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michaelius said:
Looks like another gem
https://www.resetera.com/threads/when-a-close-friend-shows-signs-of-nazism.77966/

check the number of people telling author to drop his friend because of what looks like normal conservative stance.

Meanwhile two of my best friends have completly diffrent political opinions then I do and we keep together since primary school (I was their best man at their weddings :D )
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I don't know about this one.

I'd say the thread title is absolutely over the top however if the guy is going around making racist and homophobic jokes I would probably dump him as a friend as well. He's asking for the opinion of other people and they are willingly giving it.

I would hope some of this stuff is not normal conservative values because you would be kind of proving Resetera's point that all conservatives are trash.
 
Nobody_Important said:
Do you guys only go into the really divisive threads or do you read the more casual threads and Hangouts?


Because people disagree all the time on a variety of things and don't get banned or warned. You guys are only focusing on the divisive and sensitive topics where people get in trouble and then pretend that's representative of the entire site.


And it's not. No matter how hard to try to pretend that it is.
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I usually just read the political stuff when I read over there. I also saw how they operated over here too. I'm sure they disagree on things outside of politics, but politically speaking they are horrified of opposing views. It's literally an evil to them.
 
Nobody_Important said:
Do you guys only go into the really divisive threads or do you read the more casual threads and Hangouts?


Because people disagree all the time on a variety of things and don't get banned or warned. You guys are only focusing on the divisive and sensitive topics where people get in trouble and then pretend that's representative of the entire site.


And it's not. No matter how hard to try to pretend that it is.
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I typically just look through the political threads since I find those topics most interesting for debate. That's where all the crazy bans are. The reason I left the forum is due to the hostility and calls for violence against Republicans. I don't visit too often anymore. All those threads have been the same for awhile now since debate never existed and only one viewpoint is allowed.

I agree if it is not about political or social issues the place isn't too bad. Sometimes politics leak into other gaming threads though.
 
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Yoshi said:
What have you done?
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You should be able to see through my tweets/replies what I replied to him with. Basically stated that I used to look up to him, but his recent actions and needless hostility is disappointing to see.

fantomena said:
What is far-left?
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Far-left politics are political views located further on the left of the left-right spectrum than the standard political left.
The term has been used to describe ideologies such as: communism, anarcho-communism, left-communism, anarcho-syndicalism, Marxism–Leninism, Trotskyism, and Maoism.

Everyone they don't like is literally Hitler, or supports Hitler, or agrees with Hitler. They are pro-violence for anything they disagree with and believe ruining others lives over something as minor as thoughts on abortion are a-okay. This mindset is prevalent throughout ResetEra, Waypoint, Polygon, Kotaku, and other major gaming journalistic sites. They share similarities with the alt-right, but on the opposite end of the spectrum.


Cunth said:
The post above got me curious and I had a look at Sessler's twitter posts. He is full on drinking that kool aid.

Edit: And Danny O'Dwyer is tweeting that he doesn't feel safe as an immigrant in the US :messenger_tears_of_joy:

These guys are a few cards short of a full deck
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Danny has always been a vitriolic person. This really came out the last few years and one of the many reasons I will continue to refuse to watch NoClip documentaries. I have no interest in giving that man money or views. I always had more respect with Adam Sessler, though I have never really followed him through his transition between Rev3Games and where he currently is. Seems like he has fallen deep into the rabbit hole of the far-left.

Apparently he has recently lost his mother and had back surgery. Not sure if this played a role in his caustic attitude, but I still have fond memories of his past actions. I really hope he becomes less hateful over time.
 
Claus Grimhildyr said:
Far-left politics are political views located further on the left of the left-right spectrum than the standard political left.
The term has been used to describe ideologies such as: communism, anarcho-communism, left-communism, anarcho-syndicalism, Marxism–Leninism, Trotskyism, and Maoism.

Everyone they don't like is literally Hitler, or supports Hitler, or agrees with Hitler. They are pro-violence for anything they disagree with and believe ruining others lives over something as minor as thoughts on abortion are a-okay. This mindset is prevalent throughout ResetEra, Waypoint, Polygon, Kotaku, and other major gaming journalistic sites. They share similarities with the alt-right, but on the opposite end of the spectrum.
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The second is not a defining quality of being far left. I am an adherent of democratic socialism, which would certainly qualify as far left (though not as far as communism)*, but a neoliberal or conservative does not support Hitler, is Hitler, or agrees (on most points) with Hitler. I am also in no way pro violence. I am, on the contrary, a pacifist and am supportive of absolute gun control (no private person may wield a gun).

