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[kcxiv]

the heck are you on about?

i honestly can't tell



oh, that nonsense

nevermind :/

to be honest, i cant put into words how i really feel about it. Well i can, but i will get banned. Its just kinda frustrating that i have to censor myself here because well, you get banned/suspended here so easy.

 

[BasedKiliK]

it is, i could say it to you, and guess what? nothing will come of it, its just a word.

eh, i had to edit my post before i get suspended again. lol

Im a bit older then most folks here probably, so it was alot different for me then it is now days. I been through racism from Caucasians At least stereotyped by them, but in all honesty i didnt mind. I would have been scared if i was them as well at least back in the 90's and early 2000's. im also a firm believer in stereotyping. I rather be right then be wrong. lol

Uh, what the actual fuck?

 

[Diabelli]

Swedish chocolate was the worst word pewdiepie could think of...

What a hill to die on.

 

[Ozigizo]

i changed shit around. Its just insane to me, the more power you give a word the more assholes will use it to piss people off.

The word already has power. Maybe you should educate yourself on the history of it?

 

[Fat4all]

I never liked him and his unfunny sense of humour, actively dislike him now after that racial slur and the other racist shit he's said earlier.

I'm not sure why this idiot is still given the time of day, he should be relegated to irrelevancy like he deserves.

I'm mildly annoyed that one of my favourite YouTubers(Jacksepticeye) is a good friend of his. I know Jack has an account here, hopefully this entire saga is making him rethink that friendship.

Didn't he come out against PDP when the "kill all the Jews" stuff went down?

 

[LotusHD]

it is, i could say it to you, and guess what? nothing will come of it, its just a word.

eh, i had to edit my post before i get suspended again. lol

Im a bit older then most folks here probably, so it was alot different for me then it is now days. I been through racism from Caucasians At least stereotyped by them, but in all honesty i didnt mind. I would have been scared if i was them as well at least back in the 90's and early 2000's. im also a firm believer in stereotyping. I rather be right then be wrong. lol

to be honest, i cant put into words how i really feel about it. Well i can, but i will get banned. Its just kinda frustrating that i have to censor myself here because well, you get banned/suspended here so easy.

Uh huh...

 

[GhostTrick]

Of course they won't, because if people have a different opinion they gonna get banned. Either way I'm gonna go back to enjoying his content occasionally and not care that much.

What opinion ? I'm curious on what other opinion you can get that wouldnt get you banned:
1) Replying "who cares" which is thread shitting and adds nothing to the discussion and would be banned in any thread because it's against the rules
2) Replying something like "it's not racist" "he didnt knew" which is silly and is supporting a racist behaviour.

You can argue opinions, you cant argue facts.
And in that case, it isn't a matter of opinions.

 

[Reset]

Waiting for the H3H3 video, right lads? He loves calling people out.

It'll be up right after his Jontron video.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Haven't read the whole thread because it's massive....

But one of the most telling thing is that he said it so naturally. When I'm mad I'll say "son of a bitch" or something, but he most likely uses the N word so often that it's become a natural reaction. Yes, he did realize that he said it right after, but that doesn't excuse him using it.

I don't know how people can defend this. He's a fucking adult who knows what the word means. He's not some 12 year old playing Call of Duty who says it because it's "cool" and their friends are saying it.

No doubt a lot of YouTubers will defend him and claim it's a media witch hunt or some other excuse. When you have such a massive following and are the face of YouTube, every little mistake is going to be examined under a microscope. It's the price of fame.

I would like to see YouTube demonetize or do SOMETHING to his videos/channel. If my videos I made about helping people with depression are demonetized because it isn't "ad friendly", then someone saying the N word should be punished.

Spoiler

He won't because he makes YouTube $$$

Agreed on everything. I remember when I was younger and first started saying bad words. It came out awkward and just...you know....forced? When PDP said that shit in the video, it came out like warm, melted butter. There is 0 chance he isn't throwing the word out regulalrly. Hell, he even half-admits to it by stating he didn't realize his camera was on. Therefore, "I say that word in private."

 

[Gin-Shiio]

Negar is actually the last name of the guy who made it.

What you are saying is nonsense of course. The first sweet of that kind was made in France in the 19th century and titled "tête de nègre", which translated means "head of a negro". Because of its derogatory meaning, that term is not used officially anymore. I can't believe I even looked that up for clarification.

