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Another race baiting thread on Resetera.

"Black Era Do you think its possible white people will take over Rap like Rock and Roll?"
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bl...-will-take-over-rap-like-rock-and-roll.78288/

And if you don't believe the user has an agenda, this is the same guy who said he doesn't trust white people.

Let's be honest, rap music is always about who's the 'realest' criminal.
While Emenem or the Beaties may capture that silly vibe we pick the who's the real criminal, drug dealer, drug dealer...

We will not ever see a white dude rap and try to give off the criminal image like we do black dudes.
 
Do you think Trump should be impeached if Democrats regain the House and Senate?

Should be impeached? Show me a legitimate case for impeachment and I will wholeheartedly support it. I do not think it is wise to push for impeachment if there is no legal standing to do so. Pushing for impeachment without it would undermine the legitimacy of the electoral college.

Rich urban areas and populous states should not dominate our government. Our system is set up as such to protect us from that.
 
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Really? That is disappointing coming from you. Despite our disagreements on things, I always try to give you the benefit of the doubt and thought you were better than this. I always thought you at the very least, despite our differences in opinion, could sit down and have a beer, agree to disagree (and agree on some things too) and share some snarky laughs together and actually be friends were we ever to meet outside of a message board. You are better than this. Take off those partisan blindfolds.

I admire your optimism, but I put him in the "lost cause" basket a long time ago. He has no desire for truth; only information that confirms his existing biases. Imagine a world full of @Nobody_Importants.
 
Could be worse. Could be a world full of gun violence and bombings. Hondurans seeking refuge seen as the enemy. Wait, that's reality. And the first 3 pages of 2028.

Gun violence and bombings come from people who see themselves as morally virtuous without any doubt that they could be wrong. Who does that sound like to you?
 
:goog_unsure: indeed. Seems like rambling or under the influence, perhaps.

I admire your optimism, but I put him in the "lost cause" basket a long time ago. He has no desire for truth; only information that confirms his existing biases. Imagine a world full of @Nobody_Importants.
That seems needlessly dismissive, at the very least Important is attempting a discussion.

True lost causes just rally their bulletpoints to infinity with racial accuracy.
 
Yes, the forum claim it everyone should be respected, but it is completely fine to mock Christianity and christians there, its truly disgusting.
No it's not. I have been banned for a snarky remark on religiousness.
 
Really? That is disappointing coming from you. Despite our disagreements on things, I always try to give you the benefit of the doubt and thought you were better than this. I always thought you at the very least, despite our differences in opinion, could sit down and have a beer, agree to disagree (and agree on some things too) and share some snarky laughs together and actually be friends were we ever to meet outside of a message board. You are better than this. Take off those partisan blindfolds.
We can agree to disagree, find common ground on some issues etc etc but when someone supports the kind of things that the Republicans do I just can't ignore that. Especially the things that cause direct harm to others. That's not me being partisan. That's me seeing that people are being harmed or are doing their best to make sure others are harmed and seeing some people that are 100% okay with that because it's their political party. And that's just not okay. I don't care which side you are on. I would think anyone who supported such things is a bad person. Because generally good people don't want to hurt others. That's not a sign of a good person in my opinion.


Now there is some wiggle room obviously. If you support the GOP but do not support their harmful policies then you would not fall under that category in my opinion. I'm mainly referring to the Republican zealots who support all of the worse of what the Republican party has to offer.
 
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:goog_unsure: indeed. Seems like rambling or under the influence, perhaps.


That seems needlessly dismissive, at the very least Important is attempting a discussion.

True lost causes just rally their bulletpoints to infinity with racial accuracy.

If this was 6 months ago, you may have a point. With this much water under the bridge, you're kidding yourself.
 
Hint. Nobody Important will agree with ResetERA no matter what.

But, then again, he already threw all his cards on the table when he said anyone who doesn't vote the way he likes is not a good person.

He just recites the usual talking points and then selectively replies to stuff/ignores people because he normally can't explain himself beyond regurgitating a talking point.
 
He just recites the usual talking points and then selectively replies to stuff/ignores people because he normally can't explain himself beyond regurgitating a talking point.

