Jimquistion: Nintendo's SNES Classic Preorder Nonsense

How are they supposed to stop scalpers then? As long as there's a middleman being forced into the transaction, the paying customer always loses. Even if they do make more or charge more, someone else will control the supply and price.
 
There's also the product. The NES sold over 60 million units in the USA. The SNES sold under 25 million in the USA. More people have nostalgia for the NES than have nostalgia for the SNES. There's a chance that the SNES Classic might perform closer to the many Genesis Direct to TV units that are out there.

But you're pre-emptively scheduling manufacturing. That's what a Make Order is. "Here is how many we want by this time, can you work with our schedule." "We will try, but could you adjust it to this amount with in this amount of time?"

It's not manufactured scarcity. There's also the people who will go and doodle around with off market ROMs and Raspberry Pi units instead of purchasing one. Those people are not the target audience for an SNES Classic or an NES Classic.

*It sold close to 34 million in the United States which is crazy considering it was on the market from '85-95. Even the PS2 must not have sold 60 million in the US.
 
It's called not being a fan boy and speaking with your wallet. People do the same shit with Apple all the time. Apple does something that pisses off a large portion of their user base and then they still buy the apple shit cause its Apple. Which then the company does more and more bullshit cause they get away with it and still make bank.

Nintendo does the same thing and people are getting tired of it. If it was only a recent trend than sure, total over reaction. But Nintendo has a huge track record on shit like this. They make a ton of baffling dumb decisions and people still buy their shit cause Nintendo.

Not boycotting everything Nintendo or Apple sells is an awfully low entry requirement into the raving fanboy club. 21.5 million iPhone 7s were sold as of May, that's enough to fill a small nation of raving fanboys.

If Im not happy with a company's practices and they let me down constantly, I'm not going to support them.

Not seeing how thats an overreaction.

Because, to me, going from buying every product to boycotting an entire company, even the games that are in no way affected by their bad decisions, is ridiculous. It's endemic to a mind-set which allows no middle ground, where you're either an "honest pro-consumer advocate" or a raving fanboy. Not being able to buy some frivolous bullshit is such a petty reason for boycotting that, yes, I consider it an overreaction and, as Chindogg said, terrible reasoning.
 
I'm curious how you were let down? People keep saying this, but I just don't see what the problem is? Their products are super popular so you can't get it when you want?

Because its been a reoccuring theme with Nintendo for years.

I couldnt find Fire Emblem Awakening in store for weeks

I didnt even see the Wind Waker HD Limited
Edition go up for sale.

I wanted the Fire Emblem Fates Limited Edition (the only way to get all 3 games on 1 cart) and despite keeping a close eye everywhere still didn't get one. Thankfully a fellow GAFer hooked me up at cost.

Couldnt get a Breath of the Wild Master Edition.

Metroid 2pack amiibo was up for less than 30 mins yesterday for us Canadians.

NES/SNES Classic shenanigans.

I wont even get into all the amiibo over the years. Its been building up over the years, I didnt just wake up one day and decide I was done with Nintendo. Despite what they say about doing better next time, they've only gotten worse with it over the years.
 
No one I grew up with called it a Snez, y'all crazy.

S-N-E-S

Where I lived in Texas it was called the sness. I never heard anyone call it the snez.

Because its been a reoccuring theme with Nintendo for years.

I couldnt find Fire Emblem Awakening in store for weeks

I didnt even see the Wind Waker HD Limited
Edition go up for sale.

I wanted the Fire Emblem Fates Limited Edition (the only way to get all 3 games on 1 cart) and despite keeping a close eye everywhere still didn't get one. Thankfully a fellow GAFer hooked me up at cost.

Couldnt get a Breath of the Wild Master Edition.

Metroid 2pack amiibo was up for less than 30 mins yesterday for us Canadians.

NES/SNES Classic shenanigans.

I wont even get into all the amiibo over the years. Its been building up over the years, I didnt just wake up one day and decide I was done with Nintendo. Despite what they say about doing better next time, they've only gotten worse with it over the years.

I feel bad, man, you're just unlucky or not on top of things. I've gotten all of the collector's editions I've wanted from them. Even got the Fates combo pack. You really need to keep track of Amazon and the like on a regular basis. I had no problems with this even when I lived in Japan and getting North American collector's editions was hard as hell to get. I've come to the conclusion that rare Nintendo stuff is indeed rare and will be hard to get and so I make extra effort to get them and have been successful so far. They are rare things and will be rare. There's no reason to get upset about that. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, but also where you live can make this harder, but that's a different matter altogether.
 