*According to the Wikipedia definition I would still fall within the standard left, but in the terms commonly used in US-centric forums I would qualify as far left. Certainly left of Sanders and people were complaining about his extremely left-leaning positions.
 
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Yoshi said:
The second is not a defining quality of being far left. I am an adherent of democratic socialism, which would certainly qualify as far left (though not as far as communism)*, but a neoliberal or conservative does not support Hitler, is Hitler, or agrees (on most points) with Hitler. I am also in no way pro violence. I am, on the contrary, a pacifist and am supportive of absolute gun control (no private person may wield a gun).

*According to the Wikipedia definition I would still fall within the standard left, but in the terms commonly used in US-centric forums I would qualify as far left. Certainly left of Sanders and people were complaining about his extremely left-leaning positions.
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You don't sound very far left to me.
 
tkscz said:
You don't sound very far left to me.
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I would have had a very hard time voting for Clinton because of her neoliberal fiscal policies and entanglement with big corporations. She'd be better than Trump, but that's hardly an achievement. The "far left" people from NeoGAF of old or now Resetera were outright celebrating Clinton's candidacy and the bashing of actually left-leaning politicians such as Sanders and Corbyn was through the roof as well. If these people (the people celebrating Clinton and bashing Sanders / Corbyn) are seen as far left, I would probably count as an extremist.
 
Far left is based on the need of progressing on everything without thinking if something needs progression or not.
Its the change for the sake of change.

And it's promoted by people who have the single neurone to not just shit theirselves.

This is my take on it.
 
Yoshi said:
I would have had a very hard time voting for Clinton because of her neoliberal fiscal policies and entanglement with big corporations. She'd be better than Trump, but that's hardly an achievement. The "far left" people from NeoGAF of old or now Resetera were outright celebrating Clinton's candidacy and the bashing of actually left-leaning politicians such as Sanders and Corbyn was through the roof as well. If these people (the people celebrating Clinton and bashing Sanders / Corbyn) are seen as far left, I would probably count as an extremist.
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I was happy with Clinton but the tribalism within the democratic voter base was damn well toxic.
 
Yoshi said:
I would have had a very hard time voting for Clinton because of her neoliberal fiscal policies and entanglement with big corporations. She'd be better than Trump, but that's hardly an achievement. The "far left" people from NeoGAF of old or now Resetera were outright celebrating Clinton's candidacy and the bashing of actually left-leaning politicians such as Sanders and Corbyn was through the roof as well. If these people (the people celebrating Clinton and bashing Sanders / Corbyn) are seen as far left, I would probably count as an extremist.
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For me, the far left are the extremist. Anything less I wouldn't consider far. Maybe semi-far. Half way to far.
 
Another anti-white thread on Resetera. They're not even hiding it anymore.

Don Lemon: 'White men' are biggest terror threat to US, and there is no travel ban on them
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do...-us-and-there-is-no-travel-ban-on-them.78191/


Anyone courageous enough to post some real facts on "terror" without being called a Nazi?

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And before anyone gets this twisted, I'm pointing out Reset's hypocrisy about wanting to ban white people. I'm not advocating for any actual race based ban.
 
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Welp, GTA San Andreas and MTV in the 90s/00s showed me that all black people are gangsters and double crossing gangbangers. I takie it for granted since then.
 
yeah that white people terrorism thing, gonna need to see his math on that. he says "facts don't lie" but there are no numbers. each incident would be 1 out of 200 million.
 
#Phonepunk# said:
yeah that white people terrorism thing, gonna need to see his math on that. he says "facts don't lie" but there are no numbers. each incident would be 1 out of 200 million.
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From the REEEEEE thread:

People in here comparing body counts when the white patriarchy's hegemony is responsible for the disenfranchisement and impoverishment of millions of minorities. White men don't have to be pulling triggers to kill.
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They're counting much more than just deaths directly by white hands.
 
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Look at these quotes! Whites are dangerous!

White men are the ones who tend to go "hm, time to shoot up:

Has there been any shootings by nonwhite men or any women?
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He is not wrong.
White supremacists are a bigger menace than basically everything else inside the US.
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We're going to see an outstanding display of white fragility in response to this.
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No lies detected.
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Yes. But most of the time it's white men doing or attempting mass murder.
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Statistically, he's not wrong.
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Damn he really said that? That's amazing, racists are gonna go after him hard though, but I guess they are already sending bombs to CNN so the cat is already out of the bag
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I mean, he's not wrong. Sure, maybe white men as a whole is a little broad, but from what I can see, they're causing the most harm.

