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[Mister Apoc]

for passangers to use in case they have to bail, this whole kobe thing could of been avoided


seriosuly why havn't aviation officials added emergency parachutes in helicopters

 

[ipukespiders]

Rotors?
Plus, don't they usually travel at too low a height for a parachute to be feasible?

 

[Birdo]

Helicopters fall straight down........... Giant spinning blade.

 

[Hendrick's]

I know they have tested airbags for helicopter crashes, but not sure what the end result was.

 

[SidViscous]

the BlackBox is always fine, why don't they just make a giant one that people can climb into in case of emergencies.

It's a conspiracy by the greeting card companies who need accidents to fund the months where there are no special occasions.

 

[Kamina]

Hight and the way helicopters fall.

 

[Nymphae]

Rotors?
Plus, don't they usually travel at too low a height for a parachute to be feasible?

People base jump off buildings with chutes don't they? Seems like something would be better than nothing.

 

[Ballthyrm]

Because they have Autorotation

 

[Knightime_X]

Jumping out of a rapidly descending craft or crashing.
Either way you're gonna have a bad time.

 

[Bryank75]

There are helicopters with ejection seats and parachute systems but they are usually combat helicopters like the Russian KA-50 or the prototype Comanche helicopters. The blades usually shoot off or remove themselves prior to the ejection mechanism engaging.

These systems are very expensive and civil helicopters don't usually come into heavy combat and so are not worth outfitting.

The SAS actually use a Sikorsky very similar to the one Kobe used, it's very rare for them to have any problems.

 

[mcz117chief]

There are helicopters with ejection seats and parachute systems but they are usually combat helicopters like the Russian KA-50 or the prototype Comanche helicopters. The blades usually shoot off or remove themselves prior to the ejection mechanism engaging.

These systems are very expensive and civil helicopters don't usually come into heavy combat and so are not worth outfitting.

The SAS actually use a Sikorsky very similar to the one Kobe used, it's very rare for them to have any problems.

Have these been ever live tested? I only heard about it in theory but never saw it for real.

 

[Virex]

Wrong section of the forum

 

[888]

People base jump off buildings with chutes don't they? Seems like something would be better than nothing.

But the building doesn't have spinning blades on a helicopter that is losing altitude. If the helicopter was locked in at an altitude and not falling it probably would be fine.

 

[MeatSafeMurderer]

Allow me to demonstrate why with a handy dandy gif.

Hope that clears up any questions you might have OP.

 

[Bryank75]

Have these been ever live tested? I only heard about it in theory but never saw it for real.

As it is a Russian helicopter the success / failure rate is probably not available. It does at least give you a chance to escape an otherwise certainly lethal situation.
Russian helicopter engineering is also excellent in my opinion, it is the operational software, sensors and systems that they fall behind.

 

[iconmaster]

the BlackBox is always fine, why don't they just make a giant one that people can climb into in case of emergencies.

Or why don't they just make the whole helicopter out of the stuff they use for the black box?

 

[MaximusPayne]

Have you ever stuck your finger in a fan??? Yeah, doesn't feel good, does it?

 

[vpance]

Or why don't they just make the whole helicopter out of the stuff they use for the black box?

Heavy and not aerodynamic. A giant rolling bouncy ball is better.

 

[lock2k]

I love airplanes but helicopters are fucking whack.

 

[M1chl]

Helicopters sucks, airplanes rules:

 

[hunthunt]

You would still need to choose between be burned to death in the wreckage, smashed against the floor in a freefall from 500 meters or being cut to pieces by the propeller blades.

 

[Snailys]

No parachutes cos propellers will cut your forelock and you don't want to show yourself so ugly on your hometown

 

[Heebie Jeebies]

Googled 'parachute opening height':Most main parachutes take 600 to 1200 feet of free fall to open. The reserve parachute can open in less than 400 feet. The reserve absolute minimum would be around 700 feet to land without injury.

Googled 'helicopter height restrictions: 500 feet to any person, structure, vehicle or vessel at minimum.

So yeah, jumping out of an helicopter with a parachute is likely to end in the same result as staying in the helicopter

 

[MeatSafeMurderer]

Helicopters sucks, airplanes rules:

Don't forget the most important thing; nobody has ever died in a plane crash.

 

[Mistershine.]

And this relates to gaming how??

