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[jimmypython]

That awkward moment when the Apple TV CPU beats the Switch and the Mac Mini both by near double (and has twice the bandwidth of the former)

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3916022

Free

I love Mac mini

 

[Deleted member 22576]

what about battery life when streaming from Apple Music, a feature Apple specifically advertised during the event? Can we even stream a full album before the battery dies?

🤔

 

[MercuryLS3]

Also 4K movies are priced the same as HD for new purchases too.

It's kinda amazing Apple was able to convince the studios of this.

 

[OmniOne]

Excited for iPhone X and Apple TV 4k and series 3 Watch with cellular.

But what is that red dot on the watch crown. I don't like it. At all.

What does it signify?

 

[Blackhead]

Is there an Apple Watch Series 3 thread? Can someone help me clarify the options and features? Will you get all notifications from your phone at home via LTE or only a subset? There's no Whatsapp Apple watch app but I can still get the notifications from my phone via LTE? Also there doesn't seem to be improvements to the WiF i.e. It's still only 2.4GHz and no option for connecting to open wifi networks with a log-in page?

 

[border]

what about battery life when streaming from Apple Music, a feature Apple specifically advertised during the event? Can we even stream a full album before the battery dies?

The watch can be loaded up with a couple gigs of music. I would strongly recommend that over streaming. LTE Streaming + Workout Mode is probably going to be like 30 minutes of battery life.

 

[giga]

what about battery life when streaming from Apple Music, a feature Apple specifically advertised during the event? Can we even stream a full album before the battery dies?

Good q. Wonder if caching the album or playlist at once would help compared to continuous streaming over lte.

 

[hateradio]

It's kinda amazing Apple was able to convince the studios of this.

1080p isn't really that high a resolution as we used to think.

Excited for iPhone X and Apple TV 4k and series 3 Watch with cellular.

But what is that red dot on the watch crown. I don't like it. At all.

What does it signify?

Do not touch the red button.

 

[Nastrodamous]

Excited for iPhone X and Apple TV 4k and series 3 Watch with cellular.

But what is that red dot on the watch crown. I don't like it. At all.

What does it signify?

how else would people know you had the new watch

 

[tsumineko]

The red dot is ugly. I'm so torn. I really wanted the LTE Apple Watch but that red dot is so out of place and completely cheapens it. I can't believe this.

 

[Husker86]

Also 4K movies are priced the same as HD for new purchases too.

Makes me wonder why there is even a separate SKU, then. (or is there?)

Who would buy "HD" at this point?

 

[dallow_bg]

Makes me wonder why there is even a separate SKU, then. (or is there?)

Who would buy "HD" at this point?

Exactly how it should be.
(HD should just be HD in whatever flavor you support)

 

[giga]

Makes me wonder why there is even a separate SKU, then. (or is there?)

Who would buy "HD" at this point?

Price. The 4K really should have been 150.

 

[border]

The red dot is ugly. I'm so torn. I really wanted the LTE Apple Watch but that red dot is so out of place and completely cheapens it. I can't believe this.

http://watchdots.com/

I would buy stock in this company if possible.

 

[Sean]

It's kinda amazing Apple was able to convince the studios of this.

Yeah I hope this catches on and becomes a trend with competing service. I have a 4K TV but am unwilling to pay extra for 4K content (like Netflix's upcharge for 4K plan).

Makes me wonder why there is even a separate SKU, then. (or is there?)

Who would buy "HD" at this point?

The old SKU is sticking around for $30 cheaper ($149 vs $179).

I think the older one should've been dropped to $99 and have the 4K model start at $149, that would be the sweet spot. But Apple wants those profit margins.

 

[LyleLanley]

Makes me wonder why there is even a separate SKU, then. (or is there?)

Who would buy "HD" at this point?

It doesn't look like 4K is available on iTunes (Yet?) but I imagine they're not separate SKUs. Just like there aren't separate SKUs for 1080 and 720.

Edit:

Wait, are we talking about the files or the Apple TV devices themselves?

 

[dallow_bg]

He was talking about the files. I guess there was some confusion.

It'll just be SD price and HD/UHD price.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Will they even keep the option to buy SD versions of things come the 22nd? Except for the old stuff that’s ONLY available in SD of course

 

[dallow_bg]

Will they even keep the option to buy SD versions of things come the 22nd? Except for the old stuff that’s ONLY available in SD of course

Definitely time for it to be retired.

 

[Husker86]

Price. The 4K really should have been 150.