How are they supposed to stop scalpers then? As long as there's a middleman being forced into the transaction, the paying customer always loses. Even if they do make more or charge more, someone else will control the supply and price.

The best way is to probably do direct sales with a pre-order on their site and make as many pre-orders as they get. The problem with that is that it removes retailers from the equation, which unfortunately is still a cornerstone of the video game industry. They can't just go direct for their hardware.
 
Because, to me, going from buying every product to boycotting an entire company, even the games that are in no way affected by their bad decisions, is ridiculous. It's endemic to a mind-set which allows no middle ground, where you're either an "honest pro-consumer advocate" or a raving fanboy. Not being able to buy some frivolous bullshit is such a petty reason for boycotting that, yes, I consider it an overreaction and, as Chindogg said, terrible reasoning.

Speak for yourself. Frivolous bullshit to you, not to me. My decision to boycott Nintendo is based on my thoughts and experiences. If you cant see why someone wouldnt want to put up with it anymore then I dont know what to tell ya.
 
Speak for yourself. Frivolous bullshit to you, not to me. My decision to boycott Nintendo is based on my thoughts and experiences. If you cant see why someone wouldnt want to put up with it anymore then I dont know what to tell ya.
Fanboys. Fanboys everywhere.

Where I lived in Texas it was called the sness. I never heard anyone call it the snez.



I feel bad, man, you're just unlucky or not on top of things. I've gotten all of the collector's editions I've wanted from them. Even got the Fates combo pack. You really need to keep track of Amazon and the like on a regular basis. I had no problems with this even when I lived in Japan and getting North American collector's editions was hard as hell to get. I've come to the conclusion that rare Nintendo stuff is indeed rare and will be hard to get and so I make extra effort to get them and have been successful so far. They are rare things and will be rare. There's no reason to get upset about that. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, but also where you live can make this harder, but that's a different matter altogether.
I can't even....
 
So people are basically upset at the concept of a limited edition product? Is that what's pushing everyone's buttons?
People have extrapolated that to Nintendo hating them and their dogs.

Thank god they never try to buy any other limited edition products like sneakers...
 
So someone knows that stuff will be rare and takes necessary steps to get said rare thing is somehow strange? I don't even know what to say....
I don't know what other necessary steps I could have taken on Tuesday to get one of these things, I honestly don't. So you telling me that I should just "do better" about having literal seconds to complete a purchase at an unknown time in the middle of the day or night is baffling

Additionally, the company themselves have explicitly communicated that it should be easier this time due to the increased quantity and that hasn't been true. I'm glad that you're able to get all the things you want though, that's really neat
 
Speak for yourself. Frivolous bullshit to you, not to me. My decision to boycott Nintendo is based on my thoughts and experiences. If you cant see why someone wouldnt want to put up with it anymore then I dont know what to tell ya.

Well, when I can google "_____ shortages" and find articles like this:

PS4 Shortages Could Last Until April
Sony Needs to Solve PS4 Pro PSVR Stock Shortages
Why is the PSVR Aim Controller Impossible to Find?
Shortages spoil 360 launch
Microsoft is Having Kinect Shortages
Xbox One Elite Controller Shortages Expected Through March 2016

boycotting Nintendo exclusively seems like, say it with me now, an overreaction. Especially since most of those are for the very consoles themselves, not tiny figures, novelty stocking-stuffers or limited editions with an artbook. Every single company with a successful, highly-demanded product will have stock shortages; every single one except maybe Apple. Nintendo has been incompetent in the past but, as those articles suggest, so has everyone else; supply and demand is a complicated issue; going "boycott!!!!" at a few products in Nintendo's entire line of products being lapped up by scalpers or handled improperly by retailers just turns that complicated issue into one of right-and-wrong.

It's not exactly selfless either. As evidenced above, every company suffers from stock issues and most every person has suffered from said stock issues before. Your Persona 5 Collector's Edition? Selling for £200 new or £150 used here in the UK. The PS4 Pro?
Here's a thread of fellow GAFfers with many complaints about not being able to buy one. Are you going to boycott ATLUS and Sony?

So, yeah, I consider it an over-reaction.
 
So someone knows that stuff will be rare and takes necessary steps to get said rare thing is somehow strange? I don't even know what to say....

It happens with their products all the time and giving the excuse "i got one" doesnt justify anything.

