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[cryptoadam]

I think there are 2 choices. China is lying or they have a therapeutic.

There numbers can't be real when you compare it to the rest of the world. Especially with millions traveling from Wuhan to the rest of China a day before Hubei was placed into lockdown.

 

[Jtibh]

That's very misleading buddy. It seems they closed down very early just like here in CZ and are going with a gradual reopening of things, including schools and only for very young kids. Children are amongst the group with least risk, so it makes sense.

I still insist, do you know at which center I should go get my chip implanted dude? Might be convenient if it has Bluetooth. IsOr can I install a SIM card?

I didnt know cz is relevant in the world . I happen to know a thing or 2 about that country

So i am just going to put you on mute since you are into attacking me for what ever reason.

Have a good one and dont even try to reply i wont see it.

 

[Nvzman]

There's no way lockdowns will continue past May without a crapton of riots/protests. Literally no way. I can definitely believe social distancing until a vaccine, but the idea that people are going to be forced inside their homes as much as possible for more than a year is unrealistic as hell, because nobody is going to listen, especially once the weather gets warmer and nicer.

After May, imo the agenda for most states is going to be "must wear face masks in public, otherwise you are on your own". At this point people are going to stop giving a shit and just take the risk to save their businesses (and sanity).

 

[JordanN]

There's no way lockdowns will continue past May without a crapton of riots/protests. Literally no way. I can definitely believe social distancing until a vaccine, but the idea that people are going to be forced inside their homes as much as possible for more than a year is unrealistic as hell, because nobody is going to listen, especially once the weather gets warmer and nicer.

Depending on where you live, the police are very active and they're handing out fines to people who are outdoors without a valid reason.

Just yesterday, they broke up a a group of 18 people for playing cricket.

18 charged in Brampton for playing cricket, breaking social distancing bylaw

Brampton municipal bylaw officers laid 11 charges over the weekend after neighbours complained about a group of men playing cricket, breaking physical distancing ru…

torontosun.com

And a family in a nearby city where fined just for rollerblading in a parking lot.

Oakville family faces big fine after rollerblading amid emergency order | Watch News Videos Online

Watch Oakville family faces big fine after rollerblading amid emergency order Video Online, on GlobalNews.ca

globalnews.ca

 

[Nvzman]

Depending on where you live, the police are very active and they're handing out fines to people who are outdoors without a valid reason.

Just yesterday, they broke up a a group of 18 people for playing cricket.

18 charged in Brampton for playing cricket, breaking social distancing bylaw

Brampton municipal bylaw officers laid 11 charges over the weekend after neighbours complained about a group of men playing cricket, breaking physical distancing ru…

torontosun.com

And a family in nearby city where fined just for rollerblading in a parking lot.

Oakville family faces big fine after rollerblading amid emergency order | Watch News Videos Online

Watch Oakville family faces big fine after rollerblading amid emergency order Video Online, on GlobalNews.ca

globalnews.ca

To be fair, that's Canada, I'm sorry for being a bit tunnel-vision with my statement but I was mainly referring to the United States. In the US, doing stuff like this would definitely stir a lot of shit, I mean the police breaking up an easter gathering peacefully alone already has riled up a lot of people. If this continued for months and months, theres no way violence won't escalate.

 

[Setzer]

I think there are 2 choices. China is lying or they have a therapeutic.

There numbers can't be real when you compare it to the rest of the world. Especially with millions traveling from Wuhan to the rest of China a day before Hubei was placed into lockdown.

If that story about the 40k urns is true and those deaths were related to the virus then based on that I would say over 10mil were infected.

 

[Jtibh]

I think there are 2 choices. China is lying or they have a therapeutic.

There numbers can't be real when you compare it to the rest of the world. Especially with millions traveling from Wuhan to the rest of China a day before Hubei was placed into lockdown.

Check the video i posted about the who

 

[ManaByte]

Cuomo a couple of weeks ago: "We need 40,000 ventilators!"

Cuomo today:

 

[cryptoadam]

Cuomo a couple of weeks ago: "We need 40,000 ventilators!"

