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[ShadowWolf712]

Compared to the MASSIVE PC base.

Bro, compared to the PC base, EVERY game has "low sales".

Good grief, these jokes.

 

[Lanrutcon]

When PS4 exclusive: "HZD is a 10/10, gratz to Guerilla for knocking it out of the park, this game OMG"
When PC version announced: "HZD is B tier at best, congratz on your average open world garbage, sequel will actually be good"

Welcome to NeoGAF. Sometimes we have popcorn with our salt.

 

[DeepEnigma]

And MLB baseball in 2021 for "Multiple platforms".

don't be surprised if it's a day one game on Xbox and PC. Maybe Switch too. Unless they give Sony a break and do a staggered ship date.

you can tell it wasn't something that they wanted to be promoted, but Sony didn't want to say one word about it because they are console warred. The communication came from MLB and some sites picked up on it. Even that whole week Sony and Sony San Diego didn't say a word.

we'll see how they promote MLB the Show in 2021

Because it's for next year's version, not this year. The licensing deal had to be announced publicly.

You can bet next year they will promote it, and it has nothing to do with fanboys. They still have this year's version that is only on the PS4 to sell and the deal was signed at the licensing renewal long before this year's MLB 20 was even going into marketing mode.

 

[hemo memo]

Bro, compared to the PC base, EVERY game has "low sales".

Good grief, these jokes.

Numbers don't lie. Look at every AAA game released on both PC and consoles and you'll see PC version sales dominating the charts. Sony can't skip that massive PC gamers market.

 

[yet_another_alt]

Already played it, got the plat. Only thing I want from this is the possibility that PC can get the PS4 exclusive Horizon collabs for Monster Hunter World.

 

[dEvAnGeL]

Yes because the PC base is so massive, millions of them are going to buy a PS5 to play HZD2.

Or maybe because the massive PC base, Sony hope to sell more copies because of the low PS4 version sales.

You probably didn't read the "few consoles" at the end on my sentence, reading comprehension is vital when starting an argument, I don't know, it might make you look stupid if you don't use it.......

 

[nowhat]

Numbers don't lie. Look at every AAA game released on both PC and consoles and you'll see PC version sales dominating the charts. Sony can't skip that massive PC gamers market.

It wasn't until year three that the PC sales were able to match both consoles, and it was quite tied in year three between PS4 and PC. And in the first year PS4 really dominated.

 

[TheStruggler]

The man said the plan was to try to get them hooked with the games, which would entice them to buy hardware to get access to the other games in the library.

I have doubts that'll work, but I see no reason to doubt him at this point. And given how easy the port job is thanks to the DS port, it's a fairly safe title to experiment with.

I honestly think that they may also be doing this as they plan to announce Horizon 2 for PS5 soon, and hope that might entice PC gamers to jump on it, even if only a fraction who weren't in this gen.

its not going to entice them to buy hadrware when they realise they can wait a year or so and then have the game come to PC, why would that entice anyone?

 

[Shin]

Numbers don't lie. Look at every AAA game released on both PC and consoles and you'll see PC version sales dominating the charts.

You're lying. Ubisoft games have sold more on PS4 than Xbox+PC combined, I believe for 2 years or something along those lines.

 

[TheStruggler]

Console owners will continue to buy hardware. That's a given. But there are many pc players that have no interest in consoles, and simply just won't buy any. Sony makes ZERO money from people like this. Now of course, Sony will sell the ps5 at a loss initially, so it only makes sense to squeeze as much money out of people as possible, AKA selling software on other platforms. This is a smart decision for Sony, as they are at least making some money, rather than, no money from the pc user base.

I can understand investors and people with stock options in the company Sony, being a little upset. But for y'all average consumers to be upset and bent out of shape, is fucking hilarious to say the least. I don't get why some people get so invested and emotional over a company or console. Shouldn't everyone be happy that others get to play *insert game title here*?

Then Sony makes zero money, the people who get enticed can buy the hardware and spend more money which will lead to more sales and revenue in the long term than compared to pc players realising they dont need to buy teh hardware and wait for the software instead.

