DeepEnigma
Not in software dev industry. Programmers in their best state of mind (make mistakes), many of us have done it and faced the consequences. Drinking on the job is out of the equation.
He was still bigger than me lol. Nice guy though.
I meant that double digits is between 10-99 so he had extremely good chances to be correct (the XSX could be 10 and he would still be «correct» but nice reading comprehension. ). Oh and the most vocal member against double digits in the other forum was actually a Sony diehard fan (Bosch). He hasn't been proven right in anything, the only thing that we know (which was another easy, educated guess from him based simply in the past) is that we would have a ps5 reveal in February with him informing us that he would return then. Well....we are waiting.dude. no. just no. go back and read this thread and see how many people here refused to entertain double digits. this is aggravating, we are now completely disregarding actual history.
double digits is not 12. now ive heard everything. 12 must be triple digits. absolutely shameful stuff.
when klee said double digits in 12 august, all xbox fans hiding behind their team thermals moniker jumped down his throats. he went out of his way to describe the actual conversations he had with his source who confirmed that both consoles were double digits, were more powerful than the navi 5700xt and had more tflops. when harrassed time and time again by team thermals who refused to go above 10 and asked if it was 10.1 or 10.2, he said no, higher.
one thing this gen has showed me is how toxic some fanbases can be. here is a guy who was proven right in the end, and yet the harrassment he received has continued. like wtf more do you have to do?OsirisBlack be prepared to recieve the same backlash after the ps5 reveal because its clear that these people live in an alternate reality where 12 tflops is not double digits. they are completely delusional to the point they refused to believe the only guy who said their precious console was more powerful than the 5700xt in terms of rdna tflops.
feel free to shit on him when ps5 turns out to be 9 tflops, but as for right now, phil himself has proven him right. the xbox series x being 12 tflops proves him right. period. end of story. otherwise, get checked for borderline personality disorders because your ability to perceive reality is completely skewed, this is not normal.
I first started gaming playing games that looked like the ones below (and I loved them) so to me, what you are posting is mind blowing and kids don't know how good they have it!
Let him be lol insane folks will go after imaginary witch hunts . Don't take them serious and many of us appreciate ur inputs .
Atleast go follow the conversation. First person who said it's 12 tf rdna was Klee like 3 min after tga reveal where everyone was confused about gcn vs rdna . Don't try to change facts
Clock changes are easier than cu count changes and the like, which require a complete redo. Yes it's tricky because it puts other areas out (as I said earlier in another post) but much easier. That wouldn't take a year, it can be done with a quick enough turn around.
The RDNa thing for both consoles I also talked about earlier too in this post:
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
That's true, but that could also have to do with the form factor the console might have. We'll see eventually. I would be surprised if Sony doesn't drop any information in March. Well everything we've heard points to it being expensive. Adding 1 tflop over XBSX is not going to be costly on its...www.neogaf.com
"Both systems are rdna 2, but not. They are essentially rdna 1.9 so to speak, with features bolted on, meaning that you can call it the next generation of rdna, you could even call it rdna 2 if you wanted. I wouldn't myself but that seems to be what they are doing so ok."
You mean after MS made an official statement mentioning RDNA ? It was right there, not my fault that some Sony fans wanted to keep preaching otherwise, which some continued to do before yesterday. Nobody else was confused the articles arrived just after MS' announcement all said RDNA .
Nope, everyone and their mother were expecting the consoles to be less than 10 TFlops, if you said at that time 9 TF in your predictions you would get banned for trolling because it was too much for a console in 2020, Klee was bashed and insulted when he said that both are double digits. Not ONE whisper was saying XSX or PS5 is double digits.
In that era, this game was the most terrifying game ever, especially when you fail.
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saying that are about 1.9 rdna - so close that they can call it rdna 2.
again, this is revisionist history. bringing up bosch when you have r600 as the leader of team thermals on this very board is crazy. ignoring colbert who led the harassment campaign by pretending to be william fucking shakespeare on twitter is again absolutely bizarre. and bosch never harrassed klee or called him a piece of shit like shepshal, senjustusage and others.
I'd honestly be worried giving info to them when already posting here tbh.
if the devkit was 12 tflops, the console should be 12 tflops. sony devkits in the past didnt have extra headroom for tflops. that was only MS with their 6.6 tflops x1x gpu. sony's ps4 pro and ps4 devkits were at the exact tflops counts as the retail versions.
WhispersintheWind
if one SSD is 2gb/sec and the other is 1gb/sec then yes that 1gb/sec difference is quite large and will show up a lot in games. If one is nearly 6 and the other is barely 1 different... you won't be seeing that. What I mean is you will, on first party games, but 99% of the time you won't see much of anything. It's the same as saying if you have a 1 tf difference between a 1tf and a 2tf console, the gap is massive, but a 12 and an 11? It's nothing worth even worrying about .
Facts I agree with you.To me they seem to me that they over-estimate PC gaming a lot. Not to mentioned that nearly more than 99% will be below next gen specs.
Having 8GB of GDDR5 RAM was cutting edge in PS4, Share-play and remote play was cutting edge. Having a game streaming platform 1st was cutting edge. But as cheeky lil dissing fanboy you skipped mentioning how bad xbox one damage control was. Folks from MS straight up lying to make up for their box's shortcomings
I'm trying to think of the best way to describe it and I really can't think of a suitable example (so I'll use a game engine) but from what I can gather, you can rewrite a game engine everything from scratch, or you can bolt on new features to an existing engine. Both will get you the result you want, but obviously only one will be a new fresh engine. So while you will get RDNA 2 features, its more like RDNA 1.9 In that it's not quite the full deal, but does the job just fine. Same on both consoles btw, they both do it a little different but same result.
I am new here... but I saw this happen. The way harassment happened on Era was shameful.. I expected more from them.. maybe I shouldn't have. Guys like Colbert derailing threads, shifting the agenda as he sees fit. A cult of personality where speaking fluff to detract from anything Sony does positive is the name of the game.
It goes both ways , you want him to be right because it would make the ps5 more powerful.
Yeah, they said "Custom RDNA 2" on Twitter, too.
Aren't all Navi GPUs RDNA?
($10 gamepass for a month and rally through all of them at once by choosing a good timing)
No, he said Navi RDNA for both, man, stop lying, you liar, he said PS5 and XSX are gonna be RDNA-based GPUs.
What if they were Russian game developers?
BOOM! There it is!! He just said it minutes ago.
This post should be threadmarked.
If he trusted this forum he wouldn't try to get verified in the other forum you know.
I actually mention the Xbox one as a big fuck up, that's more than enough. The ps5 was a weak and conservative console by 2013 standards that became a mythical console because the Xbox one was shit. Yeah the psnow was really cutting edge, so cutting edge that Sony changed it completely when MS brought gamepass.
He said it after MS mentioned RDNA in its XSX announcement not before, sorry kid.
He knew it already by saying double digits, you keep splitting hairs right now after you lied multiple times.
The fact that he asked for verification in the other forum, it is not that he didn't try.