Cuomo today:

But Drumpf isn't going to get ventilator, but Drumpf said they don't need that many, Orange man wants to see black and brown New Yorkers die.

Can we find out what happend with the PPE now? Maybe Trump was onto something since he seem to have some insight on NY's ventilator situation.

But joking aside this is great news and as bad as things got in New York they were able to respond and get the equipment they needed.

In the end the virus is a roll of the dice and either you get better or you die. We don't have any drugs for it so its going to come down to each individual and how their body fights the virus. Until our science gets there we can't do anything about it. Its up to the virus if it fucks you up or not.

 

[Insane Metal]

China didn't warn public of likely pandemic for 6 key days

In the six days after top Chinese officials secretly determined they likely were facing a pandemic from a new coronavirus, the city of Wuhan at the epicenter of the disease hosted a mass banquet for tens of thousands of people; millions began traveling through for Lunar New Year celebrations.

apnews.com

 

[cryptoadam]

China didn't warn public of likely pandemic for 6 key days

In the six days after top Chinese officials secretly determined they likely were facing a pandemic from a new coronavirus, the city of Wuhan at the epicenter of the disease hosted a mass banquet for tens of thousands of people; millions began traveling through for Lunar New Year celebrations.

apnews.com

I am not sure why the AP has to stick this into the article.

The delay may support accusations by President Donald Trump that the Chinese government's secrecy held back the world's response to the virus. However, even the public announcement on Jan. 20 left the U.S. nearly two months to prepare for the pandemic.

During those months, Trump ignored the warnings of his own staff and dismissed the disease as nothing to worry about, while the government failed to bolster medical supplies and deployed flawed testing kits. Leaders across the world turned a blind eye to the outbreak, with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson calling for a strategy of "herd immunity" — before falling ill himself. Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro sneered at what he called "a little cold."

And notice how they call out 3 specific leaders. What about Hug a chinese day in Italy, or womens march in spain? What about Macaroon in France.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Sacre bleu!

 

[pr0cs]

I still can't believe the radiation levels at Chernobyl are only 3.6 Roentgen!

This pandemic and china's response to it is eerily similar to how Chernobyl was handled. Communism at its finest.
Sadly we don't really have any Legasov to save us this time.

 

[sinnergy]

China didn't warn public of likely pandemic for 6 key days

In the six days after top Chinese officials secretly determined they likely were facing a pandemic from a new coronavirus, the city of Wuhan at the epicenter of the disease hosted a mass banquet for tens of thousands of people; millions began traveling through for Lunar New Year celebrations.

apnews.com

Old news, I was in this thread in Jan and still am, it was chaos and under reporting of numbers and incompetence...

To bad the rest of the world followed suit and did nothing to prepare.

And now we are here ... the 1,5 meter society. I think my generation could even be lost cause .. but it is what it is.

I became unemployed a couple of weeks before the lock downs, I have no job in sight , at least not where my heart lies and what I learned for at high level . I don't know what it will bring me , but I have my health my family and that's all I need !

Until better times! Stay save and stay inside or close to home!

 

[Jezbollah]

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

Well that answers my question. We just don't seem to get any information about them, yet we can get article after article about Gilead or HQ or J&J.

Is it being lost in translation, is China ahead of the rest of the world in finding cures?

Israel has some great groups working on it, but after listening to more from Kizzmekia Corbett of the NIH, I'm counting on her team to bring it home for us.
The Chinese have a head start (even if you don't believe they were studying the virus) and might get there first, but who knows if they'd even share.

 

[ManaByte]

China Impressed By Michigan Governor's Totalitarian Policies

BEIJING—In a candid speech Tuesday, President Xi Jinping stated he was "pretty impressed" by Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer's handling of the coronavirus outbreak, specifically praising her totalitarian policies.

babylonbee.com

 

[cryptoadam]

Israel has some great groups working on it, but after listening to more from Kizzmekia Corbett of the NIH, I'm counting on her team to bring it home for us.
The Chinese have a head start (even if you don't believe they were studying the virus) and might get there first, but who knows if they'd even share.

