They get that from helpful support, not people on a forum going from one extreme to another.
I don't think so, mind sharing?
It's sickening people are showing their true color
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I don't think so, mind sharing?
LordOcidax
Member
Lolol, and people think that Gaf is done... In a few days everything is going back to normal.
DarkestHour
Banned
I'm sickened by the generalization that all of GAF is like the off topic group or the social justice warriors crying over everything. Some of just enjoy games and hobbies and would like to keep the discussions to that!
Militant17
Member
?. Those posts you quoted are not conflicting at all, i think you misread them?
PayForYourGas
Banned
Get this OT shit off the gaming forum
Do your own legwork if you want to be supportful.
LightningXCE
Member
And put it where, exactly?
There's a new forum?
Yeah it's apparently coming online later today (according to a post I read earlier).
It's being created by people who have left this site in the hope of re-uniting the "good" gaf community.
For me personally Neogaf was good despite the community, not because of it. I'm here for the gaming news.
In my mind though I think Neogaf is going to get much better once the "good community" leave.
PayForYourGas
Banned
Not here, go to twitter or something.
I think the true meaning of being supportful in this sense would you be happily providing me a link since when I Google GirlGAF I get loads of OT threads what dont exist anymore.
But you keep on being a dick, cause that doesn't exactly describe what I'm talking about or anything /s.
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
It may be OT, but you're still thread whining in a thread you didn't have to click. Presumably the old rules will apply once the insanity has calmed a bit, so since you're new to the forum you should know that thread whining is against the rules.
Hopefully all of the trolling slows down when people get bored of the controversy.
CrimzonSamurai
Member
One claims that they were hounded for not being progressive enough and the other claims they were hounded for not liking Hillary. those are contradictory.
Why do you care so much about the state of GAF, mr. 20 posts since 2015?
mr teaspoon
Member
You and I had very, very different experiences, apparently.
Melkezadek
Member
I honestly rarely ever got that impression. I voted for Bernie in the primaries, but after awhile there were PLENTY of "Busters" who would constantly antagonize and never have anything honest to contribute. What got especially annoying was the tone after, which was "Listen to us, or we won't support the platform and you'll losing" all while trying to say they had nothing to do with the lose of the election. They continue to speak out of both sides of their mouth on it.
Another annoyance is that if we are to accept that most Bernie supporters voted for Hillary, then who are we labelling as "Hillary" supporters? I was a Bernie supporter who still stands by my choice to vote for her. Am I a "Hillary" supporter?
The "Yaass QUEEN" mocking that littered threads was hurtful to me as a minority, who really had a lot riding on this election. Yea she lost, haha, but now we're the ones who are suffering. Very funny.
It was always a fight against those people. Those were Busters, not Bernie supporters.
Edit: And to clarify, there were "Hillary" supporters chastising Bernie's policy and the man as well. It became worse around the middle of his campaign, when it appeared to me that it became a matter of ego when he was clearly going to lose. I can respect the desire to show we all have the ability to run a campaign, and almost win, but it became purity tests. It became "let's use the superdelegates to win" it again led people to believe in something that wasn't going to happen, but not democratic at all. It's similar to how we hate the electoral college. Another tool against the majority who actually got up and voted.
NHarmonic.
Member
You really don't know about gaming communities, or maybe you're part of the awful ones so you don't care, but GAF was definitely good for the people, not for being GAF. We had amazing contributors, devs, people from the industry, insiders, artists, musicians, and a lot just went away after this fiasco.
If you want gaming news go to IGN. If the community doesn't make it for you then i don't get why do you chose GAF over the rest of the gaming outlets.
Militant17
Member
In what world? All the progressives here wanted Hillary, if you spoke ill of her you were branded a Trump supporter. Both those statements essentially say the same thing. I think you're confused?
prag16
Banned
No conflict here. Part of the gaf purity test entails (or entailed) unbridled praise and adoration of Queen Hilldawg.
The things you mention (in bold) are what made Neogaf great.
As far as I'm aware they're not all going to Resetera though are they? The posters who made public account suicides and mentioned they're going to the new forum certainly don't fit the criteria you mentioned.
As I said I'm on this site because of the news, not the bullshit around it.
We're still in a bit of a transition period, so who knows how this site will end up. If it becomes nothing more than threads like this, then it won't be worth visiting as someone with an interest in gaming.
