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[BlitzerRadic]

His comparison lies on the extreme, but his point is that people already decided that amirox was guilty before he was convicted while holding leeway for Evilore.

This is pretty unreal, people are actually defending amir0x to demonize evillore.

These are the facts:

Law enforcement surveilled amir0x and got a judge to sign off on a warrant to search his home. During the search (he was home) they found images and video of CP with file names indicative of cp. . After being arrested, he made a statement of admission to investigators.

The issue with this comparison is that Amirox supposedly told the police "he didn't know it was illegal" which allows for the assumption that he is in fact guilty.

People are saying he is guilty because the body of evidence against him is overwhelming and he freaking admitted to it!!!

 

[LakeEarth]

I don't believe the real issue is the allegations. To be honest while it doesn't look good for anyone and I doubt the woman involved just made this up for a laugh, it is ultimately their business.

The real issue is the way it was dealt with on site. Mass post deletions, thread locks, site shutdown, no communication, spoke with journalists before even a twitter post etc. It showed people that the community was at the mercy of one individuals humours, and that threatened thousands of relationships, in a hundred different groups. People were lost without it, but realised they had no control at all over its existence. This is what spawned a new forum and made people 'convict him' as you put it, not the allegations themselves.

Thanks, this post made me better understand what happened last week. I was busy on a work trip and completely missed the whole incident. I was confused on why this incident in particular led to such a collapse and mass exodus, but this post helped clarify things.

 

[Metalingus5150]

The accusation isn't what drove everyone out. When it came out, there were threads "please wait for a response" no response happened. Mods started leaving, EVERY mod left eventually. Then the bs act of shutting down off topic and saying that social and political discourse won't be a thing anymore. Also now you have time limits on PM's, links getting banned on PM's, and even resetera was getting banned. Not to mention the post editing notification thing going on plus Anon mods now. The response to the situation has been terrible and has caused people to seek a better place in ResetEra.

 

[Xtyle]

To be honest they already largely left or waiting to leave before these changes were announce but you are right these changes aren't really good regardless of intentions...it just seems to be more restrictions to user control.

 

[draetenth]

I think more people might have been more upset with his response to everything going on than the allegations

This and I think some people were just itching for a reason to leave.

 

[numble]

To be honest they already largely left or waiting to leave before these changes were announce but you are right these changes aren't really good regardless of intentions...it just seems to be more restrictions to user control.

That's not true. When they left, the changes were in place. They could not access their OT history when they left, for example.

 

[EverydayBeast]

My avatar is a reminder of the consequence of choosing Hillary in the primary.

Thank god we didn’t vote Hillary “crooked” Clinton.

 

[aznpxdd]

But (she's bi)?

 

[Dusk Soldier]

I didn't see whatever all the hubbub is about. I logged off one day, and the next was met with a white page that stated, simply, "I'm fixing GAF." Odd, but who knows what happens with websites, it could have been a hack or anything. Then it was a down for maintenance message. Alright, things should be back to normal soon.

The site comes back up, and suddenly everyone hates Evilore and no one can say why. So I did some Googling as you do, and saw that all this is based on little more than a post on Facebook. A deleted post on Facebook at that.

I've seen nothing about charges being filed. Nothing about an arrest. No trial. No evidence. Just gossip.

It's been apparent for years that the orthodoxy on GAF takes a closed minded, almost belligerent approach to social ills, with a nasty streak of "guilty until proven innocent" rhetoric. (Unless you're Amir0x duping the community into giving you drug money, apparently that's cool with a lot of people on here.) Still, I never expected to see such upheaval over an unproven accusation. I've seen some of my favorite posters here say they will never post of GAF again because of this.

I can't quite say I'm sad to see the community here disintegrating, it is just an internet message board after all. But I do wish that a group that so constantly touts its self as reasonable, broadminded and forward thinking would take a step back and look at the situation from all sides. As it stands, I see an incredible set of knee jerk reactions leading to a community tearing its self apart.

And this isn't to say that I don't understand the reaction. The accusation, as unconvincing as a random Facebook post may be, is worrying, and the reaction to it reaching the community gives me pause. But why are so many here letting the first word be the last word? This story isn't finished, the definitive narrative hasn't been established. With the nature of this whole thing being what it is, I wouldn't be surprised if the parties involved tried to keep the next steps private, either.

It's because in the court of public opinion, you are guilty until proven innocent.