I have been watching Israel (of course). Plasma therapies are going well and they think they are a few weeks away from an oral vaccine (that will still need to go through testing of course). Actually Israel is one of the places I am watching the most for any medical/tech breakthroughs.

Is Corbett the one who said 80% chance of a vaccine by September?

As far as them sharing, ya thats a concern for me. Especially with the latest announcement of them censoring research.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Old news, I was in this thread in Jan and still am, it was chaos and under reporting of numbers and incompetence...

To bad the rest of the world followed suit and did nothing to prepare.

Yeah, that's the real problem.. yahoo's like us were following this from near the beginning and could have told anyone this was serious. I can't comprehend that there wasn't anyone in government who was doing the same.

SOMEONE dropped the ball, but it was almost universally dropped around the world.. so I find it hard to really pin too much blame. I feel like this kind of thing probably pops up every now and then and 9.9/10 times it amounts to nothing, so people just figured this would end up minor. The WHO & China's responses certainly didn't help either.

 

[Insane Metal]

I still can't believe the radiation levels at Chernobyl are only 3.6 Roentgen!

Not great, not terrible

 

[cryptoadam]

Yeah, that's the real problem.. yahoo's like us were following this from near the beginning and could have told anyone this was serious. I can't comprehend that there wasn't anyone in government who was doing the same.

SOMEONE dropped the ball, but it was almost universally dropped around the world.. so I find it hard to really pin too much blame. I feel like this kind of thing probably pops up every now and then and 9.9/10 times it amounts to nothing, so people just figured this would end up minor. The WHO & China's responses certainly didn't help either.

But also remember back then we had the 50 centers like Chairman tickles coming in and telling us that everything was propaganda and that China was doing a great job. I am sure you remember them and others disputing all the tweets/vids etc being posted as fake or exagerations.

Now imagine that but instead of posters on a forum its world leaders, and instead of the tickleman its Xinni the Poop and other Chinese officials and scientest saying its not that bad we got this.

 

[JordanN]

Coronachan now officially tops 2 million cases.

And I'm living with one of them.

 

[The Scrivener]

Macaroon

haha nice I call him Macaroni

NWO Globalist Reptilian has less of a savoury flavour to it.

I got a text from the government this morning thanking me for not leaving my house over Easter. They tracked me on my phone around my house. Thing is what they forgot is that Gen-Xers can live without their phones.

Boy, can't wait for Bill's vaccine!

 

[#Phonepunk#]

lol when i see that China death count.

 

[ManaByte]

CCPNN caught in the act

CNN updates article after being accused of publishing ‘Chinese propaganda'

CNN changed a story on its website Wednesday after being widely accused of originally publishing "Chinese propaganda" in a report that cited a media outlet controlled by the Chinese government.

www.foxnews.com

 

[GHG]

lol when i see that China death count.

The "recoveries" as well.

 

[Joe T.]

To be fair, that's Canada, I'm sorry for being a bit tunnel-vision with my statement but I was mainly referring to the United States. In the US, doing stuff like this would definitely stir a lot of shit, I mean the police breaking up an easter gathering peacefully alone already has riled up a lot of people. If this continued for months and months, theres no way violence won't escalate.

Speaking of stirring a lot of shit:

 

[ManaByte]

We Never Needed to Flatten the Curve

The purported rationale for the shutdowns that have crushed our economy and devastated the lives of tens of millions of Americans is the need to “flatten the curve.” We have all seen di…

www.powerlineblog.com

We know now, however, that the COVID-19 virus was grossly overestimated, at least with respect to the demand its victims would place on hospitals. Weirdly, it is not easy to find a definitive figure for the number of hospitalizations to date. The Centers for Disease Control estimates, if you do the arithmetic, that as of April 4 around 41,250 people were hospitalized due to COVID-19, which seems too low. The COVID Tracking Project pegs it at 62,673 as of April 13. Does that sound like a lot of hospitalizations? As usual, the numbers need a context.

During last year's flu season, according to the CDC, 490,561 people in the U.S. were hospitalized due to the seasonal flu virus. The prior year, it was 810,000 flu hospitalizations. This explains why, as we noted here, America's hospitals have not been overwhelmed by the number of Wuhan flu sufferers, not even in New York City. The number of COVID-19 hospitalizations falls well within the natural variability in flu hospitalizations that we always see from year to year.