I just keep telling my friends if they cant find an amiibo they want anymore to just buy fan made amiibo cards or get a powersave device. Same thing will happen for Star Fox 2 by the way when the rom gets dumped.

No reason to reward Nintendo or a scalper with money.
 
Well, when I can google "_____ shortages" and find articles like this:

PS4 Shortages Could Last Until April
Sony Needs to Solve PS4 Pro PSVR Stock Shortages
Why is the PSVR Aim Controller Impossible to Find?
Shortages spoil 360 launch
Microsoft is Having Kinect Shortages
Xbox One Elite Controller Shortages Expected Through March 2016

boycotting Nintendo exclusively seems like, say it with me now, an overreaction. Especially since most of those are for the very consoles themselves, not tiny figures, novelty stocking-stuffers or limited editions with an artbook. Every single company with a successful, highly-demanded product will have stock shortages; every single one except maybe Apple. Nintendo has been incompetent in the past but, as those articles suggest, so has everyone else; supply and demand is a complicated issue; going "boycott!!!!" at a few products in Nintendo's entire line of products being lapped up by scalpers or handled improperly by retailers just turns that complicated issue into one of right-and-wrong.

It's not exactly selfless either. As evidenced above, every company suffers from stock issues and most every person has suffered from said stock issues before. Your Persona 5 Collector's Edition? Selling for £200 new or £150 used here in the UK. The PS4 Pro?
Here's a thread of fellow GAFfers with many complaints about not being able to buy one. Are you going to boycott ATLUS and Sony?

So, yeah, I consider it an over-reaction.


That's some great whataboutism.

I guess we should all stop discussing just how horribly Nintendo handles their "limited edition" consoles, since you know, other companies have had a bit of trouble before.
 
People have extrapolated that to Nintendo hating them and their dogs.

Thank god they never try to buy any other limited edition products like sneakers...

I live in a country where companies constantly do limited editions of things. It's a little disappointing not getting something in time, but that just means you didn't want it bad enough. Nothing wrong with that, limited editions aren't for everyone. But it's nothing to make a hissy fit about and advise people of unauthorized copying, buying knockoffs or boycotting over.


Yukinari said:
No reason to reward Nintendo or a scalper with money.

Well, no reason other than the fact that you are not entitled to a product you didn't pay for and not protected by law to do make copies.
 
I don't know what other necessary steps I could have taken on Tuesday to get one of these things, I honestly don't. So you telling me that I should just "do better" about having literal seconds to complete a purchase at an unknown time in the middle of the day or night is baffling

Additionally, the company themselves have explicitly communicated that it should be easier this time due to the increased quantity and that hasn't been true. I'm glad that you're able to get all the things you want though, that's really neat

I don't mean to "get better", but I do want to say that knowing what you're getting into will help get some things that are hard to get. For example, I knew I was going to pre-order a Nintendo Switch and so I stayed up late that night to wait for Amazon and Best Buy to put up pre-orders. Amazon has a shitty habit of opening pre-orders in the wee hours of the morning for some odd reason. There should have been no surprise that they did the same thing with the SNES Classic. I knew this and planned for it. Just an example, but knowing what you're getting into can help get some of these rare things.

That said, when things are rare, there are good odds that you (or I/we) won't be able to get one. I've lost out on a lot of rare things I've wanted over the years. I don't feel bad about it, because sometimes we win and sometimes we lose, but diligence is key. I'm not going to get mad at a company because I didn't get said rare thing. That's what I don't understand about this whole thing. There's always a chance that even being extremely prepared you'll still lose out (I'm still salty that I didn't get those Temple of the Dog tickets...and even more so now since Chris Cornell is dead...ugh, but I'm not gonna get mad at the band for that).

It happens with their products all the time and giving the excuse "i got one" doesnt justify anything.

I just keep telling my friends if they cant find an amiibo they want anymore to just buy fan made amiibo cards or get a powersave device. Same thing will happen for Star Fox 2 by the way when the rom gets dumped.

No reason to reward Nintendo or a scalper with money.

Man, that's just all kinds of wrong. There are lots of Amiibo I don't have that I want, but that's no reason to pirate them or anything like that. Sheesh. I wanted the Advent Children Cloud Amiibo (it's the one from the new batch that I don't have), but I couldn't get one because Gamestop didn't order enough to meet demand. I'm not upset about this, because it's a rare item and I wasn't lucky. That's how it goes, man.
 