Excuse me? I literally JUST said they blatantly overstepped just a little bit ago and yesterday I pointed out they have moderation problems regarding consistency.


I swear you people don't even bother reading my posts before you open your mouths to complain.
 
Excuse me? I literally JUST said they blatantly overstepped just a little bit ago and yesterday I pointed out they have moderation problems regarding consistency.


I swear you people don't even bother reading my posts before you open your mouths to complain.

I'm talking about your posting style throughout the forum, not just this last post.
 
I would say "evil" is far too strong a word, but to me if you support Republicans you are at the very least not a good person in my opinion.

Horse shit. Just a reminder, I'm a Labour voter. In the US that would make me a commie. My best man at my wedding is a UKIP supporter. That's the furthest right political party. (He also happens to be Asian by the way). He's one of the nicest people I know, a thoroughly decent human being - I should fucking hate him as he's a banker with a shitload of money living in London, everything I should hate as a leftie, but I don't. A person's political leanings do not fucking make them a bad person. End this shit.
 
We can agree to disagree, find common ground on some issues etc etc but when someone supports the kind of things that the Republicans do I just can't ignore that. Especially the things that cause direct harm to others.

You are backtracking your statement. You first said "if you support Republicans you are at the very least not a good person". Now you are saying only those who wish direct harm on others.

What harm do Republicans wish on others?
 
Horse shit. Just a reminder, I'm a Labour voter. In the US that would make me a commie. My best man at my wedding is a UKIP supporter. That's the furthest right political party. (He also happens to be Asian by the way). He's one of the nicest people I know, a thoroughly decent human being - I should fucking hate him as he's a banker with a shitload of money living in London, everything I should hate as a leftie, but I don't. A person's political leanings do not fucking make them a bad person. End this shit.

If you support separating families at the border and putting kids in glorified cages, stripping people of their medical insurance, stripping reproductive rights from women, limiting the rights of the LGBTQ community and any of the other harmful policies of the Republican party then to me thats not something a good person does. Good people usually don;t want to do harm to others or make sure that others suffer.


But as I said if you support them, but don't support those specific policies then you don't fall into that category in my opinion.

You are backtracking your statement. You first said "if you support Republicans you are at the very least not a good person". Now you are saying only those who wish direct harm on others.

What harm do Republicans wish on others?

See above. And I'm not backtracking. I'm just doing some clarification on a very broad statement that I made. My beliefs on the subject take more than a single sentence to explain. That wasn't even the point of my original post. Thats why I didn't go into much detail. But now since everyone wants to focus on that instead of the rest I feel I need to be more specific.


Thats all I'm gonna say about it here though. I didn't mean to derail the thread this much. My PM box is open though if anyone wishes to continue.
 
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I would like the Democrats to change - embrace progressive populism instead of regressive globalism. I am a big fan of people like Thom Hartmann and Jim Hightower. People who are progressive, but not in the current usage of the word maybe.

I'd not heard of those guys before but it seems Thom Hartmann is pretty damn close to my political views. Good find.
 
Thats all I'm gonna say about it here though. I didn't mean to derail the thread this much. My PM box is open if anyone wishes to continue.

You have taken it upon yourself to be a public figure representing Resetera on NeoGAF. Even alluding to having some sort of pull over there in this thread to get people unbanned. I think we can continue this as a public discussion.

I agree with the necessity to do the first one. I have no problem keeping children and adults in different holding facilities until their asylum is approved or they are deported.

As for the ACA... had Democrats not pushed such a shit corporatist bill there wouldn't be a need for this fight. At this point I almost want to believe it was intentional. The Democrats have no problem stripping people of their wages that they could have been used to pay for healthcare by supporting inflated insurance premiums because of the preexisting conditions clause. I guess when it becomes too expensive to have care, that doesn't count as stripping people of healthcare though.

And finally I understand that many are coming from their convictions and deeply held religious beliefs on the last two things you mention. Social change comes slowly. Democrats as a party only really flipped on gay marriage 6 years ago.

At most you are virtue signaling by claiming the other side is "not good". All are complex issues that can't just be hand waved away as being harmful to people.
 