 

[CharmingCharlie]

It's because in the court of public opinion, you are guilty until proven innocent.

Not entirely true, in the court of public opinion you are guilty until proven innocent. Once you have been proven innocent you are still guilty as fuck because you know "there is no smoke without fire".

 

[Deleted member 17706]

To be honest they already largely left or waiting to leave before these changes were announce but you are right these changes aren't really good regardless of intentions...it just seems to be more restrictions to user control.

No, the mass account suicides did not begin until the Monday re-opening of the Gaming forum and the statement.

 

[Xtyle]

No, the mass account suicides did not begin until the Monday re-opening of the Gaming forum and the statement.

Well of course. They couldn't suicide when the site was down...
I thought there were already plenty before the shutdown asking for bans and that's what I was referring to earlier.

 

[graffix13]

What's with all these idiots asking to be banned? Do you think you are some kind of fucking online martyr?

Just makes you look like a stupid attention whore.

Don't post and don't come back. Simple.

 

[finowns]

The accusation isn't what drove everyone out. When it came out, there were threads "please wait for a response" no response happened. Mods started leaving, EVERY mod left eventually. Then the bs act of shutting down off topic and saying that social and political discourse won't be a thing anymore. Also now you have time limits on PM's, links getting banned on PM's, and even resetera was getting banned. Not to mention the post editing notification thing going on plus Anon mods now. The response to the situation has been terrible and has caused people to seek a better place in ResetEra.

Yeah I think shutting down the site was Evilore's biggest misstep. He probably doesn't watch Scandal, gotta control the narrative EL.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

I was on holiday the entire time all this stuff was happening. It was such a shitshow to follow what was actually happening

Now that the dust has kind of settled, it wasn't purely about the allegations..For the most part this YongYea video was helpful in summarizing what went down from what I gathered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq805Zog_dc

 

[Siyou]

I was on holiday the entire time all this stuff was happening. It was such a shitshow to follow what was actually happening

Now that the dust has kind of settled, it wasn't purely about the allegations..For the most part this YongYea video was helpful in summarizing what went down from what I gathered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq805Zog_dc

I hadn't seen this, but this is definitely worth a watch indeed.

 

[G-Bus]

Been here for over 10 years? Not sure exactly. Was in the same boat OP. Simply noticed GAF was down, few days later it's up and everyone is going crazy. Well not quite. After two days of nothing I did a quick Google and saw what was going on with Evillore.

I'd like to say I expect nothing less from GAF. Knee jerk, overly dramatic responses given what's going on.

I'm actually a little bit suprised at just how many people have seemingly left. Honestly doubt it will last. Feel bad for all those people that wanted to get banned.

Either way I don't see it lasting. This forum is way to popular and well known for it to die like this.

Time will tell I guess.

 

[Vkandrew]

What's with all these idiots asking to be banned? Do you think you are some kind of fucking online martyr?

Just makes you look like a stupid attention whore.

Don't post and don't come back. Simple.

This is my feeling as well. I can appreciate the people who are respectful and are wishing well and departing but it’s getting old seeing all the “ Fuck you Evilore” posts. Maybe it’s a requirement to join the new site.

 

[SoulUnison]

Y'know, I'm not -really- one for conspiracy theories, but with all that's gone on around the election and foreign powers trying to divide the country and how we keep finding that it only goes deeper and higher than we thought, I -have- to wonder if this was all some grand experiment to see if an entire community would turn on one guy they've probably never interacted with - if they even knew his name - over some 5 year old he-said-she-said drama that was already mostly public and forgotten about.

If it was that simple, then basically anyone can be a target since we probably all have years of online interactions sitting on servers somewhere. You just find something off-color someone said once, have a few people (and probably some bots) get outraged about it, and watch the fireworks.

It's actually prety terrifying. The internet is a terrible weapon.

For everyone who's leaving because "I don't want him to have money!" stop giving power so much power and consideration to a completely arbitrary and human-created system of currency and start giving it to critical thinking and compassion. If money is your reasoning for doing something, reflect on how it came to that.

 

[jimmypython]

Been here for over 10 years? Not sure exactly. Was in the same boat OP. Simply noticed GAF was down, few days later it's up and everyone is going crazy. Well not quite. After two days of nothing I did a quick Google and saw what was going on with Evillore.

I'd like to say I expect nothing less from GAF. Knee jerk, overly dramatic responses given what's going on.

