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[ZeoVGM]

Maybe some people coming into the thread late will understand better if this is said in some sort of gamer-speak.

Let's try.

ProTip: If you're afraid to say what you're thinking because people might accuse you of being a racist, that means you're a racist.

 

[clearestblue]

Philip DeFranco's take on it (haven't watched, but will now):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMq65CslbZA

I'm sure it's full of him being level headed and saying that PDP is wrong and saying the n-word is never okay!

/s

 

[gogosox82]

Never knew Steve Harvey was on gaf.

lol

 

[jennetics]

Game Informer too : http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu.../opinion-we-need-to-talk-about-pewdiepie.aspx

I haven't been the biggest fan of Javy when it comes to opinions on games (imo he's totally random in what he likes/dislikes about games) but dammit if that wasn't a fine ass article. Well done, Javy.

Please...stop making that assumption.
Religion doesn't make them racist.

I am a minority for goodness sake.
The world is full of minority...religion is a global thing. Christianity doesn't just mean in America only.

You can't just "correlate" America right wings with all of us.
I am just saying that with religion, some of yall can interact with the community at large with ease and be surrounded with people who want to help.
But no, we are all right now typing and chatting online.
That is all I am saying. Yall just want to always want to bring down religion for no good reason...sigh.

It is the trend I keep seeing. People defending racism and stuff online.
This generation youths are so into the digital life, they can't see the social and political impact in real life with all the hate memes and casual racism they spew online.

Hey man, I get the point you're trying to make but...just let it go. Please, for your sake.

 

[yuoke]

I'm sure it's full of him being level headed and saying that PDP is wrong and saying the n-word is never okay!

/s

He said that....but then there was the but. He basically took the same stance as boogie.

He said tons of people have accidentally blurted raciat words before.

 

[Dynasty]

I'm sure it's full of him being level headed and saying that PDP is wrong and saying the n-word is never okay!

/s

He gives his opinion towards the end.

Says PDP is wrong for saying the N-word but doesnt think he is racist

 

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

I'm sure it's full of him being level headed and saying that PDP is wrong and saying the n-word is never okay!

/s

"This show is a conversation so I pass the question off to you viewers..."

*Next episode proceeds to agree with all the ones that agreed with his initial video and tell the others they're wrong*

 

[Wamb0wneD]

Some of y'all need Jesus in your life.

With the internet making fun of religion and how science and technology facts>faith and belief, this generation is so full of apathy.
You can accept hard cold knowledge while acknowledging that faith is something else that allows humans to continue to put their heart and belief into it.

Growing up in a religious household allows me to connect with people and showing empathy to them, and being respectful to other and treating them fairly.
Sure, you don't need religion to be a good person.
But it helps due to the routine teaching and the everyday community you are always interacting with.

However, the internet and technology have disconnected us in real life.
Most of us rarely go to Sunday Church or religious events, we stay at home.
We don't even interact with other humans unless they are our family and co-workers. Even if we do interact, we stare at our cellphone most of the time.
Watching Netflix, HBO, NFL, playing games on console/pc and just simply enjoying the digital lifestyle.
So many of ours youths just go online to troll and being respectful to people by creating endless racist memes.

Please don't use this racist incident as a platform to promotoe your religion. There's no reason to do so.

 

[Massicot]

He basically took the same stance as boogie.

mild shock

also lol at "stance". It's like the null set.

 

[poodaddy]

Please...stop making that assumption.
Religion doesn't make them racist.

I am a minority for goodness sake.
The world is full of minority...religion is a global thing. Christianity doesn't just mean in America only.

You can't just "correlate" America right wings with all of us.
I am just saying that with religion, some of yall can interact with the community at large with ease and be surrounded with people who want to help.
But no, we are all right now typing and chatting online.
That is all I am saying. Yall just want to always want to bring down religion for no good reason...sigh.

Why in the fuck are you even talking about this?! Why the shit did you try to bring up religion here? It has less than nothing to do with the thread! If you're not going to discuss in earnest then move on dude, your conversion attempts add nothing to the conversation.

OT: The Patrick Klepek article is on fucking point. That's not a word you use on accident, and if it is then you've got some fucked up beliefs whether you know it or not.

 

[clearestblue]

He said that....but then there was the but. He basically took the same stance as boogie.

He said tons of people have accidentally blurted raciat words before.