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You have taken it upon yourself to be a public figure representing Resetera on NeoGAF. Even alluding to having some sort of pull over there in this thread to get people unbanned.
What? I must have missed something significant here. The closest thing to that that I have read was a request to specify moderation rules.
Yet comments like "OMFG" and "JFC" and the like are rampart in there, and also where in here, still some are, but reduced.
Uhm, "oh my fucking god" and "jesus fucking christ"? Why the hell would that be forbidden? Now that would be one god-awful hellhole. By the venom spewing prophets, if this was forbidden at Resetera I would thank the all-mighty genocidal cloud-man for my perm!
 
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On the religious thing - I was previously pretty woke - abortion is a woman's right, religion is for idiots, full-blooded atheist who thinks God is a way of controlling the people. I'm still an atheist and still view religion as an excellent tool for controlling a population but I have come to understand a bit more where Christians (and others) are coming from in their social conservatism. Ultimately, if you honestly believe that X will get you sent to hell, you're going to want to help people out of that situation. It may or may not be right but it's their view. Similarly, they will have a view on homosexuality, transexuality, etc which is likely equivalent to how the rest of us might view paedophilia for instance. I'm pretty sure most of us would be pretty annoyed at having to bake a cake saying "fucking kids is fun" or whatever else. We need to find a balance between the needs of the gay/trans communities, women's rights and religious freedom, which imo mostly starts at live and let live. I try not to ram my views on these subjects down people's throats these days, and I'm the better for it.
 
Uhm, "oh my fucking god" and "jesus fucking christ"? Why the hell would that be forbidden? Now that would be one god-awful hellhole. By the venom spewing prophets, if this was forbidden at Resetera I would thank the all-mighty genocidal cloud-man for my perm!

Liberals: Jesus Christ is the ONLY brown person you are allowed to make fun of!

And you guys wonder why people call you out in your hypocrisy and why you continue to lose elections, and will continue to do so.
 
You are backtracking your statement. You first said "if you support Republicans you are at the very least not a good person". Now you are saying only those who wish direct harm on others.

What harm do Republicans wish on others?
You have taken it upon yourself to be a public figure representing Resetera on NeoGAF. Even alluding to having some sort of pull over there in this thread to get people unbanned. I think we can continue this as a public discussion.

I agree with the necessity to do the first one. I have no problem keeping children and adults in different holding facilities until their asylum is approved or they are deported.

As for the ACA... had Democrats not pushed such a shit corporatist bill there wouldn't be a need for this fight. At this point I almost want to believe it was intentional. The Democrats have no problem stripping people of their wages that they could have been used to pay for healthcare by supporting inflated insurance premiums because of the preexisting conditions clause. I guess when it becomes too expensive to have care, that doesn't count as stripping people of healthcare though.

And finally I understand that many are coming from their convictions and deeply held religious beliefs on the last two things you mention. Social change comes slowly. Democrats as a party only really flipped on gay marriage 6 years ago.

At most you are virtue signaling by claiming the other side is "not good". All are complex issues that can't just be hand waved away as being harmful to people.
Okay that's alot so I'll go point by point.

1. I am merely on friendly terms with a few of the mods so I decided to try and PM one of them to see of I could get any specific details on the ban. That's all I was saying. I didn't realize that was a problem. I'll drop that then.

2. It's not necessary to separate families or lock children up in chain link cages like animals. The only reason this should be a thing to do at all is in extreme circumstances where the child is in danger or sick. Otherwise families should be kept together. Treating them like animals is barbaric and it's inhumane.

3. And I agree that it was a less than great plan, but it's all we have now. If the GOP wishes to repeal the ACA and replace it with something better then I will support that 100%. But it has to be a plan that will ensure that NOBODY loses their current coverage. Nobody deserves to have their healthcare stripped away. The ACA literally saved lives. That should be seen as a good thing. Not something to be thrown into the trash. If it's a problem then fix it. Don't say it's broken and then set it on fire as if that's going to be any better.