 

[WhiskeyDiver]

Huzzah! Coronavirus tests came back negative. Only took 9days to get the results.

Another spark of good news is 3 people in my house got the 1200 dollar stimulus check and one got their 2500 dollar tax return, so bills are caught up completely.

Im greatful that two amazing things happened in one month. I was sweatting bullets for awhile.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

We Never Needed to Flatten the Curve

The purported rationale for the shutdowns that have crushed our economy and devastated the lives of tens of millions of Americans is the need to “flatten the curve.” We have all seen di…

www.powerlineblog.com

Time makes more converts than reason.

I'm glad that GAF allowed some of us to voice skepticism and poke holes in the narrative during the early days of the outbreak. That can't be said for a lot of online social media / forums.

 

[sinnergy]

We Never Needed to Flatten the Curve

The purported rationale for the shutdowns that have crushed our economy and devastated the lives of tens of millions of Americans is the need to “flatten the curve.” We have all seen di…

www.powerlineblog.com

BS, this could Easily be as worse but even worse than the Spanish flu, killing 600,000 in the us alone ...

On top of this most need ventilators and a icu ..

And when all that is full , it all starts adding up. People who have flu , cancer, strokes can't be helped ... all deaths related to corona .

That's why it's important to flatten the curve .

 

[Sejan]

Growth in the US is slowing considerably. This chart shows growth as a percentage rather than the raw numbers. We have been at 4.5% over the past two days. As before, the red line is a rolling 5 day average.

This is a doubling rate of ~16 days. Compared to 2-3 days just a month ago. We are definitely heading in the right direction. At first, I thought these numbers were so low that it was just a blip over the holiday weekend, but they have carried through since then without any sign that they are unreliable so far.

 

[Mihos]

Cuomo Orders All Residents To Wear Face Masks Or Covering In Public

Funny since New York has an anti-mask law.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

We Never Needed to Flatten the Curve

The purported rationale for the shutdowns that have crushed our economy and devastated the lives of tens of millions of Americans is the need to “flatten the curve.” We have all seen di…

www.powerlineblog.com

This is a non-argument. If we DID flatten the curve due to the measures taken this is exactly what it'd look like.

 

[Sakura]

We Never Needed to Flatten the Curve

The purported rationale for the shutdowns that have crushed our economy and devastated the lives of tens of millions of Americans is the need to “flatten the curve.” We have all seen di…

www.powerlineblog.com

More flubro shit?
How many hospitalizations were there for New York for the flu in 2018 or 2019? How does that compare to hospitalizations for the Coronavirus for New York now? In 2018, there were around 25,000 hospitalizations for the flu in New York. That is over the entire flu season, not all at once. Meanwhile with coronavirus, New York had (has?) over 18,000 concurrent hospitalizations.
New York only ever gets around 4500 deaths a year from the flu. You can check the stats yourself https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/newyork/newyork.htm
Meanwhile New York already has almost 12,000 deaths from Coronavirus, and it ain't even over yet.
If you take a minute to think about these numbers, it shouldn't be that hard to figure out why people talk about flattening the curve.

edit:
For more perspective, here is an article from the NY times, back in 2018 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/30/nyregion/flu-season-new-york.html

On the third week of January, there were 7,779 confirmed influenza cases and 1,759 people hospitalized in New York, the highest weekly numbers since the state began reporting them in 2004, according to the New York State Department of Health. In New York City, the flu has sent 3,015 people to the hospital since the season began in October, a 33 percent increase from this time last year.
The uptick has crowded emergency rooms across the state, forcing some hospitals to temporarily divert ambulances and hire more staff. Officials are urging New Yorkers to get vaccinated and some have called on the federal government to ratchet up its efforts in New York.

3,015 people going to the hospital because of the flu over a period of 3 months, and it was crowding emergency rooms! Now for coronavirus we go from 0 to 18,000 hospitalizations in like a month, and the article wants us to believe that it isn't putting a strain on the health system?

 

[ManaByte]

Newsom announcing stimulus checks for illegal aliens right now.