 

[Smaller than Atom]

Hollywood. Lol.

Just jump out and dive roll when you hit the ground. If you're a good guy you'll live. If you're a bad guy you'll be skewered on a fence or flagpole.

Dude this is reality. Physics and human error are at play here.

 

[M1chl]

Don't forget the most important thing; nobody has ever died in a plane crash.

Who said that: But based on transported people and amount of crashes, Helicopters definitely rule.

 

[alienator]

i jumped out of a helicopter with a parachute in call of duty once

 

[JordanN]

And this relates to gaming how??

Too soon?

 

[iconmaster]

Just outfall the chopper, then deploy a safe lateral distance away.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Can't really parachute your ass out of slamming into the side of a mountain because the pilot didn't see it.

PS I highly recommended sky diving at dusk on a warm summer night that shit was magical

 

[Grinchy]

"And why don't cops use sleep darts to incapacitate criminals instead of shooting them with guns??"

 

[kaps123]

Just using common sense

Helicopters - Obviously the rotors
Airplanes - People aren't trained to use it correctly, sucked into engines, expensive.

Aircrafts are designed to be very safe, we like to have the probability of any event happening remain at 1E-9 or lower. Most crashes are caused by pilot error and you will not know something is wrong unless they tell you. Things like engine fire and such are recoverable events, an aircraft can fly with one engine and can glide with no engines. So the chances of the pilot going through all the instructions to recover the aircraft then failing (which is extremely improbable) then going onto notify the passengers to get their parachutes on and use it correctly that is impossible to control in a high stress situation.


And to be completely honest, it will be way too expensive.

 

[Frito_Pendejo]

I mean, from what I read they were going 184mph when the helicopter impacted. They would've had no time to react at all once they realized what was happening. Sometimes there's just no escaping death.

 

[MeatSafeMurderer]

Who said that: But based on transported people and amount of crashes, Helicopters definitely rule.

I was joking
But yeah, I don't have specific stats on it but the odds of ever dying in a plane crash are so low that I can't see helicopters being statistically safer.

 

[M1chl]

I was joking
But yeah, I don't have specific stats on it but the odds of ever dying in a plane crash are so low that I can't see helicopters being statistically safer.

They are not, but smaller aircraft are statistically not that great when it comes to safety.

 

[Mistershine.]

Too soon?

It's never too soon.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

yikes

 

[vpance]

i jumped out of a helicopter with a parachute in call of duty once

I loved flying them in BF. Never actually got the hang of it though. Always ended up crashing or bailing pretty quick.

 

[Great Hair]

?

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

I don't understand how you could read the details of the Kobe Byrant crash and think "yeah, parachutes would have helped". They literally had no idea the mountain was there and rammed into it rotor first. It's like asking why the occupants of a deadly head-on collision didn't just get out of their cars.

 

[molasar]

We still need helis for this

but the final destination can have some

Spoiler: rag doll side effects

 

[JordanN]

Even if you had a parachute, where could you safely land?

The wind could slam you into a building or you could land right in front of oncoming traffic.

Your best bet would be landing in a forest but then your parachute could get stuck in the trees?

 

[Great Hair]

 

[MeatSafeMurderer]

This sounds like the kind of idea a stoner would come up with when you explain to him that giving helicopter passengers parachutes is a terrible idea.
"...then just like...put the parachute on the helicopter bro..."

 

[Elektro Demon]

Because they have a different kind of fall then planes. They go down really fast.

 

[AlteredForms]

Helicopters travel at much lower altitudes than regular aircraft, not to mention there's a safety hazard with those spinning rotors. Kobe and those people on board weren't going to make it either way.

 

[Nester99]

Perhaps but 10 seconds of thought into it...

 

[Captain Zyrain]

I mean, objectively.. I don't see why that'd be a bad idea. It'd only really work if your engine somehow went out at altitude, but that seems like it would at least solve that problem. I am not sure how many times that's happened (and wouldn't have saved Kobe).

 

[MeatSafeMurderer]

Helicopters travel at much lower altitudes than regular aircraft, not to mention there's a safety hazard with those spinning rotors. Kobe and those people on board weren't going to make it either way.

Atleast, with the forces involved in hitting a mountain at 150MPH, it's likely there was little more than a split second of sheer terror before the end and they didn't suffer...much...