Imagine if a bunch of black guys rolled into Charlottesville with tiki torches & khakis. "Both sides" wouldn't be to blame in that situation.
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considering most of the mass shootings are from white men, he's not wrong. That's not even getting into right wing extremism.
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To paraphrase Granddad, never tell white people the truth before an election.
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Not by minority recently, but white women are doing their part by trying to get blacks killed through the police though.
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He's right
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If someone made a thread on Resetera that replaced "white" with another race, they would have their skin ripped right off their bones. But a whole thread bashing and calling white people terrorists? That's ok.
 
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We're going to see an outstanding display of white fragility in response to this.
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lol this is some classic gaslighting at this point. you call someone fragile and then any response to it is immediately evidence that they are fragile. it doesn't even matter if "fragile" is an objectively shitty state to be in that nobody would want to be called. win-win!
 
5 White guys kill like 100 people in 2 years..TERRORIST!!

200 Black guys in Chicago's kill 250 people in a weekend.
"White patriarchy's hegemony is responsible for the disenfranchisement and impoverishment of millions of minorities. White men don't have to be pulling triggers to kill."

Get fucked with that shit Don Lemon.
 
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Black men have a higher chance of being killed by other black men the at the hands of..

Cops
White people
Etc..

I'd rather get a flat tire in Po-Dunk Arkansas as a white, black, Asian, or Hispanic then get a flat tire in ANY major cities black dominated area no matter WHAT color I was.

Put me in the dirtiest fucking white bread trailer park and I'll feel safe.
I wouldnt even want to get a flat as a black dude from out of town in certain places with my own people.

Look at these poor white bastards and tell me 'White people are the problem we need to be ranting about?!
 
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zenspider said:
I just got a 3 day ban for arguing that all Republicans are not evil, so, aside from a really encouraging PM, yeah - that's the level of discourse there.
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I would say "evil" is far too strong a word, but to me if you support Republicans you are at the very least not a good person in my opinion. You didn't deserve a ban though if thats all you said. I would need to see the original post though to be sure. Some of the mods are way too harsh and since there is no set guidelines on punishments it all comes down to which mod gets your report.


Some won't even bother with a warning and others with hand out bans for the same kind of post. Some are strict and some are lenient. Some have a sense of humor and others don't. Its one of the many issues the site has in terms of moderation. Its why some of us pushed for more specific guidelines on punishments so there could be more consistency across the board rather than leave it up to each individual mod to decide. In fact thats actually why you see "duration pending" so often now. In those cases its decided by one of the mod captains or by a group of mods what punishment is handed down rather than just whatever mod responds to the report deciding. Its an attempt at more consistent moderation.
 
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Redneckerz said:
I mean, if you go on the record stating you failed at everything at life but you have 15k posts.. it means you both won at something, and failed that aswell. That was the chuckle really. It really isn't anymore elaborate than that.


Barring the more sensitive matters, but its a public secret that ERA is hosting some truly bleak stuff and some really depressed and ffed up people - People who on the other end of the spectrum hate everything and everyone regarding Trump. There are 2 names that instantly pop up in my mind regarding this.

There is nothing to laugh at with that and i have written before that these Little Helpers deserve the sympathy, but i don't want to turn a blind eye and forfeit that on the other end of the spectrum, they say terrible vile stuff. It is bothersome, because all that hate speech that is spent, could have and should have been used to help these people out. And whilst ERA has a few threads, i geniunely feel that in general, ERA isn't really helping their people out - Save for the Tidal thread which, unsurprisingly, was featured in their 1 year anniversary newsletter.


If its anything like Sonderkommando Auschwitz than that is a heavy pilled book to go through.

The pick above is also one i can highly recommended if one is interested hearing from the bee's knees what the Sonderkommando, the cleaning unit of prisoners in Auschwitz after the gassing had to endure. Amazingly, some survived, and then there is this story.

I can imagine your book is of similar bleakness. Knowing a bit about Russian history and Gulags, its vile shit.
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I understood the joke, but i think were just talking in circles about this now.

About the bolded it depends on the thread really, i saw some threads with good advice for depressed/worried people but i also saw horrible advices there, it depends really.

