Pai Pai Master
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It would take time mobilize and respond to something like that. Innocent civilians and local police would be in the line of fire first.
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Mass shooting at the Mandalay Bay Las Vegas; 58 dead, 500+ injured.
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It would take time mobilize and respond to something like that. Innocent civilians and local police would be in the line of fire first.
Croatoan
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You keep using that word. Its just speculation I have seen, not my personal opinion.
I hope that number includes all injured, not jus shot.
Shake Appeal
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Actually, gun policy is on the agenda.
There are currently two gun bills moving through the House:
http://www.sfchronicle.com/nation/article/Pair-of-pro-gun-bills-on-move-in-House-12243745.php
LelouchViBritannia
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Rip to all the victims. Horrible news
This is incredibly heart breaking. I send my condolences to all the victims' family and friends. Though I feel that my words are pretty insignificant to the weight of the grief they are feeling right now. There's nothing I can say change the horrors they are facing.
To add on to this tragedy, it's also tragic by the knowledge that nothing will come of it. People will suffer and nothing will change for the better. In fact, it may become worse with more states feeling to legalize open carry.
America is fucked beyond belief when it comes to gun control, and no matter how many people die our leaders refuse to think rationally and actually do something about it.
No matter how much we literally beg for more strict regulations it always falls on deaf ears and the people who could enact change and actually save lives refuse to do anything about it.
To add on to this tragedy, it's also tragic by the knowledge that nothing will come of it. People will suffer and nothing will change for the better. In fact, it may become worse with more states feeling to legalize open carry.
America is fucked beyond belief when it comes to gun control, and no matter how many people die our leaders refuse to think rationally and actually do something about it.
No matter how much we literally beg for more strict regulations it always falls on deaf ears and the people who could enact change and actually save lives refuse to do anything about it.
The graph is not sorted by date, but by death toll.
If you parrot something in the thread, it becomes yours. I think the local news has already debunked it.
Surely military commanders can devise a strategy to minimize this. We're not talking with powerless people here.
Every excuse thrown around just sounds like that onion article "Nothing could have been done to prevent this, says the only country in the world where this happens".
Empyrean Heaven
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Is it bad that part of me is kind of hoping they find this monster's house and find a bunch of Nazi paraphernalia? Because sad as it sounds, that's the only way Trump is going to act on white supremacists.
Croatoan
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lol k...
neurosisxeno
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According to Reddit that Suppressor Bill is essential for safety. Otherwise someone firing dozens of rounds a minute from their modified AR-15 into a crowd of concertgoers could suffer hearing loss. The real victims here.
/s if that wasn't 100% obvious
YuriLowell
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There would be a revolt in the south before you took away their guns.
People down here would rather starve to death than give up their shotguns.
TacoMasters
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Jesus, this was heartbreaking to wake up to.
Reminds me of a guy who just casually walked into my store the other day, wearing cargo shorts, some generic shirt, sandals, and a fucking Glock strapped to his hip. VA is open carry, so there was nothing illegal about it, but he could have just decided to kill me or anyone else in the store at a moments notice and there wasn't a single thing anyone there could do about it.
NoblesseOblige
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Doesn't matter what they find. He's white so it's going to be 'lone wolf' regardless.
Don't be too sure.
"I'm sure some of those dancers were bad people."
There is no new low.
Shake Appeal
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Not just Fox News. Steve Innskeep of NPR was talking in hushed tones about the "power" guns can give one man.
America's culture of violence is toxic, top to bottom.
Pai Pai Master
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I'm on your side man, im all about banning them and prosecuting anyone who didn't comply. But we have a sickness in this country that would result in things getting a lot worse before they got better, if the government went that far. It's too far in the eyes of a lot of sick, gun-obsessed people out there.
If we had a competent government that actually cared, there'd be somewhere we could start that would be safe and effective. But we cant even get that far.
jellies_two
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Don't forget Trumps first act was to undo the obama rules that made it harder (but not impossible) for mentally unstable people to buy guns.
