Not trying to get to 300, just 280. It may be end being suggested at lower than that at 270 but the Nightfall is recommended at 240 and, well... yeah. But who knows, maybe you'e right. In any case I want to get closer to 280 to ensure that I don't hold the raiding party back. Every bit counts and all that.
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If you don't have a populated instance, re-load into the zone with fast travel over and over until you see people.
Raven117
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Meh, it might be. Remember, you could enter the Vault of Glass at level 26 in vanilla...and that was with mostly blues.
270 seems pretty high....
BenjaminBirdie
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All I know is all the changes have actually made me interested in making different builds for play types. I know the opportunity was always there but there were so many barriers. Now I feel like I can make a Nessus Striker build for specific tree with a cool shader and link it to scout rifle with the perfect mod or whatever. That stuff just always seemed out of reach for me in D1.
It may let down the hardcore but a middle tier schnook like me is absolutely in love.
And most importantly, very funny.
My favorite line from Nessus was by the Cayde unit: "If by a Tizzy you mean a murderous rampage, then yes."
The cringe is part of the comedic appeal.
I'll try it out more today.
You're going to enjoy the last mission.
Oh boy, great news.
Also people expect the raid to be 260? I honestly would be surprised if its 270 and not 280. Raids usually start 20 levels below max, with normal mode getting you 10 more levels and HM giving you the last 10.
blue_phazon
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Try to get there about 1-2 minutes before and "Rally the flag" by holding Square on the banner. This alerts other players who are on the same planet lobby as you.
Usually this makes people come for almost any public event
Yeah, I'm guessing 260 as well. Of course, I won't be surprised if the level of the mobs toward the end is a little higher, like they did before ^^
everyday math
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Because NF is not 240 even if it says it is. Sounds weird I know. But I have no problem saying it will start at 270 and will end 280. You don't need exotics to reach above 265. That's why you save the milestones for last.
Yeah totally. My current one is a straight forward GL, but it holds 6 rounds per reload and a high velocity, so as a Hunter I can very rapidly deal a ton of damage with it. It's bliss. I prefer it over Rocket Launchers because of I have two to three times more rounds and I can be more controlled with where I focus the damage.
Mœbius;248586860 said:
There's no way it'll be 280 to start the raid. That's a lot to ask of people when normal drops stop at 265. Perhaps for the final boss, but with the drops along the way, that shouldn't be an issue. I guess we'll see in a few days.
Yeah but look at what you're saying - save milestones for last. You think 99% of destiny players are going to know that? There's no way that's necessary to run the raid. Bungie would have to stray from what they've done the last 3 years if they want to make the raid start at 270.
Perhaps, but I think it was more the feeling of excitement for getting a weapon drop - then there's that moment of anticipation to see what you got. That's gone now.
A lot of people called Destiny a "gambling simulator" due to that gameplay loop, but it's what kept the player population engaged. That...and Trials, which they also changed drastically.
The effect of those 2 decisions could really have a negative affect on player retention. Will have to see how it plays out.
VincentMatts
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i got ps4 and xbox. It will be great on xbox when the xbox one x comes out.
Yeah I just edited my comment as you were posting; there's no suggestion that it'll be at 280 but I think it's likely that you'll need to be close to that based on what the recommendation for NF was compared to the reality of actually doing that without constantly dying.
Anyway, without going on more of a tangent - if anyone does have some suggestions that'd be great...
Week 1 of raids are ALWAYS locked away from everyone but the most avid destiny gamers who managed to play all week to prepare. See my post above; raids have typically always been 20 levels below max level with normal getting you ready for HM and HM giving you the last 10.
Oh man I've ignored that quest like because I heard it didn't give an exotic where I assumed that meant no reward. Thanks for the heads up.
I think the solution to fixed rolls is simple: quantity. I actually like the fixed drops, as I'm sure a lot of people do. Personally chasing the god roll whatever was never that fun for me. I'd get something close enough, or something that I personally looked for in a weapon (explosive rounds, triple tap, etc).
The other solution is what is already in the game, and that is exclusive drops per activity. So the only way you can get x weapon is to do y activity, but the drop rate is low, so you gotta chase it. Also to have multiple sets of this. So maybe from the "Arms Dealer" strike you get can get 2 different sets of armor, an AR and a RL, so on and so forth.I think this is already happening, as far as I know, there just needs to be more of it.