I'd also be cautious that the other site doesn't turn into a site that simply revolves around hating Neogaf, one big circlejerk if you will...
comparing the two sets of allegations seems like belittling of Harvey's victims. Those two situations seem very different, especially after reading the background of the story on Vice and eventual outcome.
levyjl1988
Banned
Not sure if it is crowd psychology at work but man everything in here went south. So many social justice warriors. How can we confirm if everything that went down happened. Everything is skewed. There is a matter of false perception, feelings, invulnerability, protection of career and status, all ingredients of a great story. Besides that this is a great cross examination of behavior. People inacting social justice only to realize they themselves are not being moderated.
https://youarenotsosmart.com/2016/08/24/yanss-podcast-082-crowds-rebroadcast/
I only come here for video game news. At best its good to seperate a personal life from what is at subject. Its like looking at Enders Game. Sure the writer was a racist, but he still delivered a good book. I think we should seperate the individual and the work. Stay on topic. When things bleed over then it induces vitrol in the community and we see troll posts. I dont care about peoples personal lives unless it has some connection to video games. Let me just have my video game news. Too much emotional boycotting of this once great site.
https://youarenotsosmart.com/2016/08/24/yanss-podcast-082-crowds-rebroadcast/
I only come here for video game news. At best its good to seperate a personal life from what is at subject. Its like looking at Enders Game. Sure the writer was a racist, but he still delivered a good book. I think we should seperate the individual and the work. Stay on topic. When things bleed over then it induces vitrol in the community and we see troll posts. I dont care about peoples personal lives unless it has some connection to video games. Let me just have my video game news. Too much emotional boycotting of this once great site.
PayForYourGas
Banned
I come here to lurk in the GAMING DISCUSSION forum, not watch as every post turns into Off-Topic discussion. That forum is gone for now.
enfieldvball
Member
Same, just want breaking game news/coverage and discussion and that's it.
You can get that OT stuff elsewhere like Reddit.
Is the overly-sensitive GAF lot going there or what?
I haven't really followed all this drama closely but aren't these just accusations levied against the guy? It hasn't been proven that he did what's been said?
Its crazy. Not saying that the accusations are false but ANYONE can make shit up and proper fuck up your reputation. This whole guilty before proven innocent thing is so dangerous.
Anyway, I'll check out the new forum to say hi but man, the way this has been handled and the massive shit storm it has generated is insane.
I just wanna play games and chat shit man!
Trickster
Member
I've not seen a single of the people who are done with gaf saying that they think they are the majority.
I predict most community threads on gaf will lose most of their prominent members though. The only one I frequented with regularity, the sf5 one, is in that situation at least.
I don't think you quite grasp what separated Gaf from other sites.
Hint: that "good community" was a large part of it.
I'm curious about this as well.
I think it will eventually survive.
I hope the stain of this does not discourage any industry professionals from rejoining.
You can get a preview of that by checking GAMEFAQS.
Green Yoshi
Member
Not if you only care about games (on a gaming forum).
If you want to discuss US politics, yeah, then you are right.
Seductivpancakes
Member
All if not most of the prominent members are leaving, and you can forget game devs or gaming personalities coming back to post on Gaf.
A dev requesting a ban.
An old, respected member trying to suicide, but failing (NSFW).
A well respected new user leaving without suiciding.
So many ones that I recognise as important and helpful and smart and timely in regards to this community are gone. It doesn't matter how they left (at least in the grand scheme of things) to me. These people were the GAF I loved.
You don't have to feel the same way of course, just bringing in my perspective.
Edit: That last thread linked is gone now.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
numbers have gone up they are approving accounts that have been in the application phase
There are many gaming forums, the reasons gaf stood out are gone now. At the moment this site is toxic to anyone in the industry.
Anonymous banning and removal of the account vetting process do not point to better things to come.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Acc vetting is gone?
Yeah can fully agree OP. It was so awful and disgusting to read all the schadenfreude and "let them burn" posts over the internet. No matter where I went it was always "Good, SJW needs to die" and "No more safe place for you haha". Like wtf man. If you don´t like it here just don´t visit the damn site. The hate was unbearable.
I can understand that many felt that over the time GAF (especially Off Topic) became toxic and very left oriented and everything was an echo chamber for them but I still think that this forum is the most adult moderated place around the internet. The mods did a fantastic job here and if you stay with the rules (most important and simple one is: have a healthy discussion) you don´t had to be afraid to get banned even if you had a controversial opinion.
And to see now so many users screaming "Ban me" before even knowing all the facts was so eyeopening. It´s mind-boggling how many jumped to conclusion in this short period of time. But to be fair it was a homemade disaster and we were almost at the point where the beast would eat itself alive. The "black and white" mentality that build up over the years had almost destroyed this forum. And to everyone who thinks that his/her leaving or banning would have an effect and help closing this forum: I´ve to disappoint you. It´s like suicide in RL. You can´t harm other people forever with your suicide. Yes, you will make them sad but where your life has ended, the life of the others continues and soon or later you will be nothing more than a memory. So attempting suicide just to hope that people will follow you or feel bad about it forever, that´s not how it works unfortunately.
