It's sickening people are showing their true color

Just because you say left wing is just as bad doesn't make it true. There are facts to be discovered about the world. It's not just opinions.

Also , because someone has a gay brother and is generally civil doesn't mean they don't have bigoted beliefs.

I know you don't like the word, but it is what it is. If you don't think people deserve equal rights then you'll need to justify that position.

Care to explain why you hold that view and why your position is not bigoted?
Tell me where I said people can't have equal rights. Please do. I said I don't care what people do. Just because I don't believe something does not mean people don't have he right to do it. So tell me were you are not being disingenuous? I believe people have the right to do what they want as long,as it does not infringe on other people's rights. And yes that includes my rights also. So are you telling me I have to believe what you do. That is a scary police state, no?
 
Maybe so, but I'm here until the end. Let the games talk commence!

Indeed!

For whatever it's worth I've been here for YEARS and have no regrets of the great GAME discussions I've had with all of you. I'm not sure where things are headed now, but I'm gonna stick around until the final gateway timeout.
 
I will tell you as long as you don't explode like a lot of, "left wing people do" .... See This is how it starts. You say right wing people our bad I say left wing people are just as bad. Then it gets us know where. As far as my beliefs I go to church,do believe in a man and women marriage, but that is my beliefs I don't force them on anybody,yes I denounce white supremacy. And just for clarification my brother is gay and married to a man. We still love each other, but that dose not mean I have to agree with it. I really don't care what anybody does, but it goes both ways. I will respect you as person as long as you do the same. See not so hard to be civil. So am I evil incarnate because I have different believes?

You don't agree that your brother should have the same rights as you?

That's enough, we don't need to hear anything else form you.
 
Tell me where I said people can't have equal rights. Please do. I said I don't care what people do. Just because I don't believe something does not mean people don't have he right to do it. So tell me were you are not being disingenuous? I believe people have the right to do what they want as long,as it does not infringe on other people's rights. And yes that includes my rights also. So are you telling me I have to believe what you do. That is a scary police state, no?

Huh?

So you support the right of gay people to marry? If you had to vote on its legality you would vote yes?

What does "not believing in gay marriage" mean? It exists, so yeah...

Also, you didn't defend your position nor address why it's not bigoted. You just deflected into self victimization.

And I do think people should believe as many correct and good things as possible. We share a reality. We affect each other. I didn't say you should be forced. It's impossible anyways. So yeah. I believe in discussion and reason. Which is why I asked you to explain your position. Instead you start self victimizing.. (typical really.. ) :/
 
I will tell you as long as you don't explode like a lot of, "left wing people do" .... See This is how it starts. You say right wing people our bad I say left wing people are just as bad. Then it gets us know where. As far as my beliefs I go to church,do believe in a man and women marriage, but that is my beliefs I don't force them on anybody,yes I denounce white supremacy. And just for clarification my brother is gay and married to a man. We still love each other, but that dose not mean I have to agree with it. I really don't care what anybody does, but it goes both ways. I will respect you as person as long as you do the same. See not so hard to be civil. So am I evil incarnate because I have different believes?

Oh god, here comes the old, tired argument of contradictions. You don't care what anybody does yet you find something to disagree with when they do it. Do you know how stupid that sounds?
 
This will make GAF stronger. The idiots that are leaving were the people that hated and trolled for fun anyway.

Yeah, posters like Cerium and mods like Nirolak were definitely just here to troll around. Get outta here with that nonsense. Stay if you want, but why spread FUD about people who have chosen to leave for their own moral imperatives?
 
You don't agree that your brother should have the same rights as you?

That's enough, we don't need to hear anything else form you.
Show me where I said he did not have the right. I don't agree with it that is my beliefs. So you don't agree. Let's move on and get gAming. We won't agree.
 
I will tell you as long as you don't explode like a lot of, "left wing people do" .... See This is how it starts. You say right wing people our bad I say left wing people are just as bad. Then it gets us know where. As far as my beliefs I go to church,do believe in a man and women marriage, but that is my beliefs I don't force them on anybody,yes I denounce white supremacy. And just for clarification my brother is gay and married to a man. We still love each other, but that dose not mean I have to agree with it. I really don't care what anybody does, but it goes both ways. I will respect you as person as long as you do the same. See not so hard to be civil. So am I evil incarnate because I have different believes?

