bigjeffery
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He hasn't done anything offensive afaik. He's just lame. He's the Seth Meyers of videogame content.
PewDiePie "What a f***ing n*****." out of frustration when his teammate dies.
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He hasn't done anything offensive afaik. He's just lame. He's the Seth Meyers of videogame content.
he should be finished from YouTube. It's infuriating that kids have to listen to this shit
Widdle Puppy
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This is neither here or there I guess, but a recurring point in All in the Family is that the racist main character insisted on referring to his son-in-law as "polack", which his son hated. So I guess it was at least common at some point even if it isn't so much now.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Here's what I don't get.
I can understand people going "he didn't mean it, it's just in the online gaming vernacular". That's still a shitty excuse, but I can understand that excuse.
What really gets me is that people are sticking by him after he said he just forgot the mic was on.
I can understand people going "he didn't mean it, it's just in the online gaming vernacular". That's still a shitty excuse, but I can understand that excuse.
What really gets me is that people are sticking by him after he said he just forgot the mic was on.
Is that better or worse than being the Jimmy Fallon of video game content?
It's true. He was doing a series of nonsensical tongue twisters. He didn't even realize he said it.
bigjeffery
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About what? I'm right about everything I said.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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lol at this point he should just always come up with a different excuse like when Joker tells the story of how he got his scars
Dude, I'll take a normal Youtuber at this point. I thought the guy was a dick to somebody or something.
I just watched the clip, and he is right. He did just twisted his tongue said some silly shit.
It's been in competitive gamer culture since the 90s akaik. It's not going away anytime soon. Xbox Live was a hellhole in 2009, which was the last time I checked. What I've seen of League isn't any better. This stuff just perpetuates itself.
The reason many of us are getting riled up about this case in particular: his attitude fucking sucks and he has too many kids watching who will parrot his behavior. Imagine children of color trying to reconcile this. Anyone old enough to give him a thoughtful pass likely thinks this is a good thing and wants to punch down minority groups.
The reason many of us are getting riled up about this case in particular: his attitude fucking sucks and he has too many kids watching who will parrot his behavior. Imagine children of color trying to reconcile this. Anyone old enough to give him a thoughtful pass likely thinks this is a good thing and wants to punch down minority groups.
The educational youtubers are alright, especially the ones funded by PBS.
kurzesgasgt
Crash Course(Stick to the the science ones)
Adventures in Space Time
are just a few that I really like.
I would sincerely warn you to avoid the tedEd ones though. They sometimes let less than stellar people direct those. If you want more suggestions just ask.
MHWilliams
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Note: This is not an invitation to use them on NeoGAF on regular basis. A slur is a slur. Thanks.
onegoodlogan
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I'm so glad I don't have children right now. I really truly hope the culture around video games is more kind by the time I do.
Right. Did everyone watch the same video. He literally repeats himself without saying the word to "correct" himself after the audible and awkward gasps.
The saddest thing is how unsurprising this is, coming from him
Fans of his at this point probably aren't much better with their vocab
Fans of his at this point probably aren't much better with their vocab
He's right though
Earthbound64
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Watching the clip, Max 100% said it by mistake. He was literally saying gibberish, and the n-word sorta came out.
Pew Die Pie's case is totally different though. PDP got mad and used that word to express anger. It was reflexive, like he was used to saying it. Makes a world of difference.
Yeah, being a realist is admittedly horrible at times. Are you going to tell me I'm wrong though?
That said, I'm obviously against perpetuating it. Many posters are feigning shock on the first page. Do they have a horrible attitude too? People saying reprehensible things in online gaming is old news; I'm arguing against the idea that PDP should get a pass of any kind, like some have suggested.
But my freedom!
Guess it's just a product of changing attitudes, then. Not many people in the US needing to call out Polish (or Italians, or Irish, etc.)
Which I guess is another way in which the n word is an exceptional slur among slurs, as people of African descent have a much longer history of enslavement and discrimination compared to a lot of immigrant groups in the American context.
Zvonimir Boban
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Yep, we just need to wait for the old people like PDP to die out iirc
We're not even talking about gamer culture though. I'll agree that it isn't going to go away any time soon. But that doesn't excuse anyone from using it, especially not someone like PewDiePie, who should know that he has a huge audience and is under a lens so should be aware that he needs to be responsible with what he says. If someone nobody uses the word that's one thing, but it's extremely important that when PewDiePie uses the word that the impact is felt, so others know that this is not acceptable in this society. That will be how gamer culture gradually changes.
bobbychalkers
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I can buy Max saying it as an accident considering that he doesbt have a past string of incidences using slurs and attempts at making edgy "jokes". The only accident PDP made was being caught live.