This is in regards to the raid as well. I wouldn't be shocked if there was more than just one of each weapon and an armor set for both difficulties. I honestly expect multiple sets of stuff per difficulty. Not getting my hopes up, but that just seems to make sense to me
I think some of the issue is more that people got used to that chase, to where that became the game- find the god roll gun. If you actually used it or not afterwards didn't really matter.
I mentioned it in an earlier post, but I think they are trying to move towards a Diablo style even more than before- the game is the chase for gear, not necessarily for the "perfect" RNG gear ( and I know D3 moved toward RNG in the gear more, but it's still about getting the ring of whatever and what not).
Hmm Prestige Nightfall is 300 though.
PC if you don't mind waiting.
I played the PC beta and I can't bring myself to do what's basically a 45 day rental on the PS4 version now. It's a huge improvement even if you only have a low-mid range system.
Well, they nerfed the shit out of everything in this game, so your power slot is the only somewhat consistent damage you can get. The tractor cannon doesn't provide that.
Taken King was 290 light for normal KF, and it was actually harder to gear up back then because there wasn't 1:1 infusion. I'm not saying it's 290 but I don't know why everyone thinks it will be so low.
TheCanisDirus
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Has Trails of the Nine been outlined yet? Do we know exactly what's going on?
I think a lot of people are doing that, I almost did the same. I'm really happy with the Man O War so I'm glad I did it. Does super high single target damage, especially crits.
I'm expecting 260/270. Like one of Bungie's goals is to get more people to raid. They aren't going to gate the first tier up high. I'm expecting loot to scale with you like with the powerful rewards you get from doing other Nightfall tier stuff.
Being 20 below cap is definitely not true. You can see the light requirements for the raids and caps here: https://www.destinygamewiki.com/wiki/Light
For example, KF was 290 but cap was 320.
BenjaminBirdie
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It seems like they might end up with more of Mes and less of Yous for better or worse. But I don't know the path to retaining both. Too many complications and Mes get turned off. Too few and Yous get disinterested.
I feel like they're counting on the Yous to be enjoying the settings and the world so that just because there's no BEST SHIT you'll still want to get a full Nessus set or Ikora set for all your characters because they're so cool and so connected to your gaming experience.
But if all that matters is max stats, how is that sustainable if the world isn't grabbing you?
Cornbread78
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Nvmd, found it..
Jampsuliini
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Anyone want to do Heroic Public events? Trying to farm Exotics. I'll pop the Fireteam medallion, so more loot for everybody. Need one more.
There are regular missions at 270 so could be around there?
That's getting there but the gold looks gaudy. I need a worn out old rifle and a black shader to recreate my D1 character.
265-270 is my guess.
PS4 so you can experience everything the game has to offer and it's Bungie's preferred console due to Sony deal.
I think it's 3 am eastern? Or was it 4? Can't remember.
I am guessing 265, all legendary items.
WhiskerFrisker
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My friend is trying so hard to hit 300 light and I just don't get it; if the raid will start at 270, why be so over leveled and become burned out? I hit 274 on Friday and I stopped. But then I started another hunter to hit 280 and get better drops in the raid.
I was a truly dumbfounded that you could not customize how exotic guns work (all have the same perks), they are trying to make everything even, to prevent players from making "mistakes". Are you going to lose more players or gain more players by dumbing things down?
I guess to them, if you give a lot of choices to a playstyle, peope will gravitate to the best options anyway, so why bother?
Hispanic! At the Disco
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What if Prestige Raid is 300? Why would there be an achievement for Perstige nightfall or raid, if the prestige nightfall would be so much easier? Just dont even include raid in the achievement at that point.
I was kind of puzzled by this too when I got my first Exotic.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Maybe they think people will actually be able to gravitate towards things they actually enjoy without feeling like they're missing out on the "best options"?
The game feels intrinsically designed to encourage build building and giving many builds a fighting chance to shine in the game.
That's getting there but the gold looks gaudy. I need a worn out old rifle and a black shader to recreate my D1 character.
I feel like Titan's armors were much more cooler in D1 compared to D2. I don't know if it's the new lightning system they are using or just the base 3D model for their armor, but they don't look as space-marinish as before.
Habaneroguy
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Quoting this because its important if its true. Does ranking up the vendor characters on each planet matter for this?
Ah, good point
They try avoid achievements that force you into specific activity so either or solution here gives people options.
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