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Here is his interview about his hospital:
  • I have 135 COVID-positive patients
  • I don't think medical science has an understanding yet of why some people do so much worse than others. '
  • I would say 10 to 15 percent of the staff is out [sick with COVID]
  • For critically ill, Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) is probably much less effective.
  • We have very small morgues that can only hold five bodies at a time and they do tend to get picked up relatively quickly.
  • I've been through Sandy, H1N1 influenza pandemic, 9/11. I have never been in a war. It feels like a war.


nymag.com

Inside a Brooklyn Hospital Right Now

Brooklyn Mount Sinai Hospital’s chief medical officer, on mounting deaths, overflowing waiting rooms, and the mobile morgue parked outside his window.
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gamerMan said:
Here is his interview about his hospital:
  • I have 135 COVID-positive patients
  • I don't think medical science has an understanding yet of why some people do so much worse than others. '
  • I would say 10 to 15 percent of the staff is out [sick with COVID]
  • For critically ill, Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) is probably much less effective.
  • We have very small morgues that can only hold five bodies at a time and they do tend to get picked up relatively quickly.
  • I've been through Sandy, H1N1 influenza pandemic, 9/11. I have never been in a war. It feels like a war.


nymag.com

Inside a Brooklyn Hospital Right Now

Brooklyn Mount Sinai Hospital’s chief medical officer, on mounting deaths, overflowing waiting rooms, and the mobile morgue parked outside his window.
nymag.com nymag.com
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Really sucks. Hopefully with developments in testing Doctors can find out the same day whether a patient is positive or not, and if they are they can begin treatment immediately. Problem is, right now its 5 days to get results back and by then it maybe too late for some to begin treatment. Like he said, Plaquenil(HydroxyChloroquine) is less effective in those that are critically ill. If they were able to find out the results sooner before they got to that point then we could be saving lives because for this drug to be effective it needs to be given to patients early on.
 
Me when I get my stimulus check...

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All Hail C-Webb said:
More testing is always good.
Second tweet is really interesting. They did select really young patients, and recovery still took a long time, but it got people off respirators, and we hear that is very rare.
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There are also some reports china has a drug too and they sent it to Turkey also. But that could be sketchy. I made a thread about it.

I am waiting for the antibody test which the UK and US are making sound like will be soon.
 
voidenberg said:
I just want this shit to be over. I wish i could sleep for a whole year.
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nope. you have to get groceries. we went to the store tonight, there are these people that dont care and just stand in your way to breath all over you. then you have the other end of the spectrum where people have masks and gloves. and since i started pretending there is poop on everything, i just want get the fuck out of there.

crazy shits bros
 
cryptoadam said:
This could also be big. 500 cured. If true, can be a lot of BS'rs out there.

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LOL! He's not an expert in anything except bullshit.
Since the start of the coronavirus outbreak, Zelenko, 46, has shared material on Facebook suggesting that the virus may have been deliberately developed by China as a population control device and that its threat was exaggerated by Democrats.
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His facebook page was taken down. Here was some of the stuff he was posting.

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gamerMan said:
LOL! He's not an expert in anything except bullshit.


His facebook page was taken down. Here was some of the stuff he was posting.

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Oh well guess too good to he true.

Heres more on the plasma. Small study though.

www.businessinsider.com

A new report raises hope that the blood of recovered patients can help treat severe coronavirus cases

Five critically ill COVID-19 patients got better after receiving the treatment. Three have left the hospital and two are in stable condition.
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You gotta read this article.

www.theatlantic.com

My Whole Household Has COVID-19

“The thought of simply breathing in and out without coughing and reuniting with my children ... is goal enough. To—literally—live and let live will be enough.”
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It's an interesting read, not too long, about the sick process.. But the best part is the dripping white liberal privilidge. Come for the 'partner' stay for the kids in the Peace Corps.
 
I just found out in an email from a friend of mine that she was on one of the last cruise ships in the caribbean with her girlfriends watching the NBA call off the season on MSNBC on the ship.

I was on a cruise when things rapidly declined. I was supposed to go to Haiti, Jamaica and Mexico. After the ship sailed, they announced Jamaica is not accepting ships into their ports. I think it was 3 days later Jamaica had its 1st case. Its funny Jamaica made the news but the hotbed in the Caribbean is DR and it's not being talked about. We went to Haiti but unfortunately it wasn't the true Haiti despite being on Haitian soil . Since no Jamaica, it changed to Costa Maya Mexico and Cozumel Mexico, Cozumel was already on the itinerary.

While on the ship, I could only get MSNBC and Fox, so spent a lot of time watching MSNBC. When basketball and the rest as you know got canceled, I became nervous as to what would happen with the ship, we were a few days away from returning to Miami and things were changing so rapidly. Came home without any anticipated problems. We are the last voyage on Oasis of the Sea before all cruises were suspended.
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Yeah I am not shocked bet if I asked around a little more I could find another person I know who was on a ship I know my godmother loves going with her best friends. I dunno what is so fun about this shit but Island people love going on these Florida based ships. Ugh, I am never going on a cruise.
 