4. And that's fine. People are entitled to their religious beliefs. They can disagree and not like it all they want. What they can't do is use their religion as a weapon and force everyone else to follow it. They don't get to directly affect the li es of others due to THEIR religious beliefs. Laws should not be made as a result of religion.
 
Liberals: Jesus Christ is the ONLY brown person you are allowed to make fun of!

And you guys wonder why people call you out in your hypocrisy and why you continue to lose elections, and will continue to do so.
Leftist Yoshi: You can make fun of whatever the hell you want to (But a restriction on making fun on superstitions is extra awful).
 
If you actually read my other posts I have already explained the comment.

Sorry, I am not the GOP. I am a Republican. Speak to me personally. I'll quote you again.....

I would say "evil" is far too strong a word, but to me if you support Republicans you are at the very least not a good person in my opinion.

I am an individual and not a hive collective known as the GOP. In what ways am I "not a good person"? You made this personal so you need to answer for yourself.
 
Sorry, I am not the GOP. I am a Republican. Speak to me personally. I'll quote you again.....

I would say "evil" is far too strong a word, but to me if you support Republicans you are at the very least not a good person in my opinion.

I am an individual and not a hive collective known as the GOP. In what ways am I "not a good person"? You made this personal so you need to answer for yourself.
I have already answered for myself. I'm not repeating myself again just to humor you. The answers are above if you want them.
 
Since you made it personal, and are willing to call me something just short of evil, I'll give you a rejoinder; You are a liar and a coward.
Well you are certainly entitled to that opinion. Though not sure how I am either seeing as i already answered the questions you asked above, but for some strange reason you are pretending I didn't.


But okay.
 
Well you are certainly entitled to that opinion. Though not sure how I am either seeing as i already answered the questions you asked above, but for some strange reason you are pretending I didn't.


But okay.

You made up a bunch of lies, say I am not a good person, and go on your merry way. Mr. "I didn't say that". What do you say? You can't justify calling me names, so you dismiss me outright. You worm.
 
You made up a bunch of lies, say I am not a good person, and go on your merry way. Mr. "I didn't say that". What do you say? You can't justify calling me names, so you dismiss me outright. You worm.
Those aren't lies. Those are actual Republican policies and platforms. And I am saying that if you support them then in my own personal opinion you are a bad person. That doesn't make it a fact. It's an opinion. And I also said that if support the Republicans but DONT support such policies then you don't fall into that category. I merely disagree with your politics at that point.


So I will say it once again. I have already said all of this above and you know it because I know you possess the ability to read. You are just trolling for dramatic efffect at this point. I'm not wasting anymore time explaining it.
 
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Well you are certainly entitled to that opinion. Though not sure how I am either seeing as i already answered the questions you asked above, but for some strange reason you are pretending I didn't.


But okay.

Your "answers" are nothing more than disingenuous generalizations over half a country. The fact that you honestly believe that the majority of republicans are okay with this:

If you support separating families at the border and putting kids in glorified cages, stripping people of their medical insurance, stripping reproductive rights from women, limiting the rights of the LGBTQ community and any of the other harmful policies of the Republican party then to me thats not something a good person does. Good people usually don;t want to do harm to others or make sure that others suffer.

...already shows you never had any intent of having a genuine discussion, but want to push your own heavily biased, ignorant, and downright pathetic views on millions. Maybe you actually believe the garbage you spew, but if that is truly the case - I hope you get your head removed from the confines of your ass and see the country for what it really is.
 
Your "answers" are nothing more than disingenuous generalizations over half a country. The fact that you honestly believe that the majority of republicans are okay with this:



...already shows you never had any intent of having a genuine discussion, but want to push your own heavily biased, ignorant, and downright pathetic views on millions. Maybe you actually believe the garbage you spew, but if that is truly the case - I hope you get your head removed from the confines of your ass and see the country for what it really is.
Last time I checked Republicans and their base both supported the things I listed.

Repeal of the ACA, family separations, limiting the rights of transgender individuals, etc etc. I didn't just pull that shit from my ass. Those are established policies and talking points that has been supported by the Republican base. I have seen it all blasted over social media and news organizations for two years now so I know I didn't just pull that shit from my ass.