 

[CatPee]

to be honest, i cant put into words how i really feel about it. Well i can, but i will get banned. Its just kinda frustrating that i have to censor myself here because well, you get banned/suspended here so easy.

You will never be one of the "good ones" in those Caucasians' eyes.

 

[Ozigizo]

to be honest, i cant put into words how i really feel about it. Well i can, but i will get banned. Its just kinda frustrating that i have to censor myself here because well, you get banned/suspended here so easy.

So, were you going to post in defence of racists? Because honestly, it's tired and it won't work. Do yourself a favor, stop.

 

[Nightbird]

Another Youtuber called Omni did an opinion piece on this whole thing and I think it's great.

https://youtu.be/5SGlQprN6jk

Especially from 8:50 onwards, where he spits the hard truth.

 

[malboroking]

to be honest, i cant put into words how i really feel about it. Well i can, but i will get banned. Its just kinda frustrating that i have to censor myself here because well, you get banned here so easy.

Ah, so you're a cowardly racist. Can say what you want because the big bad mod team might ban you. Don't even think about why you would get banned, it's obvs because were all just too sensitive. Its actually not that hard not to get banned. Don't say racist, sexist garbage and you won't get banned. Easy as that.

 

[RRockman]

I think in real life something would come of it. In particular, there's a high chance a fist would come quickly for your face.



This is AFTER editing? Holy shit.

Yeah it actually gave me pause. I quoted too slow unfortunately.

Of course they won't, because if people have a different opinion they gonna get banned. Either way I'm gonna go back to enjoying his content occasionally and not care that much.

This is different than just having an "different opinion" about it. People have actually straight up attempted to defend him despite the multitude of reasons that erode any sort of justification that he may have. Especially when you consider his impressionable audience.

Although I guess the fact that you don't really care that he has a low opinon of a whole race tells me volumes about you.

 

[Effigenius]

Haven't read the whole thread because it's massive....

But one of the most telling thing is that he said it so naturally. When I'm mad I'll say "son of a bitch" or something, but he most likely uses the N word so often that it's become a natural reaction. Yes, he did realize that he said it right after, but that doesn't excuse him using it.

I don't know how people can defend this. He's a fucking adult who knows what the word means. He's not some 12 year old playing Call of Duty who says it because it's "cool" and their friends are saying it.

No doubt a lot of YouTubers will defend him and claim it's a media witch hunt or some other excuse. When you have such a massive following and are the face of YouTube, every little mistake is going to be examined under a microscope. It's the price of fame.

I would like to see YouTube demonetize or do SOMETHING to his videos/channel. If my videos I made about helping people with depression are demonetized because it isn't "ad friendly", then someone saying the N word should be punished.

Spoiler

He won't because he makes YouTube $$$

Maybe I just don't watch him enough to know his mannerisms. Well, I don't watch him at all. But it didn't look natural to me. It looked forced and stilted. Like he was trying to find a place to use it. Which is worse, really.

 

[Mass Effect]

to be honest, i cant put into words how i really feel about it. Well i can, but i will get banned. Its just kinda frustrating that i have to censor myself here because well, you get banned/suspended here so easy.

 

[Merc_]

to be honest, i cant put into words how i really feel about it. Well i can, but i will get banned. Its just kinda frustrating that i have to censor myself here because well, you get banned/suspended here so easy.

I love how you readily admit that what you really think is some fucked up shit.

 

[kcxiv]

The word already has power. Maybe you should educate yourself on the history of it?

i know the history about it, i just dont let shit bother me.. im a minority. i have history for my "people" as well, but it doesnt bother me. I have been called stuff too. Unless someone is trying to fight me or cause psychical damage. To me, words mean nothing, especially from people i dont know.

 

[BigDes]

Agreed on everything. I remember when I was younger and first started saying bad words. It came out awkward and just...you know....forced? When PDP said that shit in the video, it came out like warm, melted butter. There is 0 chance he isn't throwing the word out regulalrly. Hell, he even half-admits to it by stating he didn't realize his camera was on. Therefore, "I say that word in private."

Yep, another reason why the, "he was mad so its ok" defense is bullshit. When you get mad you tend to stumble over your words and use the ones that pop most instantly into your head.

