Kagey K
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They will. I’m sure they do something dumb like calling it Episode Midgar (or the Resitance) there’s no way it doesn’t have a subtitle.
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Is it okay of Square Enix to not call it "Final Fantasy 7 Remake EPISODE/CHAPTER 1"?
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Shantae
Banned
I keep wondering if this game is just Midgar, what the hell do the rest of the games look like, and how many are we looking at?
Maybe my memory is fuzzy, but Midgar felt like a tutorial area for the original game, not a part one, but rather a prologue for the rest of the friggin' game. Sure, they can add stuff, and maybe try stretching it out if they want, but they better be adding ALOT to make it a worthwhile full game experience.
Maybe my memory is fuzzy, but Midgar felt like a tutorial area for the original game, not a part one, but rather a prologue for the rest of the friggin' game. Sure, they can add stuff, and maybe try stretching it out if they want, but they better be adding ALOT to make it a worthwhile full game experience.
sid2vicious
Banned
Even if they called it FF7 Midgar, people who haven't played the original FF7, still don't know what Midgar is, and can still confuse this for a full game. The fact is the only way to solve this is to either add a lame subtitle like "Part 1" or "Episode 1", or for people to wise up and look it up.
Edit: Also anyone who knows SquareEnix knows this practice is nothing new, started with FFX which concluded on a cliffhanger, did people expected a sequel? No, but we got one anyway. FF13 was also planned in 3 parts, but the first one was simply called FFXIII. I don't hear anyone crying about those being in parts, because people just accepted it. As games get bigger and more complex, this will become more and more the norm.
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D.Final
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Anyone who complains about the absence of the wording "Part 1" in the title of Final Fantasy VII Remake, in fact already knows that the game is divided into parts.
(making, in fact, useless to make it clear in the title)
An example I could give is:
The Last of Us
and The Last of Us Part 2
The Last of Us for PS3 is not called with the words "Part 1". But everything is ok because, people didn't know about a sequel.
As a result, perhaps, it would have been a surprise to people to see more Final Fantasy VII Remake games after Final Fantasy VII Remake, had it not been communicated.
And she would have complained even more about it now.
But the truth is, if people want to complain about a game, they find any reason to complain.
Whether it's the game title, or the fact that the game has an open ending, or that there are few Summon, or that it is no longer turn-based, etc.......
The usual step of useless common complaints.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
When will the full game be ready to buy? That's all i care about.
I'm not buying FF7 just to play a little bit of a game. I've waited this long, I can wait a bit longer for the full game
I'm not buying FF7 just to play a little bit of a game. I've waited this long, I can wait a bit longer for the full game
sid2vicious
Banned
Welp I hope you didn't play The Last of Us part 1, because you only played a little bit of the game, before part 2.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
What does TLoU have to do with FF remake?
sid2vicious
Banned
Nothing, I'm just saying any game that has a sequel can be considered part 1 of a whole. FF7 Remake Part 1 is a full game in of itself, with a beginning and end, and full experience, without the need of playing any of the subsequent games, to get a full understanding of it.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
You're talking shit.
sid2vicious
Banned
Why would I be talking shit, did I say something you don't understand?
NAI1210
Member
I kinda assumed the 3 parts would be digital release only then a physical release once all 3 parts where released, and on digital stores you would be able to pay up front for all parts,for 60 or 20 per part separately making it obvious this an episodic release or am I missing something, surely they are not charging full price for each part
Slings and Arrows
Banned
Is there a time line from square as to when the full story of ff7 will be retold?
sid2vicious
Banned
NAl1210 and Gashtronomy, maybe you should think of this game less as in "parts" and more as "game 1" in a series.
NAI1210
Member
So you think remaking an old game chopping it into 3 parts, padding it out, and charging full price for each part and calling it a series is OK
lyan
Member
I don't personally understand the sentiment of, by default, expecting a game to always reach a conclusion in its story, plenty of books end with a cliffhanger with no indication in its title.
sid2vicious
Banned
Yes I do actually, because it's not the old game, it's a full blown remake with enhanced graphics, dialogue voice acting that probably takes up 3x the space of a movie or most games, and each game is expanded drastically in every way compared to the original. So yeah, I'm totally fine with them charging full price for a full game, even if it has future sequels.