You don't agree with it? So you're saying homosexuality is wrong? I mean it sounds a lot like a way of trying to say it without actually using the words.
 
Show me where I said he did not have the right. I don't agree with it that is my beliefs. So you don't agree. Let's move on and get gAming. We won't agree.

Here's where the issue comes from: your "belief" is that you don't "agree" with the way a person was born.
 
You don't agree with it? So you're saying homosexuality is wrong? I mean it sounds a lot like a way of trying to say it without actually using the words.
That is my belief. The difference is I don't call people out on it like people do who don't agree with me. I know just hook me up. Anyway it has gone on long enough. Let's just leave it as it is. Enjoy your games
 
The most toxic posts I've seen have been rape jokes from people nuking their accounts. ResetEra has its work cut out for it if these are going to be its Day 1 users.

Just think about the victim posting her traumatic past, with great courage, only to find out it has become an Internet meme. GAF is made of a bunch of manchild, and really, many people shouldn't talk about anything beyond videogames.
 
Show me where I said he did not have the right. I don't agree with it that is my beliefs. So you don't agree. Let's move on and get gAming. We won't agree.

That's exactly the point, you don't think others should have the same rights as you. You are a terrible person and you should know it.

To make it clear, I don't give a crap about your "belief", you personally do not agree that other human being should have the same rights of you. To put it in simple terms, you disgust me.
 
This will make GAF stronger. The idiots that are leaving were the people that hated and trolled for fun anyway.

Seems to me it mostly consists of people with 1000+ posts that are leaving. People with ~500 posts are all of the sudden coming out of the woodwork.
 
Here's where the issue comes from: your "belief" is that you don't "agree" with the way a person was born.
Yet I,don't confront that person. But you must confront my beliefs know? Let's leave it as it is. I am who I am. We can agree to enjoy our games. Have a great night
 
That's exactly the point, you don't think others should have the same rights as you. You are a terrible person and you should know it.

To make it clear, I don't give a crap about your "belief", you personally do not agree that other human being should have the same rights of you. To put it in simple terms, you disgust me.
O my one more time show me were I said they don't have the right. I said the opposite. Have a great night
 
Yet I,don't confront that person. But you must confront my beliefs know? Let's leave it as it is. I am who I am. We can agree to enjoy our games. Have a great night

Yes, your silly illogical beliefs should be confronted otherwise you may inadvertently hurt others without even knowing it.
 
So am I evil incarnate because I have different believes?

Not different. It's not about different.

My favorite lunch meat is probably pastrami. Some people prefer turkey; others, salami. Still others enjoy ham. And some believe those who don't put bologna on the top of the list are shameful and bad.

Lots of different beliefs there. Guess which one I have a problem with?
 
That is my belief. The difference is I don't call people out on it like people do who don't agree with me. I know just hook me up. Anyway it has gone on long enough. Let's just leave it as it is. Enjoy your games

Wut. So now you run away... :/
Your beliefs get challenged. You're asked for clarification and justification. And you stick your fingers in your ears and run away.

People call you out on it because IT AFFECTS THEIR LIVES.
 
Anyone left here is a complete hypocrite and financially supporting a person who is a complete creep. All the liberal bullshit and attacks on conservative members and yet here you guys are still. Pathetic ball-less liberals who hold a double standard. Good luck. Also the mods that are still working are the biggest pieces of shit of them all.

Thank you to those of you with actual values and left. The official gaming threads were amazing. Looking forward to seeing more of that in other forums.

Please Delete
 
What's surprising is after this whole Evilore scandal, people are coming out and blaming the OT and its strict moderation against bigots as the reason GAF just crumbled. Like, what? The OT had nothing to do with this nonsense. I'm sorry if people had their feelings hurt being "dogpiled" for their unsupported opinions and beliefs, but the OT was always about "nut up or shut up" with evidence. It seems like there were a lot of people who couldn't help being challenged in that way. Quite frankly the persecutory delusions that people display about how they have been mistreated in OT showcase a very misguided view in which they simply seem upset that they can't say anything and everything. Yeah, you can't say stupid bigoted shit on this forum, and shouldn't get upset when you get called out on it. In short, the discussions on OT were generally fine. That's not the reason GAF is in the shitter right now, let's make that clear.
 
