was the best selling, so I don't know why you quoted me.
TwilightPrincess
Member
That's what i hear and see on the internet, also the psn statistics, not too many made it through the whole game and it was short and easy for a Final Fantasy. Are there even new sales numbers or is Square Enix still selling the initial shipment of over 6 Mio. Also it was reduced in price very fast.
Speaking for myself, Final Fantasy's most interesting aspects were always its combat and progression systems, along with optional (endgame) content and min-maxing. The story I could usually take or leave.
Lights and Waves
Member
Agreed :/
If they have a team in place JUST for FFXV, I'd rather they spent money/resources on fixing FFXV rather than adding new modes. They should be focused on adding what the game desperately needs versus tacking on more shit that people will play for 5 seconds and then drop.
XIII's story sucked and was literally stitched together from different setpieces they had lying around. And you can't deny they didn't at least "try" to sell XV on its story as well as its gameplay, otherwise we wouldn't have movies and animes based on it.
TwilightPrincess
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That's why they split the content on several media (anime, film, game) and release integral parts of the story as DLC months after the game released? Good job. Also the story and antagonists being bad and unfinished hasn't anything to do with making the game accessible in my opinion.
I wish everyone fun with the multiplayer who liked the experience, i'm not gonna touch this game anymore.
I believe they were mostly trying to sell the FFXV multiverse idea (for various products) than FFXV the game being story driven (they would have put the story segments on it instead of other media if they were)
Near release the entire focus of the promotional material was the gameplay and the open world. People were expecting Versus when the game had already changed their priorities a long ago
Yes? One thing doesn't stop the other from being true. The game is still more playable for first timers due to its design changes and lack of connections to previous titles than any other Final Fantasy. The rest is just like you stated, your opinion. Story and antagonists arent worse than almost half of the other final fantasy games for me. It's nowhere near the high points of the series but it's on par with the low (and better than the bottom of the barrel called FFXIII)
Too bad you're not sticking around though
TheSpoiler
Member
Where do you think a better conclusion could be drawn as to if people were tricked into buying a game.
a.) A bunch of angry people on the internet
or
b.) an objective number of sales
Especially when the former can be influenced by confirmation bias. And PSN stats are of a similar look for many, many games. Most people don't beat games, update their trophies, etc. It's not a good place to draw definitive data.
And reductions in price happen very fast for like any game this generation barring Nintendo games.
None of this correlates to your original point - people didn't like what they played. I need to see objective data pertaining to that. It's fine to say "man, I've seen some bad reception", but some of y'all just get definitive because you don't like this game.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
FFXV had a 5 million initial shipment, they quickly had to ship an additional million units in december alone (the most competitive month of the year) the only way that would be possible is with good word of mouth.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
500k people filled out their survey a couple of months ago, so id presume at least that many are still interested in logging in from time to time.
No this won't work. There is a limit to that.