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Friendly jabs often have truth to them, no offense taken. :)

I just had to express the euphoria of being out of that nightmare, you know? The last 2 years have just been a downward spiral and only once I am free does everything seem to make sense. Kinda funny how it took somebody I had never heard of before insulting me with such vigor to understand exactly what had happened.

Be wary of those who appear to be the most friendly.

Sounds like Leah Remini talking about leaving Scientology.
 
In a new thread about the witcher tv series.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/ciri-in-netflix-witcher-series-probably-wont-be-white.67156/


https://www.resetera.com/threads/ci...s-probably-wont-be-white.67156/#post-12379691


https://www.resetera.com/threads/ci...s-probably-wont-be-white.67156/#post-12379393

I personally find it disturbing that the idea of shows having white casts is now being deemed offensive. Are all big budget TV shows going forward must be diverse? In the future, will there even be shows allowed that have a lot of white people?

I don't hate non-white people by the way. I'm just disturbed that making shows that feature a white cast is slowly being phased out. Imagine if TV shows in Japan were not allowed to have Japanese people. Or if shows in Kenya were not allowed to show native Kenyans.

Yeah I was reading that earlier. They are all happy that Ciri is going to be Non White. There were a few saying it didn't quite make sense. One was banned for some weird false equivalence saying if it was a reversed situation people would be up in arms.
 
Yeah I was reading that earlier. They are all happy that Ciri is going to be Non White. There were a few saying it didn't quite make sense. One was banned for some weird false equivalence saying if it was a reversed situation people would be up in arms.

How is that a "false equivalency"... it is the same damned thing. Brain rot.
 
What's the deets on the Jack Ryan TV controversy.

Whenever a Tom Clancy property is discussed, it always turns into "he's a racist".

How is that a "false equivalency"... it is the same damned thing. Brain rot.

It's not the same because white people are the majority in America. That means racism or prejudice against whites can't exist....or something like that. It defies logic but this might help explain. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110725190044.htm
 
Whenever a Tom Clancy property is discussed, it always turns into "he's a racist".



It's not the same because white people are the majority in America. That means racism or prejudice against whites can't exist....or something like that. It defies logic but this might help explain. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110725190044.htm

But this is a Polish story tho. And white people are not the majority globally tho.

I know you were being sarcastic. These people are so far gone (and fake as fuck). I know they are just peddling like good little mental slaves, all the crypto-Marxist teachings of their Adderall'ed out college "professor" burnouts.
 
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That is ridiculous, I suppose now you just have to take the op at face value and aren't allowed to try to dig deeper before you make up your mind about the subject now.

I guess it's arguing in bad faith to find out if a perpetrator has a history of infractions before deciding how bad their infraction is.
 
Im more shocked people legit aren't aware of the words POP-GAF and PONY-GAF. These have been known communities for years now, for all their fame and in-fame.
 
Im more shocked people legit aren't aware of the words POP-GAF and PONY-GAF. These have been known communities for years now, for all their fame and in-fame.

I was more of a lurker, didn't have a neogaf account, and mostly hang around gaming section. Off Topic back then was so heavily biased the thought of reading that section cause me to vomit. Thank goodness Neogaf imploded last year. OT now in a much better shape now.
 
Im more shocked people legit aren't aware of the words POP-GAF and PONY-GAF. These have been known communities for years now, for all their fame and in-fame.

I remember first discovering Pony Gaf. I was like why are all these grown ass people obsessed with MLP. I mean I have a daughter so I'm subjected to it but I'm not like turning it on because I enjoy it. It's funny but they took it to a whole different level.
 
I remember first discovering Pony Gaf. I was like why are all these grown ass people obsessed with MLP. I mean I have a daughter so I'm subjected to it but I'm not like turning it on because I enjoy it. It's funny but they took it to a whole different level.
I will never understand brony culture. Not in the least.

That MLP animator getting arrested for child porn didn't help any.
 
I remember first discovering Pony Gaf. I was like why are all these grown ass people obsessed with MLP. I mean I have a daughter so I'm subjected to it but I'm not like turning it on because I enjoy it. It's funny but they took it to a whole different level.
I will never understand brony culture. Not in the least.
They've gone pretty quiet in the last years. I guess they got replaced by furries.
 