I'm actually a little bit suprised at just how many people have seemingly left. Honestly doubt it will last. Feel bad for all those people that wanted to get banned.

Either way I don't see it lasting. This forum is way to popular and well known for it to die like this.

Time will tell I guess.

same here. I think I will stick around. The OP section seems pretty normal now.

 

[VeeP]

Been here for over 10 years? Not sure exactly. Was in the same boat OP. Simply noticed GAF was down, few days later it's up and everyone is going crazy. Well not quite. After two days of nothing I did a quick Google and saw what was going on with Evillore.

I'd like to say I expect nothing less from GAF. Knee jerk, overly dramatic responses given what's going on.

I'm actually a little bit suprised at just how many people have seemingly left. Honestly doubt it will last. Feel bad for all those people that wanted to get banned.

Either way I don't see it lasting. This forum is way to popular and well known for it to die like this.

Time will tell I guess.

Don't feel bad for them. There's other communities out there, and one in particular has over 16,000 in the past few days and it's topics (like Super Mario) are much more active compared to GAFs.

It'll be interesting to see how Gaf changes over the next year, population wise (I think it'll be fine) and opinions wise.

This is my feeling as well. I can appreciate the people who are respectful and are wishing well and departing but it's getting old seeing all the " Fuck you Evilore" posts. Maybe it's a requirement to join the new site.

Definitely not a requirement for the new site. Some people probably just felt disgusted by him tbh. Personally, I feel like they should not shit post and just move on but eh, it's the internet.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Well of course. They couldn't suicide when the site was down...
I thought there were already plenty before the shutdown asking for bans and that's what I was referring to earlier.

I was there Saturday morning and didn't see any outright ban requests. Just a bunch of people shitting up the place and demanding the statement.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

I have hardly ever seen a response on this board that most people agreed with though.

In the end, they will always be called a name and disliked from what I have mostly seen, or it seems that way. Maybe there were a few instances people liked an apology but can't remember it very well.
I do think EL's response was really badly handled, even more so than most I have seen. Even pdp did better, I feel like he just didn't care really I don't know he hasn't really had a genuinely nice response since then or at least not one I am aware of. If he was acting like that to the mods, then I can mostly get why they didn't want to deal with it.

 

[lenovox1]

Y'know, I'm not -really- one for conspiracy theories, but with all that's gone on around the election and foreign powers trying to divide the country and how we keep finding that it only goes deeper and higher than we thought, I -have- to wonder if this was all some grand experiment to see if an entire community would turn on one guy they've probably never interacted with - if they even knew his name - over some 5 year old he-said-she-said drama that was already mostly public and forgotten about.

If it was that simple, then basically anyone can be a target since we probably all have years of online interactions sitting on servers somewhere. You just find something off-color someone said once, have a few people (and probably some bots) get outraged about it, and watch the fireworks.

It's actually prety terrifying. The internet is a terrible weapon.

For everyone who's leaving because "I don't want him to have money!" stop giving power so much power and consideration to a completely arbitrary and human-created system of currency and start giving it to critical thinking and compassion. If money is your reasoning for doing something, reflect on how it came to that.

Repeat to yourself three times:

NeoGAF is not that important.

 

[TyrantII]

The posion is spreading.


Where'd the announcement thread go?

 

[HariKari]

Repeat to yourself three times:

NeoGAF is not that important.

PUBG has sold what, 15 million copies? 200k members or 15k, the importance of these forums are greatly overstated.

 

[David___]

The posion is spreading.


Where'd the announcement thread go?

The "State of Gaf" thread? Locked and de pinned since it turned into people asking for a invite for the other forum

 

[Renekton]

I was on holiday the entire time all this stuff was happening. It was such a shitshow to follow what was actually happening

Now that the dust has kind of settled, it wasn't purely about the allegations..For the most part this YongYea video was helpful in summarizing what went down from what I gathered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq805Zog_dc

Thanks alot for the link.

I originally thought the protests are mostly about the incident. Turns out it is more about the community's right of discourse in return for helping foster one of internet's premier gaming forums.

 

[JordanN]

I'm going to be a bit more honest and shed some bias.

I still stand that the allegation was overblown. To make a long story short, I recognize one gender has more to fear about sharing these issues than the other. However, even when looking at this privilege in mind, I still believe proper rule of law needs to be handed down before calling either person a monster. And in Evilore's defense, there has been no legal conviction made.