Now if you wanna argue that those policies are not as popular among Republicans as I am claiming then I am certainly willing to listen to that argument. But don't insult my intelligence by trying to tell me those are things I just made up for the hell of it.
 
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Tbh ACA is terrible. I believe in universal healthcare (see the NHS in the UK) and ACA really isn't that (I too was under that misconception until I did some research). It's a horrible compromise that helps the insurance companies, but doesn't do much for the average person.

Family separation is inhumane but if I recall correctly wasn't it also happening under Obama? Not right either way of course. Re transgender rights, what precisely are they trying to take away?
 
Can that Nobody_Important side talk be slightly less aggressive? I don't like the terminology used by him as much as anyone else here either, but we have staff for dealing with this stuff, you know. :)

I understood the joke, but i think were just talking in circles about this now.

About the bolded it depends on the thread really, i saw some threads with good advice for depressed/worried people but i also saw horrible advices there, it depends really.
It does. But the proper advice usually is found in the thread you mentioned. There are some geniunely disturbed souls haunting on ERA and i feel that them posting their threads and getting terrible advice is something the staff should be adamant at.

But they are far too busy warning people for percieved sexism and banning folks for percieved transphobia. The priorities are jacked: Instead of Projecting they should be Reeeeflecting. (Couldn't resist that one.)

If this was 6 months ago, you may have a point. With this much water under the bridge, you're kidding yourself.
I saw the post where Nobody called every Republican not a good person, which is way too generic really and if anything, such statements should deserve emphasis.

That being said, since i am aware that you frequently cite his works, i think at this point it would be better to report any post that you find truly problematic or too generic. Even though N_I is holding ulterior views contrary to a lot of people here (And seemingly isn't improving upon the quality of the points he makes, see the republican comment), at the very least there is still an attempt at discussion here. Even when said attempt usually lands into the same conclusion, i reckon.

That was what i was referring to. Because on the other end of the stick you would have people just spouting bile and not returning the call. N_I is not such an user, although i absolutely disagree with the commentary he has made on various points recently, and not just limited to politics.

Okay that's alot so I'll go point by point.

1. I am merely on friendly terms with a few of the mods so I decided to try and PM one of them to see of I could get any specific details on the ban. That's all I was saying. I didn't realize that was a problem. I'll drop that then.
You should invite them here and get some AMA talks on. Do note that because of this affiliation, people will (and have said so) think more that your opinions are influenced by their policies, even when that may or may not be the case.

Also, you should definitely get those specifics, please. :)
 
Here's the jist of it, but you'll have to go upstream for all the posts. And here's the one that earned the ban.
Ah, you replied to Mercury. One of the Elite Little Helpers that ban-baits people. The Banbot should highlight this in reply-actions: Users who reply to this user/this post are more likely to get banned themselves.

Mercury is one of those folks. Its hardly a surprise considering the constant open solliciting to the staff, but if you were unsure why you actually got banned instead of the red message that you had now... there you go.

Sucked to see you get banned there though.
 
Hypocrites celebrating Canada's increasing immigration targets
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cb...igration-admissions-to-350-000-by-2021.78300/

This post in particular is very agitating

Fine with me. We need to get comfortable with immigration as we move deeper into the global climate crisis. We're a stable, fair democracy with tonnes of room with a fair climate, who wouldn't want to be here?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cb...to-350-000-by-2021.78300/page-3#post-14474025

Someone needs to start redpilling the left how do they plan on ending climate change when they want to bring every person from Africa and Asia to Canada, who will continue to stress our infrastructure, while at the same time, they also continue to push for more carbon taxes.

It's a future where many Canadians are going to be taxed to death and I don't want that.
 
Family separation is inhumane but if I recall correctly wasn't it also happening under Obama? Not right either way of course.

We need a term for this sequence of events:

1. Media finds something bad the US government has done for decades.
2. Suddenly blame Drumpf for it.
3. Twitter picks it up and REEEEs about how evil Drumpf is for doing the same thing Obama/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Reagan/Carter/etc. and will claim it never happened before 2017.

We have pictures of children in the same cages under Obama, but they never staged a photo of a girl crying then.
 
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