I remember first discovering Pony Gaf. I was like why are all these grown ass people obsessed with MLP. I mean I have a daughter so I'm subjected to it but I'm not like turning it on because I enjoy it. It's funny but they took it to a whole different level.
Speaking only for myself it was an extremely supportive community based around a show that, while it was obviously juvenile, was at least decently well written for the first season. The fact that a show so clearly based around marketing a product to little kids was genuinely heartwarming with decent humor that wasn't mean spirited meant that many of us who were at a low point in our lives were able to use the positive nature of the show and the community to bring ourselves to a better place in life. Lots of guys have been mocked for liking girly stuff in their life, this was a product that was obviously designed to be vapid crap but turned out shockingly well. The fact that people could embrace the subject and be celebrated for it meant that people could "be themselves" and therefore were more comfortable with each other, and thereby were able to establish friendships.

That... that does not excuse people spamming pony memes in every thread? Just that a community centered on a show about friendship and positivity can seem a panacea to those are having a tough time in life.

They've gone pretty quiet in the last years. I guess they got replaced by furries.
Replaced by furries? HA! Furries predate ponies and will outlive us all.

...

The writing got worse after every season til I stopped following it. By season 3 it was the terrible show everyone assumed it would be from the onset. There's a reason even some of us who adored the damned show abandoned it.
Replaced or mutated into furries?
Strike that, reverse it.
 
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Replaced by furries? HA! Furries predate ponies and will outlive us all.
I know that, I meant in terms of how passionate they are about their hobby. You used to see bronies everywhere, bleeding into other cultures. From imageboards, fanart, forums, even RP. I remember you could just google a character's name and you would see at least one ponified version of that character on the first page.
Furries on the other hand just keeps getting more popular. I guess they, for some reason, are also a bit more accepted by today's PC culture. Bronies were viewed by a lot of people as manbabies or pedos. Furries are okay because you can identify as a wolf and everyone has to accept that. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm mostly just spitballing I guess.
 
Furries on the other hand just keeps getting more popular. I guess they, for some reason, are also a bit more accepted by today's PC culture. Bronies were viewed by a lot of people as manbabies or pedos. Furries are okay because you can identify as a wolf and everyone has to accept that. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm mostly just spitballing I guess.

 
I know that, I meant in terms of how passionate they are about their hobby. You used to see bronies everywhere, bleeding into other cultures. From imageboards, fanart, forums, even RP. I remember you could just google a character's name and you would see at least one ponified version of that character on the first page.
Furries on the other hand just keeps getting more popular. I guess they, for some reason, are also a bit more accepted by today's PC culture. Bronies were viewed by a lot of people as manbabies or pedos. Furries are okay because you can identify as a wolf and everyone has to accept that. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm mostly just spitballing I guess.
I see what you're saying. As somebody at the heart of the pony fandom from near the onset the fervor was... rather extreme. Furries have the whole imagination and acceptance thing going only not linked to a TV show meant for young girls, meaning the support many are looking for isn't directly linked to... those specific implications.

As the post above indicates, that doesn't mean they don't have issues in the community. It's tough to find any group that doesn't. At the same time most of them seem like fun people to hang out with and at a certain point in my life that seems to be a decent thing to prioritize.
 
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Might be ReeEra related.
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It is supposed to be a followup to his vid.

Some people were speculating that Jim did the vid try to rustle RE into deleting a bunch of stuff, which he had already archived to avoid RE doing another Bulbapedo memory-holing, but IDK if that makes sense. The vid did not have much texture to it.

Of course, maybe he got access to their Discord and got something more al dente, with a little Tabasco.
 
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I was more of a lurker, didn't have a neogaf account, and mostly hang around gaming section. Off Topic back then was so heavily biased the thought of reading that section cause me to vomit. Thank goodness Neogaf imploded last year. OT now in a much better shape now.
Its funny how we look at OldGAF these days and only now realise that yes, it was a dangerous place, but compared to ERA, it is much more a cozy home than ERA ever could dream of.

Of OldGAF even. NewGaf is like Amsterdam where anything goes as long as you keep it within limits.

I remember first discovering Pony Gaf. I was like why are all these grown ass people obsessed with MLP. I mean I have a daughter so I'm subjected to it but I'm not like turning it on because I enjoy it. It's funny but they took it to a whole different level.
I won't be hatin on people's fetishes. But it is interesting to see the faces behind the people who like this stuff. It is generalizing, for sure. But hey, MLP obviously explores some generic themes that can be applied to everyday life. Its just wrapped up in a kids show*

*That had a pedo-animator being involved in it, but that aside.
YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A BABY!
YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A GRAVITY!!!

One thread from ERA i have yet to see happen:
''If in space you have positive space and negative space, and space itself is mostly black.. Does that mean that space by definition is racist?'' :lollipop_hushed::pie_thinking:

Ofcourse completely insane and non-sensical but who says this can't be expected? :pie_neutral:
 
The first season of MLP was made by one of the Powerpuff Girls directors/writers. We can all agree that Powerpuff was pretty awesome, right? For that reason MLP has always been in the back of my mind as something I might check out one day.... The community is not doing the show any favours though.
 