Yeah I hope this catches on and becomes a trend with competing service. I have a 4K TV but am unwilling to pay extra for 4K content (like Netflix's upcharge for 4K plan).



The old SKU is sticking around for $30 cheaper ($149 vs $179).

I think the older one should've been dropped to $99 and have the 4K model start at $149, that would be the sweet spot. But Apple wants those profit margins.

It doesn't look like 4K is available on iTunes (Yet?) but I imagine they're not separate SKUs. Just like there aren't separate SKUs for 1080 and 720.

Edit:

Wait, are we talking about the files or the Apple TV devices themselves?

Sorry all, I'm talking about the movies themselves, not the Apple TV.

He was talking about the files. I guess there was some confusion.

It'll just be SD price and HD/UHD price.

Ah, ok. As it should be then. Thanks!

 

[LyleLanley]

Definitely time for it to be retired.

Why bother getting rid of it?

 

[dallow_bg]

Why bother getting rid of it?

Force stragglers to pay the extra few bucks for HD and keep it simple from a business point of view I suppose.
I'd be real curious to see how split the sales are on content between SD and HD at this point.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Why bother getting rid of it?

HD moves to SD prices, UHD takes over HD prices (as previously announced). SD still available as an option when you choose to download something, if you’re crazy

 

[LyleLanley]

HD moves to SD prices, UHD takes over HD prices (as previously announced). SD still available as an option when you choose to download something, if you’re crazy

I have a feeling studios aren't going to drop the prices of HD movies anytime soon.

 

[Killthee]

what about battery life when streaming from Apple Music, a feature Apple specifically advertised during the event? Can we even stream a full album before the battery dies?

Looks like it should be capable of several hours worth of music.

All-Day Battery Life
Up to 18 hours

All-day battery life is based on 18 hours with the following use: 90 time checks, 90 notifications, 45 minutes of app use, and a 30-minute workout with music playback from Apple Watch via Bluetooth, over the course of 18 hours. Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS) usage includes connection to iPhone via Bluetooth during the entire 18-hour test. Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS + Cellular) usage includes a total of 4 hours of LTE connection and 14 hours of connection to iPhone via Bluetooth over the course of 18 hours. Testing conducted by Apple in August 2017 using preproduction Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS) and Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS + Cellular), each paired with an iPhone; all devices tested with prerelease software. Battery life varies by use, configuration, and many other factors; actual results will vary.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Looks like it should be capable of several hours worth of music.

Definitely not several, it can only last an hour on an LTE phone call. Add in doing a workout and the watch will last like an hour, maybe?

 

[mrkgoo]

Does any one know what actually happens to your downloaded iOS apps when you install iTunes 12.7? Does it just delete them, or just no longer points to the app files? If it leaves them there do we just delete the app folder?

What happens to older devices that actually look for them? I assume iTunes will know what to do with it and not actually sync, but I still have an iPad 1 on iOS 5.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Does any one know what actually happens to your downloaded iOS apps when you install iTunes 12.7? Does it just delete them, or just no longer points to the app files? If it leaves them there do we just delete the app folder?

What happens to older devices that actually look for them? I assume iTunes will know what to do with it and not actually sync, but I still have an iPad 1 on iOS 5.

I think it leaves them in the file structure but just doesn’t show them in iTunes. Because they have an article that says you can manually drag this stuff straight to your device through iTunes, it just doesn’t enter the iTunes library first anymore

 

[mrkgoo]

I think it leaves them in the file structure but just doesn’t show them in iTunes. Because they have an article that says you can manually drag this stuff straight to your device through iTunes, it just doesn’t enter the iTunes library first anymore

Yeah I saw the support page. Ironically, users now have their drag to drop to install lol.

So I assume you can just delete that folder if you don't want the apps any more? Hmm wonder if it'll break my iPad 1 ...

 

[Garou]

what about battery life when streaming from Apple Music, a feature Apple specifically advertised during the event? Can we even stream a full album before the battery dies?

Music isn't streamed in realtime. An average album takes about 30 seconds to download on LTE/4G, after that the LTE-antenna goes back to standby/low power mode.

 

[TerryLee81]

Did they raise the prices on the plus model?

Seems very expensive, but I can't remember if the price of the 7+ was just as high when it launched.

 

[JayDub]

No pics or videos of the new gray ceramic Edition.

 

[hirokazu]

Excited for iPhone X and Apple TV 4k and series 3 Watch with cellular.

But what is that red dot on the watch crown. I don't like it. At all.

What does it signify?

It signifies an LTE model Apple Watch as opposed to an GPS one.