Fucking typical, Phil is spineless

 

[Venfayth]

Man. Patrick Klepek bringing up Ryan's incident with dropping an offensive word and comparing it to this situation is powerful. Ryan handled that with more poise and humility than PewDiePie has ever displayed on any video he has ever produced.

Ryan wasn't a homophobe, but he used a homophobic word. That prompted a moment of reflection about why that happened, and acknowledging how the use of hateful words, even meant without malice, can hurt people.

PewDiePie may not be a racist—we can't know what's in his heart of hearts— but he did use a racist word. So far, he hasn't given us any evidence that we should be in a forgiving mood.

 

[yuoke]

"This show is a conversation so I pass the question off to you viewers..."

*Next episode proceeds to agree with all the ones that agreed with his initial video and tell the others they're wrong*

And the top rated comment is defending pewd by saying he doesnt get why the word is bad, and that it was just a mistake. And also black people saying its okay because they don't care.

 

[Bahorel]

I don't think so, and I watch them a lot. Sexually they seem to be really progressive, so nothing homophobe at all. Apparently Arin asks everyone involved to not talk about politics during the videos, but everytime they hinted about it they definitely didn't see pro Trump during this election. And at most Dan jokes about jews sometimes, but he's jewish and his father is Israeli

They definitely make racist jokes at times and talk in the stereotypical "Asian" l-and-r switch voice, and dan was like (a year or so ago I think) I can tell black jokes because my black friend said it was okay. They're progressiveish but they are still holding onto race jokes. They got to let it go.

 

[WrenchNinja]

Philip DeFranco's take on it (haven't watched, but will now):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMq65CslbZA

still complaining about the media reporting on felix over the anti-semetic comments, he's more worried about the ads and the dmca

"do i think Felix is racist? No. Do I think he should have said it? no"

fuck this clown

 

[TheOfficeMut]

Some of y'all need Jesus in your life.

With the internet making fun of religion and how science and technology facts>faith and belief, this generation is so full of apathy.
You can accept hard cold knowledge while acknowledging that faith is something else that allows humans to continue to put their heart and belief into it.

Growing up in a religious household allows me to connect with people and showing empathy to them, and being respectful to other and treating them fairly.
Sure, you don't need religion to be a good person.
But it helps due to the routine teaching and the everyday community you are always interacting with.

However, the internet and technology have disconnected us in real life.
Most of us rarely go to Sunday Church or religious events, we stay at home.
We don't even interact with other humans unless they are our family and co-workers. Even if we do interact, we stare at our cellphone most of the time.
Watching Netflix, HBO, NFL, playing games on console/pc and just simply enjoying the digital lifestyle.
So many of ours youths just go online to troll and being respectful to people by creating endless racist memes.

Lmao a fucking missionary in this thread of all places.

 

[RRockman]

Okay?
How about both?
I am a Christian and understand science...Wow.
Yup, our Church is taking advantage of undeserving people right now even though I just left yesterday trying to help people due to Harvey.

This is what I mean. Yall need to stop doing this when people bring faith in.
I am out...
It is always the same thing, science this, education that. Faith isn't just about believing in something, it is there to emotionally support and encourage other to lend a helping hand.

I don't dissagree with you at all actually. People who actually pay attention to their bibles would typically be better people. The problem though is that nowadays people(usually Americans) like the "idea" of being a Christian, people who use it as a sort of justification for their vile actions. I also don't like when people is like "lol religion" when in actuality in a world without religion people would use different reasons to preform the same vile acts.


Although this should probably be a separate thread so this one doesn't get derailed.

 

[Dipship31]

Philip DeFranco's take on it (haven't watched, but will now):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMq65CslbZA

Well the first 7 minutes or so is really just relaying info we already know and his personal opinion comes around 7:40.

 

[Zasa]

Lirik's hot take is basically that people get offended too easily now and both sides. Dr. Disrespect said that people are too sensitive and to "get over it". CobaltStreak doesn't care about what PDP said. Other than those, I haven't heard anything else.

Thanks for this. What a shame, can't say I'm surprised though.

I also know Shroud said something along the lines of 'it's 2017 people, anyone who calls him a racist over the n-bomb is trolling, get over it' & downplayed the whole thing. Ridiculous.

https://clips.twitch.tv/FitAthleticSparrowThunBeast

 

[Metalingus5150]

What the fuck is DxD talking about?