The first season of MLP was made by one of the Powerpuff Girls directors/writers. We can all agree that Powerpuff was pretty awesome, right? For that reason MLP has always been in the back of my mind as something I might check out one day.... The community is not doing the show any favours though.
Be sure to stop after that first season if you ever bother, it is amazing how quickly it devolves from something special to exactly what you'd assume it would be from hearing the name.

The community didn't bother me as much when the show was good because it actually made sense. Now that it is straight garbo I can only assume they are there for the support and companionship with others who are less likely to judge them. While I can get the draw, a zero judgment environment is a perfect place for those who wish to take advantage of others to flourish, especially with a fanbase that leans this young. Beyond that... sometimes people should get judged for shit. I don't give a fuck about costumes or whatnot but if you are causing people pain with your actions maybe judgment is ok at some point?
 
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One thread from ERA i have yet to see happen:
''If in space you have positive space and negative space, and space itself is mostly black.. Does that mean that space by definition is racist?''
I had to laugh, wont be long now till the thread appears at the other place, they most likely are reading this thread as we speak.
 
I don't think Stockholm syndrome is applicable here. I have no data that suggests my assessment from the previous posting is wrong. I mean, I sure am not happy about having been banned for what I have done there, but that does not mean I should treat them as complete nutjobs. Understanding motivation is also not the same thing as agreement. I have stated in how far I think their moderation goes too far (in other instances: Not far enough) and how I would have liked it changed, but when we are talking perfectly reasonable bannings, I see no reason to throw the moderation under the bus for that.

As I understand it you're arguing that they are ideologically consistent, but this wasn't the case for me. There was a big thread about Sam Harris/Murray/Vox on era in which I defended Harris extensively. Then in another thread a few weeks later someone made a comment in another thread about Harris being racist and I made a one off post arguing he isn't in the exact same way, got hit with a 1 week ban for racism. I emailed the mods, pointed out I had made this exact argument in much greater depth in another thread with not even a warning. They essentially said too bad, increased my ban length to two weeks at which point I requested a permanent ban. The mod team is clearly shifting more left as time goes on, is less transparent in what their banning policy actually means in regards to what is racist or what is phobic or what gets a warning or what gets a ban, and even doubles down on their mistakes when they are pointed out as they did with me. If you're interested my write up of the whole event is listed earlier in this thread I think, in which I include the email exchange. The eggshells are everywhere and the policy is murky as a swamp.

Edit: You can read about my situation here:
 
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As I understand it you're arguing that they are ideologically consistent, but this wasn't the case for me. There was a big thread about Sam Harris/Murray/Vox on era in which I defended Harris extensively. Then in another thread a few weeks later someone made a comment in another thread about Harris being racist and I made a one off post arguing he isn't in the exact same way, got hit with a 1 week ban for racism. I emailed the mods, pointed out I had made this exact argument in much greater depth in another thread with not even a warning. They essentially said too bad, increased my ban length to two weeks at which point I requested a permanent ban. The mod team is clearly shifting more left as time goes on, is less transparent in what their banning policy actually means in regards to what is racist or what is phobic or what gets a warning or what gets a ban, and even doubles down on their mistakes when they are pointed out as they did with me. If you're interested my write up of the whole event is listed earlier in this thread I think, in which I include the email exchange. The eggshells are everywhere and the policy is murky as a swamp.

They have always been too far-left (gone). There are a few people that had those mods on their ignore list when they were members here as well. They are just more comfortable after the bait and switch period, so they are acting every bit a fool. I laugh even harder at actual industry professionals retaining their admin status over there. Have a spine FFS.
 
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So many bans in that "Ciri will not be white" thread. I don't see why thinking that changing an already existing character for no real reason is a bad opinion.

Here's a perfectly reasonable post, right? https://www.resetera.com/posts/12421181/

I think it's bizzarre that because someone disagrees with a casting choice for an already-existing character they get branded as a "racist" or "white supremacist" - throwing these words around so loosely does nothing but nulify it's meaning when used against, you know, actual racists and white supremacists.

I've already said that I'd generate the exact same response if it were the other way around. There's simply no need to be so hostile.

Nope! Banned and duration pending.
 
I think race changing characters is beyond dumb since it's done to satisfy people who aren't a fan of the source material, but is anyone surprised Netflix is doing this? That's exactly what I would expect from them. You can see the conscious agenda pushing in almost all of their content.
 
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So there was a great video asking for the left to do some self-reflection on why they're losing.
I actually agreed with the guy when he said "how did liberalism go from wanting world peace, to being offended at Halloween costumes?".