 

[Skel1ingt0n]

Does the stainless steel on the iPhone X match the stainless steel on the Apple Watch Series 3?

I'm thinking I'll do a white X and a white AW3 SS with the white rubber band - but I'm only interested if they match perfectly.

 

[formasymphonic]

Did they raise the prices on the plus model?

Seems very expensive, but I can't remember if the price of the 7+ was just as high when it launched.

Depends on the region, but from what I see in the UK, yes the entry to each "level" is higher than it was last year. (Quoting myself

UK pricing for new models went up again. (yes I know there are more GBs)

- but the 7/7+ launched at

32GB - £599 / £719
128GB - £699 / £819
256GB - £799 / £919

while the 8 / 8+ is now

64GB - £699 / £799
256GB - £849 / £949

and the X is:

64GB - £999
256GB - £1149

 

[brianmcdoogle]

Oops, meant for the iPhone X thread. nvm

 

[The_Inquisitor]

The 8 is a pretty weak upgrade honestly, the 7 seems like a really good buy with the price drop unless you really want wireless charging.

Not if you're coming from a 6 like me.

 

[hirokazu]

No pics or videos of the new gray ceramic Edition.

There are pics when you go to select model. It looks similar in shade to the space grey aluminium I think.

 

[Dany]

Apple proports 70% faster CPU? But we wont see any video comparisons until launch right?

 

[Guess Who]

Apple proports 70% faster CPU? But we wont see any video comparisons until launch right?

The four "low power" cores are 70% faster than the low-power cores in the A10 Fusion. The two "high power" cores are 25% faster.

The big story is that apparently apps can address all six, rather than only the two high power ones (on the A10, the two low-power cores were managed by the system and used only for apps running in the background).

 

[hirokazu]

The four "low power" cores are 70% faster than the low-power cores in the A10 Fusion. The two "high power" cores are 25% faster.

The big story is that apparently apps can address all six, rather than only the two high power ones (on the A10, the two low-power cores were managed by the system and used only for apps running in the background).

Apple is already way ahead of the game in single core performance. I wonder how this new 6 independent core design stacks up. This could potentially put them in a considerable lead in multi-core performance too.

 

[raven777]

iPhone 8 (not the Plus) will have 2gb ram, right? That's the only thing that's holding me back..

 

[MrDenny]

Space grey is a lighter grey color, but the new iPhones look more black to me.

 

[Jake.]

X is overkill for me, and the australian price is insane. will get an 8 in november.

 

[Timbuktu]

Hmm... Hong Kong prices are relatively reasonable, from about £825.

 

[raven777]

Space grey is a lighter grey color, but the new iPhones look more black to me.

Apple's space gray always changes lol

even the first iphone 5s and early ipads with space gray are different.
I personally prefer darker color so I like the new space gray which seems basically a black.

 

[Jimrpg]

At this point, i'm inclined to think John Gruber works for Apple or has some desperate need for Apple success to maintain the status quo.

Two months ago, he stated the new iPhone could be $1500 and now $999 seems reasonable. Well it worked on me! $999 doesn't seem like that much. It almost makes the $699 for the iPhone 8 seem like a bargain!

Seriously though, for the majority of people, I bet they'll grumble a bit and pay it for pretty much the most used device in everybody's lives. Heck if it was $2000 I bet people would still pay it. If people from less well off countries on way way lower salaries will pay it, im sure its not in the Ferrari levels of unaffordable luxury item yet.

 

[Mogwai]

At this point, i'm inclined to think John Gruber works for Apple or has some desperate need for Apple success to maintain the status quo.

Two months ago, he stated the new iPhone could be $1500 and now $999 seems reasonable. Well it worked on me! $999 doesn't seem like that much. It almost makes the $699 for the iPhone 8 seem like a bargain!

Seriously though, for the majority of people, I bet they'll grumble a bit and pay it for pretty much the most used device in everybody's lives. Heck if it was $2000 I bet people would still pay it. If people from less well off countries on way way lower salaries will pay it, im sure its not in the Ferrari levels of unaffordable luxury item yet.

Isn't it regular marketing practice these days to prime people with expectations regarding price bumps?

 

[TerryLee81]

Depends on the region, but from what I see in the UK, yes the entry to each "level" is higher than it was last year. (Quoting myself

God damn it's so expensive. And they scratched the 128 gb option, the one probably most people would buy.

 

[Daffy Duck]

God damn it's so expensive. And they scratched the 128 gb option, the one probably most people would buy.

I was teeing up to buy an 8 128Gb......upgrading from my 6S 64Gb