However, that was just the one allegation on Saturday. The more pressing matter should have been questioning the other two acts of misconduct surrounding Evilore. I wont post them here but it should be obvious what I'm referring to.

One could say the community did know about this but let it slide for other reasons. Now this becomes a fight of two ideologies. Some say it's personal and has nothing to do with why they come to GAF. Others would argue that no, he still must be held accountable for it and thus that's where people staged a walkout if he chooses not to talk or make changes.

Now I kinda fall into both camps from the above. I browsed the site without being reminded of his past, but if someone did get banned for questioning it, it would have only pushed the site closer to a tipping point because the justification for it would get weaker and weaker.

So this leaves one more final question. Why am I still here?

I feel even I did condemn Evilore, it wouldn't change much. Instead, sticking around and watching how he continues to interact with the site is more important. I know people in real life that if you want to change their personalities, you have to get to know them first. This may sound like cowardice, but if I went to everyone and said "No, you're wrong", chances are they're not going to care. They'll continue living the life they always had. But this is because they had no one to show them differently.

Now of course, there is a chance a person might think they were never in any wrongdoing no matter how much you talk. This is also a common occurrence with people I meet in real life. What is the appropriate response to this? Even I don't know. I could be right, I could be wrong. I rather approach each situation on an individual basis and see how it could impact me and others.

 

[TarNaru33]

This is pretty unreal, people are actually defending amir0x to demonize evillore.

These are the facts:

Law enforcement surveilled amir0x and got a judge to sign off on a warrant to search his home. During the search (he was home) they found images and video of CP with file names indicative of cp. . After being arrested, he made a statement of admission to investigators.



People are saying he is guilty because the body of evidence against him is overwhelming and he freaking admitted to it!!!

I am aware of that, my post completely stated everything you just did. I even called it an extreme comparison because it is not fitting to really compare, but the point is still the same. Innocent until admission of guilt or a jury decides is not exactly the best way to determine all of your decisions on whether someone is guilty of a crime or not.

Also, no one here is defending Amir0x, you guys are just twisting it to what u want to believe.

 

[Xtyle]

I was there Saturday morning and didn't see any outright ban requests. Just a bunch of people shitting up the place and demanding the statement.

Didn't people ask for ban after they figured the mods left? My fault if I got it wrong.

 

[Rest]

I'm not "convicting" Evilore for sexual misconduct, I'm convicting him for being a poor business owner. As far as I am a customer and stakeholder of NeoGaf, I feel I'm as qualified as anybody to assess his effectiveness as the site's owner.

This is a good point, it's something that I didn't touch on but I do recognize Evilore's tendency to be touchy and let his emotion effect how he interacts with the community and runs the site. In the past it's been humorous, like deleting that guy's account for demanding over and over to be given control of a thread. But there have been other, less entertaining times, like an account that was nuked for calling him gay. I get that there are issues, but is it reasonable that people lose sight of the fact that a human being owns and runs this site? That yes, human beings do do selfish things when their emotions are bruised?

And let me point out, just to be totally clear, Evilore is not the subject of this thread, even though he's a central figure in its topic. The community has cannibalized its self because of something he did, but was there no way to affect his ouster instead of breaking the whole thing apart? People on the other forum are lauding their 10,000 or so members, but it seems to me GAF has often had 20,000 concurrent visitors with many more at peak times. And those numbers were stable throughout a 24 hour period because they were users from around the world.

The forum has slowed down so much since it came back online, so many people left. It's early days, but I don't think any spinoffs will reach the heights of what GAF was, and GAF may never fully recover. I feel like a lot of people gave up, and the issue I have is that there was a lot to value about the environment GAF was. It was worth not giving up on, and it seems... inexplicable to me that so many people would leave instead of working toward a solution. I don't think breaking up was a solution to the issue people had.

 

[wachie]

I think more people might have been more upset with his response to everything going on than the allegations

people? internet misanthropes.

 

[Xtyle]

This a good point, it's something that I didn't touch on but I do recognize Evilore's tendency to be touchy and let his emotion effect how he interacts with the community and runs the site. In the past it's been humorous, like deleting that guy's account for demanding over and over to be given control of a thread. There have been some other times, like an account that was nuked for calling him gay. I get that there are issues, but is it reasonable that people lose sight of the fact that a human being owns and runs this site? That yes, human beings do do selfish things when their emotions are bruised?