So why was this racial slur the first thing that popped into his head? Is it because he uses it regularly? Most likely.

 

[Ozigizo]

i know the history about it, i just dont let shit bother me.. im a minority. i have history for my "people" as well, but it doesnt bother me. I have been called stuff too. Unless someone is trying to fight me or cause psychical damage. To me, words mean nothing, especially from people i dont know.

Ignoring it doesn't make it go away.

And stop beating around the bush and say what you mean. You aren't contributing to this discussion by being obtuse.

 

[PMS341]

to be honest, i cant put into words how i really feel about it. Well i can, but i will get banned. Its just kinda frustrating that i have to censor myself here because well, you get banned/suspended here so easy.

 

[Chille]

What opinion ? I'm curious on what other opinion you can get that wouldnt get you banned:
1) Replying "who cares" which is thread shitting and adds nothing to the discussion and would be banned in any thread because it's against the rules
2) Replying something like "it's not racist" "he didnt knew" which is silly and is supporting a racist behaviour.

You can argue opinions, you cant argue facts.
And in that case, it isn't a matter of opinions.

The more you complain the more attention you give him the more views his streams and videos get, also yes be should not have used that word but I'm sure 90% people here have said stuff in anger during gaming in which they would not of said otherwise. I don't swear much normally but if I'm getting frustrated in a game or hell panicking lol can hear me drop the f bomb and s bomb constantly.

But that's my opinion.

 

[malboroking]

Just words on a sign man, they won't do you no harm.

 

[Aselith]

i know the history about it, i just dont let shit bother me.. im a minority. i have history for my "people" as well, but it doesnt bother me. I have been called stuff too. Unless someone is trying to fight me or cause psychical damage. To me, words mean nothing, especially from people i dont know.

So you take it and roll over. People insult you to your face and you just smile and lap up that sweet spit?

 

[kcxiv]

I love how you readily admit that what you really think is some fucked up shit.

Naw, i just dont let shit bother me like some folks let stuff bother them. Again, im a minority. i been through all of it. Unless someone gets in my face wanting to fight.

If thats fucked up shit, then i guess im fucked up!

 

[Complex Shadow]

Found a longer video (downloaded it just in case) having both instances of Pewdiepie saying the N word:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ro_wpRKpTU
0:35 and 4:42

He doesn't apologise or have any remorse. He just doesn't care. Whoever that other dude is in the stream is just enabling him even more. These white privileged racist trolls who don't have to care about anything.

nah, he totally knew what happened. The whole time you could see it in his face, he knew he fucked up so hard, he even said 'I wanted to keep this up." which means he's gonna take down the stream if he hasn't already. also that asshole playing with him also needs to get taken down a peg or two. Saying shit like "keemstar survived so can you" & "get that dirty bitch".

the worst part is youtube does nothing at all. its not even just pewd, its people like Sargon, and that nobullshit fucker. all these sites like twitter/facebook/youtube do nothing but protect these assholes.

 

[Boke1879]

i know the history about it, i just dont let shit bother me.. im a minority. i have history for my "people" as well, but it doesnt bother me. I have been called stuff too. Unless someone is trying to fight me or cause psychical damage. To me, words mean nothing, especially from people i dont know.

Good for you. Don't tell black people how to feel about a word that has been used and stillis used to put peopled down. We're not even a generation past this shit.

I mean you know damn well why you can't say how you feel because you know it's fucked up.

 

[Devilinthiscity]

to be honest, i cant put into words how i really feel about it. Well i can, but i will get banned. Its just kinda frustrating that i have to censor myself here because well, you get banned/suspended here so easy.

If it was anything like the shit you edited in that one post I doubt I need to hear your take on how you really feel about it.

 

[Fat4all]

i know the history about it, i just dont let shit bother me.. im a minority. i have history for my "people" as well, but it doesnt bother me. I have been called stuff too. Unless someone is trying to fight me or cause psychical damage. To me, words mean nothing, especially from people i dont know.

as long as it doesn't effect you directly, no one else should care about it either?

 

[Chabbles]

Its not just stupidity, if it were a 12 year old you might argue that. What a dumb fuck though whos got influence over millions of kids everyday.

It'll be interesting to see how the next few generations grow in the youtube generation compared to kids who grew up on cartoons and tv.

 

[FTF]

As usual, fuck pewdiepie.