 

[eot]

Growth in the US is slowing considerably. This chart shows growth as a percentage rather than the raw numbers. We have been at 4.5% over the past two days. As before, the red line is a rolling 5 day average.

This is a doubling rate of ~16 days. Compared to 2-3 days just a month ago. We are definitely heading in the right direction. At first, I thought these numbers were so low that it was just a blip over the holiday weekend, but they have carried through since then without any sign that they are unreliable so far.

Hate to be a doomer but percentage growth is pointless when the case numbers are largely constrained by testing (this is confirmed by a high and roughly constant % percentage and correlation between test numbers and daily cases).

 

[Chaplain]

Newsom announcing stimulus checks for illegal aliens right now.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Newsom announcing stimulus checks for illegal aliens right now.

The Governor also announced an unprecedented $125 million in disaster relief assistance for working Californians. This first in the nation, statewide public-private partnership will provide financial support to undocumented immigrants impacted by COVID-19. California will provide $75 million in disaster relief assistance and philanthropic partners have committed to raising an additional $50 million.

On one hand.. wtf. On the other, they're here.. and unlikely to be going back, so I don't see any net benefit to actual citizens if all the illegals get into further financial issues.

California's $75 million Disaster Relief Fund will support undocumented Californians impacted by COVID-19 who are ineligible for unemployment insurance benefits and disaster relief, including the CARES Act, due to their immigration status. Approximately 150,000 undocumented adult Californians will receive a one-time cash benefit of $500 per adult with a cap of $1,000 per household to deal with the specific needs arising from the COVID-19 pandemic. Individuals can apply for support beginning next month.

The state's Disaster Relief Fund will be dispersed through a community-based model of regional nonprofits with expertise and experience serving undocumented communities.

Who I am sure will in no way slice off a piece of the pie for themselves..

In addition to the $75 million in state funding, Grantmakers Concerned with Immigrants and Refugees (GCIR), a network of foundations focused on immigration issues, has committed to raising $50 million to support direct financial assistance to families of undocumented immigrants through the California Immigrant Resilience Fund, with initial lead investments of $5.5 million from Emerson Collective, Blue Shield of California Foundation, The California Endowment, The James Irvine Foundation, Chan Zuckerberg Initiative and an anonymous donor, among others. Those interested in supporting this fund can donate at www.immigrantfundCA.org.

Can I shred my citizenship to cash in on this?

Governor Newsom Announces New Initiatives to Support California Workers Impacted by COVID-19 | Governor of California

Governor announces new initiative to expand call center hours at the Employment Development Department to better assist Californians with unemployment insurance applications EDD will also implement a…

www.gov.ca.gov

 

[Jtibh]

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

On one hand.. wtf. On the other, they're here.. and unlikely to be going back, so I don't see any net benefit to actual citizens if all the illegals get into further financial issues.



Who I am sure will in no way slice off a piece of the pie for themselves..



Can I shred my citizenship to cash in on this?

Governor Newsom Announces New Initiatives to Support California Workers Impacted by COVID-19 | Governor of California

Governor announces new initiative to expand call center hours at the Employment Development Department to better assist Californians with unemployment insurance applications EDD will also implement a…

www.gov.ca.gov

Aaaaand there it is.

California drops the mask on their desire to prop up donor megacorporations with cheap, illegal workers.

 

[HellforLeather]

Cuomo a couple of weeks ago: "We need 40,000 ventilators!"

Cuomo today:

Hindsight is 20-20. Everyone is running off of models which is only as good as the data coming in and the data has been all over the place since the beginning of this entire ordeal. Shit, we are still learning more about the virus itself on a daily basis. Cuomo was trying to cover his own ass and can anybody blame him? Imagine if he came out and just said "Well the models look like we will need 40k respirators but my gut tells me we will only need about 1k"

Even Trump was saying that they ended up ordering more way more ventilators then its looking like we will need, but its not a bad thing to have too many as they can go into the stockpile or we can sell them to other countries.