And let me point out, just to be totally clear, Evilore is not the subject of this thread, even though he's a central figure in its topic. The community has cannibalized its self because of something he did, but was there no way to affect his ouster instead of breaking the whole thing apart? People on the other forum are lauding their 10,000 or so members, but it seems to me GAF has often had 20,000 concurrent visitors with many more at peak times. And those numbers were stable throughout a 24 hour period because they were users from around the world.

The forum has slowed down so much since it came back online, so many people left. It's early days, but I don't think any spinoffs will reach the heights of what GAF was, and GAF may never fully recover. I feel like a lot of people gave up, and the issue I have is that there was a lot to value about the environment GAF was. It was worth not giving up on, and it seems... inexplicable to me that so many people would leave instead of working toward a solution. I don't think breaking up was a solution to the issue people had.

So true.
If it was truly a wholesome community as many on the other side like to think, why didn't people start bounding up and demanding/negotiating changes be made before each going out in a fit of rage? What's the point? So we could have a different site owner/owners? I thought the problem wasn't so much that it was one man who had all the power, but more so that, and also the policies and rules had issues.

In stead of speaking up and bounding together and demanding change, everyone started digging into his past, ridiculing him, and just gave up. Maybe that community can be even bigger and stronger now in a different place, but that's not for sure but we know GAF was big and may not come back in a spiritual form at a different place...and that sucks.

It seems like, comparing to real live matters what would take days and weeks or even longer to resolve it took barely 1 weekend on GAF. All around sad.

 

[DasPenguin]

Hey, thanks for all that great evidence and those elucidating facts. You really made me think that maybe all this is warranted.

I defended the owner for the accusation, but there is proof that he had posted nude pictures of his ex-gf online. Revenge porn is a crime in my country and can ruin lives.

That also means the new site isn’t a “clean start” as the old mods knew about it for years.

 

[TarNaru33]

So true.
If it was truly a wholesome community as many on the other side like to think, why didn't people start bounding up and demanding/negotiating changes be made before each going out in a fit of rage? What's the point? So we could have a different site owner/owners? I thought the problem wasn't so much that it was one man who had all the power, but more so that, and also the policies and rules had issues.

In stead of speaking up and bounding together and demanding change, everyone started digging into his past, ridiculing him, and just gave up. Maybe that community can be even bigger and stronger now in a different place, but that's not for sure but we know GAF was big and may not come back in a spiritual form at a different place...and that sucks.

It seems like, comparing to real live matters what would take days and weeks or even longer to resolve it took barely 1 weekend on GAF. All around sad.

With the response that was given towards the allegation, Evilore's history, and the changes in GAF (making Mods invisible and the first message about OT when it was gone), why would anyone think that there was any possibility for negotiation? Nothing short of Evilore getting rid of himself as the head of NeoGAF would of sufficed since all those issues happened under him.

People DID speak up and demand things and guess what? Those very same people were banned for pointing out Evilore's flaws. The fact that the post you quoted acknowledges this, yet you all seem to want to put the burden on the community for change? He owns this website, no one can initiate change but him and everything shows he wasn't for the change that was needed.

However, that was just the one allegation on Saturday. The more pressing matter should have been questioning the other two acts of misconduct surrounding Evilore. I wont post them here but it should be obvious what I'm referring to.

One could say the community did know about this but let it slide for other reasons. Now this becomes a fight of two ideologies. Some say it's personal and has nothing to do with why they come to GAF. Others would argue that no, he still must be held accountable for it and thus that's where people staged a walkout if he chooses not to talk or make changes.

Now I kinda fall into both camps from the above. I browsed the site without being reminded of his past, but if someone did get banned for questioning it, it would have only pushed the site closer to a tipping point because the justification for it would get weaker and weaker.

People DID speak up about the that and those that did were banned. Even in the liberal sphere there are a lot of people that will look away from certain actions from people because they think it is normal/not that bad. Sexual harassment and sexual assault are part of those actions. The fact that these issues run rampant in society without consequence is testament to that. Think about it. How many people actually know that flashing your genitals (like going into a shower with a drunk person without asking first) at a person that did not want it, is classified as sexual assault? Yes he did leave when told, but consent was not given in the first place. It is not up to us to decide if it is "not that bad", it is up to the victim.