Who said it's ruled out? So far there just doesn't seem to be an indication that it has ties to terrorism, but that doesn't mean ruled out.
acheron_xl
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You assume the military would go along with it. If they were ever tasked with disarming the populace, I guarantee some would mutiny.
Yeah.. gun laws might not stop mass shootings/murders. Nothing probably will..
What it will help prevent? Those random shootings when people who get pissed off because their job fired them, their SO cheated on them, or they are just mad as hell and having a bad day and want to take it out on someone.
WesternHeretic
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It was 2 dead when I when to bed what the fuck.
Green Yoshi
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That's what people said when Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated, only five years afer his brother. And it has only getten worse over the past fifty years.
As Obama has said in April 2008: "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
It is not only about guns, it is about much more for many people. That's why politicians are afraid to call for a stricter gun regulation.
somecrazymember
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Sorry and rip to anyone involved in this 
Palette Swap
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These numbers are horrifying. Im not proud that I had grown kind of numb to terror attacks and shootings, but this is something else.
RIP to the victims and I sincerely hope the tally wont increase. Special thought for the hundreds who will have to live with the physical and mental scars left by this monster.
RIP to the victims and I sincerely hope the tally wont increase. Special thought for the hundreds who will have to live with the physical and mental scars left by this monster.
Darren870
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I didn't realize he was shooting from his room until a few mins ago when I was reading the full article.
Crazy they were able to pinpoint him and get in as soon as they did.
RIP
Mr. Luchador
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I can't even wrap my head around that being an accepted way of life. Standing their doing your job and wondering about that guy with the gun the entire time.
MaddenNFL64
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More good guys with automatic weapons to stop bad guys with automatic weapons of course!
What did you say? This guy had no criminal record? Oh no, the good guys are fucking capable of slaughtering a hundred people in a matter of minutes as well? Shocked.
DrForester
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Few new things from NBC (no link, heard on TV)
- Shooter was frequent visitor to Las Vegas
- Shooter shot himself, was dead when they entered
- Shooter was frequent visitor to Las Vegas
- Shooter shot himself, was dead when they entered
Croatoan
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Yup, people need to realize that a large portion of the military is from the south and would not attack their own people. You want a civil war, like a real one? Then try to grab guns. The mutinies would be rampant, police would turn on government and it would be middle of the country vs both coasts.
Who do think is going to win that after your military is split in half? Are you ok with carpet bombing Americans?
Warm Machine
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My guess is room neighbors heard the fire and called front desk. Would have been loud as fuck in a tiny hotel room.
HazySaiyan
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50+ dead, 400+ injured, I can barely even fathom it. I'm in shock.
Nordic4tKnight
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Gambling losses maybe?
Isn't the justification for gun laws that the populace could go up against the military? (l-o-l)
jellies_two
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Well technically they didn't get him, he shot himself before his door was breached.
20 little kids got murdered in their school and nothing happened then.
Nothing will happen now.
America loves having guns more than it loves people not getting murdered by guns.
America has accepted thousands of gun-related deaths a year as a price worth paying for the opportunity for thousands of more gun-related deaths to happen the year after.
Chuckie
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Yeah and the 'answer' to less gun related kills is somehow not making sure that guy cannot carry a weapon, but to have everyone carry one.
Saw some journalist say it on Twitter. They probably just misworded the police statement
2blackcats
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They can have their shotguns. Just no assault rifles.
Sato Koiji
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You know whats even worse? A losing gambler that is/was in the military. Oh boy...
SomewhatGroovy
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I feel so awful for the man in Arkansas falsely , but confidently, accused of doing this, citing his like for Rachel maddow show as sole evidence .
People are fucking awful
People are fucking awful
I'm surprised he's not talking about the historic nature of this event, the biggest in history etc like he did with the hurricanes.
I bet someone took his phone.
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