People have extrapolated that to Nintendo hating them and their dogs.

Thank god they never try to buy any other limited edition products like sneakers...

Good thing I compared Nintendo's limited editions to other gaming limited editions and not sneakers.
 
Because its been a reoccuring theme with Nintendo for years.

I couldnt find Fire Emblem Awakening in store for weeks

I didnt even see the Wind Waker HD Limited
Edition go up for sale.

I wanted the Fire Emblem Fates Limited Edition (the only way to get all 3 games on 1 cart) and despite keeping a close eye everywhere still didn't get one. Thankfully a fellow GAFer hooked me up at cost.

Couldnt get a Breath of the Wild Master Edition.

Metroid 2pack amiibo was up for less than 30 mins yesterday for us Canadians.

NES/SNES Classic shenanigans.

I wont even get into all the amiibo over the years. Its been building up over the years, I didnt just wake up one day and decide I was done with Nintendo. Despite what they say about doing better next time, they've only gotten worse with it over the years.

Second time I'm quoting Bronetta in this thread, cuz he's on point!

This is basically me too. Meanwhile from PS4 launches to collectors editions on Sony and Xbox, zero issues. It's still somewhat tough, gotta monitor online stores, but they're up for more than a minute, and not at 3am. Al I've seen year after year is my friends moving onto PS4, Xbos and iOS. I want the brand to grow!!! But if I can't be a normal human shopper and pick up an SNES Classic for my nostalgic friend for x-mas, I surely won't be chasing it, instead reaching for the Steam cards on the nearby rack.

Where I lived in Texas it was called the sness. I never heard anyone call it the snez.

I feel bad, man, you're just unlucky or not on top of things. I've gotten all of the collector's editions I've wanted from them. Even got the Fates combo pack. You really need to keep track of Amazon and the like on a regular basis. I had no problems with this even when I lived in Japan and getting North American collector's editions was hard as hell to get. I've come to the conclusion that rare Nintendo stuff is indeed rare and will be hard to get and so I make extra effort to get them and have been successful so far. They are rare things and will be rare. There's no reason to get upset about that. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, but also where you live can make this harder, but that's a different matter altogether.

True. You speak of reality, and I can appreciate that. The problem now though is there's a frustration point especially as we get older and time becomes more scarce and gaming options more plentiful and higher quality on competitors.
 
That's some great whataboutism.

I guess we should all stop discussing just how horribly Nintendo handles their "limited edition" consoles, since you know, other companies have had a bit of trouble before.

Good thing, then, that we can discuss how horrible Nintendo handles their "limited edition" consoles without boycotting their entire product range.
 
I live in a country where companies constantly do limited editions of things. It's a little disappointing not getting something in time, but that just means you didn't want it bad enough. Nothing wrong with that, limited editions aren't for everyone. But it's nothing to make a hissy fit about and advise people of unauthorized copying, buying knockoffs or boycotting over.




Well, no reason other than the fact that you are not entitled to a product you didn't pay for and not protected by law to do make copies.

It would be nice if consumers stood up and stuck with boycotting a product to potentially change a company but it rarely happens if at all.

As for the copying or knockoffs, i got no qualms about saving money on extremely expensive zelda amiibo because i decided to buy a spoofing device off Gamestops site.
 
Isn't this 100% on retailers? They know damn well you guys are gonna be all up in arms about this and are gonna milk it for everything they can. The demand is insane and they know that. When pre-orders go live is 100% on the retailers and they are to blame for this going up at 1am and stuff like that. People knew from the beginning the SNES classic was going to be rare, though. Nintendo said it initially. So there should be no surprise on that.

I agree that Nintendo should produce enough of these to meet demand, but even if they put 5 million of them on the market, you can bet retailers are going to sprinkle them out as they see fit, because they know people will go out of their way to get them. Just look at retailers that still have stacks of NES Classics that they're trickling out. Nintendo can't force retailers to sell them a certain way or to limit how many can be sold at one time. That's on retailers and they know you guys are going to buy them, so why worry about it?

I've seen Best Buy put up preorders at 1AM before, but retailers aren't trying to do people any favors because they're not making much off these and have nothing else that they can sell you unless it's crappy accessories or force you to buy an expensive bundle. For the most part, they're going to do what they can out of a crap situation because they know how much the classics are in demand and don't want to deal with angry customers who can't get one. Look at how much rage is already out there a month before it releases.