Yes, you silly illogical beliefs should be confronted otherwise you may inadvertently hurt others without even knowing it.
Yeah you know me right? Pure evil. What is ironic is one of the people I look up to is my high school teacher for the 12th grade. He leans left I lean right. We have great discussion about president and peoples beliefs. We learn from each other. Yet y'all take the approach not to listen but attack. At least there is hope for us we we can all talk and not attack. Good night all.
 
Anyone left here is a complete hypocrite and financially supporting a person who is a complete creep. All the liberal bullshit and attacks on conservative members and yet here you guys are still. Pathetic ball-less liberals who hold a double standard. Good luck. Also the mods that are still working are the biggest pieces of shit of them all.

Thank you to those of you with actual values and left. The official gaming threads were amazing. Looking forward to seeing more of that in other forums.

Please Delete
I say it every time: Glad to see you go. People like you have poisoned discussion on this forum for years and having you willingly leave has truely been a blessing in disguise for the future of the community.
 
What's surprising is after this whole Evilore scandal, people are coming out and blaming the OT and its strict moderation against bigots as the reason GAF just crumbled. Like, what? The OT had nothing to do with this nonsense. I'm sorry if people had their feelings hurt being "dogpiled" for their unsupported opinions and beliefs, but the OT was always about "nut up or shut up" with evidence. It seems like there were a lot of people who couldn't help being challenged in that way. Quite frankly the persecutory delusions that people display about how they have been mistreated in OT showcase a very misguided view in which they simply seem upset that they can't say anything and everything. Yeah, you can't say stupid bigoted shit on this forum, and shouldn't get upset when you get called out on it. In short, the discussions on OT were generally fine. That's not the reason GAF is in the shitter right now, let's make that clear.

It is. You drove out any conservatives that would have the opinion that people are entitled to their side of the story before freaking the fuck out. But idk. GL
 
I say it every time: Glad to see you go. People like you have poisoned discussion on this forum for years and having you willingly leave has truely been a blessing in disguise for tge future of the community.

Look at my post history. Poisoned the discussion is a bit fucking extreme. Presenting another point of view and getting almost ran over is a great way of looking at it.
 
They are welcome to do so, I hope the alternatives work out for them. I choose to stay.

I personally don’t understand the account suicide thing. I’m legitimately asking...is that what folks are using as their ticket into ResetEra? “Look...I’m part of the movement! I nuked my GAF account, so lemme in!” The internet is a weird place sometimes.

I’m just happy to see actual games discussion dominate the board again...it’s why I’m here.
 
Seems to me it mostly consists of people with 1000+ posts that are leaving. People with ~500 posts are all of the sudden coming out of the woodwork.

because changes are happening and we feel more comfortable talking without being punished or ignored or insulted over nothing. ive been lurking since 2011. don't try and make us less relevant because of our post count.

and lets be realistic, nearly every fucking user who Tyler thought would have his back, have completely turned their backs on him, over an allegation he has denied, this wasn't an overnight thing, all these "Huge" members have had this in action for months to abandon everyone here. they were just waiting for the right moment, so fuck them

Thanks friends.
 
Anyone left here is a complete hypocrite and financially supporting a person who is a complete creep. All the liberal bullshit and attacks on conservative members and yet here you guys are still. Pathetic ball-less liberals who hold a double standard. Good luck. Also the mods that are still working are the biggest pieces of shit of them all.

Thank you to those of you with actual values and left. The official gaming threads were amazing. Looking forward to seeing more of that in other forums.

Please Delete

Personally here because I'd rather fight than run away. Not judging you though.
 
I say it every time: Glad to see you go. People like you have poisoned discussion on this forum for years and having you willingly leave has truely been a blessing in disguise for tge future of the community.

Is your avatar Rick Scott, the Florida Governer? No reason that would be relevant... just an interesting coincidence.
 
I personally don’t understand the account suicide thing. I’m legitimately asking...is that what folks are using as their ticket into ResetEra? “Look...I’m part of the movement! I nuked my GAF account, so lemme in!” The internet is a weird place sometimes.

I’m just happy to see actual games discussion dominate the board again...it’s why I’m here.