 

[Massicot]

Man. Patrick Klepek bringing up Ryan's incident with dropping an offensive word and comparing it to this situation is powerful. Ryan handled that with more poise and humility than PewDiePie has ever displayed on any video he has ever produced.

No kidding

Method 1 of apologizing for an insensitive word:

or

and then we have Method 2:

+ replace with 'asshole' and move on

 

[AlexFlame116]

Sigh...always the hate. Why can't yall look at the upside? Just once.
PDP is an atheist...okay?
Your comment is such a dumb assumption, but I don't go around and say that atheism promotes racism like you.
I accept atheism as I accept my faith.

As someone who is religious and loves my church, your posts are a load of bollucks.

You can tolerate people but at the same time you have to intolerate people who are doing wrong. You show compassion as much as you can but if they don't listen or improve then you have to let them suffer the consequences. Jesus Christ himself knew when to be kind and loving and also when to be strict and to the point.

If you must bring tolerance then bring the other part as well. That part is common sense. Common sense requires us to come to the aid of people who are being mocked and laughed at by a community who have abused them with violence and with words.

Look at this country right now. You think Jesus Christ would agree with some of the so-called Christians who are working to make others suffer? No he would not.

He said to love the Lord with all that you can, and then to love your fellow neighbor as yourself. Do you hate yourself enough to throw racial slurs and not improve? Accept all the religions because that is exactly what Jesus was saying, to love and tolerate. But He also said to love your enemies. How do you do that? By showing and teaching by example. When that doesn't work, then you let them to see the consequences of their actions.

I'll never leave anyone at my door who needs help, but if you're gonna be in my house then you're going to have let me speak my mind. Especially when the person is doing something bad.

 

[HackTheSlash]

Not sure how many people outside Canada will know him, but Vic Lucas condemned him on Twitter last night.

There is no way to apologize or justify this in my opinion.

 

[LiK]

Man. Patrick Klepek bringing up Ryan's incident with dropping an offensive word and comparing it to this situation is powerful. Ryan handled that with more poise and humility than PewDiePie has ever displayed on any video he has ever produced.

The difference between a man and a child. Maturity vs immaturity.

 

[WilsonX100]

Mark Brown
Hbomberguy
Errant Signal/ Campster
Hyperbithero (posts here)
Easy Allies
Retsupurae
Joseph Anderson
Shaun and Jen

Most of these people are either anti-gg or have spoken up about this kind of stuff in the past.

awesome, appreciate it!

If you like Nintendo and Sony: Easy allies

already been subscribed! was a big gametrailers fan for years

 

[Kinsei]

Philip DeFranco's take on it (haven't watched, but will now):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMq65CslbZA

I love how before getting into the clip of Pewdie saying the N word Phil feels the need to accuse the main stream media of character assassination because of the anti semetic stuff that WSJ pointed out.

Of did I say love? I mean it makes my blood fucking boil.

 

[freeofgreed]

Philip DeFranco's take on it (haven't watched, but will now):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMq65CslbZA

Surprisingly reasonable take actually.

 

[Syf]

This whole religious angle is bizarre to read lol like what are you even doing?

 

[HazySaiyan]

It is the trend I keep seeing. People defending racism and stuff online.
This generation youths are so into the digital life, they can't see the social and political impact in real life with all the hate memes and casual racism they spew online.
I was just brining up faith because of how real life interaction with our community helps us more by becoming a better person.
I even said that yall don't need faith to be a better person in my post.
It is just easier since you have access with other people in the community.

And plenty of racists, white supremacists etc. use Christianity as their justification, I don't really see how it's relevant. Saying 'y'all need Jesus' quite frankly adds nothing to the discussion.

 

[MUnited83]

Sigh...always the hate. Why can't yall look at the upside? Just once.
PDP is an atheist...okay?
Your comment is such a dumb assumption, but I don't go around and say that atheism promotes racism like you.
I accept atheism as I accept my faith.

No you don't, your fucking comment was telling how people "need Jesus" as if religion as any influence on who's a asshole or not.
Guess fucking what, religious assholes have existed since religion existed.

 

[malboroking]

I'm sure it's full of him being level headed and saying that PDP is wrong and saying the n-word is never okay!

/s

And I'm sure the preview thumbnail is a shot of DeFranco looking very concerned. What a phony.

 

[gogosox82]

He said that....but then there was the but. He basically took the same stance as boogie.

He said tons of people have accidentally blurted raciat words before.