Can i get a big mac at burger king or do i have to go somewhere to get it? Having it everywhere devalues your brand

 

[DeepEnigma]

It wasn't until year three that the PC sales were able to match both consoles, and it was quite tied in year three between PS4 and PC. And in the first year PS4 really dominated.

I wonder what the revenue is? PC usually receives much deeper discounts at faster rate.

 

[TheStruggler]

Numbers don't lie. Look at every AAA game released on both PC and consoles and you'll see PC version sales dominating the charts. Sony can't skip that massive PC gamers market.

You do realise CDPR said that the only reason they were able to make Witcher 3 was because they were going to sell it on consoles right...? The console market is much bigger than you think and the PC market doesnt have exclusives that can compre to console exclusve games.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

The install base for pc is huge and only getting bigger. It just makes sense. It doesn't mean every game released on PC and consoles is going to sell best on pc. It may in the long run(or not) but us PC gamers love our discounts lol.

 

[LordKasual]

I dont give a fuck about whether or not this game was console exclusive before

because these PC mods are about to be CRAZY

 

[OmegaSupreme]

You do realise CDPR said that the only reason they were able to make Witcher 3 was because they were going to sell it on consoles right...? The console market is much bigger than you think and the PC market doesnt have exclusives that can compre to console exclusve games.

World of Warcraft says hello.

 

[Proelite]

Sorry guys. I was ridiculed, disrespected, flamed, etc.. for being a "fake" insider who had an agenda. I told myself I wouldn't leak on these boards anymore. You guys will have to wait for the official news. And there are more exclusives coming. Don't fall for that "excuse" as to why they are developing on the PC. If you go back and look at all of my past posts, you will see a pattern as well as plenty of clues as to what's coming on the horizon.

How many TF was the PS5 again?

 

[TheStruggler]

World of Warcraft says hello.

Oh I'm sorry so does: GOW, Uncharted, Spiderman, TLOU P2, Breath of the Wild, Mario, Astral Chain, Fire Emblem 3H.....should I go no or let you keep your WOW....?

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Oh I'm sorry so does: GOW, Uncharted, Spiderman, TLOU P2, Breath of the Wild, Mario, Astral Chain, Fire Emblem 3H.....should I go no or let you keep your WOW....?

I don't play wow lol. It's the biggest game revenue wise ever though outside of minecraft. And if you want to get real technical you can play most of those games on pc with either psnow or emulators

 

[Orta]

I'm all for Sony releasing its AAA stuff a gen late. PS5 owners get Horizon 2, GOW2 etc, we get the originals. And in 2026 or whenever I'll look forward to Horizon 2 when part 3 is launching on the PS6!

 

[Barakov]

Well it finally happened. Alright Sony, Bloodborne is next. I need that game at 60fps.

 

[diffusionx]

You do realise CDPR said that the only reason they were able to make Witcher 3 was because they were going to sell it on consoles right...? The console market is much bigger than you think and the PC market doesnt have exclusives that can compre to console exclusve games.

Honestly who the hell cares. Consoles run on PC-derived hardware and PC-derived operating systems and use PC-derived APIs. It would be foolish not to put the games on every platform. Everything is designed to facilitate this top-to-bottom. This will be even more true next gen, no matter what console fans think about their magic SSDs.

The important point is that these games are very successful on PC and the PC can support these games. This idea that the PC is all $1 steam sales and pirates has no basis in reality, absolutely none.

 

[TheStruggler]

I don't play wow lol. It's the biggest game revenue wise ever though outside of minecraft. And if you want to get real technical you can play most of those games on pc with either psnow or emulators

Ah so we are going this route now, have fun streaming your game then as well, however as I stated before PC exclusive games cannot compare to console exclusive games. I dont need revenue, im talking about more emoriable experiences.

