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[RokkanStoned]

On the gameplay itself, it looks virtually identical to the first game. You wait 5 years to end up playing pretty much the exact same game, but with a bad plot and an ending for the characters many won't find satisfying. Kind of a waste, but also to be expected. TLoU really didn't need a sequel. TLoU2 only proves that, by how much they've had to twist and turn it into horrible shapes to get something of a follow-up out of it.

I kinda disagree. A sequel is fine, but the natural manner would be either to completely focus on someone else than Joel And Ellie, though giving info on what happens with them through notes. Or as I imagined years ago, that "The Last of Us" would work much like "Final Fantasy", each title at least somewhat being self-contained experiences. So my idea was originally that TLoU2 would be about some sort of disaster befalling the planet and following the last people making their exodus and attempting at terraforming other planets. So basically each game would be a take on the human condition and human relations in post-apocalyptic scenarios. I think this works really well, especially considering that Naughty Dog has been somewhat struggling within their general third person shooter-adventure genre for a while.

I won't lie and say I wasn't hyped by the TLoU II reveal trailer, but that a follow-up that included Ellie and Joel would struggle in many aspects and that with Naughty Dog's track record on Uncharted, I didn't feel like they'd do very great in a follow-up scenario. Then again, people were so invested in Ellie and Joel, that they kinda had to do a sequel about them to capitalize on the TLoU brand.

 

[DForce]

The first leak said that she dies, the second guy denied that.
Thing is, the first guy got right the Abby stuff. The reddit post was describing a comment from a YT video so there's a chance he messed up some things.

I heard that she's the final boss and she dies mid-way through the game.. A lot of conflicting stuff at the moment.

 

[DonJorginho]

This sounds like a Fan Fiction gender swapped acid influenced take on MGS2.

 

[RedVIper]

Horrible precedent in the industry. If it happens at ND it can happen anywhere. Studio heads will become paranoid everywhere and this quite frankly makes everybody lose.

How does it make costumers lose? Now people can decide wether they want to buy the game or not.

Also, why did every female character in the game have a mastectomy?

 

[Fake]

Dunno if Ellie dies of not, but that episode list show indeed a fight with Ellie at 'Abbey' saga.

 

[Portugeezer]

It's funny how y'all are talking shit about the plot, characters etc. and then, when the game will come out, fucking everyone (not you guys, but people in general) will praise the "narrative" as the second coming of Christ, regardless of how bad/cringy it's going to be. It will be seen as a 10/10 GOTY masterpiece, you know that. They're been doing that with every PS4 exclusive for years. The most mediocre shit gets praised like they haven't played a video game before.

Playing a game influences how you perceive a story, so whilst it sounds bad who knows how it will be when you actually play.

The rest was just fanboy butthurt nonsense.

 

[Portugeezer]

I heard that she's the final boss and she dies mid-way through the game.. A lot of conflicting stuff at the moment.

Feels like Sony and ND are damage controlling and spreading disinformation to lower impact of leaks/spoilers.

But the videos will come, they won't lie.

 

[Mochilador]

I heard that she's the final boss and she dies mid-way through the game.. A lot of conflicting stuff at the moment.

Looks like she will be the final boss (abby-ellie-fight).

 

[dorkimoe]

There's a few people here who hate PlayStation I don't completely trust to not look up the spoilers and post them here.

Lol “hate PlayStation”. Just sounds so funny

Maybe know they will quit being bitches and release the game. We all know it’s done

 

[DForce]

Feels like Sony and ND are damage controlling and spreading disinformation to lower impact of leaks/spoilers.

But the videos will come, they won't lie.

But the person saying she won't die comes from the YouTuber who is leaking the videos.

 

[Justin9mm]

It sucks this has happened and shame on the person for leaking but maybe they should have handled the release and marketing a bit better and not delaying it 3 fucking times leaving people hyped, waiting then let down, rinse and repeat.

 

[DForce]

Looks like she will be the final boss (abby-ellie-fight).

It's not showing up for some reason.

 

[captainraincoat]

So ...was the game actually finished???

 

[Jayjayhd34]

It's funny how y'all are talking shit about the plot, characters etc. and then, when the game will come out, fucking everyone (not you guys, but people in general) will praise the "narrative" as the second coming of Christ, regardless of how bad/cringy it's going to be. It will be seen as a 10/10 GOTY masterpiece, you know that. They're been doing that with every PS4 exclusive for years. The most mediocre shit gets praised like they haven't played a video game before.

So your opinion is better than everyone else's? The fact of matter is that overwhelming people prefer sonys story driven games that have some of best graphics and storys in the industry. This is shown in the many Goty awards and millions upon millions of sales.

I myself and probably millions of others couldn't give to shits what Ellie looks like or what sexuality she has and for life of me can't understand why it triggers some people, I love for these people post picture with comment and bet majority look 100 times worse.

However its all opinon at the end of day and we all have that right Express those opinons.