Hierophant
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it rolls off his tongue so naturally, you'd think he always says it.
bigjeffery
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In my experience it's not a gamer culture thing, it's a "racist 16-30 year old" thing.The two demographics just overlap significantly.
Choppasmith
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What baffles me is all the "But it's not racist where I'm from" people who don't even feel the need to apologize for allegedly not knowing how insulting it is. "It's fine where I'm from, therefore YOU'RE the one not allowed to be upset!" What kind of stupid twisted logic is that?
Earthbound64
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Your attitude toward it is wrong, yes.
Darn old people.
Surely the younger generation will be bett... er...
I was playing PUBG duo with somebody on the GAF PUBG Discord. We got pretty far into the game and had a bit of a good experience throughout it. You can bond in a short time when you've got each other's back. Then we ended up dying pretty late, got like 4th place. Suddenly, the guy I was playing with yells out "FUCKING N****RS!!"
It quickly killed the mood. I asked him if he often uses racial slurs when he is angry and he said yeah it's no big deal. When I said I think it is a big deal and that I'm black, he literally said "Well, people call me a nazi sometimes, but you don't see me getting angr about it."
I don't play with this person anymore.
It quickly killed the mood. I asked him if he often uses racial slurs when he is angry and he said yeah it's no big deal. When I said I think it is a big deal and that I'm black, he literally said "Well, people call me a nazi sometimes, but you don't see me getting angr about it."
I don't play with this person anymore.
The Daily Corncob
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Yeah. I guess it doesn't surprise me, in a way most of the generally good, "woke" people I know who aren't extremely online have some kind of blind spot in one way or another, and from my experience, "Jew stuff" is a more common one, and I'm pretty numb to it. Stuff about Jew gold and whatever is on the more heavy side of the spectrum, but I still occasionally have people say stuff jokingly about, idk like, "can you eat that, is that kosher" or something like that.
I roll my eyes at it, I don't know. I guess to me it just feels more like they're parroting a TV show more than it's coming from a place of abuse or malice, so I don't really let it get to me.
Is that weird? Maybe I've internalized more than I've realized.
MiguelMexMIstery
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Huh, I was wondering why clicking on the quoted post didn't work
didn't know that could happen to accounts
bigjeffery
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I don't know if you're talking about Max here or not, but it sounds as far away from natural as possible when he said it lmao.
For PDP and this guy its clearly a result of them forgetting to not be racist on live TV.
I know it's not cool to give people the benefit of the doubt anymore, and I am loathe to defend Max at all (even though I've been doing it a shitload in this thread), but its clearly a way different situation.
How?
Choppasmith
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Damn, you know things are going down when THAT happens. When I first saw the thread this morning, I assumed it was so big because it was a bumped thread, it just grew really quickly.
excelsiorlef
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Yes you literally are verbatim using the exact same "defense" that I've seen used to justify letting other types of racism slide
Hierophant
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nah i know about Max, i think hes kind of a dipshit but his videos are watchable enough and hes clearly not a racist (i think, hes, again, kind of a dipshit)
pewdiepie has always been trash tho
Such BS excuses. I play tons of shooters on xbox live and PSN. Never in my life have I said the N word to anyone when playing video games. Pewdiepie saying that just shows wtf he really thinks of colored minorities. I seear there's a defense force for everything. Who the fuck randomly says Nigger in anger to a black person. You know exactly what your doing. He's garbage.
hey_monkey
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I missed some posts but I am THRILLED at Campo Santo, except don't call this dude a child. He's not. Otherwise, that's amazing. If the platforms won't stop him, the devs can.
"Jew gold" is a 4chan thing. Bear in mind that some parts of 4chan were also fans of the cartoons of A. Wyatt Mann (read that aloud).
"Kosher" isn't an online thing. It's often used figuratively as a synonym for "acceptable". If anyone's protective about the use of Yiddish by non-Jewish people, I haven't heard it.
Should have called him out on the Discord tbh.
Beyond just gaming culture it's all over the internet
People combined with being anon reveal what they are
He is one of the biggest on one of the biggest sites in the world.
In other places when your bosses find out your racism there's usually consequences so that you don't tarnish their image at the least
Ever notice how people don't often say racial slurs against other races? There are plenty of racial slurs against Asians, Latin Americans, Italians, Irish, Native Americans, Indians, Jews, Middle-Easterners, etc.. Yet for some reason, these people always seem to be finding racial slurs against black people popping out of their mouths, claiming it isn't meant to be offensive towards black people.
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