The Video gets posted on Resetera and the reaction is typical.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/abc-comedy-the-problem-with-the-left.67485/#post-12438791

Even people with moderate left-wing views (like the OP) are still getting banned. There is no middle ground on that site. You either go full identity politics, or you're a nazi.
 
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So there was a great video asking for the left to do some self-reflection on why they're losing.
I actually agreed with the guy when he said "how did liberalism go from wanting world peace, to being offended at Halloween costumes?".

The Video gets posted on Resetera and the reaction is typical.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/abc-comedy-the-problem-with-the-left.67485/#post-12438791

Even people with moderate left-wing views (like the OP) are still getting banned. There is no middle ground on that site. You either go full identity politics, or you're a nazi.

It's truly telling when a forum can't keep a thread open for more than 2 pages concerning a video by a leftist criticizing the left before locking it. It signals that they aren't there for open conversation, for open criticism, even from allies. The mods are there to fortify and wall off "the left" from all criticism because they identify so damn strongly with it that it has become their primary identity. They view any criticism of the movement as criticism of themselves as a person. This is what happens when a substantial proportion of your mod team views themselves as die hard political activist who gladly adopt the most extreme positions of their party.
 
Sup my dooders!

So I have a question in regards to a lot of the ResetERA talk. Now you have to understand I wasn't around during the big split, had life stuff to do, but in general I don't care about what happened, it's over, whatever. I don't read ResetERA, I don't talk about it, besides this of course. It and the talk around it doesn't interest me.

It seems to me that a lot of members like to bash on whatever is going on over there. It's almost has people are relishing in hearing about these bans and what not.

Maybe I am wrong in thinking this but wouldn't the greatest "stick it to em" would to just be, ignore that shit? Like give zero fucks, don't talk about it, don't post about it, etc, etc....

Like to me if we just let that shit die and focus on doing cool NeoGAF stuff. I mean isn't the greatest revenge success? Should we not just take the high ground and disregard everything ResetERA?



I don't know that is just me, I love NeoGAF and it what is offers me but this grudge towards the others on this site almost just keeps up this pointless "forum-war".
 
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Sup my dooders!

So I have a question in regards to a lot of the ResetERA talk. Now you have to understand I wasn't around during the big split, had life stuff to do, but in general I don't care about what happened, it's over, whatever. I don't read ResetERA, I don't talk about it, besides this of course. It and the talk around it doesn't interest me.

It seems to me that a lot of members like to bash on whatever is going on over there. It's almost has people are relishing in hearing about these bans and what not.

Maybe I am wrong in thinking this but wouldn't the greatest "stick it to em" would to just be, ignore that shit? Like give zero fucks, don't talk about it, don't post about it, etc, etc....

Like to me if we just let that shit die and focus on doing cool NeoGAF stuff. I mean isn't the greatest revenge success? Should we not just take the high ground and disregard everything ResetERA?



I don't know that is just me, I love NeoGAF and it what is offers me but this grudge towards the others on this site almost just keeps up this pointless "forum-war".
Do you look away as a car crash is happening?
 
As I understand it you're arguing that they are ideologically consistent, but this wasn't the case for me. There was a big thread about Sam Harris/Murray/Vox on era in which I defended Harris extensively. Then in another thread a few weeks later someone made a comment in another thread about Harris being racist and I made a one off post arguing he isn't in the exact same way, got hit with a 1 week ban for racism. I emailed the mods, pointed out I had made this exact argument in much greater depth in another thread with not even a warning. They essentially said too bad, increased my ban length to two weeks at which point I requested a permanent ban. The mod team is clearly shifting more left as time goes on, is less transparent in what their banning policy actually means in regards to what is racist or what is phobic or what gets a warning or what gets a ban, and even doubles down on their mistakes when they are pointed out as they did with me. If you're interested my write up of the whole event is listed earlier in this thread I think, in which I include the email exchange. The eggshells are everywhere and the policy is murky as a swamp.

Edit: You can read about my situation here:

While you may be arguing against conservative viewpoints more here, there is relatively no alt-right here. It is important to properly apply that label or it loses meaning. No one here is arguing for white supremacy.
 
No but the "Car crash" is over, now it's just people rubber necking on the highway while the tow truck is winching the wrecked cars.
You bring up a fair point, my sole defense is that the wrecked cars are easier to walk from when they don't contain loved ones that you swear you can help if you just try... but know deeply that you'll just burn with them if you do..

It's better to ignore it, yeah. I've stopped browsing the site on a day to day basis, though it brings some small solace to know that all the insanity that I had perceived was not a product of my imagination.
 
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