If you think naughty dog games or sony games are mediocre that's your opinion and your entitled to that right, however to make there's some Wierd conspiracy surrounding Ps4 games is idiotic. Did Knack get rave reviews did days gone or the order?

 

[TwoDurans]

This sounds like a Fan Fiction gender swapped acid influenced take on MGS2.

You know Otacon, we really are the last of us.

 

[InterMusketeer]

To this day I still don't understand why that became such a big deal, lol. Really didn't need to be addressed at all in future games or worked around.

It's the result of the industry's obsession with "growing up". They want "deeper" stories than silly action flicks, and having the player question the things they do in games is a convenient way to keep making the same games, but inject the with some of that artsy smartsy nonsense. It doesn't work for me, because I do the things games ask of me to progress the story and enjoy the gameplay. Lots of people like that kinda stuff though. The first Bioshock had it, and there's the Stanley Parable. Those are popular games.

I agree and disagree. With the way TLOU handles it, I agree. With the way games like Hotline Miami and Spec Ops The Line handles it, I disagree. It all depends on the narrative and the storyline, something which TLOU isn't compatible with.

I haven't played those two games, so I can't speak on those. Personally it's just not a concept that I find interesting from the examples I've come across up 'till this point.

I kinda disagree. A sequel is fine, but the natural manner would be either to completely focus on someone else than Joel And Ellie, though giving info on what happens with them through notes. Or as I imagined years ago, that "The Last of Us" would work much like "Final Fantasy", each title at least somewhat being self-contained experiences.

I agree, they could've made a game either in the same setting with entirely different characters, or in an entirely different universe with similar themes. But that's not a true sequel. I always believed they would fuck it up and try to follow up on Joel and Ellie's story.

 

[Mochilador]

Fake I believe you'll understand this one:

Spoiler: some funny montage

It's not showing up for some reason.

Look again, I changed the link.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

edit: oops wrong thread.

 

[Fake]

Fake I believe you'll understand this one:

Spoiler: some funny montage

Chaves is Ellie in the end of this episode.

 

[YukiOnna]

Late Chapter 9 spoiler, but I just want to say that I'm really glad Square Enix did not cave to the bullshit Twitter activist crowd and

Spoiler

remove the Wall Market/Don Corneo section, including Cloud's dressing up as a woman. I really expected that this part would be dramatically changed and made more PC going into this game.

Instead, they went and made the whole thing even more fabulous, and I'm sure "problematic."

That's cool but what does it have to do with TLOU2? hahaha.

 

[Dacon]

I had little hope for this game after the mess that was Uncharted 4's pacing and story.

 

[mr.dilya]

I'll still play it, but it seems lame.

 

[apocaliptic]

Opening Amazon and looking through my orders. The last of us part 2 preordered. Clicked on the cancel preorder button. Thank you to whoever leaked the story. This game will also be the last of Neil.

 

[DForce]

Fake I believe you'll understand this one:

Spoiler: some funny montage

Look again, I changed the link.

I just read the post on Resetera. It's strange.

It's all strange. The leak from 22 days ago says Jessie dies, but the leaked proves differently.

Maybe the YouTuber wasn't the original leaker? It's strange.

 

[mr.dilya]

Fuck people who spoil these things.

Na fuck the company who is purposely delaying one of the most anticipated games of all time, just for kicks.

 

[Airbus Jr]

Man thats terible

Ellie as the last boss and killed ?

Who tf is this Abby?

How dare you do this to our hero man

 

[Fake]

I just read the post on Resetera. It's strange.

It's all strange. The leak from 22 days ago says Jessie dies, but the leaked proves differently.

Maybe the YouTuber wasn't the original leaker? It's strange.

I still believe Ellie indeed die because after that 'you guys are not ready for TLOUS2', can't be only Joel death because 'every TLOUS fan' speculated that.

 

[Jon Neu]

This one just popped up, too.

The plot thickens...


Oh, wait, it's my cock

 

[YukiOnna]

It's the result of the industry's obsession with "growing up". They want "deeper" stories than silly action flicks, and having the player question the things they do in games is a convenient way to keep making the same games, but inject the with some of that artsy smartsy nonsense. It doesn't work for me, because I do the things games ask of me to progress the story and enjoy the gameplay. Lots of people like that kinda stuff though. The first Bioshock had it, and there's the Stanley Parable. Those are popular games.

That shit usually bores me to no end. It was a cool brief moment in Uncharted 2 but it never needed to be expanded to some 'issue in the medium' but I'm going to assume it has a lot to do with people obsessed with wanting video games to always be thought provoking rather than fun and understanding that it's a video game.

 

[baphomet]

Don't particularly care about the leak enough to watch it, but I'm just gonna guess that

Spoiler

Joel dies

.

That's not even a very surprising spoiler. It's as generic as storytelling gets. I would have guessed that was what happened with how they've shown the game so far.

 

[DForce]

I still believe Ellie indeed die because after that 'you guys are not ready for TLOUS2', can't be only Joel death because 'every TLOUS fan' speculated that.