But one place in particular in that i think truly help their members to the best of their capabilities is the OT for Mental Health, i saw plenty of good advice and positive posts, always encouraging those who are down to search for medical help, among other things.



redHelios said:
From what he described they sound like a bunch of /r/atheism kids.
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Yes, the forum claim it everyone should be respected, but it is completely fine to mock Christianity and christians there, its truly disgusting.

Nobody_Important said:
Do you guys only go into the really divisive threads or do you read the more casual threads and Hangouts?


Because people disagree all the time on a variety of things and don't get banned or warned. You guys are only focusing on the divisive and sensitive topics where people get in trouble and then pretend that's representative of the entire site.


And it's not. No matter how hard to try to pretend that it is.
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I partly disagree with you, in gaming side i never saw unfair bans for disagreements about games in general, in fact i think they do a good job of moderating console wars and such.

But as soon as you enter any remotely political thread there, even on the gaming part, if you disagree with the majority you will get banned, and no one is pretending this. See Threads about Valkyria Chronicles 4, Cyperpunk, Kingdom Come Deliverance, among others.

Tell me if you dont find even one unfair ban on these threads.

I wont even bother with off topic because you know any thread there is a minefield.
 
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Nobody_Important said:
I would say "evil" is far too strong a word, but to me if you support Republicans you are at the very least not a good person in my opinion. You didn't deserve a ban though if thats all you said. I would need to see the original post though to be sure. Some of the mods are way too harsh and since there is no set guidelines on punishments it all comes down to which mod gets your report.


Some won't even bother with a warning and others with hand out bans for the same kind of post. Some are strict and some are lenient. Some have a sense of humor and others don't. Its one of the many issues the site has in terms of moderation. Its why some of us pushed for more specific guidelines on punishments so there could be more consistency across the board rather than leave it up to each individual mod to decide. In fact thats actually why you see "duration pending" so often now. In those cases its decided by one of the mod captains or by a group of mods what punishment is handed down rather than just whatever mod responds to the report deciding. Its an attempt at more consistent moderation.
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Here's the jist of it, but you'll have to go upstream for all the posts. And here's the one that earned the ban.
 
Nobody_Important said:
I would say "evil" is far too strong a word, but to me if you support Republicans you are at the very least not a good person in my opinion.
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What is wrong with you? Just called 60+ million people not good people because they view politics a different way? Like, how exactly can you have such a self-centered attitude. That is like narcissism.
 
Nobody_Important said:
I would say "evil" is far too strong a word, but to me if you support Republicans you are at the very least not a good person in my opinion.
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Really? That is disappointing coming from you. Despite our disagreements on things, I always try to give you the benefit of the doubt and thought you were better than this. I always thought you at the very least, despite our differences in opinion, could sit down and have a beer, agree to disagree (and agree on some things too) and share some snarky laughs together and actually be friends were we ever to meet outside of a message board. You are better than this. Take off those partisan blindfolds.
 
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Cybrwzrd said:
Really? That is disappointing coming from you. Despite our disagreements on things, I always try to you the benefit of the doubt and thought you were better than this. I always thought you at the very least, despite our differences in opinion, could sit down and have a beer, agree to disagree (and agree on some things too) and share some snarky laughs together and actually be friends were we ever to meet outside of a message board. You are better than this. Take off those partisan blindfolds.
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He said "generally"

I can't drink, but I'd drive you and Nobody_Important Nobody_Important to a bar. Better have pizza by the slice.
 
pimentel1 said:
He said "generally"

I can't drink, but I'd drive you and Nobody_Important Nobody_Important to a bar. Better have pizza by the slice.
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Where did he say generally? Even if so that means for the most part.

I am a Democrat by the way. Republicans for the most part are good people. Democrats for the most part are good people. There are extremists on both sides we need to watch with critical eyes, but the general electorate are good people looking out for what they think is best.
 
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You're a Democrat who wants to Trump to win? Or just believe Democrats are doing a crap job and need to change before they tank everything?
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I would like the Democrats to change - embrace progressive populism instead of regressive globalism. I am a big fan of people like Thom Hartmann and Jim Hightower. People who are progressive, but not in the current usage of the word maybe.

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No, no. Not a strawman. I thought this whole time I was speaking to a Republican. Fooled me with the Texas and Burt Reynolds thing. Wait, are you a Democrat just for Halloween?
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You have been around long enough to know where I stand on things.
 
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