Well youtube is his source of income.
-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
PewDiePie calls someone a "fucking n****r" during PUBG livestream
- Thread starter chaobreaker
- Start date
- Status
You can keep him
He has an astonishing streak for having the worst takes.
Ha always interesting to see how the defenders will spin blatant racism. Surprised to see more defence in the early pages vs thread in OT.
Love how he tired to recover with "I don't mean that in a..."
Love how he tired to recover with "I don't mean that in a..."
Loool defence force truly is something.
I feel the urge to say something good about Brexit
Captin Quacker
Member
awwww so close to bingo
Via Purifico
Banned
Max should not be placed in the same sentence as this asshole, Max came on here and owned it and apologized. Pewds has obviously done this before and used it as an insult.
I wish we should stop with the narrative that Europe doesn't know what the n word is let alone its history.
I wish we should stop with the narrative that Europe doesn't know what the n word is let alone its history.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I'm an average European and I know how loaded is the term. Hell, my sister barely watches any Youtube and she knows.
He's been in America, he is friends with people in America (Ethan from h3h3 for example) and he surely watched enough Internet: shows, movies, videos, news to understand the term.
If you know the word, you now how offensive it is.
Muppet of a Man
Member
Right, that's the point I was trying to elicit. Social media really is antisocial media in the truest sense of the word, even when used by good intentioned people. A huge part of the problem is the reductionist nature in the way communicating is handled plus the fact that anonymity (i.e., lack of accountability) and easily solidified echo chambers (i.e., information bubbles) amplify a predisposition for shitty behavior.
EnlightenedMint
Member
Can't wait to see the WSJ article on this after all the shit they got from idiotic youtubers last time.
What racist piece of shit.
What racist piece of shit.
GhostTrick
Banned
Whoever told you that is ignorant. It's certainly not an healthy environnement for a child. Heck, depending on his age, I'm not sure internet is an healthy environnement to access freely and should be monitored.
UrbanDandy
Member
I just read about this guy. He's something else....
Nah. Huge chunks of America being openly racist assholes suggests otherwise.
paperboywriter
Member
Any YouTube backing him up? Would not be surprised
Just quoting your post since it was this kind of explanation which helped me realise the gravity of the word. It's not "just a word" and people who get upset by it aren't "just special little snowflakes." Words like n***er and f***ot are maybe the most abusive in the English language. Historically, the majority of people who used these words used them to abuse vulnerable minorities, so naturally those minorities have developed a negative association with those words.
It's like if someone was abusing you and they were always calling you... it's difficult to even think of something which would be on the same level, but let's say they called you fatty because you were overweight. If you were abused with that word every day you would soon develop a really negative association with it. Now imagine if your family had been abused, enslaved, and systematically oppressed for generations and the justification was always some bullshit like: "They're just fatties." You probably wouldn't use the word yourself unless it was cathartic somehow, the same way some black people like to use the word n***a, though even then the pronunciation and spelling is usually altered.
It's actually kind of interesting how slurs can later develop positive meanings though. Afaik the word "slut" used to be extremely negative (and probably still is for some people) but in my personal experience the word has almost always been used positively or jokingly. Language evolves. As time moves on and people get further away from the abuse which generated the negative associations, I think the taboo of some words will fade. Like, wasn't Kraut a slur for Germans around WW2? How many Germans today would actually be offended by that word, if they even knew what it meant? Honest question but my intuition tells me not many. Germans were not nearly abused as much or for as long as black people were though so that's likely why.
Continuing with the example of "slut" though, I hope most of us can see how it might be cathartic to take ownership of the word and use it in a positive way on your own terms. And even though the word was mostly used to shame women, it can also be cathartic for men to use the word, since sexual shame in general was something which both genders have faced. There's also something cathartic about swearing in general, saying words like fuck/cunt/bitch or whatever is in some way an assertion of your independence, since those words were forbidden and punished when we were children it feels good to say them as an adult and face no negative consequences. Of course, it's mostly okay to say those kinds of swear words since afaik they haven't been used to systematically abuse any particular group of people. But I do want to point out that white people might get the same kind of rush from using racial slurs, without understanding the full effect those slurs will have on minorities.
I like to think the best of people, I want to believe that PewDiePie is just ignorant about how and why people would be upset by the use of a word like n***er. He used to say f***ot a lot too but then he stopped when his fans were complaining about it. I think he understands that these words upset people but, since he's probably never suffered harsh abuse himself, I don't think he understands why these words upset people. To him, these words are just like dick/fucker/bastard or something. And there's probably a part of his immature brain which feels a need to assert his independence and saying words which people don't want him to say feels like a harmless way to do it. That's what I want to believe, anyway. There's some law/rule of thumb: "Never assume malice when stupidity explains it." Sorry for the super long post, thanks if you read this far
.... What the fuck, can i get some evidence of this?