 

[Usobuko]

Waiting for the H3H3 video, right lads? He loves calling people out.

Yup.

My guess is openly soft-condemned and privately high-five for subtly damage control for his Youtube Pal.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Naw, i just dont let shit bother me like some folks let stuff bother them. Again, im a minority. i been through all of it. Unless someone gets in my face wanting to fight.

If thats fucked up shit, then i guess im fucked up!

It's fucked up if you try to convince someone else to not be offended by it. You're allowed to not be bothered by the word and think what you will of it...cool...just realize others don't feel the same. Oop...he gone.

 

[Ozigizo]

But that's my opinion.

And it's bad.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

Of course they won't, because if people have a different opinion they gonna get banned. Either way I'm gonna go back to enjoying his content occasionally and not care that much.

Comparing PDP saying nigger twice during stream to chocolate in Sweden isn't a difference of opinion. It's just being a disingenuous piece of shit.

I'm tired of this "Europeans dont see the word the same." Brah, he's speaking perfect english during that stream. He isn't mincing languages. He tries to correct himself to saying dude is an asshole.

Can people fuck off with this false equivalency?

 

[Interficium]

Thanks to the mods for taking out the trash, and boy was it a lot of trash.

Who cares

Meh, Hulk Hogan said it and it didn't bother most of GAF.

Some idiot says something stupid online.

Outrage ensues.

Rinse and repeat.

Boring.

why are people so scared and offended by a simple word ?

I'm pretty sure kids were familiar with the word before watching him.

People that like to be offended by bandwith they don't consume, I suppose.

I'd be more interested to hear if any of his actual fans care. I doubt it.

I guess this is the TMZ part of NeoGaf...

It's the world we live in, I notice people like to get offended by everything and anything.

Speaking from what I see around me, that's all.

How many times do you guys play CS:GO or Dota? You hear worse things all the time there

I wonder if in the future "Nigger" will just end up being a insult specifically for mutliplayer gaming community at large and people will forget it's racial origin.

The word is dropped casually in rap music. Its not fair if one person can say it and the other not.

Hate to break it to you but every single person on the face of this earth has used that word. Kind of a common slang.

I don't care for the guy since I don't even follow his videos or anything. He made an ugly mistake, fact, but I think some people just want to destroy him for whatever mistake he commits.

I'm not sure why he said "average racist" but average European person definitely doesn't understand how loaded that word is, especially if you're from poorer backgrounds and English isn't your native language. My mom says n-word when referring to black people and it's not intended as malicious.

It is obviously very undesireable for someone as influential as PewDiePie to signal it's okay to use the word willy-nilly. But all the comments instantly condemning PewDiePie as clearly racist have it wrong. I've only seen proof he's insensitive and kind of a dick so far

When you have a lot of black friends sometimes it just happens.
They say it all the damn time it's only natural to repeat what you hear.

It just rolls off the tongue.

Yeah who could forget such progressive posts like "fuck straight white people" and:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223745679&postcount=23711

This is how people talk in real life. All over the world. The more hours being streamed the more real talk will get in there. Not saying its right

Just finished Mafia 3. I've literally heard this word more than fifty times during my playtrough.

47 Pages.... Really... Reeaaalllyyy.

A European in Europe using a word that largely has a historically negative connotation only in the United States. Americans don't hold a monopoly on language, they butcher all language to overly simplify things globally.

The vast majority of you don't watch Pewdiepie, you likely all swore off him after the Nazi jokes, and likely just want to get in the mandatory "oh my god so offensive" posts. Despite the fact that people here don't follow him, this thread has been consistently bumped to the top since it was posted, where it will stay for the rest of the day. Oh no. A youtuber said a word in a PUBG stream that Americans consider naughty he is now human garbage.

*recreational outrage*

How are some people in this thread upset about N****R and at the same time they're defending someone using the word cracker? Yeah, that's real progress there, guys.

I dont support racism but .....does this need to be on this site? Maybe look to reddit? Just gonna cause issues on a Video game Forum

There's a fucking hurricane coming at me and tore through some of my family already. This isn't high on my priority list.

Don't think PewDiePie did anything wrong, people misspeak, seems he was genuine in knowing he slipped up, he probably shouldn't be using that word, but I don't think he was using it in a way meant to disparage any particular race.

Same level of hate went to Palmer as well.