Has anyone else noticed how active cops have been on the roads booking for fines. Me thinks that governments need a way to foot the huge covid 19 welfare payments being dished out atm.
 
I feel Cuomo is wrong. He's saying since the doubling-of-infections time is decreasing, the rate is slowing down. He's convoluting some concepts. Doubling is the change of X divided by the initial condition (DX/X), dividing by change in time (Dt). THAT's is slowing down. Not the rate, which is DX/DT.
 
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cryptoadam said:
This could also be big. 500 cured. If true, can be a lot of BS'rs out there.

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If HydroxyChloroquine turns out to be a wonder drug for this, I hereby call for mass firings throughout mainstream media for absolute negligence during this entire pandemic.

Of course, I'd call for that anyway, but in this case they I want them all fired twice.
 
Pasedo said:
Has anyone else noticed how active cops have been on the roads booking for fines. Me thinks that governments need a way to foot the huge covid 19 welfare payments being dished out atm.
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In case that is not a joke, motor vehicle fines do not go the Federal government.
 
Bad news:

NPR is reporting that some Wuhan residents in China who had tested positive earlier and then recovered from the disease are testing positive for the virus a second time. It's raising concerns of a possible second wave of cases, as China prepares to lift quarantine measures to allow residents to leave the epicenter of its outbreak next month. From the report:

Based on data from several quarantine facilities in the city, which house patients for further observation after their discharge from hospitals, about 5%-10% of patients pronounced "recovered" have tested positive again. Some of those who retested positive appear to be asymptomatic carriers -- those who carry the virus and are possibly infectious but do not exhibit any of the illness's associated symptoms -- suggesting that the outbreak in Wuhan is not close to being over.

One theory is that they were first given a false negative test result. Another theory is that, because the test amplifies tiny bits of DNA, residual virus from the initial infection could have falsely resulted in that second positive reading.
 
This thread is bringing out all the spergs/sleepers.
llien said:
Guys, please note this post about the "wonder drug".


On vaccines and commerce:
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No shit, cures aren't profitable. The medical corps are not interested in cures, they want treatment. Why would they invest in something that isn't profitable.
 
Cybrwzrd said:
This thread is bringing out all the spergs/sleepers.


No shit, cures aren't profitable. The medical corps are not interested in cures, they want treatment. Why would they invest in something that isn't profitable.
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eh, this isn't the whole truth

they do like money tho
 
Cybrwzrd said:
Why would they invest in something that isn't profitable.
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Just curious is the fact that having vaccines at this point would reduce financial damage by sums enough to fund such research for centuries if not millennia.

It's too uncertain for business to invest into it, but perhaps we can learn that having vaccine against crap is a must have.
 
llien said:
Just curious is the fact that having vaccines at this point would reduce financial damage by sums enough to fund such research for centuries if not millennia.

It's too uncertain for business to invest into it, but perhaps we can learn that having vaccine against crap is a must have.
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Big money works mainly short term. They can't see too far ahead, all that money covers their view.
 
llien said:
Just curious is the fact that having vaccines at this point would reduce financial damage by sums enough to fund such research for centuries if not millennia.

It's too uncertain for business to invest into it, but perhaps we can learn that having vaccine against crap is a must have.
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Why would a medical corp care about macroeconmics? You have to remember that these companies are run by small mind microeconomists, AKA MBAs.

Curing cancer, for example; would hurt their bottom line.
 
The Netherlands has 50 icus empty , good work by my government 🤡 will be full today.

Nice that you listened to our top doctor specialized in viruses originated from animals .. who said strict enforced lock down.

Not ... 🤣
 
When this is all said and done (and likely sooner than that), there is going to be a recession/depression in the world/US economy. This is not news, of course - everyone expects this despite the relief/stimulus packages being enacted. What I find more interesting - and frightening - is the prospect of what happens to the US when millions are without jobs and start demanding that the jobs provided by large American companies, which were previously outsourced, be brought back home to provide needed work for Americans. This will be interesting imo for the following reasons:

- It will bring into relief who really controls this country. If companies acquiesce and move jobs back home, then great. But I don't think they're going to do so outside of a government mandate, because that will erode their profit margins since US labor is more costly than its foreign counterpart. It will be VERY interesting to see if the government actually puts the screws to these companies and forces their hand, because if they don't it will show us very clearly that the tail is is wagging the dog in our society (for those who didn't already know). This being laid bare will have a disillusioning effect on huge swaths of the populace imo. And if in fact the US gov't doesn't compel companies to move jobs and operations back home in the face of massive unemployment/poverty, then...

- ...we come to the frightening part, which is the very real possibility of violent civil unrest or even a revolution. If millions are out of work and unable to provide for their families, and the government clearly demonstrates that it is more loyal to large corporations than to its constituency, I can easily see things turning very ugly, very quickly.