I guess that's what they meant by us questioning everything.

 

[Kacho]

LMAO Naughtyfrauds

 

[chitzy]

This game looks gay as fuck. Both literally and figuratively.

 

[Mochilador]

I just read the post on Resetera. It's strange.

It's all strange. The leak from 22 days ago says Jessie dies, but the leaked proves differently.

Maybe the YouTuber wasn't the original leaker? It's strange.

You gotta remember that the reddit post is someone describing a YT comment, so there's a chance he messed up something.
What gives credibility to that leak is the Abby stuff. He got right the name and the fact that you play as her for half of the game.

 

[ScarletSpider]

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[Dacon]

Can someone link me the ending or the spoilers from it?

 

[Northeastmonk]

I wonder if NG will release another statement about the spoilers being leaked.

If Square-Enix’s Lead developer can say something for Kingdom Hearts III fans then NG can say something about this.

I think NG needs tighter IT support if this is what happens to their content. I could bet their network isn’t managed worth shit if this is what happens with their golden IP. Time to pay for tech support Naughty Dog. All the extra cash flow to pay for someone’s overpriced bachelor pad in LA. Buy some damn tech support!

 

[Mochilador]

Fake , Insane Metal

 

[Bwesh]

Spoiler: Possible Story Spoilers

One of the surgeons Joel killed had a daughter called Abby
The Firefly massacre destroyed her whole life, she's been looking for revenge ever since
Knew who Ellie was because of of her dad talking about their shot at a cure, figured out Joel from Firefly records
Cult attacks Ellie's settlement and she, Jesse, and Dinah are part of the group sent to track down and attack it - Jesse is killed during this
Ellie is now violently angry and goes to Seattle looking for the cults home to wipe it out, meets Joel there because he heard about Jesse and came back to help her
Abby finds Ellie because she's been in conflict with the cult too, so when Ellie hunts them to Seattle and is set to attack them with Joel her group find them and attack
She kills Joel herself, takes Ellie back to camp debating what to do with her since for all her hate she doesn't blame her for the massacre
Ellie butchers her group to escape and Abby is now motivated to hunt her down
Second half of the game is spent as Abby chasing Ellie
Ellie continues hunting the cult while you chase her down
Ending is Ellie and Abby fighting to the death
You kill Ellie as Abby, and she leaves while realizing she's not really "won" in any meaningful way since all she's done is get more of her loved ones killed for the sake of her killing Joel and then Ellie
Ending is "cycle of revenge" with the loose implication Ellie's friends will hunt Abby now in return

 

[MORJDK]

So I have to watch lady Shrek brutally beat Joel to death and then I have to play as her and kill Ellie by the end? Sure sounds like shit.

All it needs is; Bonnie Tyler i need a hero playing.

 

[DonJorginho]

Why couldn't have Joel died with some dignity?

Like sacrificed himself by fighting till the death to hold off the cultist's to buy Ellie time to run with Dina or something.

We go through this entire journey with Joel, just for him to be put down like a defenseless dog.

Notice how aside from Tommy (as far as I know he's alive), both male characters die like bitches early on in the game for stupid reasons that make no sense.

 

[Kite]

I understand the whole "subverting expectations" of TLJ now. It's funny as fuck watching from the outside all the fans losing their goddamn minds when you don't know or really care about the property. I just spend the last few hours skimming TLOU wiki, 4chan and this thread. It sucks for the fans but this is great!

 

[DonJorginho]

If I'm Sony I'm releasing this as soon as I can.

The longer they wait. The more fans will see the leaks and grow pissed off.

They need to avoid backlash and get this out digitally as soon as possible surely?

But I suppose from their business perspective they wanna give the game a proper build up.

So ironic that a company seemingly delays a game so fans can enjoy it together, only for the game to leak entirely to fans before a release window is announced

 

[Fake]

Why couldn't have Joel died with some dignity?

Like sacrificed himself by fighting till the death to hold off the cultist's to buy Ellie time to run with Dina or something.

We go through this entire journey with Joel, just for him to be put down like a defenseless dog.

Notice how aside from Tommy (as far as I know he's alive), both male characters die like bitches early on in the game for stupid reasons that make no sense.

I was expecting that. He telling the true while dying after helping her taking her revenge.

 

[PleaseWaitStation4]

Twitter sjw gets job at ND. 1st thing to do:

 

[SmokSmog]

 

[Turk1993]

I don't know like wtf, the gameplay looks sick, the environment looks sick, the graphics look incredible, just why WHY!? Why the fuck do they keep pushing this lgtb and sjw bullshit soo much. I wil just buy Ghost Of Tsushima as my last PS4 game then. FFS ND, i was soo hyped for this and you come with this bullshit.

 

[Dane]

This one just popped up, too.

WTF i love Dina now.

 

[AGRacing]

I’m out. Give me Horizon 2... and don’t screw it up.

 

[Mochilador]

This one just popped up, too.

Damn, spoilers just keep coming.