What you are seeing is the very tipping point you just mentioned... They are tired of Evilore and they have shown that by leaving and a minority of them decided to leave in a fit of rage/trolling behavior.

 

[Xtyle]

I am just saying. Everyone said he had all the power...but as we saw it, actually the members were the core of site and changes came extremely quick. I am not blaming the community as I was part of it, and still is. I am really hoping it works out here and also the 2.0 can match GAF's better days or suppress it (Since it would be a lot harder or impossible here to do it).

 

[SoulUnison]

Repeat to yourself three times:

NeoGAF is not that important.

NeoGaf isn't, of course not, but I'm actually saying it's terrifying because of exactly the opposite.
You're not really reading the meaning of what I'm saying.

It's a terrifying proof-of-concept that this sort of thing can happen even tangentially, without any "real" stakes, and people will pick "sides" and fight like it's life or death.
Imagine what I'm suggesting in a bigger arena with something truly on the line and then ask yourself how incredibly, ridiculously easy it would be to manipulate a population using the internet in such a way that they'd never even know or be willing to believe that they had been influenced because they felt they did personally go through the critical thinking process by way of falling into a seeming consensus.

What has mankind invented?

 

[SoulUnison]

^^^^
See? Who even is this guy?

[(Removed)]

He joined earlier this year, this is his third post ever, with his first being yesterday, his name is basically designed to be perfectly generic while still playing heavily into the site's "Gaming" identity, but he has such a vitriolic view about what's been going on that he immediately calls for a literal suicide and pivots the conversation to intentionally political and divisive terms like "virtue signaling" and "SJWs."

This is the enemy - it's here and it's pretending to talk to us in our language because we don't know if the other end of our internet connection is a person's genuine thought, a person that's being paid to be inflammatory online, a person who "trolls" for "fun," or even just a sophisticated bot.

 

[Rest]

Post was deleted.

Intentional irony?

 

[TarNaru33]

Post was deleted.

Lol...

What purpose would it be to nuke your account immediately though if you aren't an Alt account?

 

[SoulUnison]

Post was deleted.

So then you're a 24 year old calling others "retard" on the internet?

Why did you create you account back in March and then never use it until literally a half hour ago?
Why do you have such an opinion on the owner of a site you weren't even bothering to post to until less than an hour ago?

 

[WaterAstro]

^^^^
See? Who even is this guy?

Haters who have made a lot of alt accounts.

 

[SoulUnison]

Post was deleted.

Please, enlighten us as to what it's "really like here."

Post was deleted.

Yes, critical thinking is often disregarded as "elitism."
Wouldn't it be wonderful if you lived in a world where it was socially unacceptable for people to think above your level, and therefore never catch or spread suspicions of your schemes?
I mean, that's what you're really trying to create, right?

 

[Symphonia]

Post was deleted.

Excuseeee me, princess?

 

[Xtyle]

When you need mods and they are asleep...

 

[PabloBolivar]

Post was deleted.

I don't defend anyone but myself and don't care even who owns this site. So am I a hypocrite? No.

 

[RinsFury]

Fuck the elf. This is the third time he's been involved in a sexual misconduct scandal. He doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt or a second chance. Isn't it funny how the biggest virtue signalling SJW cunts often turn out to be horrible people? Seriously though, I hope the elf decides to end it and blow his worthless brains out. It'd be doing the world a favor, honestly.

Still not banned? Disgusting. This forum is well and truly finished.

 

[Frost_Ace]

SJW shithole. Now, I feel like I'm fairly progressive as far as conservatives go. I support things like gay marriage and equal pay for women, and I think actual racism, sexism, and homophobia is retarded, but this place is full of the worst stereotypes of unhinged lunatic leftists. You can't even take a joke, or (gasp!) Offensive words.

And y'all are fucking hypocrites. Remember when you were so quick to reeeee about JonTron being "like nazi" or the creator of The Last Night being involved in Gamergate. And yet the elf is a legitimate sexual predator, which is far worse than what the other two did, and you defend him. You make me sick.

https://********/v/NeoFAG

That site opened my eyes a lot (I post as PhantomMartyr there) Yeah, there are some extreme opinions I disagree with, but at least you don't get banned for the dangerous crime of wrongthink. Pretty cool place if you ask me.

Edit: I was linking to the Neofag Voat.

back to /v/.

 

[RinsFury]

Voat stalkers/trolls are the lowest form on life online. Every single one is beyond redemptiom.