But mods abusing their powers here is nothing news worthy

Of course they won't, because if people have a different opinion they gonna get banned. Either way I'm gonna go back to enjoying his content occasionally and not care that much.

 

[LionPride]

Who the fuck are you to say "Well I'm not offended by slurs and everyone shouldn't be"

where they do that at

 

[Kebiinu]

to be honest, i cant put into words how i really feel about it. Well i can, but i will get banned. Its just kinda frustrating that i have to censor myself here because well, you get banned/suspended here so easy.

The words you're looking for is, "I'm a racist asshole, and I wish people would tolerate my headass opinions."

Dont say stupid shit, and you won't get banned. Simple.

Edit: Too late.

 

[notaskwid]

to be honest, i cant put into words how i really feel about it. Well i can, but i will get banned. Its just kinda frustrating that i have to censor myself here because well, you get banned/suspended here so easy.

Lol
"Banned"

 

[GLAMr]

the worst part is youtube does nothing at all. its not even just pewd, its people like Sargon, and that nobullshit fucker. all these sites like twitter/facebook/youtube do nothing but protect these assholes.

It's shitty that Youtube doesn't do much about these kinds of bigots. It's faaaar shittier that millions of bigoted assholes overlook it or justify it to keep giving these guys clicks.

 

[NateDrake]

Naw, i just dont let shit bother me like some folks let stuff bother them. Again, im a minority. i been through all of it. Unless someone gets in my face wanting to fight.

If thats fucked up shit, then i guess im fucked up!

You are fucked up (as you put it) because you think that by the word - or words - not having any meaning or impact to you, that it must be true for everyone else. Well, that's not how things work. Your personal feeling of 'words don't matter' isn't of any importance. Him using the word in a fit of anger isn't right. Him using the word at any point isn't right. It doesn't matter if you don't think it is a big deal.

There are those that feel the pain of the word.

 

[Boke1879]

The more you complain the more attention you give him the more views his streams and videos get, also yes be should not have used that word but I'm sure 90% people here have said stuff in anger during gaming in which they would not of said otherwise. I don't swear much normally but if I'm getting frustrated in a game or hell panicking lol can hear me drop the f bomb and s bomb constantly.

But that's my opinion.

You don't "slip up" and say that word out of anger if you haven't used it before or don't hold that view. It's not something you just fucking say.

I have plenty of friends of different races. We've gotten upset and not one of them has uttered that word.

Your opinion is fucking trash.

 

[Dali]

to be honest, i cant put into words how i really feel about it. Well i can, but i will get banned. Its just kinda frustrating that i have to censor myself here because well, you get banned/suspended here so easy.

That means you're gonna say something in defense of him saying what he said, thinking you're clever or revealing some amazing pov no one ever considered, when actually it's just the same dumbshit excuses that have zero validity we've already heard repeated several times in this thread already. Please share!

 

[Tygamr]

Not really surprised, especially after how he acted earlier this year. Can't really say I'm sad, because I've never cared for him... but it is upsetting that the biggest YouTuber in the world is spreading this racist shit around. YouTubers in general seem to have issues with racism. Kathleen Lights just got in trouble for the same exact thing. The n-word isn't something that just slips out on accident—there's definitely some comfort in using the word if it happens so freely.

 

[HiiiLife]

What I'm gathering from this is...don't talk about it and...it's okay drop slurs because hey we all get angry.

 

[TacoMasters]

Well, it certainly didn't take long for people to blatantly defend PewDiePie on this particular occasion.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Comparing PDP saying nigger twice during stream to chocolate in Sweden isn't a difference of opinion. It's just being a disingenuous piece of shit.

I'm tired of this "Europeans dont see the word the same." Brah, he's speaking perfect english during that stream. He isn't mincing languages. He tries to correct himself to saying dude is an asshole.

Cant people fuck off with this false equivalency?

Lordy. He said it TWICE?! I turned it off about 5 seconds after he said it once. I can't believe he was dumb/stubborn enough to say it again.

 

[Fat4all]

What I'm gathering from this is...don't talk about it and...it's okay drop slurs because hey we all get angry.

we're all racist when we get angry while playing games, obvs

:/

 

[Vincent Alexander]

This thread is really making me paranoid I'm going to get upset one day and just accidentally call my wife or boss a ni.......