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NAI1210
Member
If that's the way they are going and greatly expanding on it and making it into a trilogy or series , I personally think they should actually drop the remake part of the title and give each game a subtitle that is fitting for each part
Kev Kev
Member
at this rate is could be 10 years until theyve released all parts... so 7.5 years possibly, 5 years at very best
each part is hopefully going to be full game length. we'll have a better idea of what to expect once this firs part is released
sid2vicious
Banned
But going back to The Last of Us argument, other developers have done the same and no one has batted an eye for them. Pretty hypocritical don't you think?
NAI1210
Member
Not really when it comes to the last of us argument, I have never played the game so don't know if it ends on a cliffhanger if a part 2 was ever planned initially, but it really seems like a stupid argument, did you feel like you only seen half a film when you realised there was a god father part 2,I was pissed off when a part 3 was announced cause that was clearly just made for a payday, video games get sequels and turn into franchises all the time if they sell, no one has remade an old game and expanded it that greatly to turn it into a trilogy,and charge full price for each part though, which I don't even know if that's the case or not, or if it will just be an episodic release that we have seen many times before
Fbh
Member
They should absolutely have something in the box and advertising to make it clear it's a remake of a PART of FF7.
As it's now it's misleading as hell
To be fair some places do regulate product naming and advertising to prevent it from being, among other things, misleading.
If any one will file a complaint against this and if any court/judge will agree that it is misleading only time will tell.
Yep, game is just Midgar. And as for how many games the people in charge of this project have said during interviews that not even they are sure how part it will end up having.
And yeah they have said this part alone will have content comparable to full entry. The trailers (and recent leaks) have definitely shown new events, story elements and areas that weren't in the original, though how much of that there will be and how good it will has yet to be seen.
It's not longer one game. It's a story that has been taken as a base to make a franchise of multiple games.
Same way the Hobbit 1-3 isn't "one movie", Mass Effect 1-3 isn't "one game" and Harry potter 1-7 isn't "one book".
But based on how slow Square is with their stuff I imagine it's probably going to be like 10 years before the entire story has been remade
As it's now it's misleading as hell
To be fair some places do regulate product naming and advertising to prevent it from being, among other things, misleading.
If any one will file a complaint against this and if any court/judge will agree that it is misleading only time will tell.
Yep, game is just Midgar. And as for how many games the people in charge of this project have said during interviews that not even they are sure how part it will end up having.
And yeah they have said this part alone will have content comparable to full entry. The trailers (and recent leaks) have definitely shown new events, story elements and areas that weren't in the original, though how much of that there will be and how good it will has yet to be seen.
It's not longer one game. It's a story that has been taken as a base to make a franchise of multiple games.
Same way the Hobbit 1-3 isn't "one movie", Mass Effect 1-3 isn't "one game" and Harry potter 1-7 isn't "one book".
But based on how slow Square is with their stuff I imagine it's probably going to be like 10 years before the entire story has been remade
OutrageousFacts
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Wat
This thread is about the many people who'll buy the game, reach the end and realize 'oh, that's only part of the story?!'.
The comparisons to TloU2 are ridiculously. TloU2 is a regular sequel. FF7R March 2020 just a part of a game.
NAI1210
Member
Thank you
#Phonepunk#
Banned
jesus christ im tired of the concern trolling. the game is in parts, people just need to get over that. i wish to god there was a way to hide every post where someone says "Wait this game isn't the full game?" like jesus fucking christ people how many years have we known this?
they can call it whatever they want. if you aren't living under a rock then you know it's in parts. if you are on a message board then you know it's in parts. i don't see a scenario where someone buys a $60 game HD remake of a game they love and yet they do no research at all to see what it is they are purchasing.it doesn't make logical sense it would happen at all. why are we so concerned
it's calling BEING AN EDUCATED CONSUMER. if you don't know how to research a product before you buy it, then you shouldn't be purchasing things in the first place.
they can call it whatever they want. if you aren't living under a rock then you know it's in parts. if you are on a message board then you know it's in parts. i don't see a scenario where someone buys a $60 game HD remake of a game they love and yet they do no research at all to see what it is they are purchasing.it doesn't make logical sense it would happen at all. why are we so concerned
it's calling BEING AN EDUCATED CONSUMER. if you don't know how to research a product before you buy it, then you shouldn't be purchasing things in the first place.