Nintendo has no reason to make these limited, and that's where the problems start. Add NOA's bungling, and you have an ugly situation.

I'll say this again:

Nintendo doesn't want to give everyone who wants it a cheap way to satisfy their demand for Nintendo games without buying into the software they're currently investing in.

Nintendo had nothing else to sell when they decided to produce the NES Classic because the Wii U was a failure. People can't invest in other classic software when there's no product.

Nintendo can easily leverage the SNES Classic and other back catalogs without drawing the ire of so many fans. Instead they rather treat the device like Air Jordans which is spiking demand up.
 
I don't know what other necessary steps I could have taken on Tuesday to get one of these things, I honestly don't. So you telling me that I should just "do better" about having literal seconds to complete a purchase at an unknown time in the middle of the day or night is baffling

Additionally, the company themselves have explicitly communicated that it should be easier this time due to the increased quantity and that hasn't been true. I'm glad that you're able to get all the things you want though, that's really neat

Yeah come on dude, sleep is for people who don't deserve it, you should have been awake for that first surprise attack of preorders. You even had another chance: You had 5000 whole milliseconds to preorder from Walmart. What the fuck were you even doing for all 5000 of those babies? If you have a job then you clearly don't have your priorities straight. Get your shit together. If you really wanted it you would have told your boss to fuck off. SNES is life, all other priorities rescinded. The rest of us have been rotting in our own filth hitting F5 repeatedly since August 15th. I finally got to take a shower on Tuesday.
 
I've seen Best Buy put up preorders at 1AM before, but retailers aren't trying to do people any favors because they're not making much off these and have nothing else that they can sell you unless it's crappy accessories or force you to buy an expensive bundle. For the most part, they're going to do what they can out of a crap situation because they know how much the classics are in demand and don't want to deal with angry customers who can't get one. Look at how much rage is already out there a month before it releases.

Nintendo has no reason to make these limited, and that's where the problems start. Add NOA's bungling, and you have an ugly situation.

Best Buy could have announced when pre-orders were going live or done it in the middle of the day when people were awake, but they didn't. Same with Amazon. That's 100% on them. Nintendo has nothing to do with that. They know that people are going to jump on this system regardless and by opening up pre-orders at 1am did they REALLY stop people from being angry? Judging by this and other threads and the amount of hate I've seen directed towards Amazon and other retailers, I don't think they did. But it doesn't matter, because they know they have consumers by the balls and can do what they want. They'll sell them regardless.
 
Emuparadise not being a torrent site doesn't suddenly make it not piracy.

I don't really care?

bsnes provides a better emulation experience than the SNES classic does, is easily available and most importantly is free!

I would gladly go out and purchase an SNES classic just for the novelty of having one, but seeing how Nintendo has treated is customers why should I really care?
 
I don't really care?

bsnes provides a better emulation experience than the SNES classic does, is easily available and most importantly is free!

I would gladly go out and purchase an SNES classic just for the novelty of having one, but seeing how Nintendo has treated is customers why should I really care?

Be careful, man. Probably not the best topic to be bringing up on this site....
 
Be careful, man. Probably not the best topic to be bringing up on this site....

I'm not too concerned.

I have about ~230+ plus games I've purchased on GOG + Steam on my PC, I've spent about $3000 CAD building a new computer over this summer and I own a Playstation 4 with about 10 games. If someone wants to believe I don't support the industry then they can fuck off! I've already said I would purchase an SNES classic if it was easily available. The price is reasonable from my perspective, and it offers a neat novelty. If Nintendo wants to go the route of making it artificially scarce, then I can easily get my fix from another source.
 
So someone knows that stuff will be rare and takes necessary steps to get said rare thing is somehow strange? I don't even know what to say....


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Man, it's just some fucking novelty item. If they announce that they'll never again be selling Super Mario World and the SNES Mini is your last chance to ever own it, then sure I'd be pissed too. But this is literally just a trinket. The games will be available again on Switch soon enough (and are still currently available via Wii, WiiU and 3DS).

Now who's gonna boycott Sony with me over dropping the entire PS1 library?

*crickets*
 
I'm not too concerned.

I have about ~230+ plus games I've purchased on GOG + Steam on my PC, I've spent about $3000 CAD building a new computer over this summer and I own a Playstation 4 with about 10 games. If someone wants to believe I don't support the industry then they can fuck off! I've already said I would purchase an SNES classic if it was easily available. The price is reasonable from my perspective, and it offers a neat novelty. If Nintendo wants to go the route of making it artificially scarce, then I can easily get my fix from another source.