 

[TheStruggler]

Honestly who the hell cares. Consoles run on PC-derived hardware and PC-derived operating systems and use PC-derived APIs. It would be foolish not to put the games on every platform. The important point is that these games are very successful on PC and the PC can support these games. This idea that the PC is all $1 steam sales and pirates has no basis in reality, absolutely none.

Well I know one big company cares....CDPR, because again they said they wouldnt have been able to play Witcher 3 if it wasnt for consoles backing it as well....so.....
Also again as stated Sony would be more successful and mske more money keeping them in hosue and making you buy the console for them, simple business practices...how do they work?!

 

[Phunkydiabetic]

SlashBringingHasher GET ITT!

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Ah so we are going this route now, have fun streaming your game then as well, however as I stated before PC exclusive games cannot compare to console exclusive games. I dont need revenue, im talking about more emoriable experiences.

You are entitled to that opinion, my dude. I'll be playing all those games too. Just not on your platform.

 

[TheStruggler]

You are entitled to that opinion, my dude. I'll be playing all those games too. Just not on your platform.

More of a fact but ok.
Im fine with that, my commentary is that this is a mistake from Sony and will only be a short term solution and a much long term problem for their brand

 

[TGO]

Does it look better than HZD2 on PS5?

 

[diffusionx]

Well I know one big company cares....CDPR, because again they said they wouldnt have been able to play Witcher 3 if it wasnt for consoles backing it as well....so.....

CDPR built a game for all 3 platforms because it is easy to do so... so what. That's the point. It's better for everyone. Do you think it is some sort of gotcha that games come out on 3 different platforms these days? That's the whole point. It's why Sony is putting the games on PC too. It only makes sense. They are just doing what literally every single developer in the world (save Nintendo) has already done over the past couple generations. Putting your game on PC these days is the norm not the exception.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

More of a fact but ok.
Im fine with that, my commentary is that this is a mistake from Sony and will only be a short term solution and a much long term problem for their brand

What games you like are subjective. It's not a fact at all.
I do agree with you about the brand being devalued. It's only one game so far but if it's a trend then I have very little reason to invest in another PlayStation since I've already invested so much in my pc. Much like how I sold my Xbox when they started bringing everything to PC.

 

[TheStruggler]

CDPR built a game for all 3 platforms because it is easy to do so... so what. That's the point. It's better for everyone. Do you think it is some sort of gotcha that games come out on 3 different platforms these days? That's the whole point. It's why Sony is putting the games on PC too. It only makes sense. They are just doing what literally every single developer in the world (save Nintendo) has already done over the past couple generations. Putting your game on PC these days is the norm not the exception.

No they actually did it because they needed the money to do it and would make more on an install base such as the ps4 etc. Without consoles Witcher 3 wouldnt have happened, CDPR have stated this as a fact, also it is a stupid norm because it devalues your brand and selling your hardware to a much larger group of people then

 

[TheStruggler]

I agree with you there. It's only one game so far but if it's a trend then I have very little reason to invest in another PlayStation since I've already invested so much in my pc. Much like how I sold my Xbox when they started bringing everything to PC.

Bingo, this is what I am saying. Why bother buying a playstation if you cna wait a year or two and get the game on PC, peopel did this for GTAV and Red Dead 2 and the list goes on and on.

 

[TheStruggler]

What games you like are subjective. It's not a fact at all.
I do agree with you about the brand being devalued. It's only one game so far but if it's a trend then I have very little reason to invest in another PlayStation since I've already invested so much in my pc. Much like how I sold my Xbox when they started bringing everything to PC.

What games do you like?

 

[sid2vicious]

I dont give a fuck about whether or not this game was console exclusive before

because these PC mods are about to be CRAZY

I'm calling it now, Link skin for Aloy!

 

[DoctaThompson]

Why do some people care what games Sony brings to pc? It's not like pc is getting these games as exclusives, and not coming out to its own hardware. Some people on here really act like spoiled little brats. Do I care if games that originate on pc, come to console? Hell no. I want everyone to enjoy games, cause we're all gamers right? With that being said, I look forward to adding a bunch of Sony games to my catalogue in the upcoming years.