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OutrageousFacts
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Most people outside of Internet forums go to a store, look at a box and decide if that looks interesting. Also, there are probably enough lapsed-gamers who played PS1, quit gaming due to life™, and now happen to be back, but with less time investment.
You're incredibly dishonest to dismiss these people.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
I've gamed for over 25 years and have never done much 'research' when it comes to buy games. Hell, I usually buy games blind and my instincts are spot on.
If it wasn't for a previous GAF thread I wouldn't have known FF7 was in parts and why would I? Seeing 'remake' on the box would indicate to me that it's the full game.
Anyway, we will see what happens when the game launches. Will Square receive flack for their wording?
If it wasn't for a previous GAF thread I wouldn't have known FF7 was in parts and why would I? Seeing 'remake' on the box would indicate to me that it's the full game.
Anyway, we will see what happens when the game launches. Will Square receive flack for their wording?
NeoLed
Member
These people sound like new players. They won't know that this only part of the story. I don't know about the Endgame when I watch Captain America : The First Avenger. Not complaining
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Deleted member 774430
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Knowing Square Enix, the next one will be called Episode something.
I'm already overwhelmed by the amount of milking we're going to witness with FFVII, FF XVI may not even be a thing this gen.
Are you sure?
Bravely Default
Bravely Second
Bravely II
I'm already overwhelmed by the amount of milking we're going to witness with FFVII, FF XVI may not even be a thing this gen.
Are you sure?
Bravely Default
Bravely Second
Bravely II
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OutrageousFacts
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Yes, dito
sid2vicious
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No you won't, sjws don't buy games, they just troll and complain. Nice try with this thread though
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OutrageousFacts
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No you won't, sjws don't buy games, they just troll and complain. Nice try with this thread though
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Vawn
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What about games planned to be a three part story from the start, such as Mass Effect?
Agnostic2020
Member
It’s their ip. They can call it whatever they want and no one can say why I guess
NGL gaming most likely has the stupidest consumers out of any business.
OutrageousFacts
Banned
Fine, because Bioware was shouting from their lungs "THIS IS A TRILOGY! YOUR CHOICES MATTER FROM START TO END!"
Feels to me like this game is a shitshow, and 100 Youtube videos worth of drama, just waiting to happen.
So if I pay up 60 bucks for Final Fantasy VII Remake I am only getting part one (of three?) which is a remake of some of FFVII?
Does anybody know:
How many separate games this will be divided into?
When those are due to release?
How much of the original FFVII each part will cover?
So many details about this game are up in the air right now and I can just see the outrage brewing when players who have already played and finished FFVII get this and realize where the "remake" ends.
I guess we don't know how substantial this first section of the remake is going to be.
However it does seem bad that they are not explicitly stating that this is not actually a remake of FFVII in it's entirety.
It's a remake of the first part of FFVII.
So if I pay up 60 bucks for Final Fantasy VII Remake I am only getting part one (of three?) which is a remake of some of FFVII?
Does anybody know:
How many separate games this will be divided into?
When those are due to release?
How much of the original FFVII each part will cover?
So many details about this game are up in the air right now and I can just see the outrage brewing when players who have already played and finished FFVII get this and realize where the "remake" ends.
I guess we don't know how substantial this first section of the remake is going to be.
However it does seem bad that they are not explicitly stating that this is not actually a remake of FFVII in it's entirety.
It's a remake of the first part of FFVII.
It's a remake of an old game though.
Why would anyone assume that "FFVII Remake" is not a remade version of FFVII but is actually a remake of some of FFVII with the rest of the remade game to be released in 2021? 22?
It's like if Disney drops a trailer next year for Star Wars - Episode IV - A New Hope and we see that it's the original Star Wars with new actors and effects etc etc but then you go to the cinema and the movie ends just after Alderaan gets blown up with a bit "to be continued...". People are not going to be fine with that.
I don't see how it's the same as a new IP having new entries in the series.
They are pushing it as a remake of an older game but it's not a full remake. They are only remaking part of the original game.
Grandmaster Hash
Banned
what that's not how the law works lol
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
it actually does lol
Grandmaster Hash
Banned
Go on then what about it is illegal