I´m just glad that GAF still exists. It became more than a regular forum on the internet for me (like for many others too I guess). It will take a long time until all the damage and lost reputation are repaired and restored but I think GAF is worth the fight.
I can understand that many felt that over the time GAF (especially Off Topic) became toxic and very left oriented and everything was an echo chamber for them but I still think that this forum is the most adult moderated place around the internet. The mods did a fantastic job here and if you stay with the rules (most important and simple one is: have a healthy discussion) you don´t had to be afraid to get banned even if you had a controversial opinion.
And to see now so many users screaming "Ban me" before even knowing all the facts was so eyeopening. It´s mind-boggling how many jumped to conclusion in this short period of time. But to be fair it was a homemade disaster and we were almost at the point where the beast would eat itself alive. The "black and white" mentality that build up over the years had almost destroyed this forum. And to everyone who thinks that his/her leaving or banning would have an effect and help closing this forum: I´ve to disappoint you. It´s like suicide in RL. You can´t harm other people forever with your suicide. Yes, you will make them sad but where your life has ended, the life of the others continues and soon or later you will be nothing more than a memory. So attempting suicide just to hope that people will follow you or feel bad about it forever, that´s not how it works unfortunately.
I´m just glad that GAF still exists. It became more than a regular forum on the internet for me (like for many others too I guess). It will take a long time until all the damage and lost reputation are repaired and restored but I think GAF is worth the fight.
Lonewulfeus
Member
I don't think banned members are removed from the total number of accounts so that number doesn't mean much.
I really wish this all never happened. I feel like I'll be attacked for giving my opinion now, and actual discourse will be lost in the sea of shitposts for attention. I understand everyone supposedly sticking to their moral principals, but, like, why not just leave silently? Is it making a statement or is it craving attention? GAF isn't one person or its mods. It's us? You're ruining something we all loved... for us? Like, maybe if people calmed down and perhaps waited for the full story? I've been falsely accused of sexual harassment by an ex wanting to fuck with me. It was terrible and almost ruined a lot of good things in my life. I believe women, but I give men a fair chance too. The Amir0x thing is unforgivable, yeah... but how would you have handled it?
I dunno what to do here. I miss GAF before all this happened. I feel like we lost a ton of good users and for what? As a law student, I've always believed in innocent until proven guilty, but this is anything but that. But maybe I'm wrong... I just don't want to be attacked for having a differing opinion here. I rarely, if ever, went to the off-topic side of GAF, so I'm not as aghast as everyone else. This place was an amazing haven for gaming discussion. Our interaction was with each other, not its staff. If you had to protest let it be known, use an adblocker, whatever... but why did you have to leave us? I'm probably going to miss reading your posts. I loved all of you guys, even you snarky assholes. (You know the ones I'm talking about.) I do respect women, but I also respect this forum immensely. I feel hesitant to post until this situation gets cleaned up. I guess I'll go check the discord and see where everyone is... But I'm still going to lurk and hope better days are to come.
I hope it gets back on its feet...
I dunno what to do here. I miss GAF before all this happened. I feel like we lost a ton of good users and for what? As a law student, I've always believed in innocent until proven guilty, but this is anything but that. But maybe I'm wrong... I just don't want to be attacked for having a differing opinion here. I rarely, if ever, went to the off-topic side of GAF, so I'm not as aghast as everyone else. This place was an amazing haven for gaming discussion. Our interaction was with each other, not its staff. If you had to protest let it be known, use an adblocker, whatever... but why did you have to leave us? I'm probably going to miss reading your posts. I loved all of you guys, even you snarky assholes. (You know the ones I'm talking about.) I do respect women, but I also respect this forum immensely. I feel hesitant to post until this situation gets cleaned up. I guess I'll go check the discord and see where everyone is... But I'm still going to lurk and hope better days are to come.
I hope it gets back on its feet...
rackham
Banned
Well there's already a movement on twitter from Trump supporters, 4channers, GGers etc. to get in on ResetEra when it goes live so things are looking bleak for them already.
QuixoticNeutral
Member
I loved your Mario Maker stages.
Completely irrespective of the allegations or EviLore's response, it's clear that the community here had to bear the brunt of the consequences for something that had nothing to do with us. That's the part I'm able to have an opinion on; that's the part I'm able to verify; and that's the part that I know for certain was grossly unfair. So I don't fault anyone for leaving, though I wish there was a little less outright trashing of the place on their way out the door.
BotoxAgent
Member
is OT gone for good?
BadAss2961
Member
I agree, Dick.
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