 

[diffusionx]

No they actually did it because they needed the money to do it and would make more on an install base such as the ps4 etc. Without consoles Witcher 3 wouldnt have happened, CDPR have stated this as a fact, also it is a stupid norm because it devalues your brand and selling your hardware to a much larger group of people then

When you see someone like Ace Combat 7 or Tekken on PC, do you think, "Namco did this because they needed the money and without PC this game wouldn't exist"? Probably not... but why? It's the same thing right, long-standing console game makes the move to PC. But it's done for the same reason why Witcher 3 came to PC. Everybody is putting their game on every platform these days. It just makes sense to put Witcher 3 everywhere because it is trivial to do so, of course when you can reach double or triple the audience at low cost you have to do it. Nobody is going to skip out on millions of sales for no reason.

 

[TheStruggler]

When you see someone like Ace Combat 7 or Tekken on PC, do you think, "Namco did this because they needed the money and without PC this game wouldn't exist"? Probably not... but why? It's the same thing right, long-standing console game makes the move to PC. But it's done for the same reason why Witcher 3 came to PC. Everybody is putting their game on every platform these days. It just makes sense to put Witcher 3 everywhere because it is trivial to do so, of course when you can reach double or triple the audience at low cost you have to do it. Nobody is going to skip out on millions of sales for no reason.

No but that is straight from CDPR mouth...? they said this themselves that without consoles Witcher 3 wouldnt have been a thing, they wouldnt ahve been able to maker the game, PERIOD .....why is this hard to grasp, they.......said......they.....needed......consoles......to.....make.....the.......game

 

[SleepDoctor]

Sorry guys. I was ridiculed, disrespected, flamed, etc.. for being a "fake" insider who had an agenda. I told myself I wouldn't leak on these boards anymore. You guys will have to wait for the official news. And there are more exclusives coming. Don't fall for that "excuse" as to why they are developing on the PC. If you go back and look at all of my past posts, you will see a pattern as well as plenty of clues as to what's coming on the horizon.

Cant take them serious. They pick and choose when an "insider" is credible. Its when its something they want to hear. Just look at the Tommy Fischer debacle lol.

 

[TheStruggler]

Why do some people care what games Sony brings to pc? It's not like pc is getting these games as exclusives, and not coming out to its own hardware. Some people on here really act like spoiled little brats. Do I care if games that originate on pc, come to console? Hell no. I want everyone to enjoy games, cause we're all gamers right? With that being said, I look forward to adding a bunch of Sony games to my catalogue in the upcoming years.

because it devalues their brand, their console and in the long run gives them less money, and frankly the quality of their games. How is xbox doing with their quality of games ever sicne putting most and majority of them on PC?
I WANT EVERYONE TO ENJOY BUG MAC'S.....but you need to go to Mc D to buy one.....is that anti-consumer? or is that business?

 

[DoctaThompson]

because it devalues their brand, their console and in the long run gives them less money......
I WANT EVERYONE TO ENJOY BUG MAC'S.....but you need to go to Mc D to buy one.....is that anti-consumer? or is that business?

Off topic question for you specifically... Do you own any stock in Sony, cause you are really defending them. They should pay you, if they aren't already. Do you think Sony will go out of business by doing this? Are you aware that Sony can either miss out on money, or make money by putting games on pc? I for one won't buy a ps5, but Sony can make money from me by putting it's games on pc. It's really not rocket science. Many pc owners have no interest in buying a console, but they will buy games for their pc's. Also, do you have any other examples, or will you continue to pedal the Witcher 3 for every single comment, going forward?

 

[Alexios]

@VFXVeteran proved right.

@Abriael_GN @Whitecrow Alexios @Red_Driver85 etc... you lads ok? Post if you're barely hanging on, sitting in a dark room with Linkin Park on repeat.