Why bother with these silly excuses? no one believes that you are not pirating and downloading games you don't own lol

Love the entitlement on display here. You feel you are entitled to own and play something because you couldn't buy it in a store, amazing and apparently Nintendo should go out of business you think we should boycott them forever and someone takes pride in not washing their rear end.

The toxic level in here is killing the ozone layer.
 
Because its been a reoccuring theme with Nintendo for years.

I couldnt find Fire Emblem Awakening in store for weeks

I didnt even see the Wind Waker HD Limited
Edition go up for sale.

I wanted the Fire Emblem Fates Limited Edition (the only way to get all 3 games on 1 cart) and despite keeping a close eye everywhere still didn't get one. Thankfully a fellow GAFer hooked me up at cost.

Couldnt get a Breath of the Wild Master Edition.

Metroid 2pack amiibo was up for less than 30 mins yesterday for us Canadians.

NES/SNES Classic shenanigans.

I wont even get into all the amiibo over the years. Its been building up over the years, I didnt just wake up one day and decide I was done with Nintendo. Despite what they say about doing better next time, they've only gotten worse with it over the years.

The gamestop i pre-ordered the WWHD collectors from almost didnt give me it which was insane.

Completely missed out on the Majora collectors. Went out of stock the day it got announced and never came back.
 
The gamestop i pre-ordered the WWHD collectors from almost didnt give me it which was insane.

Completely missed out on the Majora collectors. Went out of stock the day it got announced and never came back.

It really feels like sometime they learned their lessons of the 3ds/wii u overstock at retailers a bit too much.
 
You admitted to be a haterboy up above (you literally said you wished Nintendo would die), which, while the opposite, is basically just as bad and so means you're really in no position to judge others.

When did I say I wish they would die? lol

Good lord you Nintendo fans are imaginative aren't you?
 
To the people saying it's rare and is a collectible and stop being mad: people being mad that it's rare is entirely logical and acceptable. That is a consequence. Nintendo isn't losing money making these classics. They are making a choice to make this hard to acquire. People will find that frustrating and complain.

This isn't the first time they have done this. It is aggravating and what's worse, there doesn't seem to be a good reason behind it. Making something just for it to be a collectible will piss people off, especially when it's a video game console that hits people in the nostalgia.

How is this hard to understand?
 
Well, when I can google "_____ shortages" and find articles like this:

PS4 Shortages Could Last Until April
Sony Needs to Solve PS4 Pro PSVR Stock Shortages
Why is the PSVR Aim Controller Impossible to Find?
Shortages spoil 360 launch
Microsoft is Having Kinect Shortages
Xbox One Elite Controller Shortages Expected Through March 2016

boycotting Nintendo exclusively seems like, say it with me now, an overreaction. Especially since most of those are for the very consoles themselves, not tiny figures, novelty stocking-stuffers or limited editions with an artbook. Every single company with a successful, highly-demanded product will have stock shortages; every single one except maybe Apple. Nintendo has been incompetent in the past but, as those articles suggest, so has everyone else; supply and demand is a complicated issue; going "boycott!!!!" at a few products in Nintendo's entire line of products being lapped up by scalpers or handled improperly by retailers just turns that complicated issue into one of right-and-wrong.

It's not exactly selfless either. As evidenced above, every company suffers from stock issues and most every person has suffered from said stock issues before. Your Persona 5 Collector's Edition? Selling for £200 new or £150 used here in the UK. The PS4 Pro?
Here's a thread of fellow GAFfers with many complaints about not being able to buy one. Are you going to boycott ATLUS and Sony?

So, yeah, I consider it an over-reaction.

This is a horrible post. Sony kept manufacturing pros. In fact all of those examples you listed never said they were just gunna make them for a few months and call it quits, nor were they only available for a few minutes to pre order.

Honestly, bringing console warz shit into this is pretty pathetic. So what if someone wants to boycott Nintendo for this. No, you can't allow that though lol

if you seriously can't see the difference in literal purposeful scarcity and popular stock just being sold out because they couldn't keep with demand, then I don't know what to tell you. (Which is hilarious because I see you defending the Switch stock situation, which is due to popularity and demand trumping their ability to manufacture)


Sorry, double post. :(
 
Video was on point.

After seeing the NES Classic nonsense, I didnt expect anything to be different this time around.
And it isnt.
 
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