This push to return jobs back home will be aided by the lessons learned and what we've all witnessed during this crisis: that dependence on foreign nations for essential products (drugs, medical supplies etc.) is shortsighted at best and deadly at worst. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the gov't will be on the right side of history on this one when the shit hits the fan in 2-6 months.
 
donfonzie said:
One man in India Infects 40,000 people...

Super Ultra Mega Spreader: RIP Edition

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From the article:
"However, experts worry that the real number of positive cases could be far higher. India has one of the lowest testing rates in the world, although efforts are under way to ramp up capacity. "

Basically, it's possibly 10,000+ (or even 100,000s+) infections. People are basically on top of each other in major cities.
 
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autoduelist said:
In case that is not a joke, motor vehicle fines do not go the Federal government.
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I'm in Australia. It's just something I've noticed recently and coincidental with our government dishing out billions in welfare packages. Not sure where it goes but I don't think the general rules apply at the moment. There's going to be even more money governments will need to dish out to support people through these times and who knows for how long. I've just been thinking about where it's going to come from when alot of businesses have shut down and people are out of work.
 
Loki said:
When this is all said and done (and likely sooner than that), there is going to be a recession/depression in the world/US economy. This is not news, of course - everyone expects this despite the relief/stimulus packages being enacted. What I find more interesting - and frightening - is the prospect of what happens to the US when millions are without jobs and start demanding that the jobs provided by large American companies, which were previously outsourced, be brought back home to provide needed work for Americans. This will be interesting imo for the following reasons:

- It will bring into relief who really controls this country. If companies acquiesce and move jobs back home, then great. But I don't think they're going to do so outside of a government mandate, because that will erode their profit margins since US labor is more costly than its foreign counterpart. It will be VERY interesting to see if the government actually puts the screws to these companies and forces their hand, because if they don't it will show us very clearly that the tail is is wagging the dog in our society (for those who didn't already know). This being laid bare will have a disillusioning effect on huge swaths of the populace imo. And if in fact the US gov't doesn't compel companies to move jobs and operations back home in the face of massive unemployment/poverty, then...

- ...we come to the frightening part, which is the very real possibility of violent civil unrest or even a revolution. If millions are out of work and unable to provide for their families, and the government clearly demonstrates that it is more loyal to large corporations than to its constituency, I can easily see things turning very ugly, very quickly.

This push to return jobs back home will be aided by the lessons learned and what we've all witnessed during this crisis: that dependence on foreign nations for essential products (drugs, medical supplies etc.) is shortsighted at best and deadly at worst. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the gov't will be on the right side of history on this one when the shit hits the fan in 2-6 months.
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To be honest, it's needed, a global revolution , governments and companies are congested , even more in decision making, management has grown out of proportion, managers even know better than people who have a function in which they learned for. Overruling them and creating problems . Our world turned into a checklist society , if it's not on a list or in a procedure, pass. Our financial system needs a complete rework , work and living needs more balance , and not 24/7..

But after all is done , people will just be doing what they did ..
 
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Pasedo said:
I'm in Australia. It's just something I've noticed recently and coincidental with our government dishing out billions in welfare packages. Not sure where it goes but I don't think the general rules apply at the moment. There's going to be even more money governments will need to dish out to support people through these times and who knows for how long. I've just been thinking about where it's going to come from when alot of businesses have shut down and people are out of work.
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In America, there is no path up. Fines go to local municipalities, in some case the State. There is no path 'up' to the Federal government for general police ticketing.

The Federal government is not paying for these payouts by 'raising money' from existing sources, they are literally printing it out of thin air. We are devaluing every existing dollar in existence and risk runaway inflation, though we do so in an attempt to avoid collapse due to work stoppage. Everybody's retirement fund is going to be worth a bit less to pay for this.

There is no need for the Feds to come up with a way to fund 2 or 3 trillion when the Federal Reserve can just poof it into existence.
 
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sinnergy said:
To be honest, it's needed, a global revolution , governments and companies are congested , even more in decision making, management has grown out of proportion, managers even know better than people who have a function in which they learned for. Overruling them and creating problems . Our world turned into a checklist society , if it's not on a list or in a procedure, pass. Our financial system needs a complete rework , work and living needs more balance , and not 24/7..

But after all is done , people will just be doing what they did ..
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A global revolution is the last thing we need. I'm all for localized government but if we reached a point where the entire world is in revolution due to economic collapse, fear, and panic we're not coming out smelling like roses, but with cartel like organizations and warlords and/or techno-totalitarian enclaves.

I agree the further away power is, the more problems get created. And there is a better balance to be struck. But nothing good will come from total meltdown. We already had a Dark Ages, we don't need a sequel.
 
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DunDunDunpachi said:
Thankfully this will not happen.

Also, there's nothing preventing people from remaining on lockdown. If people have concern for their own safety, remain in isolation.

I agree that most infected aren't even tested. But instead of leaving it at that, let's ask the next logical question: if a higher number of actual infected are floating around out there and this virus is as deadly as some are claiming, wouldn't we have a much higher spike in death?

Testing doesn't prevent people from dying from "pneumonia-like symptoms".
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The death WILL come.
 
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