It's not February so proven wrong tbh. I never said it's not coming either, I just said there was no evidence prior to this thread. I was very clear in saying "I'm not saying it's not happening" multiple times in the other thread, maybe you missed it

#FuckEGS

 

[diffusionx]

No but that is straight from CDPR mouth...? they said this themselves that without consoles Witcher 3 wouldnt have been a thing, they wouldnt ahve been able to maker the game, PERIOD .....why is this hard to grasp, they.......said......they.....needed......consoles......to.....make.....the.......game

Here's exactly what CDPR said.

"If the consoles are not involved there is no Witcher 3 as it is," answers Marcin Iwinski, definitively. "We can lay it out that simply. We just cannot afford it, because consoles allow us to go higher in terms of the possible or achievable sales; have a higher budget for the game, and invest it all into developing this huge, gigantic world. "Developing only for the PC: yes, probably we could get more [in terms of graphics] as there would be nothing else - they would be so focused, like if we would develop only on Xbox One or PlayStation 4. But then we cannot afford such a game."

Here's the reality. Every game is in this boat. Ace Combat 7 and Tekken need PC as part of achievable sales and for the higher budget. Selling to more platforms makes higher budgets possible. Witcher 3 isn't special and consoles don't have unique magic sauce that makes games possible. They're just a platform that people buy into and other people support, same as PC. If Sony leans into PC more, their games will get the same benefit.

CDPR: Witcher 3 was made possible because of console sales

Edit: shit, damn the enter button, I entered too soon, lol. Pulled a Sopranos there. Mods, can one of you complete/change the title? :( Edit 2: Thank you! Did the console versions restrict the PC version? "If the consoles are not involved there is no Witcher 3 as it is," answers Marcin...

www.neogaf.com

 

[Md Ray]

What's more shocking than it coming to PC is that it's thankfully not a timed Epic Games Store exclusive and it's published by PlayStation themselves on Steam. This is a great move. And I'm glad I held out and didn't buy this for PS4.

 

[Zerotex]

Good strategy from Sony.
Problably they are trying to bring more player to PS plataform releasing some old games on PC..." I will play HZD on PC and I will have to buy PS5 to play HZD2."

 

[slade]

Man, I'm going to have to double dip if this port is actually solid. Horizon was my most played game the year it released.

 

[Lanrutcon]

It's not February so proven wrong tbh. I never said it's not coming either, I just said there was no evidence prior to this thread. I was very clear in saying "I'm not saying it's not happening" multiple times in the other thread, maybe you missed it

Would be nice but I call bs (like the claimed prediction for DS).

How soon we forget.

But you're good, right? No feelings of depression? No dark thoughts? Remember: we're here if you need to talk. Nobody is taking your Sony away, buddy.

 

[GymWolf]

Numbers don't lie. Look at every AAA game released on both PC and consoles and you'll see PC version sales dominating the charts. Sony can't skip that massive PC gamers market.

really? i always thought the opposite...

are you sure of this?

 

[Alexios]

That doesn't say it's not coming either. Again I said multiple times in that thread that I'm not saying it's not coming, choosing one post I didn't say that in doesn't disprove that.

Remember: we're here if you need to talk. Nobody is taking your Sony away, buddy.

My Sony? Are you a fucking idiot? Look at my avatar and post history. At least stalk me properly you bozo, I haven't owned a Sony system since the PS1 and I only got that cos Saturn died. I've probably almost never posted in a Sony thread here.

 

[Lanrutcon]

That doesn't say it's not coming either.My Sony? Are you a fucking idiot? I haven't owned a Sony system since the PS1.

That's it. Let it all out. Bottling that kind of resentment isn't healthy in the long run. We can get through this.

Together.

 

[GymWolf]

Does it look better than HZD2 on PS5?

short answer? no!
Long answer? still no.

 

[Endless Fluff]

Good, I think it's reasonable to assume that more will follow. Not the newest games and not all of them, but I can see the old Killzone and Infamous games releasing on PC as well.

HZD is actually the first Sony's IP except for the MMOs.

Everybody's Gone to the Rapture would be the first, because that was developed by SCE Santa Monica and The Chinese Room... and the Chinese Room has stated in interviews that the IP is Sony's.