Game discussion never left... :/
 
Yeah you know me right? Pure evil. What is ironic is one of the people I look up to is my high school teacher for the 12th grade. He leans left I lean right. We have great discussion about president and peoples beliefs. We learn from each other. Yet y'all take the approach not to listen but attack. At least there is hope for us we we can all talk and not attack. Good night all.

First of all I didn't call you pure evil. You just completely invented that in your mind. Does that tell you anything? Also you keep saying goodnight to everyone but keep coming back, something must be gnawing at you. Maybe it's your conscience, listen to it.
 
O my one more time show me were I said they don't have the right. I said the opposite. Have a great night

You said you don't agree with it. That means if you had your way you'd get rid of it because it does not agree with you. You're being disingenuous with everyone here and especially yourself.
 
Wut. So now you run away... :/
Your beliefs get challenged. You're asked for clarification and justification. And you stick your fingers in your ears and run away.

People call you out on it because IT AFFECTS THEIR LIVES.
Not one,person, has showed were I said people don't have the right. Please take your blinders off and your hatred. You will feel much better. I can leave with people know matter who they are and respect and love them. That is my beliefs. I don't have to agree with what you do to make you feel better do I. Just come down and keep it civil. Go back and look at the thread to see who is getting hot. Better when we can talk and not loose it.
 
Not one,person, has showed were I said people don't have the right. Please take your blinders off and your hatred. You will feel much better. I can leave with people know matter who they are and respect and love them. That is my beliefs. I don't have to agree with what you do to make you feel better do I. Just come down and keep it civil. Go back and look at the thread to see who is getting hot. Better when we can talk and not loose it.

Who's not talking calmly??


So AGAIN. if you had to vote on legality of gay marriage, you would vote yes? (Third time asking).

Also, again. You haven't defended your position. I explained that i can't agree to disagree. (it affects people)
 
You said you don't agree with it. That means if you had your way you'd get rid of it because it does not agree with you. You're being disingenuous with everyone here and especially yourself.
No it does not. Please use your brain. I said people have....... the right. I do not judge what you do. Try it some times you will feel better and live longer. Get to get to bed. Have a great night
I have to get to bed lol. Sorry mis type
 
Not one,person, has showed were I said people don't have the right. Please take your blinders off and your hatred. You will feel much better. I can leave with people know matter who they are and respect and love them. That is my beliefs. I don't have to agree with what you do to make you feel better do I. Just come down and keep it civil. Go back and look at the thread to see who is getting hot. Better when we can talk and not loose it.

Well if you were in charge and disagreed with gay marriage so much what would you do about it? What is there even to disagree with honestly?
 
Who's not talking calmly??


So AGAIN. if you had to vote on legality of gay marriage, you would vote yes? (Third time asking).

Also, again. You haven't defended your position. I explained that i can't agree to disagree. (it affects people)
I would not vote. Just like I did not vote for either candidate for president. I know that is not what you want to hear but it's the truth and who I am. Personally that is a hard question for me if I am honest, I think people have the right to do what they want. I just don't have to agree with it
 
What's surprising is after this whole Evilore scandal, people are coming out and blaming the OT and its strict moderation against bigots as the reason GAF just crumbled. Like, what? The OT had nothing to do with this nonsense. I'm sorry if people had their feelings hurt being "dogpiled" for their unsupported opinions and beliefs, but the OT was always about "nut up or shut up" with evidence. It seems like there were a lot of people who couldn't help being challenged in that way. Quite frankly the persecutory delusions that people display about how they have been mistreated in OT showcase a very misguided view in which they simply seem upset that they can't say anything and everything. Yeah, you can't say stupid bigoted shit on this forum, and shouldn't get upset when you get called out on it. In short, the discussions on OT were generally fine. That's not the reason GAF is in the shitter right now, let's make that clear.

You know this isn't true. The OT was policed as much for tone as it was content. People caught bans for the silliest reasons. That's before you get to the double standard in favor of the 'chosen' posters who had permission to say incredibly outlandish things. It was especially bad during election season, even for progressives.
 
I personally don’t understand the account suicide thing. I’m legitimately asking...is that what folks are using as their ticket into ResetEra? “Look...I’m part of the movement! I nuked my GAF account, so lemme in!” The internet is a weird place sometimes.

I’m just happy to see actual games discussion dominate the board again...it’s why I’m here.

No, that isn't a requirement. People are upset and suiciding.
 
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