Of course he did. Can't bite the hand that feeds. What a spineless coward.

 

[Ponn]

Please...stop making that assumption.
Religion doesn't make them racist.

I am a minority for goodness sake.
The world is full of minority...religion is a global thing. Christianity doesn't just mean in America only.

You can't just "correlate" America right wings with all of us.
I am just saying that with religion, some of yall can interact with the community at large with ease and be surrounded with people who want to help.
But no, we are all right now typing and chatting online.
That is all I am saying. Yall just want to always want to bring down religion for no good reason...sigh.

My sisters family is very christian, and are minorities. They also post some very vile bigoted stuff frequently about LGBT. Are all christians bad? Maybe not, but it would help if they spoke out more against the vocal ones who are their public face. Instead of only speaking up to say "not all christians"

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

How old is Lirik?

 

[Username1198]

As someone who is religious and loves my church, your posts are a load of bollucks.

You can tolerate people but at the same time you have to intolerate people who at doing wrong. You show compassion as much as you can but if they don't listen or improve then you have to let them suffer the consequences. Jesus Christ himself knew when to be kind and loving and also when to be strict and to the point.

If you must bring tolerance then bring the other part as well. That part is common sense. Common sense requires us to come to the aid of people who are being mocked and laughed at by a community who have abused them with violence and with words.

Look at this country right now. You think Jesus Christ would agree with some of the so-called Christians who are working to make others suffer? No he would not.

He said to love the Lord with all that you can, and then to love your fellow neighbor as yourself. Do you hate yourself enough to throw racial slurs and not improve? Accept all the religions because that is exactly what Jesus was saying, to love and tolerate. But He also said to love your enemies. How do you do that? By showing and teaching by example. When that doesn't work, then you let them to see the consequences of their actions.

I'll never leave anyone at my door who needs help, but if you're gonna be in my house then you're going to have let me speak my mind. Especially when the person is doing something bad.

See, this I can get behind. Well said. I don't know wtf pikachus rattling in about.

 

[yuoke]

Surprisingly reasonable take actually.

Not really, it was a sugarcoated way of saying that pewd just made a mistake, but you shouldnt attack him over this. He even said it doesn't make him racist.

 

[Tangled Up in Blue]

I used to give Boogie the benefit of the doubt but after hearing how he made a passionate plea for those to stop fat shaming I've definitely side eyeing him

That's how all of these "both sides" assholes are: they only care about bigotry when it rears its ugly head in their direction.

 

[DxD]

Please don't use this racist incident as a platform to promotoe your religion. There's no reason to do so.

Fine.
I said that yall don't need faith to be a good person, but I guess I am promoting religion.

Alright, I am out.
Always the same thing...bring up faith, people always bringing it down.
Just trying to have a conversion about disconnected youths and how online promotes casual racism since the youths don't interact with their community in real life...

Edit: It is my wrong for saying some of yall need Jesus.

 

[Nokterian]

Philip DeFranco's take on it (haven't watched, but will now):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMq65CslbZA

Ah the would be journalist Philip..what a clown.

 

[Eylos]

It sure is hard to be a racist for some, you must wear a t-shirt with a swastica and say out loud that hates Black people so the n-word turns to be racist

 

[KarmaCow]

How old is Lirik?

Old enough to know better (26).

 

[Frozenprince]

Lirik's hot take is basically that people get offended too easily now and both sides. Dr. Disrespect said that people are too sensitive and to "get over it". CobaltStreak doesn't care about what PDP said. Other than those, I haven't heard anything else.

Add to the list of not being a shitlord:

runJDrun - the son of John Witherspoon (pops from Friday, granddad from the Boondocks) needs a mention because the dude barely swears, plays a wide variety of games, and is just cool as shit.

I don't know how GAF feels about The Black Hokage and The Gaming Illuminaughty, but I think they're worth checking out.

Black Hokage cant even earn a living from YouTube anymore thanks to PDP.

 

[jennetics]

As someone who is religious and loves my church, your posts are a load of bollucks.

You can tolerate people but at the same time you have to intolerate people who at doing wrong. You show compassion as much as you can but if they don't listen or improve then you have to let them suffer the consequences. Jesus Christ himself knew when to be kind and loving and also when to be strict and to the point.

If you must bring tolerance then bring the other part as well. That part is common sense. Common sense requires us to come to the aid of people who are being mocked and laughed at by a community who have abused them with violence and with words.