This isn't some " I don't believe you , I love felix" shit, I just want some time stamps so next time I call this dude out I can have evidence of his fuckery
IrishNinja
Member
this is gaming side so i gotta assume someone's already defended him here, yeah?
also anyone that didn't toss him in the bushes a while back is like-minded or hoping defending him will get their meager YT channel more clicks, no in between
i heard boogie's scheduling a chat, themiddleisagreatplacetobe.gif
can only imagine white supremacist YT is pleased
also jeffree star is prolly calling him an icon
also anyone that didn't toss him in the bushes a while back is like-minded or hoping defending him will get their meager YT channel more clicks, no in between
i heard boogie's scheduling a chat, themiddleisagreatplacetobe.gif
can only imagine white supremacist YT is pleased
also jeffree star is prolly calling him an icon
Yep...I remember hearing "Trump is done"....tons of times during the election.
Your mum calls black people nigger and you think it's not malicious....
I think your mum is a racist.
this is why I roll my eyes whenever people say that these attitudes will simply die off with the older generation
this shit needs to be actively kept in check
TheRazielim
Member
I didn't defend PDP, btw. Just wanted to enlight that the context is different for many parts of Europe, especially poorer people.
Stone Ocean
Member
If someone being a fuckwit ended up making you lose your job, would you worry about your livelyhood or the fact that someone was being racist first?
Max didn't use the word "in a fit of anger", in fact he was only saying tongue twisters when he scored a kill.
I'm pretty sure he means PDP's wasn't a gaff, not Max's. The only gaff being that PDP wasn't among friends only.
What is this bullshit?
Thank you for showing some common sense.
GhostTrick
Banned
Sorry but that's BS. A lot of European country either was involved with colonialism and had the same meaning for the n-word or is now involved enough with the internet to know it's not okay to use this word from an American perspective.
Maybe Eastern Europe (and even then). But in Western Europe ? It's 100% a racial slur, in most translations, french, german or italian. And it's meant for black people. And it had its use during Colonialism.
Er, what? He released a video talking about how celebrities use tragedies for their own agenda. He says that the hurricanes would happen regardless of who was in office for this term.
You could just watch the video instead of believing strangers on the net though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH7wMFrWYoA
TheRazielim
Member
Different language. The word doesn't have the same load to it, and we're from poor background. To call my mom racist because of that, is again, incredibly classist.
Also half of Europe was not involved with colonialism. If it was, then yes.
Messofanego
Banned
Spoiler alert: Your mom is racist.
No it isn't
Suzushiiro
Banned
When the big article about him happened a lot of people defended him as being taken out of context (which wasn't entirely wrong) and IIRC there was a bit of wagon-circling from some Youtubers because of that. With the generally accepted opinion among Youtubers being that that article was the reason for the advertiser crackdown that happened earlier this year it's looking like everyone who makes their living off of Youtube is going to be calling for his head regardless of where they stand politically.
To be fair to Pewdiepie, he did seem to immediately realize he fucked up. You could also maybe argue that it's a little unfair to hold someone who isn't American to American standards of what is and isn't racist. But in the end none of that matters to the people who brought down the Adpocalypse over what happened earlier this year, so it probably shouldn't matter to anyone else.
To be fair to Pewdiepie, he did seem to immediately realize he fucked up. You could also maybe argue that it's a little unfair to hold someone who isn't American to American standards of what is and isn't racist. But in the end none of that matters to the people who brought down the Adpocalypse over what happened earlier this year, so it probably shouldn't matter to anyone else.
UberTag
Member
Can we get a GAF-sponsored movement started to boycott ALL GAMING STREAMS on YouTube until PewDiePie is summarily held accountable for his actions once and for all?
Yeah, that includes Geoff Keighley's E3 coverage.
We need to bleed this entire platform and every gaming streamer on it dry until PewDiePie and his influence on children across the globe are done away with.
Permanently. For good. No more second chances for this rich, racist fuck.
YouTubers won't be able to circle the wagons any more when their very livelihood is at stake.
These aren't "American standards" for what is and isn't racist. These are human standards of decency. Period.
Yeah, that includes Geoff Keighley's E3 coverage.
We need to bleed this entire platform and every gaming streamer on it dry until PewDiePie and his influence on children across the globe are done away with.
Permanently. For good. No more second chances for this rich, racist fuck.
YouTubers won't be able to circle the wagons any more when their very livelihood is at stake.
These aren't "American standards" for what is and isn't racist. These are human standards of decency. Period.
He said 'this' was no gaff, the PDP thing
the Max thing was clearly a gaff, so they shouldn't be compared
The mean of the message doesnt Matter, i have seen online racial injury cases on Court, what exists in any Court country is that there's a bunch of apologist racist judges and lawyers, that think racial injury isnt a crime and try to justify as a mistake, no intention, joke etc.
DaytimeWhiskey
Banned
Because he is a racist
of course he is, total chump.
- Status