 

[Jtibh]

For people who live in denail about europe opening schools and lifting lockdowns


German schools to reopen in early May, citizens encouraged to wear MASKS shopping and on public transport https://www.rt.com/news/485909-germany-schools-reopen-may-coronavirus/


My sister works at the children hospital in germany so i can confirm this before some cz comes at me again.

For the phone tracking app which becomes mandatory in certain countries

Coronavirus Spy Apps: Israel Joins Iran And China Tracking Citizens’ Smartphones To Fight COVID-19

Israel confirms it will use counter-terror cyber tools to fight the spread of COVID-19.

www.forbes.com

For chip implants after corona virus though its fake or just a heads up of whats to come if things get worse

False claim: Bill Gates planning to use microchip implants to fight...

Bill Gates foresees the use of “digital certificates” with health records, but did not say in March 2020 that these would be in the form of microchip implants.

www.reuters.com

But given that more and more companies use chip implants to track employees this can be very real very soon

The rise of microchipping: are we ready for technology to get under the skin?

As implants grow more common, experts fear surveillance and exploitation of workers. Advocates say the concerns are irrational

www.theguardian.com

I live in the mountains so i can just pack and move somewhere remote but the majority of people will become cattle.

 

[bitbydeath]

I think there are 2 choices. China is lying or they have a therapeutic.

There numbers can't be real when you compare it to the rest of the world. Especially with millions traveling from Wuhan to the rest of China a day before Hubei was placed into lockdown.

There were early reports/rumours that sick people in China were being burned alive so technically the virus didn't kill them.

 

[cryptoadam]

I don't know if I picked it up from you or another poster here but I like this lady and this YT channel. Is it from India? She doesn't pull any punches.

 

[Jtibh]

I don't know if I picked it up from you or another poster here but I like this lady and this YT channel. Is it from India? She doesn't pull any punches.

Inposted some from this channel so might be from me.

I say anything thats not cnn bbc and likes can be a good source of info.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Sweden is fine.

Swedish coronavirus model under fire as deaths rise

Sweden's softer approach to containing the new coronavirus was already an outlier in Europe and is coming under even more scrutiny as death rates leap ahead of its Nordic neighbours. As of Wednesday, a total of 1,203 people had died from nearly 12,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 -- a far higher...

news.yahoo.com

 

[Collz69]

How will this spy tracking app be able to track our phones if we just leave them at home?
I've already started leaving mine at home as a warm up, I also have a Nokia 3310 on standby.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

If he is so concerned he can give them the cash.

 

[sinnergy]

For people who live in denail about europe opening schools and lifting lockdowns


German schools to reopen in early May, citizens encouraged to wear MASKS shopping and on public transport https://www.rt.com/news/485909-germany-schools-reopen-may-coronavirus/


My sister works at the children hospital in germany so i can confirm this before some cz comes at me again.

For the phone tracking app which becomes mandatory in certain countries

Coronavirus Spy Apps: Israel Joins Iran And China Tracking Citizens’ Smartphones To Fight COVID-19

Israel confirms it will use counter-terror cyber tools to fight the spread of COVID-19.

www.forbes.com

For chip implants after corona virus though its fake or just a heads up of whats to come if things get worse

False claim: Bill Gates planning to use microchip implants to fight...

Bill Gates foresees the use of “digital certificates” with health records, but did not say in March 2020 that these would be in the form of microchip implants.

www.reuters.com

But given that more and more companies use chip implants to track employees this can be very real very soon

The rise of microchipping: are we ready for technology to get under the skin?

As implants grow more common, experts fear surveillance and exploitation of workers. Advocates say the concerns are irrational

www.theguardian.com

I live in the mountains so i can just pack and move somewhere remote but the majority of people will become cattle.

I live in Europe , and schools are not opening large scale , Denmark has some open , but with restrictions and in some provinces, Germany will only open classes that have exams and with restrictions ... first .. the UN recommends 1 month in between adjustments, so it will take months before everything is open , all other lock down measures are in place , some shops open with restrictions...

But we Dutch all ready had all the shops open that most countries are opening now ..

It's a cluster fuck and we will be living in it for years , with luck only 2020 and 2021.

Our government even said that in the future we could see a tightening of the measures if cases rise..