Look at this country right now. You think Jesus Christ would agree with some of the so-called Christians who are working to make others suffer? No he would not.

He said to love the Lord with all that you can, and then to love your fellow neighbor as yourself. Do you hate yourself enough to throw racial slurs and not improve? Accept all the religions because that is exactly what Jesus was saying, to love and tolerate. But He also said to love your enemies. How do you do that? By showing and teaching by example. When that doesn't work, then you let them to see the consequences of their actions.

I'll never leave anyone at my door who needs help, but if you're gonna be in my house then you're going to have let me speak my mind. Especially when the person is doing something bad.

Hey Alex,very nicely said.

Next time you're in the Oklahoma area, dinner's on me.

 

[WilsonX100]

I mean depends on what you're looking for out of a gaming channel. Lets Plays? Video essays?

both! just want to support people who deserve it. im subscribed to stuff like DYKgaming, easy allies, roosterteeth, superbunnyhop, super best friends, and a few others.

 

[ComradeCoffee]

You know why I don't use a mic in online games. Because of shit like what PewDiePie just said. You know what else? He is the biggest personality associated with gaming and he just normalized it.

I wonder why people are discussing it on neogaf.com where we also discuss why 60fps is the only acceptable framerate and why Naughty God are the best ever? 🤔

Not sure I can blame him for that, online chat in games has always been like that for me, long before Pewdiepie. To be honest I'm not sure it says good things about are society that we should have to worry about what are YouTubers believe and if that will influence are children. lol if this is the case I think we need to solve that problem more then if pewdiepie is a racist. But I would say you are over blowing there long term effects on anyone, they are likely to be more effected by there parents, teachers, friends then someone on youtube. If that is not the case then the parents should probably look at what they are doing and adjust.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

Fine.
I said that yall don't need faith to be a good person, but I guess I am promoting religion.

Alright, I am out.
Always the same thing...bring up faith, people always bringing it down.
Just trying to have a conversion about disconnected youths and how online promotes casual racism since the youths don't interact with their community in real life...

You could have this discussion without using religion. Like, you can be religious and a good person. You can be religious and a terrible person. What does that have to do with saying the n word? Like really? I have no issue with religion but how is that relevant to this discussion?

 

[psychowave]

It sure is hard to be a racist for some, you must wear a t-shirt with a swastica and say out loud that hates Black people so the n-word turns to be racist

Nah, wearing a swastika will be written off as "satire" and "freedom of speech" and "we shouldn't give symbols that much power". Nothing is racist enough for these people. Funny since they always claim to care about the "real racism", yet they never elaborate on what they consider racism.

 

[Waluigilicious]

Philip DeFranco's take on it (haven't watched, but will now):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMq65CslbZA

I really don't get it. Why are these people worried about videos being taken down? Just don't be racist or hateful. If no one else can talk like that in their work place then neither should they. Why do they want a free pass?

These people get paid way too much and it's gotten to their head. A lot of them make more money than the game creators themselves, and they have the power to change someone's life with one video whether for good or worse, and they can't handle that.

 

[sjay1994]

No kidding

Method 1 of apologizing for an insensitive word:

or

and then we have Method 2:

+ replace with 'asshole' and move on

Man, I remember being on Max's stream when he got raided by people going "Ninja Dagger", he had to stop the stream because he was emotionally distressed about the whole situation.

He is a good guy, and I genuinely felt bad for him.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

Some of y'all need Jesus in your life.

With the internet making fun of religion and how science and technology facts>faith and belief, this generation is so full of apathy.
You can accept hard cold knowledge while acknowledging that faith is something else that allows humans to continue to put their heart and belief into it.

Growing up in a religious household allows me to connect with people and showing empathy to them, and being respectful to other and treating them fairly.
Sure, you don't need religion to be a good person.
But it helps due to the routine teaching and the everyday community you are always interacting with.

However, the internet and technology have disconnected us in real life.
Most of us rarely go to Sunday Church or religious events, we stay at home.
We don't even interact with other humans unless they are our family and co-workers. Even if we do interact, we stare at our cellphone most of the time.
Watching Netflix, HBO, NFL, playing games on console/pc and just simply enjoying the digital lifestyle.
So many of ours youths just go online to troll and being respectful to people by creating endless racist memes.

Wasn't expecting a proselytizer to swoop in here. lol, we're good on the pamphlets. Some people do, though, you're right